Ebay H4 HID kits

[Matej]

First of all, sorry for starting another HID thread, but I'm planning on switching to HID's in the near future, and the price of plug-and-play Ebay kits is really tempting, but before I buy anything I'm curious about a few things.

Do any of you have experience with the Ebay kits?
Mainly I want to know if they truly are plug-and-play, as in no splicing or any modding of the harness required, I'd really like to avoid that.

Also, since regular H4 bulbs are dual-beam, do the high beams still work even with HID?
If not I don't really mind, I'm sure the headlights will be bright enough to make up for the lack of high beams, I'm mainly just curious.

Last question for now, is there a wattage difference between the different color temperatures?
For example, would 10000K bulbs put more strain on the electrical system vs. 5000K bulbs, or do the HID boxes take care of that?
Electrical problems are no fun, and the last thing I'd want would be to end up with a melted harness again, that's why I'm wondering.

Any pictures of HID's in S13 pop-ups with bulb color/temperature specified are appreciated, but please keep the "you're going to blind people" talk to a minimum, every HID thread I've looked through is cluttered with it, I'm just trying to get answers to my questions.

Thanks ahead for any info!

[Sonic Motor]

I will answer one question. Yes, its true plug and play for most. Not all.
I have HID kits in stock. PM me for more details.

[KA-T_240]

The K value you are talking about will have no affect on the electrical system.


Some kits you will loose high beams, some have a halogen high beam, and some have a bulb that "moves" to attempt to create high beams.

The pics you are asking for really do not matter on the car. Just search 4300k, 6000k, 8000k..... HID pics and that will give you an idea of the color.

You would be better off getting some hella e-codes or thank to ifixi(i think that how it is spelled) on here and get chibie housings from him. And then get a good bulb and harness.

[FaLKoN240]

How much are you looking at spending?

[LA_phantom_240]

Say no to stupid fucking HID drop-in 'kits' in your goddamn H4 HALOGEN housings. Jesus.

Oh, and the HID 'box' is called a ballast. Much like florescent or Metal-Halide lights use.

One more thing... the whole statement about "please keep the "you're going to blind people" talk to a minimum, every HID thread I've looked through is cluttered with it, I'm just trying to get answers to my questions." Yeah fuck that. Stupidity breeds such comments. There is a reason it is cluttered with those comments... because HID housings and projectors are made for HID bulbs. Halogen housings are made for Halogen bulbs. Catch my drift? They aren't interchangeable, no matter how much your riceboy friends say otherwise. Just cause its ''mad tyte, yo" doesn't mean its a good idea...

[kornaz]

Phantom relax. Not everyone puts some shit into their cars just to be cool. I have hids in my S14, and i love it. Light output is way better. Stock light output sucks ass. It was plug n play.

[LA_phantom_240]

Phantom relax. Not everyone puts some shit into their cars just to be cool. I have hids in my S14, and i love it. Light output is way better. Stock light output sucks ass. It was plug n play.

I don't know how, but zenkis can pull it off with a quality kit... I don't recommend it, but if it works, then so be it. H4's have horrible results though. Koukis too...

[Wangan kid]

i had 4 hid kits 4rom an ebay shop HID4U all i have 2 say they are one of the best low price HID kits that work. look them up n good g/l

[kornaz]

Got ya. Mine's a Zenki. I have a cheap kit, but S14 is my weekend/fun car, and the kit does the job.

[redman]

At left momo super white 110w , at right HID 8000k Kit :


http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7391/hid1dc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5305/hid2eq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Matej]

Thanks for all the info and pics!

Now I'm trying to decide what Kelvin temperature to go with. I want them to be purple, but not so purple that I'll keep getting pulled over. Some places advertise 12000K as white/purple, but some places advertise it as deep blue, and some places say 15000K is white/purple, while others have it as either a bright pink or a very blue color. Even in various pictures those two temperatures look different from picture to picture.

What I want is the white with a hint of purple look, something like the Kouki below, I'm guessing 12000K would be my best bet, hopefully it'll be what I'm looking for.

http://www.xenon-vision.com/images/gallery/480/12000k/s14.jpg

[SuicidnS13]

Thanks for all the info and pics!

