Engine Build costs?

[Rocko]

Iv been trying to price out a rebuild for my SR and was wondering if anyone could give me a ballpark idea on what the costs are for machine shop and assembly work?

So far the parts for OEM Seals/Gaskets/Waterpump with ARP Head Studs and Eagle Rods/CP Pistons is around 1600, I figure closer to 2000 once I throw in an Oil pump and other odds and ends.

Im trying to get an idea of what kind of cash Im looking at for Machine shop/ Assembly cost to get all this put together if I decide to do all the legwork myself instead of letting a local shop handel it all.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

sh*t man I'd rather swap in an RB20 in, I calculated 1800-2000 for complete swap, then sell your sr stuff, and get yourself a nice Fmic/bov.

[Koopa Troopa]

I'll destroy any RB20 with my SR on .5 bar. :rofl:

Why the Eagle rods and pistons? S15 rods and pistons are more than enough and will probably be cheaper direct from Nissan.

Do the legwork yourself. You'll gain nothing but information and know how out of it and there's plenty of information on the net to prevent you from screwing anything up as long as you follow the step by step procedures, use the right tools and don't get ahead of yourself.

If I was going as far as to strip an entire motor apart I'd do alot more than rebuild it with OEM parts but that's just me...

[Erjay1]

What kind of power can be squeezed out of a built sr20 and stock turbo? Also, where can I find more info on how to swap one of these out?

[Koopa Troopa]

Uh not alot cause it's a stock turbo...

You could make more power out of a stock SR20 and a big turbo then you can out of a built SR20 and a stock turbo...

[DJDANGER24]

stock S15 turbo ? ~300 HP S14 is ~280HP

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

I'll destroy any RB20 with my SR on .5 bar. :rofl:

Why the Eagle rods and pistons? S15 rods and pistons are more than enough and will probably be cheaper direct from Nissan.

Do the legwork yourself. You'll gain nothing but information and know how out of it and there's plenty of information on the net to prevent you from screwing anything up as long as you follow the step by step procedures, use the right tools and don't get ahead of yourself.

If I was going as far as to strip an entire motor apart I'd do alot more than rebuild it with OEM parts but that's just me...


uhhhh......:bs: you can try buddy, with your whopping 170hp to the wheels, and my 230 to da wheels on stock boost. oh and now the good part, my motor is more reliable/cheap/waaaaay better sounds too but, just my thoughts I guess

[cdlong]

sh*t man I'd rather swap in an RB20 in, I calculated 1800-2000 for complete swap, then sell your sr stuff, and get yourself a nice Fmic/bov.

that's nice, but this thread isn't about what you'd rather do.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

that's nice, but this thread isn't about what you'd rather do.

Its also not about lets be a dick and hate on rb guys, I'm just pointing out an alternative to a costly engine rebuild

[f1nch]

build it right the first time

cheap.reliable.fast. <- pick 2

[Fries]

OEM rebuild is where its at if you're not planning on running like 400hp anytime soon. (yea yea stock motor is rated at 400+) The more OEM parts on a car, the better it runs generally. I too am curious about the general price to have a shop rebuild my head. ( hate doing head work! )

But, prices will vary depending on your location/mechanic. Basically just go to some reputable shops and ask.

[250sxdet]

uhhhh......:bs: you can try buddy, with your whopping 170hp to the wheels, and my 230 to da wheels on stock boost. oh and now the good part, my motor is more reliable/cheap/waaaaay better sounds too but, just my thoughts I guess
Ummm I hate to burst your bubble, but rb25's make about 230whp on stock boost...not rb20's.

[Ian]

built motor, including assembly parts and everything is around $2500-$3000

Stock rebuild is like $1000-$1500 depending on what you get

[WISH ONE]

this shop here in LA (r&d factory) quoted me like 1500 for back to stock sr build if i brought them the motor, but that was like 1 1/2 years ago.i dont know how pricing is where youre at but just to give an idea...... oh and rb20s are worthless, go big(25,26 or go home.... just my opinion, don't start a fight over it. he mentioned nothing about buying an rb20 he simply wanted a rebuild estimate for AN SR.

