Online sponsorship proposal

[TougeLabs]

http://www.joe.durgle.com/

Online proposal anyone ?

its not finished but you get the idea.:2f2f:

[s13silvia_R]

very nice proposal, looks very professional.

[TougeLabs]

I think i may offer to actually do this for anyone that is interested. Or maybe building a not gay myspace that focuses on ppl that dont fu*k around...what do you guys think ?

[McRussellPants]

- Bonneville noone cares anymore
- Sponsors don't care how you want more people interested, they want a market.
-35R SR20 sounds like not gonna break many records.
- No Mention of Current Sponsors. Is Touge Labs one? Why the fuck should I care. No one wants to be the first to sponsor someone. WTF does the touge have to do with bonneville.
- Re Write everything. super 5th grader tune works for zilvia posts, not trying to get people to give you money.
- Page isn't big enough.
Bio page (kinda got that one)
Gallery
Calender
Links (Support current sponsors)
-Hurr Hurr Techno Jap font in the dumpster
-Braking vs Breaking, I'd pitch that out just for that.
-White Car, No pictures of car, bland.


Thats not a proposal thats a bio. I'd throw that in the dumpster if It were sent to me.

[Maxstyle]

Does anyone even sponsor anymore. The industry is hurting so bad right now that last thing they want is give stuff away. At my work, we need a letter proving that you are going to have an artical written on your car before we give stuff. At the end of the day, it's about who your friends with too.

[TougeLabs]

- Bonneville noone cares anymore
- Sponsors don't care how you want more people interested, they want a market.
-35R SR20 sounds like not gonna break many records.
- No Mention of Current Sponsors. Is Touge Labs one? Why the fuck should I care. No one wants to be the first to sponsor someone.
- Re Write everything. super 5th grader tune works for zilvia posts, not trying to get people to give you money.
- Page isn't big enough.
Bio page (kinda got that one)
Gallery
Calender
Links (Support current sponsors)
-Hurr Hurr Techno Jap font in the dumpster

Thats not a proposal thats a bio. I'd throw that in the dumpster if It were sent to me.

You need to read b4 you post...not finished sorry i dont have all the time in the world and my car is sponsored :):fawkd:
But like i said i dont want to be mean so im saying this with a smile on my face...also you are right no one cares about bonneville and thats why im working on it...The turbo im running right now is not the turbo i will be running. also the sponsors will be listed soon ill get right on it.caugh caugh
:mrmeph::naughty:

[TougeLabs]

For those that care check out the proposal in like a hour...Ill have my sponsors up soon just need some time this isnt something that happens fast...The industry is hurting pretty bad your right but as of today rc engineering picked me up and you guys can check out the list of sponsors after your done making fun of me :)

[KiDyNomiTe]

Looks too fancy to please an old man with money... Only thing about things like this is I think most companys prefer paper proposals, gives them something to touch and hold, plus it is easy to pass around the office for others to view.

I guess it just depends on your target company. In the end it comes down to what you can offer...

[McRussellPants]

call me an asshole all you want.

Sponsorship is a business and if someone showed that shit to me with "please give me money" attached to it. I'd Laugh, and then link it to all my sponsor friends with "lol imho" attached to it.

You're basically cold calling people, they don't know you, they don't think "oh that joe dungle, hes a cool bro"

ps, edited for more shit I found.

[Maxstyle]

^ key words being what "YOU" can offer them.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I got a better idea...anything you have that your not using, you should give me so YOU can sponsor ME!!!

[TougeLabs]

Looks too fancy to please an old man with money... Only thing about things like this is I think most companys prefer paper proposals, gives them something to touch and hold, plus it is easy to pass around the office for others to view.

I guess it just depends on your target company. In the end it comes down to what you can offer...

Your a 100% right that is why you can print the whole thing out as a PDF
Thank you and really good point...

[TougeLabs]

I got a better idea...anything you have that your not using, you should give me so YOU can sponsor ME!!!

