what does everyone think of the VIP craze?

[Impact Drift]

so what is everyone's thoughts on the new VIP stying? I actually like it, and think much more highly of it thatn trailer queens.

Here was my idea.



First off, I wanna buy a house and my future wifey has an Audi A4 that we're planning to sell for the down payment. Well, that means she is going to need a car. I tried to convince her that I could buy her a s13 or ae86 for VERY cheap and we could potentially profit 5k from selling the audi and buying a cheaper car. Well, she shit all over that idea because SHE wants a 4door.....booooooo.

So I was thinking of buying a 1st gen LS400, putting the down payment on the house, then getting baller wheels, vip body kit, build the interior with new leather then eventually adding a 2j w/ auto tranny for my speed fetish. That may not constitute a complete VIP but I'll buy whatever I feel is a luxury item.

But I'de like to know feedback from y'all.

http://www.grounddynamics.com/Merchant/UFC-10-FK-small.jpgan example of an older style VIP style but still looks gorgeous yet outdated for the VIP style.
http://www.auto-show21.com/motershow/f_autosalon2008/car/dsc_6969.jpg
http://www.auto-show21.com/motershow/f_autosalon2008/car/dsc_6971.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p158/racinstylez/VIP/643d112a43.jpg
http://re-make.org/galley/albums/userpics/10001/%E7%89%A7%E5%B1%B1%E6%A7%98.jpg

[ThatGuy]

Well, first off, I think this doesn't belong in Chat, since S and Z Chassis can't be "VIP".

Second off, "VIP" is as useless as showcars. :down:

[ByeByeSti]

2jz ftw, vip ftl... sorry thatguy couldnt have put it better

[jackjack]

i personally dont care. its your money/taste. do what you want. if you like something, do it. who cares what others think. its your car.

[dmragecm]

hahahahahhahhaha this is a joke right?


profit 5k off an s13 or ae86 hahaha.


"I could probably go with an Infinity too but nothing that old or for that price would look as nice and for another 2500 I could just drop the 1uzfe and throw in the 2j."


uhhh yeaaa how bout no. seems like your wife is the sensible one in this relationship.

[Impact Drift]

hahahahahhahhaha this is a joke right?


profit 5k off an s13 or ae86 hahaha.


"I could probably go with an Infinity too but nothing that old or for that price would look as nice and for another 2500 I could just drop the 1uzfe and throw in the 2j."


uhhh yeaaa how bout no. seems like your wife is the sensible one in this relationship.
what's so funny about selling an AUDI and buying a less expensive car? The money selling the a4 and buying another car is where the profit would come from

that's what I was trying to say. sorry if I didn't make myself clear.

also, the 2j would be for me :D I'de be driving it a lot too and my s13 is going through a complete overhaul so it's going to be down for a while and all i have is my company car for now. The 2j is actually a fairly common swap for the ls and it's relatively cheap w/ auto tranny.

[MikeisNissan]

Aw man I found this clean LS400 for 1900.00, I am really considering it.. It is one of the most reliable cars ever! Better MPG than an 07 G35!

[Impact Drift]

Aw man I found this clean LS400 for 1900.00, I am really considering it.. It is one of the most reliable cars ever! Better MPG than an 07 G35!

so what's going to happen with mikeisNISSAN? lol

[EDacIouSX]

First off, I wanna buy a house and my future wifey has an Audi A4 that we're planning to sell for the down payment. Well, that means she is going to need a car. I tried to convince her that I could buy her a s13 or ae86 for VERY cheap and we could potentially profit 5k hopefully. Well, she shit all over that idea because SHE wants a 4door.....booooooo.

So I was thinking of buying a 1st gen LS400, putting the down payment on the house, then getting baller wheels, vip body kit, then eventually adding a 2j w/ auto tranny. I know, I know......BALLIIIIIIIN lol.

I could probably go with an Infinity too but nothing that old or for that price would look as nice and for another 2500 I could just drop the 1uzfe and throw in the 2j.

But I'de like to know feedback from y'all.

you are going to sell your future wife's audi a4 to put a downpayment on a house, THEN you are going to purchase her a ls400 and fix it up? um.... how about you just keep the Audi A4? And besides, it is HER car, not yours.... You should convince her to get what she wants, not what you want.

[MikeisNissan]

I mean I still got my s14 and s13. :)

[dmragecm]

yea but then you talk about dropping motors that werent made for the particular car. plus, buying "baller" wheels and bodykits. cars are a depreciating asset and if you dont have the money to "play" with these toys, wait until you do. You dont really sound like you know what your talkin about either. The 1uz is a Toyota motor. If your downgrading, then why would u wanna drop a 2j in an infiniti, theres alot of variables involved in swapping in motors like a 2jz in an LS400 or an "infinity"

this wagon is tippin over.

