I've decided not to decide....

Yeah, so i was really convinced about getting the SR transplant; so much so that i was on my way to put the down payment on the sucker last night....
After reading everyone's posts i've decided to keep my KA and go turbo.

My concern is that i'm using a '90 KA24E (?) and it's getting old (220 Km). Should i drop in a KA24DE '92+ before the turbo goes in? I have heard that my engine is weaker than the DE.I guess it's the displacement lovin' redneck in me....

[crazycuban]

you'd definately want to upgrade to the KA24DE, which brings up another point - why spend more money on the KA turbo that'd u would have to (considering u'd need a new engine AND the turbo kit) when u can spend less and have more potential?  if ur all about the torque, and u'd rather spend more money on KA, then have fun.  but if this has anything to do with cost, the SR might be better.

[MingMing]

one thing about that, the ka has more potential, just requires more work to get to that potential

[whateverjames]

true that yo       anyways,    i think the same goes for the SOHC motor he has already. it has potential as well but needs work.

[crazycuban]

ka has more potential?  not really...bigger displacement, but that doesn't mean more potential.  after all, it's only .4 liters bigger than the sr - slap on a jun custom kit, bring the sr to 2.2, and the difference is negligible.  the sr20 is tuned to be turbo - that means a better port design, piston oil squirters, etc..  i've seen an 800 horse sr20, never seen a ka come close to that.  sure, the ka is more torquey, but honestly, in a rwd car that weighs 2700 lbs, that much torque will impact driveability.  driving the ka in the wet now sucks.  could u imagine how easy it will be to break free with 500 or 600 ft-lbs of torque?  along with that, the sr engine is lighter, so that means a lighter car and perfect weight distribution.  the ka can be cheaper (assuming u start with a ka24de), but it doesnt have more potential.

how many 512 horsepower s13/s14's with sr' do u see? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> well another point is that the sr swap costs about 5000 &lt;---- thats going lightly on the pucrchase price and all, &nbsp;the ka swap engine and turbo will cost just about the same

[Zenki Two40]

i'm waiting for the s15 sr's to get a lil' older n drop down...

dont expect too run too much HP outta the s-15 with that Vvt problem.........

right, what is the variable valve timing problem anywho?

[kitoro]

it's like you guys have something against BOTH engines.
it's apples and oranges.
they cost roughly the same.. but depending on the driver, one seems better.

Has anyone tried a KA24DET on a roadcourse?
if they have, tell me how it handles on the corners, hairpins and the like. I wanna know.. cuz at that much torque... i can't imagine how the car handles on the corners.

[chickenmanq]

But if you keep the KA24E, you'll have done something unique in adding a turbo. &nbsp;That alone is worth building the engine. &nbsp;Plus KA24E's rule!! &nbsp;Yeah, I'm biased 'cause it's the only engine the trucks came with til 98. &nbsp;Be different! &nbsp;Turbo the SOHC! &nbsp;Chicks will dig you! &nbsp;Money will drop from the sky! &nbsp;And you'll be able to toast &quot;fast&quot; cars even while using your older engine design. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;K, maybe not, but still. &nbsp;We need more people to build their E's.

[Zenki Two40]

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dont expect too run too much HP outta the s-15 with that Vvt problem.........
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i don't consider it a problem. i'm not gonna exaggerate n say i'm gonna have 400whp in my car cuz that likely won't happen for a LONG LONG time. 300 hp would be good n the s15 sr is factory tuned, newer (reliability), n it's 250hp stock already. it's perfect for what i want.

yah thats perfect u wouldnt even need too much work to get it there.... sweet deal!

[Zenki Two40]

yeah, just wish it wasn't so #### expensive right now.

[Impact]

Well its just nice knowing you have something JDM under your hood...