O stop you get way cooler wheels then i do lol

[TougeLabs]

i keep reading new stupid shit out of your mouth sorry Tougelabs is a small company i started up to help ppl out with sponsorships :) and getting to the next step...any other questions please feel free to pm me and not thread jack and put me down...

[ESmorz]

It's cool and all, but it looks like something I'd make in comp class...

Go simple, people with money looking to sponsor don't care about your html skills or presentation of a parts list. I would imagine they just want the cold hard facts.

[TougeLabs]

It's cool and all, but it looks like something I'd make in comp class...

Go simple, people with money looking to sponsor don't care about your html skills or presentation of a parts list. I would imagine they just want the cold hard facts.

If you call a company up and they are some what interested they will ask you for all the info. that is listed on my proposal.

So they can make sure of a few diff things, first of all no conflicting companies.

Like i said guys not done yet. will look much better when i finish
was just throwing the idea out

[McRussellPants]

i keep reading new stupid shit out of your mouth sorry Tougelabs is a small company i started up to help ppl out with sponsorships :) and getting to the next step...any other questions please feel free to pm me and not thread jack and put me down...

dude, if thats the best you can do you don't need to help people with sponsorships.

I know from experience. I've told people to avoid better proposals than yours just for the "why does it matter" you haven't sold anything, I still don't care about what your doing and people with money will be more critical than I will.

As much as it hurts your feelings and you want to cry about it, Me and Kidynomite have posted the only decent help you've gotten in this thread.

I agree about mods list in the dumpster, it makes me care less because the only part that shows any thought into going to bonneville is the underpan, the rest just points to you want money for your street car.

[McRussellPants]

quick, to the point, give a calender to when people will see your car. Make the person reading it think that a sticker on your car will make people check out their product (yeah, I saw the line 'hurr hurr I'll sell your product" thats not good enough, nor what Im talking about)


inbeforeignoresmebecauseitsnotwhatyouwanttohear.

[TougeLabs]

i thanked you mcrussel wtf is your issue im kidding around. your really taking this to heart dude... I have had great success with the whole shitty proposal thing i agree with you i was just doing this for fun...Check your rep as soon as i read what you said i + 1 you cause you guys pointed out some things. Dont put ppl down and come across like a di*k and you would have less of an issue.

[TougeLabs]

No dude im not ignoring you
I listen to everyone cause everyone has something to offer.
Like i said i threw it together its not done.
As for the copy i am not a writer im an artist so yes i could use some help.
help a brother out !

[luftrofl]

Grammar+word usage > you. I'm not trying to be an ass, but you should proofread your writing or take an English class. It doesn't have to be perfect but you've made some big errors.

After reading your "about me" section, I couldn't tell what you were writing about. The title of this thread is "online sponsorship proposal" but you hardly mention it on the entire web page. There is literally only one sentence that even mentions the fact, albeit vaguely, that you're looking for sponsors.

Edit: my criticism is harsh, but fair. I hope you don't think I'm an asshole for this :D

[TougeLabs]

It was just some quick copy guys nothing is permanent i just figured i would post it up due to the idea not the copy and shit...and i dont thinkg your an asshole
Im not a writer by any means i took english cause i had to for my major lol
someone step up and help me out

[johngriff]

Going to college > Sponsorship.

Just think about it.

Sponsors are more about established friendships and business relationships than blind funding, unless you are maybe the top 16 in whatever you do.

And don't post asking for a critique on something, then tell everyone it wasn't finished when you posted it. Post AFTER you are finished.

[TougeLabs]

I posted the fact that it was not finished
sorry for jumping the gun
someone delete this and ill repost it in a day or two

[zaneithan]

wow dude totally OT but you are in 845 area code too? im only like an hour from you haha, nice to see other 240 owners with a passion to do something with them around here

[TougeLabs]

That i am OT as well as OG haha got some more of it finished up today
Need to write the copy over and finish the windows for the popups for the piks
But yea coming together

[StaticX27]

To give you a general idea, the Tomei sponsorship forms are something around 13 pages of documentation that you have to not only explain who you are, what you do, etc, but also how is this going to benefit their company? And unfortunately "Spreading around your name and making you look good" is not a good enough reason. Most companies already have a good enough source of marketing, not to mention they probably would rather print an article in Super Street, Turbo mag, etc rather than give you thousands in parts.