[WilloW]

Instead of the baller wheels and all that, just put it toward your house. A set of "baller wheels" could be another house payment that y'all don't have to worry about.

[pirate_texxx]

the title is misleading, it says what do you think of the vip craze and then you click and there is a scenario question.... i hate these

serioulsy i like vip cars, i would not build one but i like them and respect the people that build them

[flclsteve]

there was an old thread for VIP s13's got locked for w/e reason but it looks cool i guess im to broke to invest in any of it tho

[scottleone]

if you want to entertain VIP car thoughts this is your website, vipstylcars.com honestly though if you're talking about engine swaps and baller wheels you have a lot to learn about VIP tuning.

[Impact Drift]

yea but then you talk about dropping motors that werent made for the particular car. plus, buying "baller" wheels and bodykits. cars are a depreciating asset and if you dont have the money to "play" with these toys, wait until you do. You dont really sound like you know what your talkin about either. The 1uz is a Toyota motor. If your downgrading, then why would u wanna drop a 2j in an infiniti, theres alot of variables involved in swapping in motors like a 2jz in an LS400 or an "infinity"

this wagon is tippin over.
I don't understand what you're talking about

Toyota made: LS400, 2jzgte, and 1uzfe

Infinity did not make any of those. I only stated that it was too expensive to buy a VIP Infinity because the only Infinity body style that I like is 98+.

You sound like one of those kind of guys that likes to argue over the intraweb. Plus, I honestly don't care what anyone has to say about my knowledge because, even though I'm not a mechanic for a living, I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about and don't pretend to know about something I don't know about.

[Impact Drift]

if you want to entertain VIP car thoughts this is your website, vipstylcars.com honestly though if you're talking about engine swaps and baller wheels you have a lot to learn about VIP tuning.

yes, yes I do. The problem with that though is I'm looking at VIP on a budget, and an older car to boot. I want similar style and performance from a 91 that 2008 Mercedes are enjoying.

[Impact Drift]

you are going to sell your future wife's audi a4 to put a downpayment on a house, THEN you are going to purchase her a ls400 and fix it up? um.... how about you just keep the Audi A4? And besides, it is HER car, not yours.... You should convince her to get what she wants, not what you want.

how about no! lol. She likes her Audi and an old coworker of hers had that LS and she also loved the LS. She's completely open to buying the LS because it means that we could qualify to buy a house with the profit! She seen some of the body kits and she honestly loved them. Plus, her Audi already is kitted up by LLTek so she's into the scene a little.

[pirate_texxx]

if you want to entertain VIP car thoughts this is your website, vipstylcars.com honestly though if you're talking about engine swaps and baller wheels you have a lot to learn about VIP tuning.




this guy is right, they have older cars on there too, you havent been there im guessing

[Impact Drift]

this guy is right, they have older cars on there too, you havent been there im guessing

I'm going on there now. I'm just don't surf the intraweb much. I just don't believe in a proper formula for building a car. Plus, I've really only been exposed to muscle cars and more recently import cars (starting around 97). I've seen some on the mags and they just look nice and though it would be nice for my gf to drive. As for the motor and rims thing, that's probably the car enthusiast in me. <grunts like Tim Taylor>

[projectRDM]

I have a 92 LS400 as my daily driver. All the bodykits in Japan save for a few look like shit. The nice ones cost as much as the car and have to be imported. The stuff readily available here is all crap , fits like shit, and looks like fuck.

The 2JZ swap is feasible, but there's still a ton of things to fab up. Coilovers are virtually non existant, exhaust systems range up to three and all run over $1000 each. Some upgraded brakes from other Toyota models fit with work. The JDM only parts are rare and hard to come by. The aftermarket support in is general is very, very low. Not until the 95-97 models did parts become more accessible, but even then there's not a lot.

But the real question is this, do you really want to buy a 17 year old car and spend four times the money invested in it on just cosmetic shit, just to look 'VIP', then still drop another $5-6k to make it fast? For the money you're way better off buying a first gen Altima, it's cheaper, more economical, and there's still a huge aftermarket for it. Drop in a Bluebird SR and you're done for less than $5k total. Unless you're buying an LS just to drive, you're going to lose your ass quick.
You should also realize that you need to set aside a good $1000 just to fix the common wear items you'll find after buying it, like the blacked out A/C display, blown speakers, shorted tail lights, cracked seats, whistling sunroof, leaking steering rack and pump, clogged radiator that the previous owner poured the wrong type of coolant into, blown ball joints and tie rod ends, broken door mouldings, etc, etc.

At least with a 240 the repair and upgrade parts are readily available. A lot of Lexus stuff is dealer only, or it's shit if you buy it elsewhere.

[Phlip]

^^^ Coming from a man whose LS I LOVE, but have fucked up the front passenger floormat in all 3 times I have been in the car.
Sorry, Russ.