Now I'm trying to decide what Kelvin temperature to go with. I want them to be purple, but not so purple that I'll keep getting pulled over. Some places advertise 12000K as white/purple, but some places advertise it as deep blue, and some places say 15000K is white/purple, but others have it as a pink or very blue color.

What I want is the white with a hint of purple look, something like the Kouki below, I'm guessing 12000K would be my best bet.

http://www.xenon-vision.com/images/gallery/480/12000k/s14.jpg

Actually there is a company called XenonDepot.com and they carry an inexpensive line of HIDS. Its under there Extreme Hid kits. The kelvin is 6500k. Its perfectly a whitish/light purple. Here are some examples of it on my bike. Unfortunately the car ones I cant find but you can see clearly on the bike pics the colors. The road is nice and white till the edges where you get a slight purple cut off.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/SuicidnS13/f4ihidsday.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/SuicidnS13/hidf4i2.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll311/SuicidnS13/Hidf4i.jpg

[eastcoastS14]

lol dude....you have an s13 slammed on its nuts, with rims, altezzas, a straight "boso" style exhaust and a giant sticker on your windshield that says bonus, Im sure it wont be the purple headlights that screw you over....I say just keep goin all out lol

I absolutely love your car btw....dont want you to think im hatin

[Future240]

At left momo super white 110w , at right HID 8000k Kit :


http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7391/hid1dc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5305/hid2eq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

That blinding light is probably what any drivin opposite side would see.:down: All the cars i've seen with HID kits suck ass. There is a thread somewhere on here about HID kits, juss search it, it will tell you all the info you need. Convinced me not to ever buy an HID kit

[Anto]

At left momo super white 110w , at right HID 8000k Kit :


http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7391/hid1dc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5305/hid2eq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


HOLYFUCKINGSHIT

that is some of the nastiest shit i've ever seen

since you're set on a kit, you're probably not going to retro.

SO
i propose to you this:
instead of an H4 hid kit

get OEM ballasts, OEM D2R bulbs, and the h4 to d2s conversion pieces.
D2R instead of D2S will cut down on glare, and the conversion pieces have a glare shield that will eliminate it even moreso.
HOWEVER
you will still get glare.
especially depending on what headlight housings you have.
if you have the "crystal clear" ebay conversion housings, forget it. you're going to have crap output.
if you have a autopal or hella housing, the beam pattern will be a bit better.
and remember, 4300k or 5000k if you must. ALWAYS


Also, since regular H4 bulbs are dual-beam, do the high beams still work even with HID?
If not I don't really mind, I'm sure the headlights will be bright enough to make up for the lack of high beams, I'm mainly just curious.

You WILL lose high beams. The "brightness" of the HID won't matter for high beam, you need a seperate filament that's aimed up for proper high beam coverage. As far as low beams go, yes it will be brighter, but it will still cover only what's in front of you on the ground.


picture of said conversion pieces. note the d2r bulb.
http://hidconcepts.com/gallery/H4/h4_1.jpg


YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR
BUY A SHITTY KIT
GET SHITTY PATTERNS

[Matej]

That blinding light is probably what any drivin opposite side would see.:down: All the cars i've seen with HID kits suck ass. There is a thread somewhere on here about HID kits, juss search it, it will tell you all the info you need. Convinced me not to ever buy an HID kit
Well riding in a car with an HID kit convinced me to buy an HID kit.
The visibility improvement is a night and day difference (literally). And the blinding light in the pic is blinding mainly because the picture is taken looking straight at the headlight, go look straight into your halogen headlight.
I want to know the number of accidents caused by HID kits. If anything in my opinion it will improve safety, because you'll see better, and other drivers will see you better, and it'll cause people to instinctively pay more attention to the road, kind of like when you're driving in the rain, you're forced to be more careful.
It'll take a few seconds for me to drive past people and they'll most likely never see me again and the horror will be over and they can live happily ever after.
Come on, we drive tiny 240's, blinding light is as threatening as our cars get.