Not trying to knock you for trying this, but effectively, you're putting your resume online and hoping someone will call and offer you a job. Like McRussel said, you need to give these people something in their hands and say "here ya go, this is why you're an idiot for not sponsoring me" kind of feeling. When you're sponsor searching, think of it a lot like job hunting, except even harder.

[Ian]

It's hard for me to think that someone who is competitive in a professional series will have trouble getting sponsorships this way and you won't


that's all i'm saying

[TougeLabs]

To give you a general idea, the Tomei sponsorship forms are something around 13 pages of documentation that you have to not only explain who you are, what you do, etc, but also how is this going to benefit their company? And unfortunately "Spreading around your name and making you look good" is not a good enough reason. Most companies already have a good enough source of marketing, not to mention they probably would rather print an article in Super Street, Turbo mag, etc rather than give you thousands in parts.

Not trying to knock you for trying this, but effectively, you're putting your resume online and hoping someone will call and offer you a job. Like McRussel said, you need to give these people something in their hands and say "here ya go, this is why you're an idiot for not sponsoring me" kind of feeling. When you're sponsor searching, think of it a lot like job hunting, except even harder.

And yes the garrett and Tial sponsor paper work was like 30 pages long. I dont expect that a company is going to stumble onto this but it is something extra to stand out and so far the companies that i deal with are loving the idea. I hope you guys check it out in a few days and give me more input this is something new and i have not seen anyone else with this so far. I think its a great idea for some of you guys... I guess ill be the test subject and we can really see if its worth it.

[TougeLabs]

It's hard for me to think that someone who is competitive in a professional series will have trouble getting sponsorships this way and you won't


that's all i'm saying

Are you saying its a good idea lol or are you agreeing with everyone else saying that its a failure and a really dumb idea?

[HyperTek]

Not bad.. if your going to be involved in this hobby, might as well shoot for something.

Long as your knowledgable and present yourself well, you should be ok. Hard to get full sponerships, but you more then easily can get partial sponerships. You gotta let people know that you can deliver and that this car woul dbe a better canidate over the next guy.

Trying to go super big though, then your car practically becomes not yours anymore....

Get involved in motorsports, sounds more appealing on a resume to potential sponsors instead of some guy who just wants free parts.

[TougeLabs]

Thanks hypertek
Thanks who ever neg repped me over trying something new...
Grow a sack and leave a name.

[SlideWell]

at least ur in the green now =p

[JVDSKYRINE]

Ummm get rid of the pics with the hideous chicks in bikinis they look like puke faces.....thanks

[TougeLabs]

Ummm get rid of the pics with the hideous chicks in bikinis they look like puke faces.....thanks

These piks were just place holders during design but Easy they are actually pretty fucking awesome girls

[Ian]

Are you saying its a good idea lol or are you agreeing with everyone else saying that its a failure and a really dumb idea?



i'm saying it's probalby not gonna work

[godzillarb]

I think a big part of the problem here is the factor that "nobody cares," such as was previously stated. I thought about trying to get my widebody 240sx rb26 car sponsored, but guess what, nobody cared.

Sure, almost everybody in the car scene within 100 miles of my home town knows me and my car, but so what? In all honesty, I can't see how I could really benefit a company who sponsored me. Does anyone really give a shit who sponsors cars? I know I wouldn't buy parts just because some guy had a sticker on his car.

Keep chasing the dream of sponsorship, maybe you'll find it. I doubt I will, especially because I stopped looking. If anything, I'll see about approaching local businesses that want a tax right off and are interested in racing. For example, the chiropractor my family goes to is always interested in how I was doing at the track and whatnot. There's a better chance I could get money / free services from him than some random company that doesn't know me. Hell, I might even be able to get some local restaurants or something. Key point, think outside the box.