[yokotas13]

yes, yes I do. The problem with that though is I'm looking at VIP on a budget, and an older car to boot. I want similar style and performance from a 91 that 2008 Mercedes are enjoying.

Bam
thread lock

your what is wront iwth VIP in the United states

hop of hte bandwagon
and go buy an escort, youw ill get laughed at just as much with either vehicle the way your going

[yokotas13]

I have a 92 LS400 as my daily driver. All the bodykits in Japan save for a few look like shit. The nice ones cost as much as the car and have to be imported. The stuff readily available here is all crap , fits like shit, and looks like fuck.

The 2JZ swap is feasible, but there's still a ton of things to fab up. Coilovers are virtually non existant, exhaust systems range up to three and all run over $1000 each.
lol
coilovers are everywhere
just gotta know where to look :)

[Impact Drift]

I have a 92 LS400 as my daily driver. All the bodykits in Japan save for a few look like shit. The nice ones cost as much as the car and have to be imported. The stuff readily available here is all crap , fits like shit, and looks like fuck.

The 2JZ swap is feasible, but there's still a ton of things to fab up. Coilovers are virtually non existant, exhaust systems range up to three and all run over $1000 each. Some upgraded brakes from other Toyota models fit with work. The JDM only parts are rare and hard to come by. The aftermarket support in is general is very, very low. Not until the 95-97 models did parts become more accessible, but even then there's not a lot.

But the real question is this, do you really want to buy a 17 year old car and spend four times the money invested in it on just cosmetic shit, just to look 'VIP', then still drop another $5-6k to make it fast? For the money you're way better off buying a first gen Altima, it's cheaper, more economical, and there's still a huge aftermarket for it. Drop in a Bluebird SR and you're done for less than $5k total. Unless you're buying an LS just to drive, you're going to lose your ass quick.
You should also realize that you need to set aside a good $1000 just to fix the common wear items you'll find after buying it, like the blacked out A/C display, blown speakers, shorted tail lights, cracked seats, whistling sunroof, leaking steering rack and pump, clogged radiator that the previous owner poured the wrong type of coolant into, blown ball joints and tie rod ends, broken door mouldings, etc, etc.

At least with a 240 the repair and upgrade parts are readily available. A lot of Lexus stuff is dealer only, or it's shit if you buy it elsewhere.
great post. Well, I've seen some really nice ls400's for around 3500 w/ no cracks on the seats or stains on the carpets. I've also seen some leather replacement on the intraweb for around 5 bills (which is kinda expensive) but I also have sheepskin seat covers in the audi which are in really good condition right now so those could go in the lexus.

There's a company in Canada that makes a replacement AC Display for the LS. I knew about that prob and found the company.

The rad, steering column, and sunroof probs I was not aware about but is expected on most used cars almost 20 years old. If they're common problems then someone out there probably already knows the fix so I could do more research.

JIC makes coilovers for the LS400 but run around 1800. That's a bit steep so I was just thinking about going with the suspension controller that they sell for the air ride. It runs around 7bills but from what I've heard is well worth it and makes for a much more comfy drive.

It's a bit of an investment but this will probably become a drawn out project that will eventually take about 2 years to complete. We just need the few grand now so we could qualify for the load and after we buy the house we'll start thinking about the body kit/rims/motor/whatever. Maybe she'll like it perfectly well in stock form, who knows. It certainly is big enough for her though.

[yokotas13]

great post. Well, I've seen some really nice ls400's for around 3500 w/ no cracks on the seats or stains on the carpets. I've also seen some leather replacement on the intraweb for around 5 bills


wow
i paid 1000 or so for my garon interior. and you say 500 is too much?

seriously dude, VIp isnt your thing
my TABLE alone has -
250 for table
130 for light kit
80 for coasters
80 for trim rings

and Thats JUST the table, not countin all the other garson items

my hood ornament is 180.00

PS i can get Coilovers for under 1300 shipped for LS from a few places

[SlideWell]

you make no sense like the fool that decided to put 20's on this S14...
VIP is not for you.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a196/PearlWhiteS14/IntecS14.gif

[Phlip]

Grant, you can play the "exception to the rule" card from here until the fucking cows come home... The fact remains that the "know who" in this game far outweighs "know how," so PLEASE stop trying to defend people who are paying for shit while living in a country where the exchange rate is (increasingly useless) 1 = 1, compared to the 1 = 0.009757 you happen to enjoy.
VIP is inconvenient and harder to attain where we happen to live.

[Impact Drift]

Bam
thread lock

your what is wront iwth VIP in the United states

hop of hte bandwagon
and go buy an escort, youw ill get laughed at just as much with either vehicle the way your going
I'm on a budget but it doesn't mean I'll do it wrong. I'll do my research before anything. Plus, I'll do a lot of the job myself to save cash. If I can't afford something I'll just leave it stock, not fuck it up.

