Bodies?

[Unknown]

Which is the better body?

I want to know the personal thoughts and actually facts from everyone with an s13, doesn't matter what engine.

( Personally I like the trunk!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> )

Trunk:1
Hatch:0

[whateverjames]

hatch. but damn, i took out my whole stereo system and now i hear nothing but a million rattles. i'd go for a coupe next time.

[FRpilot]

i like the hatch.. but im starting to like the coupe too.. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> &nbsp;but i guess i would want a hatch before i get a coupe so i guess you can count me in for the hatch..

if you're lookin for a good handling car.. go for the coupe w/o sunroof.. glass sunroof and glass hatch offers more flexing than metal frame and a solid trunk which gives more structural integrity..

[AKADriver]

The coupe is slightly more rigid and 30lb lighter. &nbsp;Easy decision there. &nbsp;Not to mention hatches have water leakage issues around the taillights, rust-inducing foam spoilers on many, etc. etc.

I bought this hatch because it was convenient and mechanically perfect, but I wouldn't do it again. &nbsp;If I ever buy another S13 it'll be a coupe.

[Natty]

Fastback. More versatile and so damn sexy &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>
Jeff

[AutoDestruct]

#1 was a coupe and like iv'e heard said <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> &nbsp;it looks very R32. &nbsp; But 89 must have not been that great a year. &nbsp;Sohc and all, &nbsp;and so I got a 91 hatch that blows my mind. &nbsp; Buuttt. &nbsp; If I "had a dream" it would be a silvia stroker 240bodied SR2.2 powered DET dream. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah I vote trunked S13 with Silvia Reflector Headlights. &nbsp;Engine be damned. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

[misnomer]

You can't sleep in the back of a coupe. . .

The hatch is more useful, and definitely more sexy :-)

[Yoshi]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFastback! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[wpayne]

I personally prefer the the hatch over the coupe. However, if I were in Japan, it'd come very close but I think I would get a silvia over a 180sx.

[S13Slide]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (misnomer @ Nov. 08 2002,01:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You can't sleep in the back of a coupe. . .

The hatch is more useful, and definitely more sexy :-)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
how you gonna say the hatch is sexier (sp?) than the coupe? i vote for coupe
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p79332983b59c6193d988689d3279414f/fd1586ea.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p81b8ba473e0a05771c97f01fe2759bfe/fd12eef3.jpg

[AutoDestruct]

Coupe ! ! &nbsp; &nbsp; Coupe ! ! &nbsp; &nbsp; Coupe ! ! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

[240 2NR]

Well the hatchback does rattle a bit and the sunroof is lame, but it's so much more usefull. &nbsp;I can cram so much stuff in it (like a 27" sony Wega for example). &nbsp;Both styles appeal to me. &nbsp;The coupe looks tough, but the hatchback with some 180sx tailaights is so damn cool too.

If you have little to carry go for the coupe, if you like having the usefulness of a sizable truck, get a fastback.

[Unknown]

well sence i don't know what 249 2nr is going for then it seems...

Hatch:6
Trunk:6

hmm....there seems to be a prob there lol....

[RedlineRacer]

With those rims on that coupe and fastback, i don't think either look sexy like that. Those rims are hurting man.

[Russki]

The black hb looks incomplete without the rear bumper skirt. &nbsp;The car looks real nice until your eye hits the rear and just looks like its missing something. &nbsp;Other than that and the rims, it's a wet dream come true. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>

[thelinja]

I like the fastback most. &nbsp;But I really like seeing a coupe with an S13 front end conversion. &nbsp;Those are sweet.

[Joe_M]

I currently own both, and to tell the truth, I like driving my Coupe more. &nbsp;It just feels better for some reason, but my Fastback was my first RWD car, so it has a special place <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>.

As it sits now, it's a tie..... but once the k00p gets the SR20DET and the Silvia conversion, my vote goes to my k00p.

Joe

[Unknown]

well it looks as if there is a bit more to go but so far its the hatch

Hatch:8
Trunk:7

(come on ppl you know you like the trunk better)

[240Driver39]

Fastback all the way, the coupes looks are appealing in a certain way, but i still love my fastback &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>

[91CRXsiR]

i have a hatch but , i was looking for a koop , and there seems to be allot of ppl that want koops when they HAVE hatches, so i guess koop... but they are so damn rare..