[eastcoastS14]

uhhhh......:bs: you can try buddy, with your whopping 170hp to the wheels, and my 230 to da wheels on stock boost. oh and now the good part, my motor is more reliable/cheap/waaaaay better sounds too but, just my thoughts I guess


I think you need to learn "da" correct information

also I think koopatroopa might know a little more about SRs than you...just a thought

[babowc]

it costed me maybe a total of $1200-1500 just for rebuilding the motor.
shotpeened rods, CP pistons, completely built head, bc 264 cams, machine work.
i need to get new timing and oil pump parts..
KA24De, btw.
also keep in mind.. i got really good deals on parts.

[Kuzumi]

i am doing everything over. i am projecting my build to be 4k. that is mostly labor as i am going either tomei or hks solid pivot, more head work. i already have replacement parts.
make sure you replace main things that might fail; pumps, timing assembly, blah blah blah

[babowc]

^l;ol
thats exactly what i DIDNT do.

ughhh.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

sorry to keep off topic but wow, to the pple who neg repd me, and didn't leave a name, what a buncha pu$$ies, back your shit up b4 you tlk. sorry again, and no, those numbers are pretty acurate unless you're an idiot and don't know how to do a swap. idk about rb25's on an s13 chasis, but yes, stock redtop SR dyno=160-170hp and stock silvertop rb20 dyno= 220-230hp, if you don't beleive me ask otis or josh over a RB-Performance, I'm pretty sure they have dyno sheets. and yes, I realize kooper is alot more knowledgeable with sr20's, I didn't realize that when he said .5 bar he didn't mean stock.

[HalveBlue]

Depends on how much you want to delve into things.

I just did a rebuild on my SR20 and here's approximately what I spent:

-OEM Waterpump: $67
-Circuit Sport Exhaust elbow: $157
-OEM Intake tube: $129
-Exhaust Gaskets: $7.50
-OEM Gasket Kit: $175
-OEM 3-wire O2 Sensor: $57
-OEM Timing Chain: $69
-S14 Upper Waterneck: $55
-OEM Thermostat: $15
-OEM Oil Pan: $55
-OEM Oil Pump/Front Cover: $189
-OEM Oil Pickup: $20
-NGK BRK6 Sparkplugs: $25
-Machine Work (Polished crank, piston ring gapping, head polishing, new crank and rod bearings, cylinder bore, cleaning): ~$350
-CP Pistons: $500
-Seida Connecting Rods: $295
-Vacuum Hoses: $30
-A'PEXi Air Filter: $85
-Taka Turbo Lines: $160
-ARP Headstuds: $113

That comes out to over $2,500 and doesn't include shipping and taxes, plus tools, lubricants, and the money I paid in bay fees a the autoshop.

Hope that kinda gives you an idea of how much you're looking at. Obviously, some of the stuff you can save quite a bit of money, for instance, going with OEM rods and pistons, or reusing parts like the current oil pump if it's in good condition.

Anyway, I hope that gives you a decent estimate of how much you're looking at.

Good Luck!

[babowc]

Rebuilds aren't cheap..
thats for sure.

[250sxdet]

sorry to keep off topic but wow, to the pple who neg repd me, and didn't leave a name, what a buncha pu$, back your shit up b4 you tlk. sorry again, and no, those numbers are pretty acurate unless you're an idiot and don't know how to do a swap. idk about rb25's on an s13 chasis, but yes, stock redtop SR dyno=160-170hp and stock silvertop rb20 dyno= 220-230hp, if you don't beleive me ask otis or josh over a RB-Performance, I'm pretty sure they have dyno sheets. and yes, I realize kooper is alot more knowledgeable with sr20's, I didn't realize that when he said .5 bar he didn't mean stock.

Sorry to be off topic, but this guy is just wrong. An rb20det stock has 215ps so with drivetrain loss youre looking about 190-ish whp. So how is it that you think you can get 220-230WHP on stock boost? If you say crank hp, which you didnt, i would believe you. On the other hand, rb25's put out 250 hp stock so with drivetrain loss it is expected that you will have 230whp. Dont say i dont know shit because i have an rb25 and i have seen dyno graphs for 20's 25's and 26's. So you should do some research before you go running your mouth. BTW what does doing a swap have to do with how much power you make?