Here's my s13. I did it on a fairly tight budget also but did everything right. Keep in mind it's not finished, I just want to show you that it won't get fucked up:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Random5595/DSC03836.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Random5595/painted.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Random5595/painted2.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/Random5595/painted1.jpg

[Impact Drift]

wow
i paid 1000 or so for my garon interior. and you say 500 is too much?

seriously dude, VIp isnt your thing
my TABLE alone has -
250 for table
130 for light kit
80 for coasters
80 for trim rings

and Thats JUST the table, not countin all the other garson items

my hood ornament is 180.00

PS i can get Coilovers for under 1300 shipped for LS from a few places
I have no idea what you're talking about when you say garson. Pardon my ignorance. It's not that I'm broke, I'll pay, I make good money, I'll just take a deal when it presents itself.

[SlideWell]

I have no idea what you're talking about when you say garson. Pardon my ignorance. It's not that I'm broke, I'll pay, I make good money, I'll just take a deal when it presents itself.

http://www.garson.co.jp/

[Impact Drift]

http://www.garson.co.jp/
damn, bling on EVERYTHING!!! beautiful though.

[dmragecm]

I dont think you know what your talking about. You said " I could just drop the 1uzfe and throw in the 2j." which makes it sound like you think the 1uz came in an infiniti. Im not arguing, I'm simply responding to what I see. Do u even know what involved in putting a 2j in a LS400, let alone putting it in an infiniti? Im assuming your going to pay a shop to do it, its not exactly cheap. How on earth can you be on a budget with a build like that? Thanks for the info on Toyota, really I didnt know that :rolleyes:

"I only stated that it was too expensive to buy a VIP Infinity because the only Infinity body style that I like is 98+."

I have no idea what that even means.

BTW, its INFINITI not INFINITY


I don't understand what you're talking about

Toyota made: LS400, 2jzgte, and 1uzfe

Infinity did not make any of those. I only stated that it was too expensive to buy a VIP Infinity because the only Infinity body style that I like is 98+.

You sound like one of those kind of guys that likes to argue over the intraweb. Plus, I honestly don't care what anyone has to say about my knowledge because, even though I'm not a mechanic for a living, I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about and don't pretend to know about something I don't know about.

[Impact Drift]

I dont think you know what your talking about. You said " I could just drop the 1uzfe and throw in the 2j." which makes it sound like you think the 1uz came in an infiniti. Im not arguing, I'm simply responding to what I see. Do u even know what involved in putting a 2j in a LS400, let alone putting it in an infiniti? Im assuming your going to pay a shop to do it, its not exactly cheap. How on earth can you be on a budget with a build like that? Thanks for the info on Toyota, really I didnt know that :rolleyes:

"I only stated that it was too expensive to buy a VIP Infinity because the only Infinity body style that I like is 98+."

I have no idea what that even means.

BTW, its INFINITI not INFINITY
spell check, gotta love it.

I probably didn't get myself through clear enough. I don't want to drop a 2j into a infinity and I know the 1uz came out of the ls400. I was TRYING to say that I didn't want to buy a expensive car off the bat because of the down payment so the newer Infiniti was out of the question due to it's price. The money that is profited from the trade from the audi to the ls is going toward the house. That's why I was looking at the ls.

I swapped the sr into my s13 but as far as modern swaps that's pretty much it (swapped a couple 350's and 396's into camaro's as a teen). I'm sure I'm going to get help from a couple of my buddies and from local shops but it shouldn't cost TOO much considering I have a lot of tools I need in my garage, including an eagle lift at my neighbors.

I think we both got mixed up on what we were trying to say. Sorry if my typing skills are shitty though. Peace?

[Impact Drift]

http://www.garson.co.jp/

I honestly think that the HARDCORE VIP, like the ones here, is way out of my budget but there's nothing wrong with the wood trim, vip rims, wind deflectors, etc for an everday driver. Do I REALLY need diamonds on my steering wheel or shift knob? probably not. I'll add as much luxury items as my budget could afford.

[dmragecm]

Its cool yo. In all honesty, save your money. You look like you have a cool project car which is already a money pit. Sell the Audi, get wifey a cheap beater like a civic. After all, shes only going to be using the car to get around from place to place, right?. Use the money left over to replace any parts the civic may need and for more importantly the house. A home is a great investment, nourish it.

[Impact Drift]

Its cool yo. In all honesty, save your money. You look like you have a cool project car which is already a money pit. Sell the Audi, get wifey a cheap beater like a civic. After all, shes only going to be using the car to get around from place to place, right?. Use the money left over to replace any parts the civic may need and for more importantly the house. A home is a great investment, nourish it.

true. She's probably the biggest money pit out of them all though. lol. I think a friend of mine is selling his 96 civic. She was totally against selling her audi and getting a HONDA but I'll have her drive it and see if she likes it. She bought the Audi with her money though, so it might be a hard sell. We've talked about it before and I think the only reason she liked the ls is because she drove it. Another car that she wants is a Chrystler 300, which her mom drives. The bitch just has expensive taste. sheesh. ha!