[FRpilot]

aren't those Advan Racing Oni rims on the coupe.. how can those rims look fugly? i love the look and those rims.. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>

[Unknown]

Oh ya baby tied up again come on ppl start voting!!

Hatch:8
Trunk:8 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

come on ppl you can't tell me that this does not look good:love:
http://www.bomexaero.com/images1/s13/ad005cp.jpg

[DarkRaptor42]

I vote for the hatchback madness. Coupes are ugly as sin. Look like.... dare I say it... hondas!! Besides, the ladys prefer the hatchback to the coupe. My friend rolled up next to me in his coupe and me in my hatch. I got the whistles, he got dusted <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Hatchs rule, non flip up headlights though, not silvia conversion.

[sykikchimp]

Fastback! &nbsp;(i'm biased)

[Sr2O-det]

http://www.bn-sports.co.jp/s13t2/image/b_s13t2_rear.jpg

See why coupes are better other reason: There are less coupes. And yes it looks alredy damn sexy with out a wing and no words to describe it, if it got some clear tailigths on or skyline converion tailigths on. And you got a damn good looking RARE 240sx.

[drift freaq]

fastbacks they are real sports cars , coupes are sport sedans which are sports cars but not quite the same feeling IHMO and S14 are some of the sexiest looking sports coupes out there.
yet my vote still comes down to the 180sx i.e. S13 fastback <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

[goodjuan]

http://www.slidesquad.netfirms.com/s13blue%20recent%205.jpg

[goodjuan]

coupe or hatch..BLAH! &nbsp; CONVERTIBLE!!!! &nbsp;LOL

http://northwestnissans.com/gallery/s13_coupe/redsilvia.jpg

[wherezmytofu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AutoDestruct @ Nov. 07 2002,12:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Coupe ! ! Coupe ! ! Coupe ! ! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>

[Bald Tires]

coupe... i don't get asked to haul stuff for friends/family when the move. plus, my friends coupe makes a lot of noise. i've owned a coupe before my brother wrecked it and it took forever to try to find another one for sale in my area. people who have them don't like to get rid of them, that's for sure.

[LanceS13]

I've seen a few good looking coupes, but fastbacks always look good, even stock. &nbsp;Coupes look like ass stock.

[LanceS13]

Why is this in tech anyway?
This is chat stuff...we also have a poll section for stuff like this.
And in case I wasn't clear...fastback! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[Dousan_PG]

i have a fastback. but if i was to do it all over again, i'd go coupe.
no TWO TONE coupe..yeah.

[AKADriver]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LanceS13 @ Nov. 12 2002,11:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Why is this in tech anyway?
This is chat stuff...we also have a poll section for stuff like this.
And in case I wasn't clear...fastback! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
when it was in tech, I interepreted it as a tech topic.

There is a valid discussion of structural rigidity, aerodynamics, corrosion resistance, weight and weight distribution in there somewhere. &nbsp;Guess it got hammered down by "my car is prettier!" posts. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

[CoasTek240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AKADriver @ Nov. 06 2002,9:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The coupe is slightly more rigid and 30lb lighter. Easy decision there. Not to mention hatches have water leakage issues around the taillights, rust-inducing foam spoilers on many, etc. etc.

I bought this hatch because it was convenient and mechanically perfect, but I wouldn't do it again. If I ever buy another S13 it'll be a coupe.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
agreed.. gotta love the coupes.. soo clean <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>

[nrcooled]

gotta be the fastback. &nbsp;I mean, really, it's just so damn beautiful
disclaimer:
The views discussed in this post were those of the writter and not the staff of WNRC-nrcooled radio <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/music.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':music:'>

[SteveO109]

Fastback all the way. Like someone already stated the coupes look like the old HONDA prelude's.

[Stee Flo]

if you do a silvia front end conversion, the coupe wins hands down.

[Potatoskins02]

hatch.... gotta love those sil-eighties

[dtown240]

Let's add another vote for the hatch.