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

if you don't use the right parts, specially exhaust/fuel pump, or don't set the timing/sensors right, have vac leaks or boost leaks, all that stuff makes a huge difference. yes, 215 is what they are rated at, but then again, the rb26 is rated at 287, it puts down round 320-330. and to the guy who neg repd me and said" why would you want extra weight and 2 more cylinders above your front axle" well why don't you go and flame atsuki kuroi for driftin an rb26 s13 at D1, one of the few pple in the world who se a D1 history world record ask him....... and to end this stupid numbers game, I'll post a few links of vids, links to confirm dyno numbers so all you haters can quit being sore losers.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

gahhh, can't find the rest, I'll look later. look through this one, theres a few stock ones just convert kw to hp and if you can't do that, then that's probably why you drive an sr. haha jk jk have fun pple.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Rb20-Turbo-Upgrade-Dyno-t103095.html

[blownmotor]

One word baby Mazworx if you want and Sr built right go to them and have it done that way you know it'll be done right

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

anywho, Rocko, sorry if I created such drama, just trying to help you out with some info, good luck with your sr rebuild, if you do end up going that route, please post as much info as you can about how much it cost and all, I'm kinda curious. thnx

[whereda40at]

i have spent over 8 thousand in my motor build. it realy all depends on that you want and do. it can range from 2 grand to 12 grand. but i didnt do the head. so i could have gone more.

[eastcoastS14]

gahhh, can't find the rest, I'll look later. look through this one, theres a few stock ones just convert kw to hp and if you can't do that, then that's probably why you drive an sr. haha jk jk have fun pple.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Rb20-Turbo-Upgrade-Dyno-t103095.html

dude what are you arguing?? are you arguing stock SR vs. stock RB20? or modified vs. modified? at first I thought that you were arguing that an RB20 came making better numbers stock but that link you just posted is all ppl with modified RB20s. Why go for the extra weight and still keep the 2.0liter displacent? not to mention a sr with a t28, fmic, z32 Maf, ROM tune, inj and walbro can make about 250whp....my last SR was making 350whp on stock internals and they can go way higher than that....if youre gonna go RB might as well go RB25

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

no I'm just backing up what I said about stock RB hp #'s. like I said, just look in there, you'll find some stockies you'll just have to search alil more and yea I mean stock for stock. RB25?? not too big a fan of it, either 20 or 26 for me. I chose RB20 because when my single slammer daily popped, it cost me a grand total of like few bucks shy of 1500 for complete swap( I had fuel pump, i/c kit and hoses/fluids/clamps laying round the shop) RB25 generaly run round 4-5 g's, might as well go all out RB26 for like 2-3 gran more depending on how you get your parts and who does your labor.

[WISH ONE]

if you don't use the right parts, specially exhaust/fuel pump, or don't set the timing/sensors right, have vac leaks or boost leaks, all that stuff makes a huge difference. yes, 215 is what they are rated at, but then again, the rb26 is rated at 287, it puts down round 320-330. and to the guy who neg repd me and said" why would you want extra weight and 2 more cylinders above your front axle" well why don't you go and flame atsuki kuroi for driftin an rb26 s13 at D1, one of the few pple in the world who se a D1 history world record ask him....... and to end this stupid numbers game, I'll post a few links of vids, links to confirm dyno numbers so all you haters can quit being sore losers.


HEY COCK******(people found the "sucker part offensive lol) i PMD YOU!!!!! AN the WHAT!!

i know otis and josh also... you can name drop all you want... doesnt make you anymore legit!

explain to me how you go from 287 to 320-330... i didnt know motorsets gained hp on while hibernating in the container on the way over from japan. if im wrong clue me in please id love to know.

Im no rb master nor do i care to be, but to my knowledge(correct me if i am misinformed) but Most Full track RB26 s13's done Correctly, Have the engine recessed into the firewall as far back as possible to help with balance, and WHO cares when your making 600whp and you are a great driver. once again i believe he asked for help with a build not a rb20 swap!


sorry for turning your thread into an argument!
best of luck with your build.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

HEY COCK! i REPPED YOU!!!!! SO WHAT!!

i know otis and josh also... you can name drop all you want... doesnt make you anymore legit!

explain to me how you go from 287 to 320-330... i didnt know motorsets gained hp on while hibernating in the container on the way over from japan. if im wrong clue me in please id love to know.