PS: Babe if you ever read this, I was just kidding and I love you. ;)

[blasting_speed]

Damn, i was dragged in here thinking i was going to see some good pictures of VIP style cars. Just another misleading title. How disappointing.:fawk2:

[Impact Drift]

Damn, i was dragged in here thinking i was going to see some good pictures of VIP style cars. Just another misleading title. How disappointing.:fawk2:

what? you mean you don't like the s14 on dubby dubs?

[Dorifto89]

I don't think about it too much.

[eastcoastS14]

lol at this thread....

first off "VIP on a budget" is an oxymoron....the whole VIP style is based on extreme luxury and overall going over the top....if you think that slapping rims on a beat ass LS and adding some seat covers and new wood grain or something gay will somehow be more luxury than an audi then you are seriously mistaken

secondly, I seriously doubt the fact that your wife will appreciate a car with aero that is scraping the ground that is if you are seriously going for the VIP look you speak of. Yokotas13's car is on bags and he's torn his bumper, exhaust and sideskirts off before....and while your wife may be the exception to the rule I dont think most women who are not car enthusiasts will go for having to change their route to and from work to avoid potholes or want to deal with worrying about ripping their front bumper off in front of people while trying to pull into a driveway or get over a speedbump

not to mention the fact that your are preparing to buy a house and getting ready to sell an asset of yours with some decent value, that could potentially help you with a loan, buy an asset of a lesser value and then dump money into it even though it will only continue to depreciate in value no matter how well it is modified......seriously man, go take a financial accounting class at a community college or something

[Impact Drift]

lol at this thread....

first off "VIP on a budget" is an oxymoron....the whole VIP style is based on extreme luxury and overall going over the top....if you think that slapping rims on a beat ass LS and adding some seat covers and new wood grain or something gay will somehow be more luxury than an audi then you are seriously mistaken

secondly, I seriously doubt the fact that your wife will appreciate a car with aero that is scraping the ground that is if you are seriously going for the VIP look you speak of. Yokotas13's car is on bags and he's torn his bumper, exhaust and sideskirts off before....and while your wife may be the exception to the rule I dont think most women who are not car enthusiasts will go for having to change their route to and from work to avoid potholes or want to deal with worrying about ripping their front bumper off in front of people while trying to pull into a driveway or get over a speedbump

not to mention the fact that your are preparing to buy a house and getting ready to sell an asset of yours with some decent value, that could potentially help you with a loan, buy an asset of a lesser value and then dump money into it even though it will only continue to depreciate in value no matter how well it is modified......seriously man, go take a financial accounting class at a community college or something

I see your point and what you're saying. I honestly had NO IDEA of how hardcore the VIP thing is when it comes to money dumping into a car. I looked up some VIP body kits and they were like 11grand! holy crap! Junction Products is beautiful but expensive. I'm still thinking of getting her a VIP car like an 02 Q45 but subtly VIP'ing it out, just financing the car. Hell, we may hold off on the house and just keep the Audi. We talked about it before and it sounded like a pretty good idea but from what I found out today, it's not the work done, it's the parts that costs the money and it's just been engraved in my head since I was a kid that a small budget could go a LONG way when it comes to a car. Not in this field though.

It's not that I can't afford it (I'm almost making 6 figures) it's just I don't want to waste it. I've squandered away a ton of my money on some stupid shit I got into and now I'm just getting back on my feet so I don't think a car that would almost require a TON of cash (even if it's a 91) would be wise for both of us.

[Impact Drift]

Although I think the cars are uber cool! ;)

[pirate_texxx]

i mean this in the nicest way possible....walk away
this thread is done, there is no need to drag out this flogging

[Impact Drift]

i mean this in the nicest way possible....walk away
this thread is done, there is no need to drag out this flogging
lol. I don't mind. I was bringing up my idea and people were trying to talk me out of it because of money issues, some may have been rude but I seen their point, especially since I really knew nothing about the vip style anyways. I do, although, think there deserves to be a VIP thread on this website because it's big enough to draw some attention, just not this thread. I really just think that people smelled a noob and searched for blood at the beginning. It slowed down a lot once the guy with the vip came on.

Hi, my name is ID and I am a VIP noob.

Now lets let this thread die....although I would like to see a "VIP appreciation" thread.

[eastcoastS14]

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=155154&highlight=vip

[Impact Drift]

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=155154&highlight=vip

well that's for s13's and s14's. cars like the celcior and president kinda get overlooked on that thread. oh well...

