6$ solution to lidar, and its our favorite ingredient...

[tastyratz]

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DUCT TAPE!
http://www.3m.com/brands/scotch/transducttape/images/nav_tape.jpg
That's right, you can get a roll of 3m clear duct tape from wal mart or kmart or any other mart

http://www.3m.com/brands/scotch/transducttape/index.html

Use it to carefully cover your license plates and or signal lamps, places they will hit to get a laser signal. It WILL limit light transfer if your dumb enough to try putting it on your headlights or anything. plus this is meant to kill reflectivity - so if you put it on your... REFLECTORS and someone hits your car at night don't go crying.

http://www.radardetector.net/viewtopic.php?t=23784&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=clear+duct+tape&start=0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXPaxQM7Cw4

could cut down your front plate from being a target at 2000 feet to 5 or 600 feet giving you plenty of warning. That's some actual average results Ive seen from people testing.

*Warning* Don't think this makes your headlights or any other chrome less of a target, it just buys you a second or 2 when the cop cant get a good signal from your plate. Driving a dark car makes it hard to get a signal, and popup lights when down wont reflect so if you do your front plate it will probably be extremely hard to get an s13 from the front. Other cars it just might buy you a second which could be enough to slow that much more down.

This stuff is *almost* transparent so it should look like a dirty plate unless closely inspected. I recommend just throwing a clear license plate cover over it and it might not really be noticeable (ESPECIALLY the edges).

Of course this is what I find after massive research the day AFTER I get whacked with lidar :mad: but this and the laser jammers I picked up make me prepared going forward:w00t:

[O3DigitalBath]

or you could just not haul ass down the road :confused:

[mifesto]

clear license plate cover is not legal in NJ unfortunately :(

[SoSideways]

hahahhhahahahaha

I love that sound of when the lidar couldn't get a reading. It sounds like a dog or annoying bitches whining about something hahahahaha

[tastyratz]

or you could just not haul ass down the road :confused:

what fun is that?

besides posted speed limit and speed of traffic are 2 different beasts. In nh tickets are a cash cow for the state, we have rt 3 which is a newly paved 5 lane highway... and its 55. go 55 on rt 3 and see how long you survive.

There's a difference between the speed limit and speeds which are deemable unreasonably safe.
70 on a highway is safe, 70 in a school zone is not :-)

clear license plate covers are illegal in nh and ma too, illegal by technicality almost anywhere... who cares
its an equipment violation (non moving) 30 bux at best and I don't think I have ever heard of someone getting harassed for an optically clear cover.
30 bux beats thousands in insurance

[Brian]

hey, don't drive like a piece of shit.

Maybe one day you will kill someone by speeding and that will change your stupid attitude

[jackjack]

not bad. even though i never speed....... too much damn traffic. bleh.

[drift925]

hey, don't drive like a piece of shit.

Maybe one day you will kill someone by speeding and that will change your stupid attitude

Lol typical zilvia attitude, he's probably not even speeding in a reckless manner but just a average 10-15 over, I have yet to see any car go 65 or under (with no traffic) on the freeway since 2002.

[Brian]

Well, if my "tpical attitude" is to try and keep people safe, then I guess I'm guilty.


sorry man.

[jrbump]

I do my 9ish over up and down I-5 and hope i'm left alone. Sometimes faster, thanks for the tip!

[JohnD1079]

Good thing PA dosent require front plates !!!

[HS13KLS]

i guess thats a good idea...although id just rather not speed..if you know you have a car that cops like (slammed 240s, with loud exhausts)
dont do dumb stuff, to give them a reason to pull you over..

lol

plus i thought this was tested on Mythbusters. and it totally didnt work

[handinpants]

what about redlight camera tape? what can we use to avoid the picture... i'm not about to be running red lights, its more for avoidance of getting my picture taken by accident. here in los angeles, the traffic division has yet to install a more efficient traffic light system, so in order to make a left on a busy intersection you have to wait for the light to turn yellow....

[tastyratz]

hey, don't drive like a piece of shit.

Maybe one day you will kill someone by speeding and that will change your stupid attitude

exactly, typical attitude. you never at any point drive 1mph over any speed limit sign, thats exactly why you cast a stone? perhaps you would like to post a tragic link about some 16 year olds street racing or a hot chicks picture from a drunk driving incident?

:fawkd: get off your horse.

whaa whaa

Again if you read my post at all.. speed limit and reasonable speed are 2 different things.

I speed when appropriate. I go faster when there's no traffic and slower when there's other people to consider. I do the typical 10 over in most places too. Speed limits are the general population safe speed and I can safely travel at a greater speed than the 18 wheelers or hummers. Speed limits are not safe limits.

This is a trick provided to help the casual speeder or high profile car avoid being harassed unjustly.

[ayuaddict]

good thing i have a KA.

speeding?

not even possible.

[Brian]

My point is this



If you want to speed, deal with the consequences.
Why do you need to "cheat" and put on some bullshit tape to clock your plate?

[usajdm]

You shouldnt speed even 1 mile an hour fasted then posted.
Since its proven that if you hit someone doing 55 and thats the posted limit, then they will survive, while just 1 mile an hour faster would be certain death.

Lighten-up.
Its a good tip.

[tastyratz]

so apparently traveling over the posted speed limit is aerodynamically impossible to achieve while not in a bent over position?

how bout the reason I need to "cheat" the system is I don't wanna pay for big obnoxious unreasonable tickets or deal with cops digging apart my car for an excuse to tow it. If you don't have a reason for someone to ticket your car and travel the posted speed limits at all times buy a prius.

Please everyone, can we take a moment of silence for all the poor police officers that were "cheated" with this trick and by any future hooligan shenanigans denying their state and insurance companies their hard earned money...


apparently this thread is going over as a nice hit I'm getting lots of happy rep.

and on the 8th day god said let there be reppeth for thou whom save the asseth of the righteous.

[drift925]

lol ok now your just being a jackass..... brian basically said sorry for being a dick, just accept it and move on!! no need to mock him

[Brian]

ummmm no

I'm NOT saying sorry for being a dick.


I stand by my point.


have fun with that hella sick positive rep.
you'll go far in life, or something.

[HyperTek]

interesting thanks for the tip.. not that I speed.. cuz i dont. But misjudgedments are annoying.

[exitspeed]

All this shit was busted on Mythbusters.

[g6civcx]

you never at any point drive 1mph over any speed limit sign

I have never intentionally exceeded the speed limit. That's my statement and I am sticking to it.