Im no rb master nor do i care to be, but to my knowledge(correct me if i am misinformed) but Most Full track RB26 s13's done Correctly, Have the engine recessed into the firewall as far back as possible to help with balance, and WHO cares when your making 600whp and you are a great driver. once again i believe he asked for help with a build not a rb20 swap!


sorry for turning your thread into an argument!
best of luck with your build.

K, lets educate the moron(you of course) who said engines "gained" any hp?? take a closer look ret*rd :cj: I said that the true hp and the "rated" hp were different. early 90's Japanese auto makers had a "gentlemen's agreement" not to go over a certain hp number so Mitsu, Toyota, and Nissan all rated their motors under 280hp I beleive was the magic numbers, but in reality, the RB26DETT, the 2JZ-GTE, and the 6G72 all made above 300hp. and yes, full track rb swaps are moved in past the firewall. Did I say I was building a full track car?? did I say I was in D1??? did I say I was a world record seting driver??? no...so STFU. those pple have 100's of thousands of dollars to spend for a true track car. I built an economic daily.......who gives two sh*ts if I have a hundred pounds more up front, I use it to run errands, take my daughter on joy rides, and have a blast. my "weight distribution" is completely irrelevant for my application. I named Otis n Josh because I knew some id*ot like you would come along and say " prove it, show some dyno sheets" and I know they have some so if you're really achin' to be proved wrong go ask them and the'y'lle give you all the information you need, that was the purpose of naming them, not to make myself more legit. and ONCE AGAIN. I ONLY attempted to help him with a less costly solution to his poblem. so don't speak for him. he'll say if my information is usefull or not.

[Rocko]

Wow.... The last thing I thought I was going to do with this thread was start some crazy RB20 vs All war.... I personaly like the RB20 but Id prefer to keep my SR, Iv already got the BOV and FMIC you speak of as well as a ton of other bolton parts and Id just prefer to have a 2L 4cylinder for this build for whatever reason

Im really just looking for anyone elses experience on Machine Shop and Assembly prices so that I can compare them with what Im seeing when talking to different shops around my area. Iv been quoted everything from 2000 for a complete eagle/cp build (about 700 going to machine shop/assembly out of that) and as much as 2050 for the machine shop/assembly....

anyway, thanks for the info guys and keep it coming.

[Jodan]

my build was like 4.5k, dont remember.

[nani]

If you do a performance rebuild and dont balance the the components it wont last long. forged pistons and rods are heavier than OEM ones. you must add weight to the counterweights of the crank to compensate, which takes time and time = Money.

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

Hey Doosh I Have A Sr20det ,and Guess What I Got Bigger Pistons Than Your Faggot Ass.lol And What Now You Going To Neg-rep Me With Your Massive E-kok Just So You Can Look Like A Bad Ass Why Doesnt Everyone Just Fukking Read The Real Reason That This Guy Posted This And Help Him Out

[sldbyuramg]

8k and no head work? you can buy a fully built longblock for 8k...

i have spent over 8 thousand in my motor build. it realy all depends on that you want and do. it can range from 2 grand to 12 grand. but i didnt do the head. so i could have gone more.

[WISH ONE]

Pmd You............................

[wylin]

to rebuild the engine right it really depends on the components you select.

The common set up out here will cost between 1000-1500 labor + parts, if u don't know the company/ owner of the various shops. Plus about the same for parts. I'd guess most people spend 3500-5000 total w/ parts$

the build would include:

1. new water pump - 40$
2. new oil pump - safety 240$
3. CP pistons - 500$
4. Overboring the block - 300-400$ (part of labor), optional sleeves -320-350$ parts
5. new eagle or equivalent rods - 300-350$
6. new head gasket -75-150$
7. new head bolts/ studs - 130-150$
6. new gasket kit - 130$
7. new timing chain - 85$
Head:
8. new upgraded Cam's - 400-500$
9. new stronger valve springs- 75-150$
10.new titanium retainers - 150$
11.new intake and exhaust valves - 300$ (set)
12.Labor to press valve springs and hone intake valves - 300$

Re assembly labor.
13. 750-1000$ generally

thats what i consider a full rebuild engine only

- will

[steve shadows]

I charge about 1000 for labor alone, but I really don't do them anymore

[johnw1415]

dude rb20s are junk, that kid needs to stop trying to prove to us that they are good, an iron 6 cyl, or an aluminum 4 with the same displacement... i wonder what would be better. rb25/26 is a way different story, the rb20 is garbage

[s14_legend]

sounds about right for a complete build.

to rebuild the engine right it really depends on the components you select.