[whateverjames]

KA is jdm too. they have them over there

[crazycuban]

there are tons of 500/600hp sr20's...in japan of course...look at it this way, have u ever seen a ka24de turbo dropped in a skyline? &nbsp;prolly not...on the other hand, i have seen sr20's dropped in skylines for weight distribution. &nbsp;and yeah, those are all in japan, and we live in america, but its becoming easier and easier to get parts from overseas...seems like every other month another jdm company is getting distributors over here. &nbsp;the whole &quot;jdm trend&quot; thing goin on now should make it even easier.

[S13Grl]

-KA24E/DE is iron block and aluminum head vs. the SR20DET's all-aluminum construction.

-pistons, connecting rods, the camshaft, the cams, etc... are all upgradable for turbo applications on KA motors


It's a matter of personal opinion, crazycuban. Just because the SR20DET was factory turboed, doesn't mean that the KA is any worse than the SR. I will definitely turbo a KA when I get my 240.

[crazycuban]

yeah, no doubt its personal opnion, i'm just giving my opinion...i respect anything with power, no matter how u do it...for me, i'd rather have the sr...if u'd rather have the ka, more power to u.

[Archangel]

I feel bad for you Kustom, not because of your choice, because ever post you start lately ends up being an SR v KA debate. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

BTW What is the problem with the vvt?
I'd really like to know more about that.

[KoukiS14]

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-KA24E/DE is iron block and aluminum head vs. the SR20DET's all-aluminum construction.

-pistons, connecting rods, the camshaft, the cams, etc... are all upgradable for turbo applications on KA motors


It's a matter of personal opinion, crazycuban. Just because the SR20DET was factory turboed, doesn't mean that the KA is any worse than the SR. I will definitely turbo a KA when I get my 240.

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So you were sold on the first ride in Marty's car too Irena? =) &nbsp;I've never had a bad thing to say about KA-T since haha. . &nbsp;or about auto. .

I'm prolly gonna go SR, just cause my S14 KA has turned to 85k miles yesterday... I don't make a lot of money, so if it's done it'll have to be done in one hit (fresh engine and turbo at one time. . in other words, SR)

But u can get a low mileage S14 KA for around 500 bucks.

-Rob

[drift freaq]

well my KADE has 21,000 miles on it and I am going Turbo, I can get it by the smog boys a lot easier . Yes I live in Cali. Yet beyond that it just screams with potential Turbo wise and will cost me less to get equal horsepower . I don't care what anyone says a stage one turbo setup on my engine with 7lb's of boost will put out roughly anywhere from 200rwhp to 240. Thats more than a stock
SR20DET and the cost is the same.
There I said it. I don't hate SR's or CA's I think they rock . KA's rock too though.
Ya know back in the day of 510's and 240's there was no such thing as JDM. We used american know how to make our cars fly.
Don't sell the ability of Americans to make their cars go fast and handle with american made parts even if there cars are imports.
Its been done before and can be done again.
That said yes I will have some JDm stuff on my car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> so call me a hypocrite <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> . I am making a point <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[ceramicus]

crazycuban

you have to remember....and please dont anyone forget.....in japan you need to have a 2.0 liter or below because owning a 2.4 liter is to expensive in taxes and such... government doesnt want you ownin one then they make it difficult so you have to go with what works. why drop a sr in a &nbsp;skyline...itll be cheaper to own both on gas and on taxes. you have to understand the majority of tuners out there arent millionaires or else eveything would be top notch and runnin over 2.0 liters on the engine.

[whateverjames]

why do they tax them like that? wow displacement, big deal, why don't they tax the ammount of horsepower? so when someobody imports an american car, they're pretty much loaded, and then some? does the japanese government want people to own 2.0's because of emissions?

[crazycuban]

thats not why people drop sr's in skylines. &nbsp;i'm not talking about street cars - that would be dumb as shit. &nbsp;the rb26 is a great engine. &nbsp;i'm talking about race cars that i've seen the sr dropped in for weight distribution. &nbsp;i've never seen a street car with the sr.