Also one more fact to consider: a driver can be ticketed for "speeding" regardless of speed. I know it makes no sense, but you can be given a speeding ticket for any speed if the officer feels that your speed is excessive for the conditions.

All that is needed to convict a speeding ticket is the officer's testimony that you were operating in an unsafe manner.

Speed radars just save the police from having to testify. It's much harder to cross-examine a piece of equipment than a person. You can challenge the calibration results of the radar, but the police won't give you access to the radar to test for yourself.


There is a public safety aspect and a money aspect. Sadly, the two seem unseparatable.

[genericforumname]

just so you know if you are speeding then the ticket isn't unjustified and you make all other 240 owners even more of a target. thanks. this attitude is why so many people die everyday on highways, because they are just "casual speeders".

p.s. I'm officially calling bullshit on this, if you're wondering why, get the discovery channel and watch mythbusters, they proved all these things wrong, including that dark colored cars avoid radar better. color does not affect the radars signal. oh and flat colors don't make a difference either.

edit, although someone did prove that some brand of film (I think its a spray) actually does work, but if you get caught with any of these (mostly fake methods) I hope you like serious legal trouble.

[arkive43]

ROFLMAO!!!! THAT SHIT DOSENT WORK DO YALL NOT WATCH MYTHBUSTERS!!!

neways i agree with brian why are yall even speeding?

1 its dangerous
2 it puts unnessary wear on ur motor
3 its burns gas like crazie!!! save ur money and drive the speed limit. its not that hard.

[Brian]

Don't get me wrong though.

I understand that some of the time, the average speed on the highway is a lot faster than the posted speed limit.
this makes it hard to stay down low at 65

but my point is, if you wanna run faster, then do it. but dont be a pussy and try to hide your plates

[tastyratz]

Brian:
It seems we have a difference of opinion then. You seem to believe the police are wholesome and pure only ticketing or harassing the car community on legitimate merit. We deserve to pay higher insurance and pay lots of tickets because its the right thing to do. While you may be on that road with the average speed of faster than 65 your in the slow lane steadily at or below the 65.

I personally think the opposite but you post like I tell everyone to go 100+. I have in no way encouraged reckless or unreasonable levels of speeding but don't be so naive as to think tickets are anything less than 90% purely for state revenue. Case and point that 5 lane highway in my area I spoke of... its 55mph- not 65. There's no nearby residential areas or really anything besides big long stretches of fat wide road. There's no reason for that.

arkive:
time is money- you get paid by the hour at work don't you? Speeding may cost you a small percentage more in gas money but get you to your destinations far quicker. If you could get an extra hour out of your week to do what you want for a dollar a day would you buy it?
Its all on your priorities. Pampering your car and driving well under psl will save you that 50 cents that trip in gas but take you 20 minutes longer. my 20 minutes is worth 50 cents in gas/wear tear to me.


regarding mythbusters:
http://mythbustersresults.com/episode18

I don't know how much I would trust mythbusters result for this exact thing even if it was for lidar because they are not going to show you ways to break the law on tv that show is too "wholesome"
HOWEVER
Mythbusters did no such test of this tape
The only relevant thing tested was the flat black paint -WHICH only makes a difference if you have nothing to reflect back. Were talking light people, if your cars flat black but you have a big shiny intercooler or chrome headlight bucket showing its only going to do so much. This is a weak link kind of thing.

the pictures and video I posted explicitly show that the tape reduces the reflectivity of your plate which is the police main target.

darker cars and cars with low/no metallic paint are less reflective.
the less reflective you are, the less signal the laser beam will reflect back. This means they cannot get a laser speed measurement from you until you are closer giving you reaction time.

In that respect this is no more of a countermeasure than a radar detector

[Brian]

Ummmm what?

what "car cummunity"? you mean fixed up cars. 240sx, honda, etc?

I 100% agree that we get profiled, but it is obviously for a reason.

If you have illegal mods on your car, you're risking it everyday.


If they pull you over SIMPLY because you drive a fixed up car, THAT SUCKS, but oh well. thats life.

[Dousan_PG]

lets go street race!


fags.

really not in a rush to speed. or drive reckless
get that shit out at the track
and i can afford the 3 mins later to arrive to my desitination.

[g6civcx]

i can afford the 3 mins later to arrive to my desitination.

The DOT report done years ago show that you save at most 5 minutes per hour while breaking hundreds of traffic laws and making unsafe maneouvres.

In order to save 1 hour, you would have to drive 12 hours straight while breaking thousands of laws and risking as many lives.

[Dousan_PG]

exactly



arrive alive!

[Matej]

Speaking of license plate stuff, where do people get those brackes that angle the rear plate? I know I could make my own, but if it's cheap then I'd rather buy one.
Whenever my rear bumper falls off it always gets stuck on the plate and scraped up, not kewl.

[Dousan_PG]

rear:

your liscense plate is held in by two bolts no the top rpobablY
you pull up on the bottom of the plate

now its angled



front:
you go to home depot and buy some metal and some screws, nuts and bolts.
and make your own.

[Matej]

Haha almost did that last night, but then I felt bad about about bending the plate. I guess I'll just make my own brackets. Front is no problem, I just keep it in the windshield.

[murda-c]

I learned that i save about 0 minutes per hour speeding.

but boy is it fun to gamble with everyone's safety.

[tastyratz]

lol
I retract my original posts and replace all comments with:
everyone go 300 mph and kill a few kids on the way! lets hear it for reckless endangerment grossly doubling the speed limit woohoo!
Please make sure this is only during rush hour or in high traffic times.
I represent the evils of society! smoke crack!

there I saved all the holyfolk in this thread from having to read all my posts on opposite day.

[JRas]

it amazes me how people in here are gonna say they don't speed...

we drive sports cars if you don't speed occasionally, sell your car and get a fucking Prius!

speeding and speeding recklessly are two completely different things

The DOT report done years ago show that you save at most 5 minutes per hour while breaking hundreds of traffic laws and making unsafe maneouvres.

In order to save 1 hour, you would have to drive 12 hours straight while breaking thousands of laws and risking as many lives.

I'm so sure when they did this report they didn't have intension's of making speeding to look pointless:rolleyes:

this thread is a joke!

[Dousan_PG]

i drive a G20 and a dodge dakota
not exactly speed demon cars.

the real car is for the track times.

get serious.