The common set up out here will cost between 1000-1500 labor + parts, if u don't know the company/ owner of the various shops. Plus about the same for parts. I'd guess most people spend 3500-5000 total w/ parts$

the build would include:

1. new water pump - 40$
2. new oil pump - safety 240$
3. CP pistons - 500$
4. Overboring the block - 300-400$ (part of labor), optional sleeves -320-350$ parts
5. new eagle or equivalent rods - 300-350$
6. new head gasket -75-150$
7. new head bolts/ studs - 130-150$
6. new gasket kit - 130$
7. new timing chain - 85$
Head:
8. new upgraded Cam's - 400-500$
9. new stronger valve springs- 75-150$
10.new titanium retainers - 150$
11.new intake and exhaust valves - 300$ (set)
12.Labor to press valve springs and hone intake valves - 300$

Re assembly labor.
13. 750-1000$ generally

thats what i consider a full rebuild engine only

- will

[loveskylines]

like almost all of the weekend drifter and touge drivers in japan.... the cheapest and most common upgrades are head gasket and turbo....

items such as intake/FMIC, exhaust, downpipe are all a given....

i have some Power Enterprise headgaskets 87mm x 1.1mm and 87mm x 1.5mm for sale as well as a brand new turbo kit...*bolt on*:Ownedd:

the power enterprise turbo kit is based on a IHI turbo that spools 500-700 RPM faster than any other turbo on the market....PE1420 kit

oh ya and the headgasket can hold up to 1400psi of boost WITH knocking....

everyone that i know that has used their stuff has no complaints!

check out their website for pics and more specs..www.powerenterpriseusa.net

im asking 1600- for the turbo kit and 200- for the headgasket....



my $.02 on the best bang for ur buck to have some fun :naughty:

[shmiddy]

I'll destroy any RB20 with my SR on .5 bar. :rofl:

Why the Eagle rods and pistons? S15 rods and pistons are more than enough and will probably be cheaper direct from Nissan.

Do the legwork yourself. You'll gain nothing but information and know how out of it and there's plenty of information on the net to prevent you from screwing anything up as long as you follow the step by step procedures, use the right tools and don't get ahead of yourself.

If I was going as far as to strip an entire motor apart I'd do alot more than rebuild it with OEM parts but that's just me...

the s15 piston idea sounds good, but i cant find 'em... seems to me that every site i look at says that s13,14, and 15 have the same internals..... and inste???

[lflkajfj12123]

K, lets educate the moron(you of course) who said engines "gained" any hp?? take a closer look ret*rd :cj: I said that the true hp and the "rated" hp were different. early 90's Japanese auto makers had a "gentlemen's agreement" not to go over a certain hp number so Mitsu, Toyota, and Nissan all rated their motors under 280hp I beleive was the magic numbers, but in reality, the RB26DETT, the 2JZ-GTE, and the 6G72 all made above 300hp. and yes, full track rb swaps are moved in past the firewall. Did I say I was building a full track car?? did I say I was in D1??? did I say I was a world record seting driver??? no...so STFU. those pple have 100's of thousands of dollars to spend for a true track car. I built an economic daily.......who gives two sh*ts if I have a hundred pounds more up front, I use it to run errands, take my daughter on joy rides, and have a blast. my "weight distribution" is completely irrelevant for my application. I named Otis n Josh because I knew some id*ot like you would come along and say " prove it, show some dyno sheets" and I know they have some so if you're really achin' to be proved wrong go ask them and the'y'lle give you all the information you need, that was the purpose of naming them, not to make myself more legit. and ONCE AGAIN. I ONLY attempted to help him with a less costly solution to his poblem. so don't speak for him. he'll say if my information is usefull or not.

i'm going to choke this fucker

[S13Boosts]

sorry to keep off topic but wow, to the pple who neg repd me, and didn't leave a name, what a buncha pu$, back your shit up b4 you tlk. sorry again, and no, those numbers are pretty acurate unless you're an idiot and don't know how to do a swap. idk about rb25's on an s13 chasis, but yes, stock redtop SR dyno=160-170hp and stock silvertop rb20 dyno= 220-230hp, if you don't beleive me ask otis or josh over a RB-Performance, I'm pretty sure they have dyno sheets. and yes, I realize kooper is alot more knowledgeable with sr20's, I didn't realize that when he said .5 bar he didn't mean stock.

i NEG'd Repd you hello :x:

[exitspeed]

This thread is a fuckin headache. A decent topic gets turned into shit about rep.

