spl multi link arms

[jackal264]

alright so it seems like zilvians really push the spl arms, but what i want to know is are they really that good? has anyone ever seen one crack at the welds or have to replace a rod end? or should i just forget about all th rest and order myself the v2 rear toe and traction arms.


b/c i'm up in canada i get the shaft w/ taxes and duties making some of the alternatives a lot more apealing. i can get my hands on some battle version arms and they would probably cost a good 100 dollars less in the end.

and then theres always the megan route which would cost more then 300 dollars less wich would allow me to replace all 4 arms and still would cost less then the other 2 (if they ever failed that is)

i know there are a few threads similar but i think this topic deserves a relook simply b/c of the additional costs involved with getting the spl arms into canada.


spl arms are 440 then 55 shipping w/ ups then 12% tax and the retarded ups brokerage fees which will probably be around 40 bucks. making those 2 arms almost 600

the battle versions are 515 taxes in

and the megans are 240 taxes in

[a_ahmed]

wth? You are comparing SPl to megan parts and battle version? Especially megan lol. Megan stuff turns into metal you would dig up next to the titanic within a year's use... photo proven... as if it was burried for 300 years or something.

Only alternative is bings' stuff but I trust spl... so im getting all their stuff.. but ur right on shipping and taxation customs crap... :(

I got their TC rods, traction arms, tie rods, and i want to get the ruca and toe arms (soon releasing new RUCAs maybe this week i saw prototype already)

I haven't installed anything yet... waiting on a few bits before I install this summer (car was winter parked since i got these parts in September last year).

To be honest and I wish kuah would respond to me :( The traction arms got some tiny rust dot which i think is growing on the edge of the arm and the bolt thats on the arm............ i still haven't installed the arms.. so this kind of disappointed me yesterday... if it grows on that part im worried if it cracks there or something... this is the first time i think anyone had this sort of issue... never heard or saw anyone else's spl arms ever rusting at all :( I wish kuah would replace the arm lol...

So Bings' stuff is ultra cheap price wise but not bad... he also uses qa1 rod ends... not sure on the rest though... and sasha ran it on his car so it works obviously but.. I dunno... SPL's stuff was far more widely used so... more recognition/proven/testd status/etc...

I dont know :-/ but dont compare SPL's stuff to megan/etc... LMAO... its like holding shit and gold in your hands, make your pick... I feel like I can break the megan stuff with my bare hands...

[Koopa Troopa]

SPL doesn't make rear upper arms however the sell Cusco arms.

I've got SPL subframe an diff solid bushings, front arms, lower rear, toe arms and cusco upper arms.. I'll let you know how the do as soon as I can get my car running.

I'm extremely happy with SPL's customer service and had I not bought everything I possibly could from them I'd definitly be doing more business with them...

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spl arms are 440 then 55 shipping w/ ups then 12% tax and the retarded ups brokerage fees which will probably be around 40 bucks. making those 2 arms almost 600


If the shipping quote is $55, then that is using the UPS expedited service, so brokerage is free:

http://www.ups.com/content/ca/en/shipping/cost/zones/customs_clearance.html

[[email protected]]

To be honest and I wish kuah would respond to me :(

You sent the email early this morning, we are not even open for business yet! You need to give us at least a few hours to respond :)

[240trainee]

I would consider BV an alternative to SPL, either one is of great quality, I have gotten a few SPL products, superb, and will in all likely hood be ordering again from them in the near future.

[kandyflip445]

SPL doesn't make rear upper arms however the sell Cusco arms.

I've got SPL subframe an diff solid bushings, front arms, lower rear, toe arms and cusco upper arms.. I'll let you know how the do as soon as I can get my car running.

I'm extremely happy with SPL's customer service and had I not bought everything I possibly could from them I'd definitly be doing more business with them...

They make RUCA's for the s13 though.

I have RUCAs and tension rods on my DD. I've had the tension rods on for YEARS with no problems. And they're the old version. lol

[water]

SPL is awesome not only b/c of their grade A quality parts but b/c of their customer serice.