[tastyratz]

it amazes me how people in here are gonna say they don't speed...

we drive sports cars if you don't speed occasionally, sell your car and get a fucking Prius!

speeding and speeding recklessly are two completely different things



I'm so sure when they did this report they didn't have intension's of making speeding to look pointless:rolleyes:

this thread is a joke!

oh absolutely
statistics show people who breath get cancer more than people who dont

if your in stop and go traffic thats 1 thing but hard math is hard math. If you go 20% faster you arrive 20% earlier.
report a
If your trip is 5 minutes you only save 1 minute big deal. dot survey says rescue puppies.

report b
Lets say your one of those reckless statistics each of these dateline nbc preachers mentions and travel at wildman speeds of 66 on a 55mph highway to work. your trip would normally be 25 minutes but now its 20 each way. your work week shrunk from 44hr 10 min to 43 hr 20 min. You now have an extra 30 min to cruise zilvia, masturbate, or order dominos (maybe all 3?) If you make 20 bux an hour thats 10 bux. Whats your time worth to you? What if you decide to go 70 like everyone else! oh noes more math!

conclusion
Statistics can be used to make either side sound good.

speed doesn't kill, idiot drivers kill. America is the only country that eats that line of bullshit for breakfast, everywhere else in the world drives faster AND safer. you want to talk statistics talk autobahn.

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Dousan driving an old vw bus makes you capable of exceeding the speed limits - it doesnt stop counting if you drive non sports related cars for daily. Some of the crap you've built and seen in the past you should be all well aware I would imagine of police singling people out to harass them.


Before another stone is cast in the oh so glass house of zilvia.
Brian
dousan
murda-c
g6civcx
arkive43
genericforumname

Just once for the folks at home, want to say it in a straight post so its on record that you either A: never have never will, or B: may have exceeded the posted speed limit in the past but you repent your foul sins and are sure you will never exceed the speed limit again!

if you cant post that with a straight face it would be pretty hypocritical to chastise someone for the same.

Ironic how this thread with posts on reasonable speeds seems to meet with more flame than people talking about street drifting their cars. only on zilvia.
I pity the person who accidentally lets slip in a post they have a radar detector.

I guess this seems to have really gone off on a tangant from a quick easy post about lidar and countermeasures hasn't it? should we mix some politics in for good measure?

[CoasTek240]

I try not to speed bc i dont like paying for the tickets and i like my insurance being low. I drive like an old man 95% of the time. But i still speed ...sometimes, and its fun, But I am far from reckless. +1 TastyRatz

[fueled by hate]

Speed limits are good since 95% of the american people don't know how to drive. We don't need more laws reinforcing speed limits or price hikes on ticket prices. What we need are better driver training programs and harder tests to get your license. I think the biggest problem with drivers today is that they're so inconsiderate of others and only think of themselves. I'd say that most accidents are caused by people who are unfit to drive. If slower traffic and people on their cell phones stayed to the right and people plan ahead and don't cut over last minute then traffic wouldn't be as bad.

[Dousan_PG]

police can harrass all they want
if its legal then whatever
if u make ur car illegal then expect toget harrassed
i got pulled over a few times in my 240sx
but it was lowered and stock
fuck em
look at it all you want
write me a citation. its not the end of the world
a nuisance is all.

mod the car to crazy status
then i got a daily
officer, see it on the trailer? yeah. cant do shti about it.

its not it in the end

lets talk insurance rates
haha
because that shit gets nuts w/ various tickets
im 29
started driving when i was 17
and i only been stopped once, which is written off w/ traffic school
so...save myself 10 mins
vs
ticket price
insurance hike (for a few years)
and a headache

is it worth it?

no.

living in southern california you have to 'speed' to keep from geting run off the road haha

average traffic flow is about 70mph to 80mph
ill drive 80 if its going w/ the flow but i wont be passing people, center lane for me! just moving along.

but i wont be driving like some people 90+ and cutting lanes

sure speed limit is 65
whos driving that fast?
oh yeah. Truckers. Big rigs, etc

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

just fucken slo down speed racer!

[Matej]

Everybody speeds.

speed limit - nobody drives the speed limit
5-10mph over the limit - technically this is speeding, but it's become the norm for regular traffic flow
10-15 over the limit - all of us hit this range every now and then, some on purpose, some people just don't pay attention, this is where the highest percentage of speeding tickets is handed out
15-higher - this is the stupid reckless kind of speeding

[Brian]

original poster should just shut the fuck up already

[mademedoit]

Well, if my "tpical attitude" is to try and keep people safe, then I guess I'm guilty.


sorry man.
Man go be a Fireman and get the fuck off the internets:mrmeph:! If we had German rules like only being able to pass on the left and using the fast lane only when driving FAST we would all be a lot safer when driving on the freeway. In case your wondering we've got the five lane wide 55mph freeways in Vegas to:loco: .

[Brian]

I tried to figure it out, but.... what is your point?

ummmmm we ARE supposed to pass on the left only....

people here just dont respect driving.
they are dumb.
period.

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

Man go be a Fireman and get the fuck off the internets:mrmeph:! If we had German rules like only being able to pass on the left and using the fast lane only when driving FAST we would all be a lot safer when driving on the freeway. In case your wondering we've got the five lane wide 55mph freeways in Vegas to:loco: .

wow what an idiot you are. i hope i never drive to vegas when you are on the 15. douche:bigok:

[mademedoit]

I tried to figure it out, but.... what is your point?

ummmmm we ARE supposed to pass on the left only....

people here just dont respect driving.
they are dumb.
period.
Idiot boy I clearly stated "if we had German laws" on the Autobahn it is illegal to pass people on the right. This is part of reason they have less accidents.

[Brian]

uhhhhh that is EXACTLY what I just said.

[mademedoit]

wow what an idiot you are. i hope i never drive to vegas when you are on the 15. douche:bigok:
I take the 95 to the 15 every day on the drive to work, my sig clearly says where I live. :smash: Large semi trucks caring nothing but small rocks constantly drive 70mph and liter the freeway with rocks flying out the back. When you come to Vegas you can stay behind them and see what happens to the front of your car:mepoke: .

[Antihero983]

sure speed limit is 65
whos driving that fast?
oh yeah. Truckers. Big rigs, etc

not all truckers drive like that. i know my mom and her bf sure as hell don't.

but then again, shit's a bit crazier out west.

[Dousan_PG]

its a generalization.
not to be taken personal.