[Anto]

observe:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/assassin10000/hidbulbinstall1.jpg

notice the autopal housings:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/assassin10000/hidinstalled.jpg


he took it to the next level:
grabbed some bulb shields & installed them
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/assassin10000/hidshieldglareshield.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/assassin10000/hidshieldglareshield4.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/assassin10000/hidcutoff.jpg

see the somewhat defined "cutoff"?


that's as good as an h4 "kit" gets. this would probably be the best option right before a retrofit.

[Matej]

Autopal housings are what I'm planning on using. I've read about them on a few different forums and people seem to really like them for budget housings, especially the ones that are blatant Cibie knockoffs.

[LA_phantom_240]

observe:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/assassin10000/hidbulbinstall1.jpg

notice the autopal housings:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/assassin10000/hidinstalled.jpg


he took it to the next level:
grabbed some bulb shields & installed them
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/assassin10000/hidshieldglareshield.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/assassin10000/hidshieldglareshield4.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/assassin10000/hidcutoff.jpg

see the somewhat defined "cutoff"?


that's as good as an h4 "kit" gets. this would probably be the best option right before a retrofit.

No, I don't see a 'cutoff'... 'Cutoff' pics would be pics of the car shining on a wall, about 20 feet or so in front of it. Do it, show off this 'cutoff'.

[buku_points]

i run an ebay kit only cost 60 bucks with warranty. thats your best bet. unless your buying phillips or piaa hids all other no name xexon or what ever you have plug and play hid kits are the same. your just buying from a middle man which is trying to make a quick buck off you
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/bukupoints/lip.jpg

[Matej]

No, I don't see a 'cutoff'... 'Cutoff' pics would be pics of the car shining on a wall, about 20 feet or so in front of it. Do it, show off this 'cutoff'.
You can see the line going through the middle of the housing. Yeah a pic shining on a wall would show what the cutoff really looks like, but that still looks better than many headlights I've seen.


http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/bukupoints/lip.jpg
I like that, would you happen to know what color temperature you're using?

[Anto]

No, I don't see a 'cutoff'... 'Cutoff' pics would be pics of the car shining on a wall, about 20 feet or so in front of it. Do it, show off this 'cutoff'.

relax.

i'm looking at headlight cutoff.

here is a picture of an IS300 with reflector HID from the factory. look where the light cutoff is on the front of the headlight

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a19/daflipmike/IMG_0743.jpg

now compare that to the h4 adapter.


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/assassin10000/hidcutoff.jpg

yes, kits are bad. I know this.
don't be so quick to bash on them, there are only a few applications where kits look decent.
but that's far and few.

[FaLKoN240]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/FaLKoN240/Black%20Car/Night%20Shots/1207072359a.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/FaLKoN240/Black%20Car/Night%20Shots/1207072359a.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/FaLKoN240/Black%20Car/Night%20Shots/1207071731.jpg

Hella housings with Xenith Xenon 8k kit.

The color is a bluish color, I wish I had got 6k, I would rather have better visibility than some cool color.

[HyperTek]

i threw a h4 kit in my benz from ebay.. it was a nice kit i was impressed with teh quality.
http://tunerbase.com/temp/benz/becky2.JPG

It was 6k.. and it was the high/low beam style, where the blub just pops into a different position to hit the high beam reflector.. so I didnt loose high beam.. The bulbs did have a shield and cap to.
like this
http://pc-link.biz/mtr/lbhidh4b.jpg
http://pc-link.biz/mtr/HIDH4B.gif
I told my friend to get a set for his early LS400, what he got was a different style.. it was that gay hid low beam with a halogen bulb underneath it for highs... he was happy, it allowed him to flip to high beams which would make the headlights look like standard bulbs when hes around law enforcement, then flip em back, but the quality was far worse then my set.

I never ahd HID in my s13.. dunno if i would but HID in my FC.. besides the LED tail lights, i dont think i want the extra attention from law enforcement.

[whiterps13]

Theres so many people that sit here and bitch about offending traffic.
Who fucking cares? Our cars are already as obnoxous as hell.