My most recent experience was after I messed up an install using their z32 rear conversion lines. There was a twist in the line that was causing it to rub the tire - i never noticed of course. Well in short time the tire ate through the line. Damn. I called SPL, told them it was entirely my fault, and asked to purchase a new set of lines, if at all possible one line, and have it shipped next day. Out of nowhere i was offered a free replacement line! Of course I still had to pay shipping but really, SPL did NOT have to do that for me. FWIW, i don't know a single person there and have no special connections of any kind. They're just that awesome. :bowdown:

So keep in mind that although we all rave about the bang for the buck their parts offer, its their customer service that really sets them apart from the crowd.

Good luck either way!

[water]

They make RUCA's for the s13 though.

I have RUCAs and tension rods on my DD. I've had the tension rods on for YEARS with no problems. And they're the old version. lol

Actually they are releasing s14 RUCA's very soon. I will be getting a pair with the first shipment. I hope its soon!!! :x:

[SoSideways]

I've had the tension rods on for YEARS with no problems. And they're the old version. lol

Yeap.

I have their version 1 T/C rods, and because of financial reasons, have not been able to step up to their new version, and I've had these since 2003.

I live in FL, almost right next to the ocean, and they still work. Not seized or anything.

Definitely top quality stuff :)

[s13silvia123]

SPL is the shiiiiit i tell you. my entire suspension is SPL except for the coilovers. very very sturdy and the highest quality. its worth every penny.

[Mr. Jesse]

For the love of God! Do not buy Megan shit, unless you want to end up in a ditch

[racepar1]

SPL's newer shit with the endura tech rod ends is fine. Their arms are definitely a solid choice. Beware of ANY arm from ANY company that comes with a two piece rod end. Two piece ends fail, 3-piece ends is what you want. SPL's customer service is absolutely top notch though. Other companies to consider would be peak performance and battle version. The japanese arms are generally WAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY overpriced.

[Koopa Troopa]

The japanese arms are generally WAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY overpriced.

Actually had I bought from NAMS all the same stuff I bought from SPL I would have saved ~$150

[kandyflip445]

SPL's newer shit with the endura tech rod ends is fine. Their arms are definitely a solid choice. Beware of ANY arm from ANY company that comes with a two piece rod end. Two piece ends fail, 3-piece ends is what you want. SPL's customer service is absolutely top notch though. Other companies to consider would be peak performance and battle version. The japanese arms are generally WAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY overpriced.

What's the difference between the 2-piece and 3-piece rod ends?

[racepar1]

What's the difference between the 2-piece and 3-piece rod ends?

On a 2-piece end the race and housing are the same piece, then you have usually a teflon liner, and of course the ball. On a 3-piece end the housing and race are separate pieces, with a liner (usually teflon), and of course the ball. 3 piece ends are generally tighter and more durable than 2-piece ones.

[Dousan_PG]

spl is the jam!
i love it
been using them on my car over 5 years for my s13 and s14 and back to s13
waiting for the new s13 ruca

for now, im using a BV ruca w/ the rest being SPL parts!


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/new%20s13/newpixxx036.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/new%20s13/newpixxx008.jpg

[SoSideways]

I need to get their toe arms to replace my Peak Performance arms. I need that little bend for extra clearance, as my Peak arms have hit the little cups that hold the subframe bushings in place a few times now, and I haven't had time to bring the car down to my buddy's shop to get those cups notched (I don't have a grinder).

[Harbe]

they just rust but what doesnt.

[djtrickz]

i considered SPL but i went with JIC instead. but what JIC lacks is customer service and that's where SPL WINS!!! i should have learned that when i bought my coilovers :*(***

[jackal264]

alright alright. i'll suck it up and buy the spl parts.