[drifterX87]

Hatch baby! &nbsp;All of the best sports cars are hatches, 180, Supra, RX-7, 300ZX, etc, etc...

Mike

[Teb74]

Put me down for the hatchback! I'm on my second one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
w00!

[RacerBoi]

A few people have been saying that the hatchback is the true sportscar. There are two things i see wrong with this. One is that the coupe slightly outperforms the hb, and two the sportscar flagship of nissan, the gtr is a coupe. So coupe all the way.

[SR20Fastback]

Fastback ownz me &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>

[itsybitsy240sxEy]

i'd have to say hatchback.. &nbsp;they're so dang sexy! &nbsp;the coupes don't have the curves of those rear fenders that i so lovingly gaze at while getting gas all the time. &nbsp;coupes are nice and sleek.. but don't look quite right unless they have the S13 front end conversion done. &nbsp;i've also found that you can both eat, sleep, and hang out in the hatch. &nbsp;can you say that about coupes? &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

janet

[D-STYLE180SX]

Fastback all the way!!!
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v3/8/62/95/53086295hpjeSa_ph.jpg


Sr20-det
Heres that BN sports coupe w/diff. tails

http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v4/4/46/27/55044627aKnTJe_ph.jpg

[drift freaq]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A few people have been saying that the hatchback is the true sportscar. There are two things i see wrong with this. One is that the coupe slightly outperforms the hb, and two the sportscar flagship of nissan, the gtr is a coupe. So coupe all the way. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Ok ya but there are two camps at Nissan one is the Skyline camp and the other is the Fairlady Z Camp. The Fairlady was considered the premier sports car of the company until the R32 GTR.
The Skyline cannot be compared technically to a Silvia coupe for one main reason . In its GTR form its AWD completely different beast.
Now lets get back to the Fastback it has a lower drag coefficent than either the S13 coupe or the S14(this is probably going to rile hippo, hehehe). That is a very important feature in a sports car of modern design.
once again I state I like all the cars even the S14 I am not biased against anyone like some people on this forum.
I just feel from a sports car sense the S13 Fastback is the shiznit.

[91CRXsiR]

what are you comparing... JDM coupe VS hatch? or US 240SX coupe vs fastback?...

the silvia coupe pics you guys are showing isn't really fair.. cuz the US version as we all know comes w/ a 180 front end

[uiuc240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SteveO109 @ Nov. 12 2002,2:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Fastback all the way. Like someone already stated the coupes look like the old HONDA prelude's.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
you think this....

http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~edjohnsn/REAR.jpg

looks like this???

http://www.watacchi.com/father/image/prelude.jpg

If anything, there is similarity to this...

http://www.caranddriver.com/image_cache/DATA/Caranddriver/images/2002/january/10best_gallery/1997_prelude.jpg

or maybe this....

http://209.63.142.100/new_arrivals/320x240/003717_dr.jpg

but then what about the similarities between this....

http://home.nycap.rr.com/hhotspot/240_qrtrear.JPG

and this....

http://www.autotoys.com/New_Tech/Cust_Installs/kop/probe1.JPG

That's all I have to say about that. The only thing I want to add is that coupes have nicer lines when paired with the Silvia front (the way it was meant to be)...but the fastback in its USDM form is more concinnuous (look it up).

Eric

[AutoDestruct]

Ha haha &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

The perved out ford probe. &nbsp;The hatch is so damn close, almost makes me gag. &nbsp;
But for real, there are absoulutely no curves on the old preludes. &nbsp;I have a coupe half stripped sitting on blocks with the 180(early) nose on it, and it still manages some definite curves. &nbsp;When lowered it looks almost like a flattened elongated Rx-7. &nbsp;The coupe body just looks more mean, &nbsp;The hatch, especially with the tail lights, comes off as almost pedestrian. &nbsp; The impression of a sports car is not as apparent as in the exotic look of the back half of the coupe. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; That reminds me ., &nbsp;I need a coupe really, really &nbsp;Bad. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

[drift freaq]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The coupe body just looks more mean, The hatch, especially with the tail lights, comes off as almost pedestrian. The impression of a sports car is not as apparent as in the exotic look of the back half of the coupe.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

hahahha thats too funny. Because I feel completely the opposite to you. I think the coupe looks pedestrian especially the back half.
The slope of the fastback is much more sports car like IMHO.
ah well one mans cup of coffee is another mans bilgewater . hahahhahaha

which makes me think this thread is dead its been beaten like a old horse

[direb0y]

I don't use my car to haul shit around, the trunk size doesen't bother me any. It's kinda rare too, compared to the fastback...but I will admit, it doesen't look all that great w/ the usdm front end.