[eastcoastS14]

yeah i think the main reason their isnt a lot of info on it here is the "VIP' style isnt huge with the S and Z crowd...check out http://www.vipstylecars.com/modules.php?name=Jig instead

[codyace]

For the money you're way better off buying a first gen Altima, it's cheaper, more economical, and there's still a huge aftermarket for it. Drop in a Bluebird SR and you're done for less than $5k total.

Not to change topics or be totally picky, but knowing that chassis (unfortunatly more than I really want too), it isn't for the faint at heart, or the weekend warrior. Getting an SR into a U13 is going to take quite a bit of creativity and time....which is why I turboed my KA hehe.

To play with your example, your best bet would be to get a B13 Sentra, and just boost that ;)

At least with a 240 the repair and upgrade parts are readily available. A lot of Lexus stuff is dealer only, or it's shit if you buy it elsewhere.

I've heard this countless times before with my Lexus buddies...what a PITA that has got to be.

[adrians_s13]

too much talking here...

I saw the thread title and clicked in hopes to see some dope pics...

damn :-/

[yokotas13]

Grant, you can play the "exception to the rule" card from here until the fucking cows come home... The fact remains that the "know who" in this game far outweighs "know how," so PLEASE stop trying to defend people who are paying for shit while living in a country where the exchange rate is (increasingly useless) 1 = 1, compared to the 1 = 0.009757 you happen to enjoy.
VIP is inconvenient and harder to attain where we happen to live.
Ahhhhh
but this my good friend is where he who does not know should not talk

Garson, price in japan, is the same as the us when buying through vendors such as luxury Bippu style and a few others

Not even counting what i can sell it at, i dont even sell the normal pieces becuase everyone else can beat my price on everything but interior recoverings.

So that being said
he can build a Q45/LS400/F50 for the same price, if not chepaer with the dwindling exchange rate in teh US through vendors.
In addition, with the increasingly cheap wheel offerings from companies liek work, ame, weds (to an extent) it gets even EASIER to hop on the VIP bandwagon for the US.

So philip. now that the ONLY thing that is keeping you from going VIP is the aero kits. Version select ring a bell? They are making knockoff kits for Q45s now. granted, im not a fan of knockoffs , but due to the SHEER PRICE of a kit from japan for you guys, its stupid not to. As long as your not faking the funk on aero, its cool

so, care to readress your assumptions?

[S13Leprechaun]

i dont get the whole, "VIP drifting" thing... like s13's, s14's, and s15's, (of course you CAN "vip" them out), but when i think of drifting, i think of more of a beat up looking car, 2-3-maybe 4 tone or more... haha... i dont think usually of a perfect paintjob with 19's, and nice looking components... it think of, RAW! thats the first word that comes to mind is RAW.. so in conclusion, it makes 0 sense to me.

[FaLKoN240]

Well, I think the CRAZE ended a while ago like... 5 months ago?

At least that's when I stopped giving a shit about it.

VIP can't be done on a budget, the whole thing about doing VIP is showing off how much extra income you have and spending it ridiculously on a car that isn't worth that much.

Honestly, I think having a nice house with a baller interior would make your wifey happier, not to mention houses gain value.

Put your money somewhere where it won't deteriorate, and then play with a car that doesn't have a function other than a street roller later.

[!Zar!]

Blahblahblah~ Didn't read any of this thread.

OP. Sounds like you're a little bitch who already gave his balls to his, "wifey"

Make 5k off of an 86? HAHAHA.

You are too broke to afford keeping the audi gay4, then how are you going to buy a ucf chassis and mod it? And a 91? Wtf that shit is old.

VIP and brokeass in the same paragraph is stupid and people like you are why the vip scene in the states is looking like a shit hole.

It takes more than a lowered car with rims to be vip.

Do you have any idea how much aero is? Shit costs twice the amount of the car you want is worth.

Baller rims? hahaha. Can't afford that shit either. Let alone tires for it and getting them to fit.

You better go suck you're, "future wifey's" dick and call it a day.

Church.

[yokotas13]

preach on brotha!

[fliprayzin240sx]

VIP? Locksmice Gerade Rims 19x9/10 +19/20. Muffuckers $900-1k per rim...
http://www.upgarage.com/upgarage/gazou/0803/0803013900301/0803013900301s0.jpg

For you guys who dont know...Locksmice is Kenstyle. Care to see how much Garson or Junction Produce are?

[yokotas13]

you lie

locksmice isnt that expensive
however, garson and JP wheels are

[TheRonTom31]

VIP is not for people who have any concept of what money is. If you have to watch what you spend and clean your own house find another trend to follow.

[Impact Drift]

Blahblahblah~ Didn't read any of this thread.

OP. Sounds like you're a little bitch who already gave his balls to his, "wifey"

Make 5k off of an 86? HAHAHA.

You are too broke to afford keeping the audi gay4, then how are you going to buy a ucf chassis and mod it? And a 91? Wtf that shit is old.