Does anybody actually have experience with HID's in H4 housings?
I have a JRT 10,000k kit in Bosch housings and the glare isnt severe at all. As long as you adjust the housing to aim much lower than on stock bulbs, youll be fine. I modified my housings to adjust slightly lower than the 'lowest' stock position, and have yet to have one person flash their brights at me. Ive had them for over a year. It would be foolish for me to say they are dangerous.

With some of the rediculous headlights that come on stock cars and trucks these days, people on the road are generally more accepting of bright headlights. Fucking Escalades 'glare' is 10x worse than mine.

But I live in Illinois, Im sure SoCal is another story all together.

[buku_points]

You can see the line going through the middle of the housing. Yeah a pic shining on a wall would show what the cutoff really looks like, but that still looks better than many headlights I've seen.


I like that, would you happen to know what color temperature you're using?

im using 4300k with a 35watt ballast.

[babowc]

Retro fitting looks like ass, imo.
If you want cut off, go buy a s2k or TL or whatev.

S13, just get the headlights to aim a little lower.
If you're car's dumped anyways, it'll be FAR better than those fucking high SUVs with halogens that blind the fuck out of everyone else.


But.. cutoff on my s2k sure does look nice..

[Future240]

Well riding in a car with an HID kit convinced me to buy an HID kit.
The visibility improvement is a night and day difference (literally). And the blinding light in the pic is blinding mainly because the picture is taken looking straight at the headlight, go look straight into your halogen headlight.
I want to know the number of accidents caused by HID kits. If anything in my opinion it will improve safety, because you'll see better, and other drivers will see you better, and it'll cause people to instinctively pay more attention to the road, kind of like when you're driving in the rain, you're forced to be more careful.
It'll take a few seconds for me to drive past people and they'll most likely never see me again and the horror will be over and they can live happily ever after.
Come on, we drive tiny 240's, blinding light is as threatening as our cars get.

I'm know the pic is like that cuz of the way it was took, but at the same time if a car with factory HID is coming towards you, the lights dont blind you, but the people with them in crown vics, civics or impala's make you feel like you starin into a spotlight. It pisses me off, but then again i have a bad case of road rage anyway:bash: . I say if you like then DOOO ITTTT!!!!:rawk:

[fueled by hate]

Look at this ebay kit lol.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/giynmgs/240035.jpg

[kornaz]

So true about Escalades and trucks. Fuck them. I have a nice cut-off for low beams, and here's some pics of the high beams:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/kornaz/DSC02498.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/kornaz/DSC02495.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/kornaz/DSC02494.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/kornaz/DSC02497.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/kornaz/DSC02496.jpg

Headlights not mounted, and i never use high beams, so i said fuck it and got these just for fun. Only will be used for off road stuff. Will post pics of 4300K low-beams later.

[240cracker]

WHAT! green headlights! i cant even get away with a window tint in orange county

lucky..

[eastcoastS14]

so are there kits that are plug and play for zenkis? I fail horribly at anything having to do with wiring....but id like to get something for now until i upgrade to a kouki front or german glass headlights in the future

[kornaz]

People fail at reading these days... My LOW BEAMS are 4300k, WHITE. The green ones are HIGH BEAMS, for fun. And yes there are plug and play HID kits, send me a PM and i can give you a link. Ugh, gimme a break about my shit and keep the neg reppin' shit up yer ass.

[Anto]

Zenki's take H4 as low beam, but they have a seperate high beam as well, meaning before HID you get TWO high beams. Zenki's actually have a pretty nice lighting setup stock, everything that I said earlier can apply to the zenki housings as well (minus the autopal housings)

good thing about that is you can retain your high beam while getting HID low beam
put yellow high beams in, looks nice
so are there kits that are plug and play for zenkis? I fail horribly at anything having to do with wiring....but id like to get something for now until i upgrade to a kouki front or german glass headlights in the future

[Matej]

So I bought those HID's off Ebay a few days ago for about 65$ shipped, and I checked the tracking today and they're actually being shipped from China.
They just left Beijing yesterday and cleared U.S. customs this morning, hope they didn't send me the wrong bulb type or color.


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/assassin10000/hidshieldglareshield4.jpg
Just noticed those are actually the same housings I have. They're not the Cibie knockoff Autopals that are supposed to be the best, those are the euroclear ones. I was curious what the light output would be like on them, but if that guy used them then they should be pretty decent.

