<b> Just bought my first s14!

[whosaidthenword]

Hi, i just bought an s14 that is all stock. i was wondering if u guys could just tell me what are the first things i should do to the engine for more power and efficiency. im thinking of buying a turbo charger but don't want to spend too much. i was wondering what upgrades should i start with that are around the $50 to hundreds. please gimme some advice. imma fooking noob.

[blu808]

Your first upgrade should be a track day.

You will learn sooooo much about your driving skill, and your cars performance. That will give you a great baseline to build on. It will also show you where your car needs help.

Stock KA is fine for a beginner. Start with suspension.

Hit up the classifieds section, or one of our forum sponsors for good deals.

[Shaminii]

Get some gas in the tank?

[luisgonz]

Your first upgrade should be a track day.

You will learn sooooo much about your driving skill, and your cars performance. That will give you a great baseline to build on. It will also show you where your car needs help.

Stock KA is fine for a beginner. Start with suspension.

Hit up the classifieds section, or one of our forum sponsors for good deals.

I agree, Get to know your hardware.LOL Ka's are fun to beat up.:doh:

[blu808]

Ill beat up your KA anytime.

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[d*star180]

Your SN is fucking hilarious.

[whosaidthenword]

hahahah yeah. but so sad dawg. my ka only has 60k. i dont wanna beat it up mang. i wanan like just like increase power on the ka without using alot of $$$$. come on help me out black pride!!!

[blu808]

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$500 go as fast as you want.

[theronin]

change out every fluid that was in the car when you bought it. get a good set of rwd offset wheels and some good rubber. then choose how you want to go susp wise either mix and match or go with a coilover setup. power should really be the last thing on the list. you want to be comfortable in the car and your driving skills before you go and throw 100+ hp at her.

[2,1]

Well your better off just keeping it stock untill you can afford to spent the kind of money your talking about. Turbos arnt cheap. Hell anything worth putting on this car isn't cheap. But for startes do cold air intake. Pretty cheap and adds HP. Fuck the turbo for now tho. Id do exaust then supsion then 5 lug conversion.

[JRas]

What is the use of the car?

[JVD]

Don't buy cheap mods for the most part. They are tempting... but I always end up just replacing it with better shit later on. Waste of money. Do it right the first time.

[whosaidthenword]

Its already a 5 lug :]]]. Ok i wanna do the cold air intake and the suspension first. help me ninjas? wheres the best place with the best price for these?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Jeez, freaking search...go lurk around and see what people are doing to thier cars so you can get an idea on what to go with. Fuck that cold air intake bullshit if your gonna go turbo anyways. Save your money and use that for suspension upgrades more than anything else. You wont make a KA go fast with anything less than $1000 (k I take that back, junkyard turbo kit maybe, assuming you dont blow the engine).

[stupid nissan]

if you wanna get a little more pep outta the motor get a lightened fly wheel and clutch should be replaced anyway and a limited slip diff if it doesnt already have one and it doesnt have to be a thousand dollar one either weld it or grab a vlsd from another car and seat time that is what i recommend

[spooled240]

The first thing I did to my car was buy a turbo, so the car was basically a 250 rwhp car all on stock suspension, and 4 lug steelies...now I'm wearing out my suspension bushings and replacing them...

my advice would be to replace all the suspension bushings (not too much money) get a vlsd, wider wheels and a suspension upgrade (be it coils or struts/springs, depends on the car's application and how much you wanna spend) then maybe a larger exhaust if you wanna go turbo later on, 4-2-1 headers with the Blitz Nur Spec R exhaust sounds soooooo nice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2mXVFZJQoA



a CAI is a waste of money man, some are 300 dolllars for like 2 hp...fuck that.

[sunnys14]

Hey! Thats my car from 2004! Memories...

[blasting_speed]

i would honestly work on clutch, flywheel, and suspension. Forget the engine for now. Have fun with the car before you get all crazy money wise. Drive the car like that for a while. Get an exhaust. Are you going to get an SR or are you going to keep the KA??? Do some research.

[spooled240]

haha sunny that's you? Your car has come a long way..

BTW, for whoever got butt hurt over me posting the vid of the 240 "speeding" and gave me a neg rep, I was just showing the sound aspect not the speed... sorry, I just thought we were all old enough to think for ourselves.

[whosaidthenword]

ok. so should i just get a maf adapter and a K&N filter first? and whats the difference between coilovers, springs? and struts? wtf????

[whosaidthenword]

im also gonna be keeping the ka for a while because its a waste if i don't use it. it only has 60k on it. i really wanna do some body work and paint the car too. but it just sucks ass right now cause its so slow. i can't haul ass. so sad....

[spooled240]

can you post a pic please!

Lowering springs: Shorter coil springs usually lowers car anywhere from 1"-2" and MOST are stiffer. This is most likely the cheapest option.

Performance struts: Basically stiffer shocks that can handle really short coil springs. Some are adjustable air shock that allows you to adjust the dampening and stiffness like the AYG KGB's.

Coilovers: ultimate but come in a hefty price tag (usually around 1000-2000) Usually with coils you can adjust the ride height, camber and have the stiffness needed for serious racing.

[blitzkrgCT9A]

ok. so should i just get a maf adapter and a K&N filter first? and whats the difference between coilovers, springs? and struts? wtf????