VIP and brokeass in the same paragraph is stupid and people like you are why the vip scene in the states is looking like a shit hole.

It takes more than a lowered car with rims to be vip.

Do you have any idea how much aero is? Shit costs twice the amount of the car you want is worth.

Baller rims? hahaha. Can't afford that shit either. Let alone tires for it and getting them to fit.

You better go suck you're, "future wifey's" dick and call it a day.

Church.

lol. you sound like a total ass. You know everything you just said has already been corrected?
Your total diss is that I can't make 5k off an 86 and that I'm broke? Well, my friend, I am most certainly NOT broke and never said to profit off of an 86, just to sell the audi and buy a cheaper car and KEEP the profit. Plus, exactly what yokotas just said is what everyone is kinda bashing me about when he said they make knockoff kits.
So, basically, my main point is that if you don't read it then don't come in here and post like you're reinventing the wheel. :mrmeph:

[Impact Drift]

I think a LOT of people are getting confused when I say I'm on a budget. Everything is on a budget, it's just how high. Now, I do make a very good living so I could afford a lot of shit but I'm not going to get camel skin carpet or diamond Lexus sign or anything. I mean, what constitutes a drifter? So what constitutes a VIP? There can't be a true formula how to build a VIP so I could buy anything that I!!!!!!! consider being a luxury item and go from there. If I don't like the garnon table then I won't buy it (i think it IS pretty cool though), plain and simple. Plus, exactly what yokota just said about the whole knockoff kits thing; that could be a possibility to get that and something else to keep someone on budget.

[muddafakka]

So what constitutes a VIP? There can't be a true formula how to build a VIP so I could buy anything that I!!!!!!! consider being a luxury item and go from there.

An interesting article on what VIP is. (I hope by now you realize you say VIP as if it were a word and not an acronym...just an FYI)
http://www.vipstylecars.com/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=1

It's already been said in this thread but I'll say it again. One cannot stress enough that how VIP/Bippu and even EXE isn't for cheap people or those who show concern about their spending habits. Junction Produce, Garson, etc. all cost a pretty penny so you either go all out or you don't. Gotta get your money and mind right to tackle such a project. Baller on a budget doesn't work. Get it done right the first time.

And back to the thread title, "What does everyone think of the VIP craze?"
While I'm a van of VIP cars, I think it's whatever (the craze that is). I don't lose any sleep over it. You'll have the knowledgeable few who knows what the fuck they're doing and then you have the majority of dumbasses who think their Camry or Accord is a VIP platform. It's a fad, it'll come and it'll go in due time.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/rr_s13/30011206872005.jpg

[TheRonTom31]

An interesting article on what VIP is. (I hope by now you realize you say VIP as if it were a word and not an acronym...just an FYI)
http://www.vipstylecars.com/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=1

It's already been said in this thread but I'll say it again. One cannot stress enough that how VIP/Bippu and even EXE isn't for cheap people or those who show concern about their spending habits. Junction Produce, Garson, etc. all cost a pretty penny so you either go all out or you don't. Gotta get your money and mind right to tackle such a project. Baller on a budget doesn't work. Get it done right the first time.

And back to the thread title, "What does everyone think of the VIP craze?"
While I'm a van of VIP cars, I think it's whatever (the craze that is). I don't lose any sleep over it. You'll have the knowledgeable few who knows what the fuck they're doing and then you have the majority of dumbasses who think their Camry or Accord is a VIP platform. It's a fad, it'll come and it'll go in due time.

One of my favorite VIP cars


I'm in agreement. There is an exact formula on how to make VIP cars. People who think my Lexus can be VIP i quickly correct cause for the true die hard VIP guys it can't. THere are rules and if you want a VIP car not a VIP styled car you have to stick to them to get the respect from people of that trend/click

[Impact Drift]

I'm in agreement. There is an exact formula on how to make VIP cars. People who think my Lexus can be VIP i quickly correct cause for the true die hard VIP guys it can't. THere are rules and if you want a VIP car not a VIP styled car you have to stick to them to get the respect from people of that trend/click

I seen that Yokota had a GTVIP Wangan car. I know he probably came up with the GTVIP but that's more of the style I was looking at. If there IS an exact formula, then fuck VIP because that means that all the individualism has been removed from the scene. I know it may not be "VIP" but dropping in a 2j into a ls sounds like a fun car to me. Why couldn't one have a fun and luxury car? Isn't that what car modding is all about.....that and chicks. lol.

[Yuri]

I don't see why you would want to waste your time on this for so many reasons.

As stated before, VIP is just an outlet to show how much disposable income you supposedly have by blowing it on car that is good for nothing but hardparking, when you could be blowing it on awesome stuff, like travel, houses, racing submarines designed to swim like dolphins, or dating beautiful women in other countries whose names you won't remember when you wake up in the morning.