These are the ones that are supposed to have the best output. They're actually the same price, but I like chrome haha.
http://i18.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/86/31/69_1_b.JPG

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

i run the hi/low kit h4 from xenith xenon here on zilvia. i love my hids, but am respectful of other drivers, when i'm on a small dark road. i don't wanna blind the other drivers.

[jackjack]

holy hell 65 shipped? let us know how they turn out.

i've bought several sets from mod express here on the site. no complaints here. they rock........... so far.

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

low beam
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/pics146.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/pics145.jpg


high beam
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/pics148.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/pics147.jpg

[Matej]

What color temperature is that and which housings are you using?

[Tenchuu]

Look at this ebay kit lol.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/giynmgs/240035.jpg

this is a perfect example of what you want. note the defined hard cut off that makes a top "line" that cuts off the light output completely at a given elevation. that is what all OEM HIDs have, and what makes them street legal and you don't end up blinding people or getting pulled over by the police.

So true about Escalades and trucks. Fuck them. I have a nice cut-off for low beams, and here's some pics of the high beams:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/kornaz/DSC02498.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/kornaz/DSC02495.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/kornaz/DSC02494.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/kornaz/DSC02497.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/kornaz/DSC02496.jpg

Headlights not mounted, and i never use high beams, so i said fuck it and got these just for fun. Only will be used for off road stuff. Will post pics of 4300K low-beams later.

low beam
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/pics146.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/pics145.jpg


high beam
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/pics148.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/ale89se/pics147.jpg

I have no idea why these people even posted, the have no cut off what so ever, and are perfect examples of beam patterns that fail completely and you want to avoid a HID beam pattern like these at all costs.

the guy with the green lights is probably more of a show car, or a track car, last time i checked you cannot have green lights anywhere on your car, and you cannot have red lights forward facing on your vehicle (IE traffic laws, green reserved for traffic control, and red reserved for braking purposes)

but in the end search for other HID threads for more pics of what a proper cut off looks like and then use these two examples as how to tell if you failed and and are setting yourself up to get pulled over by the police( not to mention i had a friend that dropped in some HIDs in his zenki, and i point my rear view away they were so bright)

[MangoDorifto]

PnP kits will get the job done... But Retrofit is the ONLY way to go! I've done about 4 retrofits so far, never looked back. My S14 will be the same.

A real cut off pic to compare to the PnP pics above. Notice the sharp cut off line, reversed "Z" in the middle and purple glare around the light. Gives oncoming traffic that white to purple HID flicker when driving down the road.

[nrg]

if you want a nice color off your cutoff (as people see your headlights coming towards them) and wide viewing light source. then a retrofit is a must.

why do you think cars with projectors give off color with 4300K oem bulbs?

you gain more pros with a retrofit than a half-ass pnp kit.

about the people not caring for others on the road. maybe it's your area. but in so cal, every dumb suv owner has a drop in kit and you can't see crap when they're driving towards you. It's also bad when they're behind you and you're in a lower car.

i'm about 50ft from that wall:
http://www.phihoang.com/img/s14/DSC00447.jpg

[babowc]

I;m surprised Mike from clearcorners(?) didn't chime in.
I guess he got tired of yelling on teh internet

[Matej]

The kit just came in this morning.
The bulbs come with a halogen high beam and an HID shield included which is pretty cool.

[s14_legend]

yeah HIDs over stock any day...

[projekt_s13]

The kit just came in this morning.
The bulbs come with a halogen high beam and an HID shield included which is pretty cool.

Be sure to post some pictures up :bigok:

Which ones did you buy? Do you have a link?
How much were they?

Sorry about all the questions but im probably gonna go this route.

[upSLIDEdown]

i'm about 50ft from that wall:
http://www.phihoang.com/img/s14/DSC00447.jpg

That's fuckin' HOT. Any pics of the retro install? What projectors are you using?

[dynamicck]

plug n play kits > stock lights

funny how people care about other drivers. why just raise your car so you dont offend other drivers that have to wait for you... while u drive sideways into driveways, over speed bumps and other other place that is steep.