Please stay on topic or I'll pink rep you for a couple days.

[morbid]

fuck it yo just put a d15 in dat jawnt shits like 350awhp at da crank angle sensor

But, seriously, when you are doing an engine rebuild, what things are safe for you to do yourself if you have minimal experience and what should you have a shop do for you? If I ever end up needing a rebuild I would like to do as much as I can myself without getting over my head and fucking something up.

[((sr)) kelly]

shut your fucking mouth... i have both engines in my garage RIGHT now and the rb20det is way underpowered....

my rb20 lost to a stock sr20.. i havent met a Rb20 yet that my sr20det won demolish

uhhhh......:bs: you can try buddy, with your whopping 170hp to the wheels, and my 230 to da wheels on stock boost. oh and now the good part, my motor is more reliable/cheap/waaaaay better sounds too but, just my thoughts I guess

[((sr)) kelly]

ooops.. didnt read the last page.. please dont pink rep me lol

[lflkajfj12123]

Thread Date Posted By Comment http://www.zilvia.net/f/images/reputation/reputation_balance.gif Engine Build costs? (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=2016919#post2016919) 05-06-2008 09:49 AM Oo_Skyline_oO (http://www.zilvia.net/f/member.php?u=67833) serisously......you wanna handle then come over here and try choking me.....thats what i thought so why dont you have a nice tall glass of some shut the fuck up...


haha

sweet!

[golfer17]

I was able to get really good deals on a lot of my parts and so I think the total came to around 3000 + around 700 for labor for my build. Thats with thermal coated cp pistons/eagle rods, 1mm oversized valves (inconel exhaust), valve springs and titanium retainers, arp studs and cometic headgasket (which i do not reccomend), hks cams, and all the maintenace upgraded such as new bronze valve guides, all new seals, new oil pump/front cover, etc.

[dmragecm]

sorry to keep off topic but wow, to the pple who neg repd me, and didn't leave a name, what a buncha pu$, back your shit up b4 you tlk. sorry again, and no, those numbers are pretty acurate unless you're an idiot and don't know how to do a swap. idk about rb25's on an s13 chasis, but yes, stock redtop SR dyno=160-170hp and stock silvertop rb20 dyno= 220-230hp, if you don't beleive me ask otis or josh over a RB-Performance, I'm pretty sure they have dyno sheets. and yes, I realize kooper is alot more knowledgeable with sr20's, I didn't realize that when he said .5 bar he didn't mean stock.

aaahahahaha silvertop RB hahahahahaha

Id neg rep you if I could.

the op is asking about an sr. No one cares what your opinion is about the RB. Almost everyone has consider almost every possible engine swap. He has his heart set on an sr, so thats what hes goin to do. Your here to talk about the almighty RB20 like it was gods gift to automtives. You dont even know what this guy is using his car, what he wants out of it, or what his budget is. seriously dude your knowledge is overwhelming.

OH yea and kouki kan kan or whatever your gay ass name is I have one thing to say to you wtffffffffffffffffffffffff


To stay on topic. The best advice I can give you is to research, research, research the most reputable shop in your area. Then again its really not that hard to put a motor together. Try to get some friends together that have had experience with piecing a motor together. If you dont konw anyone, Im pretty sure there are ppl that are local that could give you a hand. Just buy some beer and pizza

[((sr)) kelly]

some ass just tried to neg rep me and his comment was... DUDE my rb20det kept up with a "gt3068" sr20det... BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AAH

[WISH ONE]

thanks... for rep lol...

[spoolandslide]

sh*t man I'd rather swap in an RB20 in, I calculated 1800-2000 for complete swap, then sell your sr stuff, and get yourself a nice Fmic/bov.


yeah but getting replacement parts for that is going to be a bitch

plus your half right, might as well just get a whole new sr and sell your spare parts off of your fucked up engine

[FRpilot]

If you do a performance rebuild and dont balance the the components it wont last long. forged pistons and rods are heavier than OEM ones. you must add weight to the counterweights of the crank to compensate, which takes time and time = Money.

is this true? i never hear of ppl mentioning this in build threads. i just want to learn because I plan on learning and building motors in my garage as a hobby one day.

how would you add weight to the counter weights of a crank shaft?