[tt99ol]

geez it seems no one likes their cars around here
if you really loved it you would cruise the slow lane to spend time with it
but i guess youd rather masturbate than spend an extra 5mins in your car
no patience, i swear, what do they teach us in school these days
lol
i sped once, i got pulled over, i lost my license
its not worth it, when you go with the flow you lose all self respect
I CAN resist peer pressure, I AM above the influence

[mavrick243]

If speeding doesn't get you anywhere faster then why do emergency vehicles speed? are they not risking lives by speeding? And Brian don't tell the original poster to shut up all he's doing is giving out a helpful tip to people, if you don't want a helpful tip then don't read the post it's just that easy.

[Dousan_PG]

If speeding doesn't get you anywhere faster then why do emergency vehicles speed? are they not risking lives by speeding? And Brian don't tell the original poster to shut up all he's doing is giving out a helpful tip to people, if you don't want a helpful tip then don't read the post it's just that easy.

because they cant afford to get stuck at stop lights
they really dont speed mmuch more on the freeway they arent doing 100+

in the city streets they are speeding only because they are doing at least double the limit ...minus lights
duh that save a lot of time.
i wish i could blow every red light

[mavrick243]

ok but they are still speeding aren't they. and i know some of the laws for the ambulances i just got done taking an emt class and i'm waiting for the paperwork so i can sign up for the national registry test.

[mavrick243]

and you seriously gave me neg rep for that post

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

I take the 95 to the 15 every day on the drive to work, my sig clearly says where I live. :smash: Large semi trucks caring nothing but small rocks constantly drive 70mph and liter the freeway with rocks flying out the back. When you come to Vegas you can stay behind them and see what happens to the front of your car:mepoke: .

you don't have a sig:madfawk: :bash: .:ghey:

[chibo]

ok but they are still speeding aren't they. and i know some of the laws for the ambulances i just got done taking an emt class and i'm waiting for the paperwork so i can sign up for the national registry test.......It's a matter of life and fucking death in this case. Worst comparison ever.

A lot of speeding done by people on this forum is fucking retarded, but it's the individual persons decision to make - they are the ones that live or die with the consequences of their action. Personally I don't drive a fast car anymore because I found myself too irresponsible to own a car with power and I'd rather not be involved in hurting someone else (fuck myself, what do I care as long as no one else is involved).

I suggest everyone take a look at the Hogan incident and realize that shit happens when you fuck around on the street... maybe you're in the majority and nothing happens but if you're one of the few that ends up on the wrong side... well, we know what happens.

Let it drop.

[Brian]

If speeding doesn't get you anywhere faster then why do emergency vehicles speed? are they not risking lives by speeding? And Brian don't tell the original poster to shut up all he's doing is giving out a helpful tip to people, if you don't want a helpful tip then don't read the post it's just that easy.

No, he is not giving a HELPFUL tip.


Don't try to block your license plate if you plan on breaking the law.
stop being a pussy.




And actually, if you do use this, I hope you get busted for it.

[g6civcx]

I learned that i save about 0 minutes per hour speeding.

but boy is it fun to gamble with everyone's safety.

You are the reason why I drive a Dodge Ram.

it amazes me how people in here are gonna say they don't speed...

I obey all traffic laws on public roads.

we drive sports cars if you don't speed occasionally, sell your car and get a fucking Prius!

I disagree. You can have a gun and never shoot it other than for target practice. By your logic, guns are useless if you don't use them to shoot people occassionally.

Just because you don't have to shoot anybody doesn't mean you shouldn't keep a gun around for home defense.

speeding and speeding recklessly are two completely different things

In the police's eyes, they are both of the same. The only way to make speeding safe is to train everybody and put up safety measures like they have at the track.

I'm so sure when they did this report they didn't have intension's of making speeding to look pointless:rolleyes:

If you want to openly question a federal agency's motive, you are on your own.

lol
I retract my original posts and replace all comments with:
everyone go 300 mph and kill a few kids on the way! lets hear it for reckless endangerment grossly doubling the speed limit woohoo!
Please make sure this is only during rush hour or in high traffic times.
I represent the evils of society! smoke crack!

there I saved all the holyfolk in this thread from having to read all my posts on opposite day.

I don't agree that the legal speed limit is the highest safe speed. I agree with you!

I disagree with you beating down strawpeople. Everything I said was fact. All I said was that speeding is illegal. Nowhere did I say that you were reckless for speeding. Every case has its own merits. Sometimes breaking a law is justified for some reasons.



you want to talk statistics talk autobahn.

Your argument is flawed for one very large reason: America has not invested in driver training and transportation infrastructure like Germany has. The autobahn did not come into existence overnight.

Instead, the German road structure was the result of very large scale development and testing. Also, German drivers are much more competent than average American drivers. Think competition license competent.

Also, their inspection process is different and their laws for governing the flow of traffic is different.

If you can duplicate all of that in the US, then I agree, we should remove the speed limits.

Before another stone is cast in the oh so glass house of zilvia.
Brian
dousan
murda-c
g6civcx
arkive43
genericforumname

Just once for the folks at home, want to say it in a straight post so its on record that you either A: never have never will, or B: may have exceeded the posted speed limit in the past but you repent your foul sins and are sure you will never exceed the speed limit again!

Again, I really dislike the fact that lumped me into this list and your tone. Like I said above, I agree with your position, but I am also bounded by the law. We all are. I don't have a choice.

As I've said above, I have never intentionally exceed the posted speed limit. There have been times when I was forced to due to factors beyond my control, but those times were not intentional.

For example, coming down a very steep 2 lane mountain road with no shoulder, I'm doing 65 (speed limit) in the right lane. A minivan is on my left and clueless. A semi is barreling down behind me with its high beam flashing and its horn blaring. My best course of action in this case is to speed up pass the van and let the truck pass me. I have no other alternative other than getting rear-ended.

This situation happens more often than you think, especially if you live in the mountainous areas.

Speed limits are good since 95% of the american people don't know how to drive. We don't need more laws reinforcing speed limits or price hikes on ticket prices. What we need are better driver training programs and harder tests to get your license. I think the biggest problem with drivers today is that they're so inconsiderate of others and only think of themselves. I'd say that most accidents are caused by people who are unfit to drive. If slower traffic and people on their cell phones stayed to the right and people plan ahead and don't cut over last minute then traffic wouldn't be as bad.

fueled by hate actually made a very good point :)

If speeding doesn't get you anywhere faster then why do emergency vehicles speed? are they not risking lives by speeding?

Emergency vehicles have flashing lights and sirens. Plus they have better trained drivers and better maintained vehicles.

The average driver has very few of those things.

No, he is not giving a HELPFUL tip.


Don't try to block your license plate if you plan on breaking the law.