Coilover
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


A Coilover used in the double wishbone suspension on a Lotus 7.A
coilover is an automobile suspension device, short for "coil (spring) over strut". It consists of a shock absorber (British: damper) with a coil spring encircling it. The shock absorber and spring are preassembled as a unit prior to installation, and are replaced as a unit when the shock absorber has leaked. This provides for optimal damping without torsional loads. Some coilovers are adjustable for ride height and hardness as well using a simple threaded spring perch similar to a nut.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Lot007.jpg/240px-Lot007.jpg

The coilover is a basic component of the MacPherson strut suspension system, which is distinguished from other arrangements by employing a particular design of anti-roll bar as a longitudinal constraint. This was the first widespread use of the coilover in automobile suspensions. But there are other designs; the word coilover should not be considered a synonym for the MacPherson strut arrangement.

Coilovers should not be confused with struts or independently mounted shock absorbers.

See this article for an in-depth explanation of coilovers and their function: http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/coilovers/Part_1/

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coilover"

when you hear people say coilovers, most people meant the adjustable coilovers like this:
http://www.jscspeed.com/part_pictures/cusco_z1_wrx.jpg

[wylin]

im also gonna be keeping the ka for a while because its a waste if i don't use it. it only has 60k on it. i really wanna do some body work and paint the car too. but it just sucks ass right now cause its so slow. i can't haul ass. so sad....

for a stock KA i'd stick to simple bolt ons that can be recycled for a turbo car.

such as a 75-80mm exhaust, suspension as everyone said, and some type of LSD.

Since the 240 is such a old car most simple bolt-on's do yield power. And you are in LA so check out the local section of the forum in the Southwestern states.

Go to meets and events and see what others have done.

As for socal vendors:

i like the forum sponsor www.phase2motortrend.com the most, as its pretty much a sandbox when it comes to parts combinations.

[joshchewuhh]

$50-100 isnt going to get you much!

but first thing should def be an alarm, new bushings and perhaps coils screw the engine for a while you can drive fast later

[240cracker]

if i had an all stock s14 again hmmm...
i dont think id buy an SR again thats fosho.
Id take that $50 and change all ur fluids ext.

then save your $ and do some minor bolt ons to the motor along with some coils.

thats me on a budget though..

[legacy927]

Invest on a alarm first...240s is like the new civic..gets stolen from left to right...then work up on the suspension, then on the motor...get to know your car first...AND DONT GO FOR EBAY PARTS!!!!!!!! Rememeber...its what you pay is what you'll get....

good luck...

[wylin]

Invest on a alarm first...240s is like the new civic..gets stolen from left to right...then work up on the suspension, then on the motor...get to know your car first...AND DONT GO FOR EBAY PARTS!!!!!!!! Rememeber...its what you pay is what you'll get....

good luck...

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[emersonLP]

Maintain first. Do the basics like changing fluids. Sure through a drop-in K&N filter in too, itll sound pretty good and give you a little more air. Then start on suspension and brakes. What are your plans for the car? If you want into drifting you should get a diff as one of your first purchases.

[azndoc]

The first upgrade you should do to the car and it's the JDM squash air freshner. For the girls yo.

That's all.

[Om1kron]

you guys are being suprisingly nice and helpful, i for one am slightly amused and very surprised.

I think instead of worrying about what mods you should put on your car.

learn how to drive it, and get an alarm.

You can install tv's and carbon fiber rice parts at a later date.

[Signum Temporis]

first, dissable the switch on the back of the clutch (buy cutting the in and out cables then jumping them together) so that you dont have to push it down to start the car... then buy coilovers, tension rods, tie rods, sway bars, RUCAS, and of coarse... SHOES! but first of all study the FSM and go through the car to see how it works, thats a good way to learn... screw body kits, nissans dont need body kits!

[Phlip]

Birthdate January 28, 1992.
I strongly suggest a long, thorough and exhaustive search, EVERYTHING you want to do has been and will be covered.
Second power and efficiency are not generally items that come together at the same time, especially not cheaply. It's been said
Fast, cheap, reliable, you may choose two.

[jackjack]

if you can afford to go turbo, go for it. if not i'd say start with suspension, and some bolt on parts (for the engine).

[advin builtsr20]

ALARM first will be great and won't disappoint! I remember when I got my first 240sx I did sr20det, and everything else along with it as well as wheels coilovers just everything within the first month n half. One thing I did not get was an ALARM!! DAMN DO I REGRET THAT! shit got broken into n madd stuff got stolen, they couldn't take the car cause of my nifty clutch lock! but still! ALARM!!!

[johnksoy]

this thread sucks

[Signum Temporis]

alarm... and rig a fuel pump cutoff switch mounted in a secret spot, well worth not getting ur car stolen, plus it would be under $25

[whosaidthenword]

thanks guy for all the help. i just dont know shit about 240sx and i just got mine. mine already has a good alarm. so i don't have to worry about that. im not sure if i already have lsb cause mine is the SE model. but i guess i really should upgrade the suspension first then. where are good places i can buy from? thanks

[whosaidthenword]

and should i get a whole short intake kit? or should i just get a k&n cone filter and connect it to the existing intake with a maf filter? i don't know if this is good i just read it from somewhere. thanks

[Flipzide]

If I had to go back in time. I would've just thrown on a cone filter and MAF adaptor over my Injen Short Ram.

[pbcstylez]

sell the craptastic vlsd that came wit ur car n buy a real lsd, i think u'll get more out of that

[Steveohoes]

WELD YOUR DIFF! it only costs around $70 and it basically makes your car alot easier to drift with

dont buy any suspension stuff yet, only buy it when your at the point you need them, just weld your diff and get a stiff suspension(coilovers), and from there on you could get subframe spacers, tie rod spacers, RUCA's... no need to go turbo, if u need power just get intake and exhuast

[CSil80]

Well if he has a VLSD with only 60K on it, I'd keep it.
Go track the car with the V-diff, it'll be more then enough for starters.