[Matej]

I think this is pretty legit for a 60-dollar plug-n-play kit and a 30-dollar pair of headlights.

There's no glare, I've walked around the front of the car and looked at them from different angles and I wasn't blinded. In the first picture you see that my turn signal bulb is giving off more glare than the headlights.
Too bad I won't be able to see the cutoff until next week because I'm selling my wheels today and waiting on new ones.

By the way it's kind of hard to capture with my 2001 digital camera, even on manual settings, so you can't really judge it just by pictures, though I think these two turned out alright.

http://www.tuhalb.com/personal/images/auto/hid01.jpg
http://www.tuhalb.com/personal/images/auto/hid02.jpg

[HyperTek]

Does your kit still keep high beam?

thought these pics might help..
these are raybrig housings.. i took these pics back in 2003.. halogen silverstar bulbs.
jdm reflector angle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/000_0006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/lights1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/lights2.jpg
*sorry the pics where against my white garage wall, of course its gonna pick up every lil piece of light*
http://tunerbase.com/temp/background32.jpg

they had pretty good cut off, might be good enough for a hid fit with the glare sheild on the bulbs

i think my fc got some Hella h4 housings with teh textured face.. i would love to put hid in it, would compliment my LED tails.. but not sure if i want the added bling bling attention from law enforcement

[s14_legend]

looks pretty good...bang for the buck

[Matej]

Does your kit still keep high beam?
Yeah, there's also a halogen bulb, so the high beam works normal as always.

Which ones did you buy? Do you have a link?
How much were they?
They're just some generic Ebay ones. Search for 240SX HID or H4 HID or something along those lines, there's lots of them, though from the pictures it seems that almost all of them are the same kit that comes from one factory, and they all cost about 70$ shipped.

[HyperTek]

ahh thanks for the reply, Yah i figured thats why they where like $60.. the ones that still use HID for high beam cost more.

[LA_phantom_240]

Ugh this thread is the definition of failure.

[ramman434]

Ugh this thread is the definition of failure.
True, NRG and a few others were the only ones going in the right direction with the retrofit. I'm actually using NRG's retro-fit walk-through for the Kouki off of HIDplanet.com for when I retro some S2K's into mine this summer

[LA_phantom_240]

True, NRG and a few others were the only ones going in the right direction with the retrofit. I'm actually using NRG's retro-fit walk-through for the Kouki off of HIDplanet.com for when I retro some S2K's into mine this summer

S2k's have fantastic HID lowbeams. I would look into doing a retro in my Zenki, using Spencer's clear lenses, but I'm bored with my 240 and looking at getting into something else.

[Matej]

Retrofitted projectors look retarded in pop-up headlights, and no thanks on dealing with wiring, I just want to plug and play.

[LA_phantom_240]

Retrofitted projectors look retarded in pop-up headlights, and no thanks on dealing with wiring, I just want to plug and play.

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[hotlavaflow]

I have three sets of HID's on my S13 and I have no complaints from other drivers. I've even had my brother drive my S13 while I drove his car to make sure there's no blinding situations. I have two sets for the headlights 3000k and 8000k (custom) and 3000k in the Canadian DTRL's. I would NEVER go back to halogen lights. I can actually see at night wow! Before I could hardly tell the lights were on with those BS sealed beam lights.

[nrg]

That's fuckin' HOT. Any pics of the retro install? What projectors are you using?
pics and instructions are at phihoang.com or hidplanet.com's forum.
projectors are ap2 (05+) honda s2000 with clear lense.

True, NRG and a few others were the only ones going in the right direction with the retrofit. I'm actually using NRG's retro-fit walk-through for the Kouki off of HIDplanet.com for when I retro some S2K's into mine this summer

try to find the pre 05 ap1 honda s2000 projectors. 05-06 are a hit a miss because of the lense (rumor/myth?).

if not, you can try using TSX projectors. fit as perfect as s2k, the beam isn't as wide but wide enough. tsx projectors are 100 bucks each on ebay too.
I recently help a forum member with this retrofit on his kouki headlights. I was amazed on how OEM it came out.