[WISH ONE]

awwww thanks so much for the rep guys i love you all

[Jesses240]

Iv been trying to price out a rebuild for my SR and was wondering if anyone could give me a ballpark idea on what the costs are for machine shop and assembly work?

So far the parts for OEM Seals/Gaskets/Waterpump with ARP Head Studs and Eagle Rods/CP Pistons is around 1600, I figure closer to 2000 once I throw in an Oil pump and other odds and ends.

Im trying to get an idea of what kind of cash Im looking at for Machine shop/ Assembly cost to get all this put together if I decide to do all the legwork myself instead of letting a local shop handel it all.


I did almost exactly what your talking about

New OEM crank
all new bearings
eagle rods
CP pistons
MLS headgasket
arp studs
All new gaskets
timing chain kit
+ all machine work


= 2k for me... Although I did get Dealz on a couple things (like the crank)

[onehundredoctane]

Local (NC) shop rebuilt mine and a few friends SR's, one is currently putting down 400.3 whp in an S13, mine is built to the same specs as one of Enjuku's and theirs put down 550 whp, so I'm sure mine will put down 450 reliably. HP Engines, owned by Hollis Page in NC, I had all my parts in hand when I went to him, 3 angle, polished ports, decked head, complete reassembly, hot tank head and block, clearance valves and back in my hand for $1100, Hollis is a great guy, known him a for a while now, doesn't beat around the bush and usually easy to get ahold of.

[WISH ONE]

wow thats not bad. this place here in oc wanted to charge me 1200 for building my head if i brought him parts.

[dmragecm]

Engine Build costs? 05-08-2008 07:01 PM YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT THERES SILVERTOP 2ND GEN AND RED TOP 1ST GEN


hahahahahahahaha reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllyyyyyyyyyyyy? where do these idiots come from

[Erjay1]

Im not building my sr but I am doing new water pump, new oil pump, Cosworth 1.1mm head gasket, ARP Headstuds, BC Valve Springs and Retainer, Megan o2 housing and clean up for around $1600 including labor.

[DataXUnknown]

Lol just read every post in this thread, and these guys who are argueing I am just loling at. I wanna go on a rep spree of neg, and few pos, but I'd feel bad adding to '0o Skyline o0's red boxes.

Just a tip, when rebuilding your engine, make sure you have MORE than enough money to rebuild it. I'm sure you already know this, so I guess take it as a reminder :) It sucks being broke.

Also if you can, try doing the labor yourself, you will learn so many things that you never knew, and save some money while your at it. Just make sure you do your research if you do.

Good luck!

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

yeah but getting replacement parts for that is going to be a bitch

plus your half right, might as well just get a whole new sr and sell your spare parts off of your fucked up engine


I don't get why eveyone says that, I'm gonna actually take some time and post some company names(I won't post link cos tha'd be advertising, just google it) that carry RB parts:


1. NISSAN DEALERSHIPS, mynismo to be exact and they're in duarte, CA. I got my RB20 head gasket set there, they had it in stock!!!

2. RB-Performance

3. Drift Ready performance

4. Mckinney Motorsports

5. Panda Garage

6. NeoTech Imports

7. JDM Garage

8. FRSport

9. ZILVIA.NET FOR SALE SECTION!!!!!!

10. Watanabe

11. the "N" word that end with ico

AND THESE ARE ALLL SO-CAL PLACES WITH RB PARTS IN STOCK

and if you search popular auction sites and google, there are literaly THOUSANDS of companies online that sell RB parts and that can ship your part within a few days to a week. so that information is totaly incorect Mr. SpoolnSlide


Hopefully people realize that this IS on-topic, because like I said its just a less expensive to a costly SR build, EVEN if its not the route that the thread poster will take, this will be usefull info for everyone else.

By the way, my buddy just bout an SR longblock with Rod knock and is planing to do a complete rebuild so I'm really interested in your progress and what you found out about companies that can machine your block and head, and prices and such.

[tht_sr20]

im a start building my sr20 too..let me know how much you spend???