Gauging interest in D2 Big Brake kit

[used240sxparts]

Hey Zilvians, we are thinking about bringing in a new product and would like to get some feedback. Final price for the full front brake upgrade with new pads/rotors/lines and calipers is still being worked out.

D2 Racing Sports big brake kits provide the ultimate in stopping power for your vehicle. Integrating new brake technology into the design of the kits allows for a kit that highly reduces brake fade and continually cools and refreshes the brake pads surface under braking. These brake systems are designed for easy installation with minimal tools required (in most applications).



The D2 Raciing Sports big brake kit includes:

8-Piston Aluminium calipers High quality brake pads D.O.T. Compliant Stainless steel brake lines Machined aluminium hats Carbon steel brackets 330mm (13") or 356mm (14") large ventilated 2 piece floating discs (17" wheels required) D2 Racing Sports SC5 street brake pads
http://www.d2racing.com/img/d2brake.jpg


The big brake kit is available for more then 400+ Applications. They have also passed tests from the ARTC, TÜV and DOT Approved, Just like the other big brake companies (Endless,Brembo,project mu ect)


So Tell me what you guys think, Would you buy them??Also what do you think the pricing should be??


Thanks!
-Eddie:2f2f:

[sr20powerd]

Not to be a jerk, but from what I can see, it looks like a re-badged K-sport 8 piston kit

[240trainee]

and K sport is rebadged D2.

they are the same thing, one is not better than the other.

[used240sxparts]

^beat me to it. D2 currently has a dealer for the suspension parts, but not for the big brake kits and we are working a contract right now with them to be the sole distributor, also aswell as the hydro ebrakes.

[Bushido]

all depends on price and performance.

D2/K-sport doesn't exactly have the best name out there, therefore i think these would have to cost considerably less than brembo/rotora/endless setups, even if they functioned just as well.

[txrxs]

I think your best price point would be as cheap as possible. I'm not being sarcastic when I say this. D2 doesn't have the best rep around here, but 75% of this reputation is hearsay stacked on top of hearsay. Maybe do a small number at cost, then have the buyers report back on quality, performance, and value. This could help strengthen the brand also.

I think posting a price will also help people decide if this is right for them or not.

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

I would say a 13" rotor and 6 piston caliper needs to be in the low $1000's and the 14" rotor and 8 piston caliper needs to be in the mid to high $1000's. Keep it like this for a while to build more of a name and offer some kits to some drift/show cars (like mine wink wink) as a sponsor and have the D2 name associated with high performance and the business will start pouring in.

[pinkarrowsnow]

txrxs thats a good idea.
Also if people gave them good reviews I would have no problem buying a set.

[murda-c]

I like the color....

any rear available?

[LongGrain]

I think your best price point would be as cheap as possible. I'm not being sarcastic when I say this. D2 doesn't have the best rep around here, but 75% of this reputation is hearsay stacked on top of hearsay. Maybe do a small number at cost, then have the buyers report back on quality, performance, and value. This could help strengthen the brand also.

I think posting a price will also help people decide if this is right for them or not.

it would take so long to be able to come up with an accurate review though, you cant just slap the brakes on and write a review on them after a day or even a week. i'm sure they will work just fine at first. but who knows what will happen after 6 months or a year.

[Sonic Motor]

all depends on price and performance.

D2/K-sport doesn't exactly have the best name out there, therefore i think these would have to cost considerably less than brembo/rotora/endless setups, even if they functioned just as well.

Rotora isnt as good as you think it might be.
Its all hype and good advertisement.

back to topic.
How much are the brake kits going to cost???

I love their(D2) fking ads at the taiwanese aftermarket autoshow. Did anyone see my post before it got taken down? lol

[DOOK]

if you could get the contract and offer the 13 inch kit for less than a grand it would sell a ton.

[drftwerks]

Rotora isnt as good as you think it might be.
Its all hype and good advertisement.



i have always felt this way, esp with their drift cars.

[GSXRJJordan]

The real competition here is not Rotora/Endless/Etc... It's the 13" and 14" Wilwood setups you can get for less than $1k - usually $700/axle. They're track proven, too.

You better be priced as close as possible to the $500 mark, to catch people that can spend a little more than they would on a Z32 swap, but less than a real 'racing' Wilwood setup.