Also VIP can only be based on a very slim selection of chassis, if your car is not one of them, you can't really be vip.

As a result, most american vip enthusiasts tend to be elitist, and always dress up when driving their vip style cars on the way home to their crappy 1 bedroom apt in a shady neighborhood which they live in because they blow all their money on fusa and puddle lights.

Meanwhile they laugh at all the poor saps who think they can roll hard with a clapped out '91-92 LS400 on used 18" Rays Victrix.

VIP in the US as a lifestyle is a joke compared to Japan, because in the US, no one who's actually affluent drives a modified japanese sedan, if you've noticed, all the well done vip cars in the US are owned by either shops, of guys who've invested their life savings in their car; while the real ballers drive stock S-classes and Toyota Priuses (Prii?).
Hence, VIP is a bunch of guys trying to show off how wealthy they are when they are actually broke from putting everything into their car. Poserfest.

Plus VIP is the most unoriginal style out there.
Everything is always done the same way, instead of creativity, you have a freaking checklist.

Whereas with most other (dare I say it) "scenes" you can tell a car apart from another, and the good cars stand out and be memorable.
Whereas with vip, it's like "Did you see the JP kitted LS400 slammed over 20" Garsons?" it would be like "which one?"


When I first saw vip style a few years ago, I loved it.
However, I hate what it has become in the US.
Here it is an elitist group of lemmings with maybe 5 people who actually set trends and show originality, like this guy named Poyet who built an amazing GS300 long before it was trendy, including modifying and fabricating his own aero.

[BobbyDigi]

you lie

locksmice isnt that expensive
however, garson and JP wheels are

Note, that everything is getting cheaper...

Fabulous wheels used to be avout 3700.00 a set for some 18's in decent sizes. Now you pay around 3400.00

I got my expands from some dude that lived in oki, they were kinda beat though...

I bought my profounds used from my boy Kevin, yakota, i believe that you may know him. He won an auction for me on yahoo japan...

either way... they are all quite pricey, i don't have the bankroll to buy them new... even if the prices are coming down

The shit is all brand/status too... a set of 3 piece wheels with a forged center and a spun barrel are all near the same caliber as far as construction is concerned. Why are Works cheaper than Garson?... because they are trying to appeal to slightly difference audiences.

I don't buy Fabulous wheels because they are light, i buy them because they are aesthetically pleasing and have a spun AL barrel (road safety). I have the power to make them work, so really, fuck it all.

[Impact Drift]

Note, that everything is getting cheaper...

Fabulous wheels used to be avout 3700.00 a set for some 18's in decent sizes. Now you pay around 3400.00

I got my expands from some dude that lived in oki, they were kinda beat though...

I bought my profounds used from my boy Kevin, yakota, i believe that you may know him. He won an auction for me on yahoo japan...

either way... they are all quite pricey, i don't have the bankroll to buy them new... even if the prices are coming down

The shit is all brand/status too... a set of 3 piece wheels with a forged center and a spun barrel are all near the same caliber as far as construction is concerned. Why are Works cheaper than Garson?... because they are trying to appeal to slightly difference audiences.

I don't buy Fabulous wheels because they are light, i buy them because they are aesthetically pleasing and have a spun AL barrel (road safety). I have the power to make them work, so really, fuck it all.

you're right. I bought my Vs-xx a year ago for 3900 plus tires, and now I see them going for around 3k w/o tires. End of page 1 are pics.

[!Zar!]

I lol at this thread the same way I lol at people trying to "drift" on other forums.

Imo this thread is as pointless as the OP's concept of life.

[Pank]

Everybody knows its all about vans anyway
http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/757/757914/2007-tokyo-auto-salon-part-5-20070123052637331.jpg

[BustedS13]

i took on a lot of red squares last year when i said that VIP styling is for fucking faggots. it's hoodrat styling for the white and yellow masses. FUCKING GAY.

fun fact: VIP stands for You're A Douchebag

[lflkajfj12123]

new VIP stying?

new? please brotha there is nothing new about VIP you're just hella late like every other chump in the states

if you don't have money to buy the LS and the Audi then you could NEVER be close to doing VIP

[B Love]

Its expensive and if you have the money go for it. I like vip cars but its def not for me id rather spend money on other stuff. But to each his own

[TheRonTom31]

I am on a great number of forums and these VIP threads are start, follow and end the same exact way.

THe funniest ones are the "Can m honda be VIP?" ones:keke:

[BobbyDigi]

I am on a great number of forums and these VIP threads are start, follow and end the same exact way.

THe funniest ones are the "Can m honda be VIP?" ones:keke:

QFFT

asdfasdfasdf

[yokotas13]

you're right. I bought my Vs-xx a year ago for 3900 plus tires, and now I see them going for around 3k w/o tires. End of page 1 are pics.
and i sell them for 2500 lol


regardless
this thread is full of fail.