I'm not sure I agree with your position fully. Hell, if I were breaking the law, I'd steal a car, remove all license plates, and wear a paper bag over my face. But I understand where you're coming from.

[Brian]

apples and oranges

[KA24DESOneThree]

I speed. I have no front plates on my cars. I don't care.

What I do care about, though, is where I speed. I reduce how much I speed depending on population density, sidewalks with people on them, blind corners, school zones, et cetera. School zones and residential areas are no-speeding zones for me. B-roads have differing levels of speed, and the freeway changes from flow of traffic to 120+.

If you worry about speeding, perhaps you need to worry more about where you're speeding. 90% of the people on this site do not practice the active scanning and threat recognition which is so vital to high-speed safety.

[ESmorz]

90% of the people on this site do not practice the active scanning and threat recognition which is so vital to high-speed safety.

Only if I'm not texting and making waffles.

[Matej]

Most of our speedometers don't even show the correct speed due to different wheel/tire sizes.

What's with all the do-gooder saints, I'm pretty sure everyone on here knows not to speed recklessly, but at the same time it's possible to speed responsibly on occasion. I'm not saying it's a good thing to do, and I'm definitely not talking about double the limit speeds because that's plain stupid, but it's not like going 15 over the limit every now and then on a long boring stretch of empty highway automatically results in running over baby carriages.

Obviously I'm going to be told how wrong I am.

[drift925]

Wow all this crap just because Brian doesnt know how to stfu and not post his opinion.

Going waaaaay back to the original topic, personally I wouldn't put that much trust on a piece of tape, but it still gets an E for Effort.

[Brian]

haha, yeah isn't it nice.

Do I have no right to voice my opinion?

Who the fuck are you?

[Beebo]

holy crap! everyone get over yourselves. if you drive the speed limit.. congradufuckinglations. If you do speed, do when theres nobody around to crash into.

Tasty was just showing how to reduce the chance of getting hit with lidar. he is not telling everyone to speed.

Lets all get our cars governed to 75. that way we have no choice but to obey the speed limit on highways. woohoo.
secondly i think we should find the guy who invented the terrible radar detector and tar and feather his ass. that will teach him.

[ESmorz]

haha, yeah isn't it nice.

Do I have no right to voice my opinion?

Who the fuck are you?

No, apparently the "who's it's" thought police says you aren't allowed to.

[drift925]

holy crap! everyone get over yourselves. if you drive the speed limit.. congradufuckinglations. If you do speed, do when theres nobody around to crash into.

Tasty was just showing how to reduce the chance of getting hit with lidar. he is not telling everyone to speed.

Lets all get our cars governed to 75. that way we have no choice but to obey the speed limit on highways. woohoo.
secondly i think we should find the guy who invented the terrible radar detector and tar and feather his ass. that will teach him.

Hahhaahhahahaha nice one!!! Time to do some google research!

[Brian]

The level of stupidity of some of you continues to amaze me...

[drift925]

The level of stupidity of some of you continues to amaze me...

LOL YOUR STILL TALKING??? Should I go ahead and call you a hypocrite towards what you just said? :ugh:

[ESmorz]

Should I go ahead and call you a hypocrite

Do you like hand jobs? Do you like giving hand jobs? That's what I thought...

[Matej]

http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2008/03/funny-pictures-happy-chair-enjoying-life.jpg

[JRas]

I disagree. You can have a gun and never shoot it other than for target practice. By your logic, guns are useless if you don't use them to shoot people occassionally.

Just because you don't have to shoot anybody doesn't mean you shouldn't keep a gun around for home defense.

your analogy is horrible... :loco:

I question if you really even know what a sports car was made for

it's called a "purpose", or in this case a "classification"

lets go through the basics:

Truck - a large vehicle used for transporting bulk goods, materials, or equipment.

SUV ( sport utility vehicle ) - a passenger vehicle which combines the towing capacity of a pickup truck with the passenger-carrying space of a minivan or station wagon together with on or off road ability.

Mini-Van ( multi-purpose vehicle ) - that is designed for personal use. Minivans are taller than a a type of automobile similar in shape to a vansedan, hatchback or a station wagon, and are designed for maximum interior room.

hopefully, you are beginning to understand...

Sports Car - An automobile equipped for racing, especially an aerodynamically shaped one-passenger or two-passenger vehicle having a low center of gravity and steering and suspension designed for precise control at high speeds.

*In the case, you still don't understand please see a physician at once.

[Matej]

I like to shoot guns out the window while speeding.

[Beebo]

i like to smoke weed while cruising a buck fiddy. i slow down for pedestrians though... so i can run them over. then i speed back up. and im talking on my cell phone.. EEEEK!!!

[murda-c]

You are the reason why I drive a Dodge Ram.




lol pussy...

[Mr. Jesse]

lol pussy...

haha.

I never exceed the speed limit by speeds faster than than I can run. My buddies dad is a CHP, and he clocked me in his cruiser at 19 mph

[HyperTek]

relax guys, i dont think anyone is gonna admit they speed on public forums, nor should it be condoned. Lets all be safe and obey traffic laws.

This thread is ok.. Who didnt find the Top Gear episode itneresting when they tried to beat the cameras in a super car? I dont think it encouraged anyone to blast past a camera at like 200mph .this thread is just as informative, he was just saying what works towards deflecting lidar readment.

[imperialdrift]

The level of stupidity of some of you continues to amaze me...

Yet your still on this thread, and most you do is complain on this forum because your always right, go buy a prius, a golden retriever and shake your fist as those speed racers drive in your neighborhood because they sound fast, Great. Or just give it up and let people do what they want and learn for them self once.

[Brian]

Yeah I continue to read it, and post somewhat (right now as an example).

What is your point?



Where is kevin or lisa or phil?
lock this stupid ass thread.

[Beebo]

go buy a prius,

cover it in clear duct tape, swap in an sr20.... then SPEEEEEED! :rawk:

[imotion s14]

If speeding doesn't get you anywhere faster then why do emergency vehicles speed? are they not risking lives by speeding? And Brian don't tell the original poster to shut up all he's doing is giving out a helpful tip to people, if you don't want a helpful tip then don't read the post it's just that easy.

probably the most asinine post I've read here. Emergency vehicles that responds to cases of life and death, EVERY SECONDS COUNTS. You don't keel over and die because you show up 3.6 minutes later to your destination.

Speeding for the most part purely psychological. I highly doubt anyone who speeds even bothers calculate and log their times everytime they drive to a destination.