Just my .02 :)

[stiizy]

These piks were just place holders during design but Easy they are actually pretty fucking awesome girls

I dont know bout all that!! the hottest chick on rix is Paula i know her personally she is cool as hell and Joanna all them other chicks are hurt especially trish and alice eww....RIX gets a big thumbs down from me after the way i saw Rico use and abuse good people...but hey thats my .02 cents

[s14_legend]

its alot harder to get sponsored these days because everyone wants to get sponsored...you have to really stand out and have a good relationship with the company...good luck tho'

[Sideways_In_SD]

Vertex Lang full kit your car has not young padawan.

Look to the force to guide you to a proper stance.

Also, if your goal is motorsports, how about some motorsports stats?? The proposal looks like a carshow project to me; show queens don't go 200 mph, they do 45 mph on the freeway w/blue tape all over the car.

Good luck, good first effort.

[s14_legend]

performance stats will definitely help alot...dyno sheets etc.

[Koopa Troopa]

Does the Japanese even say anything? It makes no sense to me...

[TougeLabs]

I dont know bout all that!! the hottest chick on rix is Paula i know her personally she is cool as hell and Joanna all them other chicks are hurt especially trish and alice eww....RIX gets a big thumbs down from me after the way i saw Rico use and abuse good people...but hey thats my .02 cents

First of all be fu*$ng easy bro talking about RIX i have worked with them since i was 16. I have never seen Rico do anything but put his ass out on the line and help ppl.

[TougeLabs]

Yea those piks guys are just place holders....lol i should of just waited till i was finished to bring it out to you guys lol...READ my build is coming to a some what end the car is all different now ill keep you guys up to date and it was a show car...Show car gets sponsors then you can do what ever you want.

[TougeLabs]

I think a big part of the problem here is the factor that "nobody cares," such as was previously stated. I thought about trying to get my widebody 240sx rb26 car sponsored, but guess what, nobody cared.

Sure, almost everybody in the car scene within 100 miles of my home town knows me and my car, but so what? In all honesty, I can't see how I could really benefit a company who sponsored me. Does anyone really give a shit who sponsors cars? I know I wouldn't buy parts just because some guy had a sticker on his car.

Keep chasing the dream of sponsorship, maybe you'll find it. I doubt I will, especially because I stopped looking. If anything, I'll see about approaching local businesses that want a tax right off and are interested in racing. For example, the chiropractor my family goes to is always interested in how I was doing at the track and whatnot. There's a better chance I could get money / free services from him than some random company that doesn't know me. Hell, I might even be able to get some local restaurants or something. Key point, think outside the box.

Just my .02 :)

I understand you 100% man it is a pain in the ass but you need to be more upfront and really do your best to get someone decent and then things will fall into place...Dont just stop trying, Thats why i was doing this so i would stand out with my presentation just another angle you know..

[TougeLabs]

Does the Japanese even say anything? It makes no sense to me...

GOOGLE did it so in all honesty prob not

[Koopa Troopa]

Well that would explain why it made no sense.

[TougeLabs]

LOL do you know of something that actually translates ?

[stiizy]

First of all be fu* easy bro talking about RIX i have worked with them since i was 16. I have never seen Rico do anything but put his ass out on the line and help ppl.


Did i say what you see??no i didnt i said from what i saw, so you need to relax there and stop getting hostile about other peoples opinions... its cool you been loyal for all these years but i've seen and heard some stories from people who used to be in Rix from the models to the crew...

[TougeLabs]

I just cant have someone bad mouthing them, they do a lot for the scene and the community. And i am relaxed i just stick up for them because they are like family and they have done way to much for me to just sit back and let someone talk sh*t.