[wangan_cruiser]

its not by sucking it up. i know everyone here wants their hard earn money will be worth whenever you buy aftermarket part. and thats how the spl comes in. i dealth with spl couple of times and i like their customer service. their quality is A+++

[4bangers]

is peak performance a 3 pieces or 2 pieces end? they have aurora end which is supposely good right?

I haven't see anyone comment on peak performance in relative w/ spl yet b/c I could get
ruca
traction link
tension rod
toe link

peak performance - 855
spl - 886

I'm torn b/t the two. I'm scare b/c spl seems to have rust problem while I never heard anything bad about peak performance yet. What do you think?

[Dousan_PG]

ive NEVER had a rust problem w/ SPL

peak is fine
but again

CUSTOMER SERVICE is the seller. its worth it.
no other comany has "upgrade" options on your old stuff.
and replacement parts can be acquired thru SPL if needs be

its win win

[yokotas13]

but its SOOOO takai

i can get ikeya formula for a hair more

but im cheap
i use dmax arms

[flytwa78]

Yeah, I agree SPL is great. I live on Guam and they helped me out as well when I ordered brake lines from them. Very helpful since 50% of companies in the mainland (US) wouldn't send to Guam and even more are less willing to help you if you are not within the 50.

[ronmcdon]

i have all spl control arms too (minus the cusco rucas i also got from them). great suspension products and even better customer service! :)

[KA24DESOneThree]

is peak performance a 3 pieces or 2 pieces end? they have aurora end which is supposely good right?

I haven't see anyone comment on peak performance in relative w/ spl yet b/c I could get
ruca
traction link
tension rod
toe link

peak performance - 855
spl - 886

I'm torn b/t the two. I'm scare b/c spl seems to have rust problem while I never heard anything bad about peak performance yet. What do you think?

Get the Peak arms if you can get them cheaper and price is the main buying point.

You most likely won't need to use their customer service, and the rod ends are the best in the business and easily user-replaced and sourced when you wear them out.

I have both brands and haven't had issues with either. The current crop of SPL arms is very good, and Peak arms are very good. SPL's customer service, though, is second to none.

[FaLKoN240]

I'm STILL waiting to get my peak performance tie rod ends back from Peak...

Its been almost 4 months.

[-=RS13=-]

I am in Canada too and all my stuff is SPL. I got their tire rods and when I installed them i am pretty sure i cross threaded something and the shank snapped. I e-mailed SPL and told them about it, saying it was my fault and i needed some new ones.

They sent me a new shank and hardware for free and even paid for shipping. Customer Service at it's best. By far the best company i have EVER dealt with.

Bing's is ok. Had a few issues with his traction arms, swapped out for SPL. He does use good rod ends but the tubing and welding is pretty weak.

Go SPL, you won't regret it. Mine has never ever rusted, and except for bing's stuff. Rusted thru the powder coating

[bigOdom1]

kuah helps out even though he doesn't have to. i got some stuff from him and he went out of his way to help me find a solution to my problem.

[4bangers]

is spl arms are 2 or 3 pieces rod end?

[floodo1]

What no one has mentioned so far is that most of SPL products are significantly beefier than the competition, especially TC Rods. This is the main selling point to me....customer service is hugely important, but if you have shoddy products no amount of service is going to make them good.....SPL is the best of both worlds, absolutely top notch products and support :)

Another factor that has only been hinted at is that SPL responds to customer feedback. They've updated their tie-rod ends multiple times and also their suggestion for tie-rods themselves, all the while offering cheap upgrades to early adopters. And now they've consolidate their RUCA so that it works for both s13 and s14! Some products also have nice features, like the brake cooling deflectors that are available for their RC Rods.

Lots of people use their products and that means there has been a LOT of testing and development.

Maybe i'm a bit biased since I rep them in my sig though :) I'm pretty SPL actually deserves it though.

[Chernobyl]

I used to wonder why everyone said go with SPL. Then I bought some stuff from Kuah.

Go with SPL.

BTW, I need to order some toe arms to replace my megans because one of the pillowballs has taken a shit and my rear wheel wobbles. It's pretty scary and I wish I had just spent the extra $100 and bought SPL arms.