So, I vote COUPE!

And I'd much rather have my car mistaken for a Quaalude than a Probe. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

p.s., My friend read some of this, and here's what he has to say:
"I feel at the end of the day we should a take pride and faith in that we own a car that is a Nissan that it stands for some good in the import world unlike some other company I will not speak about."

http://images.deviantart.com/large/photography/photomisc/Wingless1.jpg

[RedlineRacer]

I've always thought a coupe looks alot like a 1st gen 2dr Integra. The tails have almost the same shape and the rear end looks almost identical.

[AutoDestruct]

Good for you!! , freaq. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[logo20]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote &nbsp;
The coupe body just looks more mean, &nbsp;The hatch, especially with the tail lights, comes off as almost pedestrian. &nbsp; The impression of a sports car is not as apparent as in the exotic look of the back half of the coupe.


hahahha thats too funny. Because I feel completely the opposite to you. I think the coupe looks pedestrian especially the back half.
The slope of the fastback is much more sports car like IMHO.
ah well one mans cup of coffee is another mans bilgewater . hahahhahaha

which makes me think this thread is dead its been beaten like a old horse
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I'm with freaq, my vote to fastback
anyone keeping count?

[drifterX87]

Sometimes the beaten horses are the best horses.

Youre telling me this...
http://autospeed.com/site/autospeed/images/1056_3lo.jpg

doesnt resemble this...
http://www.freehomepages.com/wsod/cars/DSC00170.jpg

Kerrigan

[AutoDestruct]

lets whup ituntil it bleeds.
ha ha just joking
but
the coupe also is easier to see out the back window. &nbsp;I ts almost right there inyoou face compared to the length of the coupes. &nbsp; I just like that notched back look of the coupe.

now when you throw the S15s oin the front of the Coupe and make up some skyline like tails and your cooking with Gas!!

[MasterOFDrift]

The fastback, in my opinion, is sportier than the coup and also better : P. The tailights complete the look. I also agree that the coupe looks a lot like the older gen integras, well the back trunk area. So my vote is for the FASTBACK! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':baaa:'>

[Sr2O-det]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drifterX87 @ Nov. 12 2002,3:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hatch baby! All of the best sports cars are hatches, 180, Supra, RX-7, 300ZX, etc, etc...

Mike</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
How can usay that! skyline's are coupe's and are the best. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[240 2NR]

<!--QuoteBegin--drift freaq+Nov. 11 2002,01<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drift freaq @ Nov. 11 2002,01<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>2)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">fastbacks they are real sports cars , coupes are sport sedans which are sports cars but not quite the same feeling IHMO and S14 are some of the sexiest looking sports coupes out there.
yet my vote still comes down to the 180sx i.e. S13 fastback <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Huh?

coupe= 2 doors
sedan= 4 doors

I don't think there was ever a sport sedan version of the 240. &nbsp;Well, unless you consider camppain's custom 4 door ride with a transverse fwd sr20de usdm swap, and a 4x100 lug conversion.

More tidbits.

Coupe= stiffer and lighter
Fastback= a bit more aerodynamic and stable at speed

Looks are subjective. &nbsp;I have coupe days and hatch days.

[uiuc240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (James @ Nov. 15 2002,03:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drifterX87 @ Nov. 14 2002,6:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sometimes the beaten horses are the best horses.

Youre telling me this...
http://autospeed.com/site/autospeed/images/1056_3lo.jpg

doesnt resemble this...
http://www.freehomepages.com/wsod/cars/DSC00170.jpg

Kerrigan</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Why are you comparing a 180sx to a RED "X" <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That red X is actually a link to a Z32TT...black.

Actually, though, the Z from that side looks a lot like a Lotus.

Eric

P.S. Coupes are better!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>