[stiizy]

^^ you see i aint even talking s**t yet but i can but you know what i aint even gonna i know what i have seen and heard thats all..good luck to you trying to get sponsored btw its hard... but dont neg rep me for an opinion your gonna get alot of them positive and negative just learn to do what you want

[TougeLabs]

I didnt neg rep you bro...and thanks for the good luck I have had great success with doing it the half assed way with callin and emailing pik n bullshit and i think this will really work out and has already...Maybe this is the way to go? it shows the sponsors what your doing and were you are as well as other companies get to see that your not just another guy trying to get parts...even though i am and we all are just trying to get parts. Or money i would deff take money lol

[stiizy]

^^ yea true i got a few people i know who are sponsored i almost got a sponsorship from JIC like 3 years ago i had everything from them all suspension to exhaust and all that it was right when there wheels came out got those too for rota prices then when it all came down to it the guy helping out the quit or got fired or something??back when i had a shop in the west coast.. also you have to live up to all the companies requirements i knew a guy sponsored by greddy and some shop f'ed up his ride they aint care and sued him?? i don't know if i can talk bout that but hey thats what happened..

[TougeLabs]

Been through it man its hard...but hey look at me talking about rep lol i went from in the green to neg cause of this thread cause most of these kids are mad cause I actually get stuff from companies...good luck man if you ever need any help let me know

[legacy927]

Good Luck bro...I hope you'll get the sponsorship...

[txrxs]

ditch "the s14 project" name. Seriously, it might be the most played out name in history. Shit, I've got 3 people on my aim list that have the similar names: thes13project, thes14project, thesilvias13project.

[TougeLabs]

ditch "the s14 project" name. Seriously, it might be the most played out name in history. Shit, I've got 3 people on my aim list that have the similar names: thes13project, thes14project, thesilvias13project.

I will try to think up something a little more cunning thanks for your input man

[stiizy]

^^ zenki in progress.. zenki evolved haha just BSing

[RanciD]

All the BS aside, your page seems to have an issue loading in IE7 on my computer. When I open the page the actual content is way over to the right so I have to scroll through some blank space on the left to see everything. I'll post a picture so you can see what I mean. My resolution is 1280x1024 if that has anything to do with it (I'm not good with this whole internet thing).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/coreyrancid/untitled.jpg

Also just a suggestion but if you want to stick with the japanese I'd use a font that's more readable although understandably most people can't read it anyway.

[godzillarb]

I understand you 100% man it is a pain in the ass but you need to be more upfront and really do your best to get someone decent and then things will fall into place...Dont just stop trying, Thats why i was doing this so i would stand out with my presentation just another angle you know..

I figured out that with the time I spent trying to get sponsors, dealing with their shit, going to dumb shows, ect, I could have just worked and bought the parts myself. Maybe I'll give another go when my car is no longer in the project stage.

Anyways, more power to you if you can pull it off.

[TougeLabs]

Just wanted to thank you rancid and godzillarb for your input...I hate ie7 lol but i will make it browser friendly...I had a company call me today because of this post they have some great stuff check them out guys...



www.racebolts.com
www.tivalves.com

[Koopa Troopa]

LOL do you know of something that actually translates ?

Me depending on what you want written.

[Flipzide]

no offense to the OP, but why use japanese if you don't even understand what you're putting in the first place?

it reminds me of all those japanophiles who spend their whole day watching anime and try to speak to someone in japanese by just quoting a couple lines from a show.

[TougeLabs]

No i know what it is supposed to mean and i dont take offense to it....Google translator sucks i guess lol Koopa said he may have something better for me so we will see

[Trap Star]

My back ground in promotions and marketing rangebackground is one word.

After to speeking to a few gentlemen that run bonneville i was hookedShould be: speaking, Bonneville, I

in my generation into bonneville.Again, capitalize Bonneville

my idea through out the industry and received much interest through out.You can toss the second through out. It's redundant and doesn't add to what your saying.

There's some other stuff that needs work too but those are the biggest ones that stuck out. Also, some food for thought, its great that you have sponsors already but how do you represent them without having to actually tell people what is on the car? Maybe some actual visual representation on the car for your current sponsors would show that you are actually dedicated to those helping you out and those that are considering helping you out.

[Rob's S14]

try something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wFGYEvN8_4

[TougeLabs]

You guys are great that video is awesome thanks for the help...Anyway i started redoing the copy so i will keep you posted.

Thanks guys