With megans, "off road use only" means that it's not rated for any serious driving. And it shows.

[[email protected]]

Thanks for the kind words guys!

FYI I am working on a new adjuster design for the v2 rear arms, which will be available as an upgrade option to existing owners shortly (1-2 months).

[SoSideways]

I am definitely looking forward to purchasing some SPL rear toe rods here soon, since my Peak Performance ones don't have the bend there that's needed for clearance.

[FaLKoN240]

Thanks for the kind words guys!

FYI I am working on a new adjuster design for the v2 rear arms, which will be available as an upgrade option to existing owners shortly (1-2 months).

Do a group buy... ;P

[INeedNewTires]

SPL is the shit, hands down.... I've ordered this and that from them, only thing i hate is i live in texas so i have to pay tax! ARG!.... but i get my parts in like 1-2 days so that makes up for it i guess. Anyway you get what you pay for, so go SPL and get the best, cause you deserve it right?

[4bangers]

Kuah, so you're coming out w/ a new adjuster design for the V2? isn't it the V2 RUCA just came out?

So should I wait until you come you w/ the new adjuster for the V2 RUCA b/c I'm thinking of getting the V2 RUCA soon.

[floodo1]

i'm pretty sure that ALL v2 rear arms will be upgradeable to the new adjuster available in a few months.
I'm also pretty sure that if you need RUCA's you should buy them now and upgrade later (that way your tires get the camber they need NOW).

[[email protected]]

Kuah, so you're coming out w/ a new adjuster design for the V2? isn't it the V2 RUCA just came out?

So should I wait until you come you w/ the new adjuster for the V2 RUCA b/c I'm thinking of getting the V2 RUCA soon.

v2 RUCA is coming out with our regular adjuster. The new adjuster is a different thing...

The new adjuster will feature a clamping design that eliminates the jam nut on the rod end, which makes is quicker to lock down a setting and keep the spherical bearing centered. This will be useful for race cars that see frequent alignment changes, and require very precise alignments (down to 1/16"). Existing owners of our v2 rear suspension arms (toe, traction, ruca) can of course upgrade to the new adjuster for a nominal cost ($10-$20 per pair). On a street car that does not get aligned so often, the regular adjuster works just fine and I would not bother upgrading or waiting.

To avoid confusion, I may have to start calling the arms equipped with the new adjuster "v3" :)

[chattslides14]

Go SPL you can not go wrong ive had them for over a year now and can not find one complaint. You can take a rag whip off the links and they look like the day you bought them no rust no nothing great company with great customer service
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[KA24DESOneThree]

If you're trying to buy quality coilovers and KTS is in your price range, your price range doesn't cover quality.

They're fine if you want something approximating a functioning coilover, but the damping kinda sucks for real performance duty. If you're just going to slide around parking lots, they'll do it.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Ok well better quality than K-sport or Megan. DECENT. Thanks.

Depends on what you mean by decent. They're still under-damped and bouncy.

How do I know? They're what's on my car currently, to be replaced with GC/Koni setup.

[racepar1]

Haha nevermind I don't have a thesaurus with me I can't think of any other words. I'll figure it out, thanks for the help though!

You should just run the k-sports. The KTS coils aren't really much of a step up from the k-sports, if a step up at all, and if it is a step up the KTS's would simply be the lesser of the two evils. The fact that you can't describe what you want from a set of coils tells me that you wouldn't notice the difference anyways.

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

spl is the jam!


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/new%20s13/newpixxx008.jpg


stop showing that 3up peice to all losers who didn't get one from japan....:mepoke:

[floodo1]

stop showing that 3up peice to all losers who didn't get one from japan....:mepoke:

what is a 3up piece? the teal knuckle?

[upSLIDEdown]

what is a 3up piece? the teal knuckle?

Yes.

msglngth

[IIIXziuR]

ChatslidesS14, are you like dead lifting the Rear SFrame in that picture?
hahaha.