[mavrick243]

Emergency vehicles have flashing lights and sirens. Plus they have better trained drivers and better maintained vehicles.

The average driver has very few of those things.


Actualy they recieve no special training only police do and engineers of fire trucks but that's because they are so big. ambulance drivers do not. and i wasn't making a point about reckless driving i was making a point about speeding and they all MUST stop at red lights and make sure the intersection is clear before they go through. and i have not placed tape over my plates nor will i do it.

[mavrick243]

and yes i know i didn't do the quote right.

[Beebo]

nevermind...

[tastyratz]

Yeah I continue to read it, and post somewhat (right now as an example).

What is your point?



Where is kevin or lisa or phil?
lock this stupid ass thread.

oh don't be so butthurt on this really. mr. Frowny face disagrees so suggests locking instead.
Zilvia is not for meeting Brian's moral standards, or anyone's really. Hand out fliers by a church or something instead.

This thread was created TO BE HELPFUL by spreading some useful and helpful information to the general audience most applicable - aka a forum full of people driving a sports oriented vehicle. Drive like an old lady in a prius and don't put anything on your plate, this threads really not for you.

Get off your high horse and soapbox we don't care if speeding makes you sad... and its really not the point. This thread was dragged through the moral political dirt when it was not intended or created to be any way an ethical discussion.

Stop making it about ethics and appreciate the fuckin science of a dirt cheap trick and proof of concept, or just leave it be instead of trying to ruin it for others.

[Brian]

Ok, guy.


have fun with your tape trick.


I hope to god you get busted for it somehow.
That would just be amazing.

[tastyratz]

Thank you for your warm greetings and blessings of good will, Mr. sour puss... it warms my heart.

***BIG HUGS***


Now, Anyone try seeing how it looks on their plates yet? I haven't had a chance to bust open my roll of tape yet, might do that tomorrow. From what I hear if you lay it on neatly its really not easy to spot without getting right up to the plate.

[RPSil13]

lets all post on here to raise our posts yay, looks like brian is in the lead with 4107, keep up the worthless post count

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

You shouldnt speed even 1 mile an hour fasted then posted.
Since its proven that if you hit someone doing 55 and thats the posted limit, then they will survive, while just 1 mile an hour faster would be certain death.

Lighten-up.
Its a good tip.

I'm having a really hard time beleiving that dude. exagerate much???:wtf: maybe if you post where you herd such a thing i'd be a little more beleivable and by the way, I don't know about any other state but here in Cali the posted speed limit and the legal limit are usualy never the same, they vary with traffic, and weather. for instance, if its pouring rain like crazy and the highway speed limit is 65, a cop can ticket you for going 65 when everyone else including the cop are going 50. I've gotten a few speeding tickets and there's 3 speeds on the ticket. posted, "safe" and my speed. they're always differnt.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

so apparently traveling over the posted speed limit is aerodynamically impossible to achieve while not in a bent over position?

how bout the reason I need to "cheat" the system is I don't wanna pay for big obnoxious unreasonable tickets or deal with cops digging apart my car for an excuse to tow it. If you don't have a reason for someone to ticket your car and travel the posted speed limits at all times buy a prius.

Please everyone, can we take a moment of silence for all the poor police officers that were "cheated" with this trick and by any future hooligan shenanigans denying their state and insurance companies their hard earned money...

apparently this thread is going over as a nice hit I'm getting lots of happy rep.

and on the 8th day god said let there be reppeth for thou whom save the asseth of the righteous.


ROFL!!! I agree with this guy 100%. when its the end of the months, cops literaly are out to get people for any little reason, they've got a quota or something, at least thats what everybody tells me, correct me if I am wrong anyone??

[Beebo]

Stop making it about ethics and appreciate the fuckin science of a dirt cheap trick and proof of concept, or just leave it be instead of trying to ruin it for others.
dude.. your opinion is WRONG... it says so under Brian's name

I hope to god you get busted for it somehow.
That would just be amazing.
say something positive.... damn

lets all post on here to raise our posts yay, looks like brian is in the lead with 4107, keep up the worthless post count
im a little over 4000 behind. ^^^ was this not a worthless post as well?

I'm having a really hard time beleiving that dude. exagerate much???:wtf: .

:bash:
:bash:
:bash:


http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/6807/funnycatpictures23no1.jpg

[Aeroscraper326]

This thread is a piece of shit

[g6civcx]

Reality check. I just picked up my mom and my aunt. 1 block from the office a Corolla turned in front of a Tundra. I would guess that the combined speeds was in excess of 60-70 mph. The Tundra spun around so many times I lost count and went on 2 wheels and then jumped sideway over the curb. I thought he was going to flip. The Corolla spun into the stop sign on the opposite side where he was turning into.

The entire road was shut down for miles on both sides. I think at least one person in the Tundra is in critical conditions. I hope they make it. The front passenger side corner of the Tundra was majorly crushed in.


The thing was. I stopped to check something online before we left. Had we been there 5 seconds sooner, the Corolla would have spun head on into me.


I don't care who says what. Do what you want. Speed or don't speed. Just don't get into accidents. Bottom line. Be safe.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

Where is kevin or lisa or phil?
lock this stupid ass thread.[/quote]


this is what happens when you've said somthing really stupid and everybody hates you homie, cheer up.

now on the good note, pple Brian is probably on his period so please forgive him, he's probably in a bad mood, most of us are at one point.

this thread should be locked with this last post because it makes the most sense:

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Originally Posted by murda-c http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=2028219#post2028219)
I learned that i save about 0 minutes per hour speeding.

but boy is it fun to gamble with everyone's safety.

You are the reason why I drive a Dodge Ram.

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Originally Posted by JRas http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=2028259#post2028259)
it amazes me how people in here are gonna say they don't speed...

I obey all traffic laws on public roads.

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Originally Posted by JRas http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=2028259#post2028259)
we drive sports cars (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=191663&page=3#) if you don't speed occasionally, sell your car and get a fucking Prius!

I disagree. You can have a gun and never shoot it other than for target practice. By your logic, guns are useless if you don't use them to shoot people occassionally.

Just because you don't have to shoot anybody doesn't mean you shouldn't keep a gun around for home defense.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JRas http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=2028259#post2028259)
speeding and speeding recklessly are two completely different things

In the police's eyes, they are both of the same. The only way to make speeding safe is to train everybody and put up safety measures like they have at the track.

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Originally Posted by JRas http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=2028259#post2028259)
I'm so sure when they did this report they didn't have intension's of making speeding to look pointless:rolleyes:

If you want to openly question a federal agency's motive, you are on your own.