[YoungGun]

Pink calipers = the womens in your back seat

[DOOK]

Pink calipers = the womens in your back seat

apparently you are color blind... those calipers are definitely purple my friend :keke:

[used240sxparts]

For right now I am unable to disclose any pricing, but it will be priced fairly lower then the ksports... I have 3 sets comming in and we will be testing them out on our cars. I may also offer some to locals at cost for feedback.

[used240sxparts]

As much as I would like to sell them for $500.00 it wont happen...It couldnt lol
The real competition here is not Rotora/Endless/Etc... It's the 13" and 14" Wilwood setups you can get for less than $1k - usually $700/axle. They're track proven, too.

You better be priced as close as possible to the $500 mark, to catch people that can spend a little more than they would on a Z32 swap, but less than a real 'racing' Wilwood setup.

[Bobafreak]

Yeah 1000.00 you can get a full set up inculding braided lines and prop valve through hotrod. what pbc said. Good to see other option though.

[CursedGTR]

You can always, just give me a set and then I will beat the crap out of them and my Rotora 355mm 6POT and see which ones I like more, then I will do a write up on them. Although, it is going to be a few more months until I am rolling. :)

Just a point I have to make for some nay sayers- Most Big Brake kit calipers are NOT manufactured by the company that is distributing. Greddy Calipers are manufactured by Alcon, I believe Rotora is a rebadged SARCO and to tell you the truth, half of the other companies out there doing calipers are hydraulic companies because brakes alone just doesn't make any money. So it may or may not be D2 actually making the calipers. I know those kits are for sale over here in some Option Mags I think they go for somewhere in the 3G range IIRC, but then again, everything is more expensive in Japan because Hobbyists/Enthusiasts will just pay for shit most of the time (I swear to god COmpanies here in Japan that are rebadging shit from the States HKS, Greddy just to name one or two are paying retail and then marking it up because the prices are that inflated). I have yet to see these calipers on a car though.


As far as pricing, I would do the business thing, Buy them for as cheap as possible and sell them for as cheap as possible without fucking yourself out of a reasonable profit. Maybe throw a set at some reputable guys THAT ARE NOT FLAKES to go and kick the crap out of them on a track and do a review of how well they stood up as compared to previous set ups. Then you can steadily increase prices based on demand.

I know jack shit about business though, I played lemonade stand on an apple IIe when I was a kid though (if any of you guys can remember 6th grade in the mid eighties).

[mothon]

Maybe throw a set at some reputable guys THAT ARE NOT FLAKES to go and kick the crap out of them on a track and do a review of how well they stood up as compared to previous set ups. Then you can steadily increase prices based on demand.

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Ya just give a set to dousan, and if he likes them everyone will buy.

[ROIDMONKEY]

The real competition here is not Rotora/Endless/Etc... It's the 13" and 14" Wilwood setups you can get for less than $1k - usually $700/axle. They're track proven, too.

You better be priced as close as possible to the $500 mark, to catch people that can spend a little more than they would on a Z32 swap, but less than a real 'racing' Wilwood setup.
willwood quoted me front and rear setup for 2250 , not bad at all. front are 330 and rear i believe the same . bought project MU tho

[anotherblusi]

i'd stick to brembo or AP (which is now brembo as well). All other calipers and rotors are china/tawain shit which is almost every other big name brand company.

[YoungGun]

apparently you are color blind... those calipers are definitely purple my friend :keke:
whatever, pink or purple, still get the women.

[a_ahmed]

The real competition here is not Rotora/Endless/Etc... It's the 13" and 14" Wilwood setups you can get for less than $1k - usually $700/axle. They're track proven, too.

You better be priced as close as possible to the $500 mark, to catch people that can spend a little more than they would on a Z32 swap, but less than a real 'racing' Wilwood setup.

I was just gona say that, for 1000$ i can get brand new willwood two piece rotors aluminum hats, blank/slotted/drilled whatever your choice but obviously for track I wouldnt run drilled... track pads, lines, fluid, their 6 piston proven light forged calipers and with 13.2" rotors...

For 700 you get the rear which is 12"ish i forget exactly and 4 piston their super light forged calipers again... same story again: two piece rotors, pads, lines, fluid, all the gizmos, etc.. like frickin wow

AND this is track proven, road proven, quality, durable, proven increased stopping power, fade resistance, etc...

like cmon... just because you can have 12 pistons lmao tiny tit pistons doesnt mean its like woah wow and omg jdm tyte or something :loco: Seriously you wana sell this stuff you better look at 500$ mark.

Bigger doesn't necessarily mean better, heavier definetely doesn't mean better, shinier definetely doesn't mean better unless glitter and lipstick are your think (and i know its hot but cmon we're men).

And well.. honestly if you can't do 500 lol :P It's understandable but, seriously you have some SERIOUS SERIOUS competition here...

[1TP]

I like! But as usual, comes down to price. "NEW" things these days seem to hit the market with a pretty heavy price tag & that puts the buyer in a situation where he/she must spend the extra $1-2-300 for something thats known & proven to work rather than take a chance on something new thats a couple of hundread cheaper. Sell'em cheap, prove your product 1st. If they're priced anywhere around the known, proven products, they wont do too good. Sell'em so cheap that the consumer has no choice but to try them! Bottom line is........If you want to sell a new product, you have to take a little hit. If it turns out to be a good product then you will recover sooner than you expect.

[ROIDMONKEY]

All other calipers and rotors are china/tawain shit which is almost every other big name brand company.
WRONG............

[CursedGTR]

Bayside Stark is selling the D2 356mm rotor kit here in Okinawa for 380,000 yen. I went and asked around to make sure that I was not talking out of my ass on my previous post.

[muddafakka]

i'd stick to brembo or AP (which is now brembo as well). All other calipers and rotors are china/tawain shit which is almost every other big name brand company.
What proof do you have to back up this statement?

[ROIDMONKEY]

found a set of the 8 pistons on ebay for US $1,925.00

[Koopa Troopa]

Let me borrow a set. I'll run the dog piss out of them and then pass them off as gold!!

[Touge_Monster]

If these were priced around 1000 I would deff get some.

[ROIDMONKEY]

LOL , people want shit for free all the time. stay with Z32 then

[used240sxparts]

First off, no one is getting them for free.. sorry guys :) and for the people that will be testing them out I will give them at cost and will only be a couple local guys that I can trust and know that they will beat on them at events. As of right now I like the response that I am getting, as the way it looks pricing will be in the low $1,000's...D2 has proven its self overseas, so it will just be a matter of time. We will also be selling the hydro e-brakes.

keep the chat going though :)

Thanks for all the replys!!

[blitzkrgCT9A]

Not to be a jerk, but from what I can see, it looks like a re-badged K-sport 8 piston kit

K-sport is probably the rebadged D2.

http://www.d2racingsport.com/profile.htm

And for those of you like to know, D2 is a pretty big company based in Taiwan/China, they are a member of AMPA (automobile motorcycle parts association), and annually they have their display at the AMPA show in Taipei (actually its this weekend!). And of course they are always at SEMA here in U.S :)

http://www.taipeiampa.com.tw/

[naed240sx]

Nobody needs brakes that large for S-chassis unless they are doing seriously fast wheel to wheel racing in an actual racecar that is making huge power.....and nobody with such a car would cheap out on brakes and buy ksport/d2....they would be buying stoptech or brembo.

Z32's with a set of street pads and a set of track pads are more than enough for anybody else. Maybe 350z rotor conversion if neccesary.

Therefore the only market for these are people who want blingy looking brakes behind their wheels.

[Koopa Troopa]

They're actually not that big... According to the sizes he listed my Brembo 4 pots are bigger and have a larger rotor...

[anotherblusi]

WRONG............

HAHA you are in for a rude awakening... Do you really think that the big name brand companies really have there stuff made in the USA, or EUROPE, CANADA, or even JAPAN, for that matter? China is the worlds largest OEM brake component manufacturer in the world. I wouldn't even be surprised if brembo switched over to china in the future. And rather than name names, hows this. Why don't you guys email or call these supposed reputable bbk companies and ask them where there stuff is made. I can guarantee they would proudly tell you its made in the USA, EUROPE, CANADA, OR JAPAN, IF IT WERE SO...