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Originally Posted by tastyratz http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=2028255#post2028255)
lol
I retract my original posts and replace all comments with:
everyone go 300 mph and kill a few kids on the way! lets hear it for reckless endangerment grossly doubling the speed limit woohoo!
Please make sure this is only during rush hour or in high traffic times.
I represent the evils of society! smoke crack!

there I saved all the holyfolk in this thread from having to read all my posts on opposite day.

I don't agree that the legal speed limit is the highest safe speed. I agree with you!

I disagree with you beating down strawpeople. Everything I said was fact. All I said was that speeding is illegal. Nowhere did I say that you were reckless for speeding. Every case has its own merits. Sometimes breaking a law is justified for some reasons.



Quote:
Originally Posted by tastyratz http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=2028328#post2028328)
you want to talk statistics talk autobahn.

Your argument is flawed for one very large reason: America has not invested in driver training (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=191663&page=3#) and transportation infrastructure like Germany has. The autobahn did not come into existence overnight.

Instead, the German road structure was the result of very large scale development and testing. Also, German drivers are much more competent than average American drivers. Think competition license competent.

Also, their inspection process is different and their laws for governing the flow of traffic is different.

If you can duplicate all of that in the US, then I agree, we should remove the speed limits.

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Originally Posted by tastyratz http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=2028328#post2028328)
Before another stone is cast in the oh so glass house of zilvia.
Brian
dousan
murda-c
g6civcx
arkive43
genericforumname

Just once for the folks at home, want to say it in a straight post so its on record that you either A: never have never will, or B: may have exceeded the posted speed limit in the past but you repent your foul sins and are sure you will never exceed the speed limit again!

Again, I really dislike the fact that lumped me into this list and your tone. Like I said above, I agree with your position, but I am also bounded by the law. We all are. I don't have a choice.

As I've said above, I have never intentionally exceed the posted speed limit. There have been times when I was forced to due to factors beyond my control, but those times were not intentional.

For example, coming down a very steep 2 lane mountain road with no shoulder, I'm doing 65 (speed limit) in the right lane. A minivan is on my left and clueless. A semi is barreling down behind me with its high beam flashing and its horn blaring. My best course of action in this case is to speed up pass the van and let the truck pass me. I have no other alternative other than getting rear-ended.

This situation happens more often than you think, especially if you live in the mountainous areas.

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Originally Posted by fueled by hate http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=2028376#post2028376)
Speed limits are good since 95% of the american people don't know how to drive. We don't need more laws reinforcing speed limits or price hikes on ticket prices. What we need are better driver training programs and harder tests to get your license. I think the biggest problem with drivers today is that they're so inconsiderate of others and only think of themselves. I'd say that most accidents are caused by people who are unfit to drive. If slower traffic and people on their cell phones stayed to the right and people plan ahead and don't cut over last minute then traffic wouldn't be as bad.

fueled by hate actually made a very good point :)

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Originally Posted by mavrick243 http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=2028571#post2028571)
If speeding doesn't get you anywhere faster then why do emergency vehicles speed? are they not risking lives by speeding?

Emergency vehicles have flashing lights and sirens. Plus they have better trained drivers and better maintained vehicles.

The average driver has very few of those things.

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Originally Posted by Brian http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=2028976#post2028976)
No, he is not giving a HELPFUL tip.


Don't try to block your license plate if you plan on breaking the law.

I'm not sure I agree with your position fully. Hell, if I were breaking the law, I'd steal a car, remove all license plates, and wear a paper bag over my face. But I understand where you're coming from.
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[Brian]

Yes, I'm on my period.

Good point.

you have cleared up any childish behavior that has been going on here.

[lflkajfj12123]

I'm having a really hard time beleiving that dude. exagerate much???:wtf: maybe if you post where you herd such a thing i'd be a little more beleivable and by the way, I don't know about any other state but here in Cali the posted speed limit and the legal limit are usualy never the same, they vary with traffic, and weather. for instance, if its pouring rain like crazy and the highway speed limit is 65, a cop can ticket you for going 65 when everyone else including the cop are going 50. I've gotten a few speeding tickets and there's 3 speeds on the ticket. posted, "safe" and my speed. they're always differnt.


why the fuck are you still posting on this forum

i was going to choke you the first time BUT NOW I'M REALLY GOING TO CHOKE YOU

[g6civcx]

Actualy they recieve no special training only police do and engineers of fire trucks but that's because they are so big. ambulance drivers do not. and i wasn't making a point about reckless driving i was making a point about speeding and they all MUST stop at red lights and make sure the intersection is clear before they go through. and i have not placed tape over my plates nor will i do it.

I agree with this explanation. Sorry I didn't get your point before.

lol pussy...

Are you going to feed my family when I'm dead or out of work?


You shouldnt speed even 1 mile an hour fasted then posted.
Since its proven that if you hit someone doing 55 and thats the posted limit, then they will survive, while just 1 mile an hour faster would be certain death.


Maybe it won't be life or death, but 1 mph may be the difference between you being found innocent and being awarded a lot of money, and you being found guilty of negligence and being ordered to pay a lot of money. Remember that civil cases are decided upon the preponderance of the evidence, and one small nudge one way or the other can decide the entire case.

Take it from someone who has done a lot of insurance litigation. It's always better to say you did the speed limit than to say you did the speed limit+1.

here in Cali the posted speed limit and the legal limit are usualy never the same, they vary with traffic, and weather. for instance, if its pouring rain like crazy and the highway speed limit is 65, a cop can ticket you for going 65 when everyone else including the cop are going 50. I've gotten a few speeding tickets and there's 3 speeds on the ticket. posted, "safe" and my speed. they're always differnt.

This is exactly correct. An officer can ticket you for 1-infinity regardless of the posted speed limit for safety reason. If you do 0, you get a ticket for impeding the flow of traffic. Any speed is ticketable.

[T chop]

You guys make it out like the original poster is some crazy fucking Wangan Racer. He said he goes with the flow of traffic, harden the fuck up.

ZOMG, I WOULD NEVER GO 1 MPH over the SPEED LIMIT. Seriously that's what half of you sound like. 99% of you full of shit.

[Antihero983]

i disagree on the well maintained emergency vehicle part posted earlier.

i used to work on police cruisers, and they rarely did any work to them, even at high mileage.

and referring to the title of the thread...

i thought zipties were our favorite?

[clark]

someone please lock this thread :lockd:

the speedlimit is there for a reason.

1. as it was mentioned before, if you speed, you get to your destination...what....like....5 minutes faster....obviously dependant on how long your drive is.

2. when driving in speeds in excess of 55 or 65, there are different aerodynamic situations that need to be taken into consideration. speed and gas efficiency are variables when increasing speed. just chill out at 55mph or a moderate 5mph over the limit on highways, no cop, unless they are on their period, will pull you over for going 5mph over. i'm absolutely content with driving right at 55 mph letting kia's, hyundais, and fuckin soccer mom mobiles pass me left and right.

i have nothing to prove. yeah, sure, i'll rip it down a side street sometimes, but i'm sure it's safe and i won't kill someone, and i know i'm in control. never been in an accident, not even near.

i got all that retarded speeding bullshit out of my system when i was younger.

drive the speedlimit unless you want fucking points on your license and want to risk the suspension of your license.

would you like to have your license revoked and ride a fucking bicycle for 6 months?

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

why the fuck are you still posting on this forum

i was going to choke you the first time BUT NOW I'M REALLY GOING TO CHOKE YOU

dude.......you have a different opinion than I do, get over it. I'm over it, so go get laid, I accept your appology for being un-nececeraly rude and then jus chill the f*ck out:duh:

[tastyratz]

Are you going to feed my family when I'm dead or out of work?


I think its pretty obvious by the commercials that CLEARLY AFLAC will be doing that!
oo skyline oo
I think he was talking to Brian if I interpreted correctly?


i thought zipties were our favorite?


Joe duct tape could EASILY kick Zip tie ass in a cage match man what were you thinking?



for the rest
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/onebadgixxer/fourcopy.jpg
Half Diffusing Tape (Bottom), Full Diffusing Tape, Veiled Plate, State Plate
proof is in the pudding this picture best shows it

Laser Veil is this stuff that's a hundred bux a can and does the same thing, just not as well as duct tape. The trick with that though is that veil can be used on other surfaces like headlights and foglights, etc. Laser veil is a special type of liquid tint so if you put veil on your plate, or put the duct tape, the veil will be easier to spot and might get you a ticket vs the duct tape might just look like its dirty from far away.

[KA24DESOneThree]

I don't understand the hatred against speeding in this thread.

Yes, it's illegal.

Is it immoral? Yes, it can be, when the safety of others is compromised. When/if you speed, it should be done with low/no music, no cell phone conversations or texting, and in a car that can handle it. Every car I speed in has been well-maintained, has upgraded pads, and has either very good stock or modified suspension. To speed in anything different is just plain ignorant and dangerous.

You bring up the police as being high and mighty when it comes to automobile safety, but the number one lawsuit in terms of cases won against the SDPD is for traffic accidents attributable to officer negligence. All their minor calls come in over the in-car computer, leading to high levels of distraction. If you add a cell phone to that, it gets really dangerous. The official policy of the SDPD is to obey ALL traffic laws unless absolutely necessary, but you and I both know that they don't, and then they rear-end someone or sideswipe someone. Their professional driving instruction only covers emergency maneuvers, not everyday accident avoidance techniques (mostly because they can't fit all of what they're supposed to do into the time frame they need to do it), so some of us are probably more qualified and have had much, much more time driving at 10/10.

You'll argue, and it's ok. Being able to argue is what makes this country great. Everyone bitching at Brian needs to realize that he's entitled to argue his opinion all he wants, and just because it's the opposite of yours doesn't mean it's completely wrong.

[Brian]

The funny thing is..... My actual point is NOT about speeding at all.

[tastyratz]

Ka23desonethree - you are correct, the modern sports car and hummer are totally different beasts with different capabilities, and usually the funny and ironic thing is - the people going 5-10 over are the ones paying 10x more attention than the standard drone at 55. if anything the casual speeder is usually safer (remember usually is used loosely)

Did someone hear something else? I could have SWORN I heard something. oh well, must be the wind.

[Beebo]

The funny thing is..... My actual point is NOT about speeding at all.
hey, don't drive like a piece of shit.

Maybe one day you will kill someone by speeding and that will change your stupid attitude

then what exactly is your point dude. because most of your posts in thread are you just telling everyone to STFU and that they are stupid. :jerkit:

[DDSR240]

Brians point is That people need to quit bitching..if you speed and get caught dont get mad,you were breaking the law no matter how how fast you are going. the cops get payed to uphold the law no matter how much of a dick they can be at some times THEY GET PAID TO PULL YOU OVER SO.........don't give them a reason

[rps13sr20det]

this thread reminds me of two things:
1. Ralph Nader: Unsafe at any speed
2. Moral Hazard.

Speed limits are there for a reason. Drive safe or take it to the track.

[DDSR240]

My point is this



If you want to speed, deal with the consequences.
Why do you need to "cheat" and put on some bullshit tape to clock your plate?
see what I mean

[Beebo]

Brians point is That people need to quit bitching

Oh really!?! lets recap..

hey, don't drive like a piece of shit.

Maybe one day you will kill someone by speeding and that will change your stupid attitude

Why do you need to "cheat" and put on some bullshit tape to clock your plate?


have fun with that hella sick positive rep.
you'll go far in life, or something.

but dont be a pussy and try to hide your plates

original poster should just shut the fuck up already


people here just dont respect driving.
they are dumb.
period.

No, he is not giving a HELPFUL tip.

Don't try to block your license plate if you plan on breaking the law.
stop being a pussy.

And actually, if you do use this, I hope you get busted for it.


Do I have no right to voice my opinion?

Who the fuck are you?

The level of stupidity of some of you continues to amaze me...


lock this stupid ass thread.

Ok, guy.

have fun with your tape trick.

I hope to god you get busted for it somehow.
That would just be amazing.

it seems like brians bitching the most

Yes, I'm on my period.

im glad we can finally agree on something.





You guys don't like to speed. great. dont put tape on your plates. Tasty was just giving an inexpensive way to reduce the chances of getting hit with lidar.

say you have an open stretch of highway. no cars in sight. no entrance ramps for on coming cars to get in the way. smooth pavement. your telling me you wouldnt even bump it a bit over the speed limit? :-/

i know all of the members on here arent able to hit the track, so whats the point of having a fast car? to get to the speed limit faster. suuuure

[ThatGuy]

Zilvia.net does not condone illegal activities.

Speeding is going to happen, certainly.

However, modifying your vehicle in an attempt to "fool" detection devices is highly illegal. Talking about it on an open forum is foolish.

Bottom line: This is over now.

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