Anyone read the new SCC?

[Evil S14]

my friend wrote this, but this sums up my feelings
I just read the article in SCC on Mahmood's 240SX and I have some observations to make. This guy is a supreme idiot and here are some reasons why:

1. "At first, Mahmood thought he had done right (speaking about his Mustang GT). The 5.0 emblems on the fender looked kinda cool, the Mustang guys welcomed him with open arms, and he beat a stock Civic EX automatic the first night."

--Wow...he beat a stock Civic EX automatic with a Mustang GT. He should be in Formula 1.--

2. "I saw a 240 keeping up with a Supra, and had to find out what it was."

--Well, I think you found out incorrectly there, bud. Or maybe it was a Supra with a Corrola 4-cyl. swap.--

3. "This was a man with a plan. He had already picked out a body kit, rear wing, paint, seats, and wheels."

--This guy obviously has a need for speed. No wimpy front wheel drive cars for him. Only pretty and slow RWD power goes around here. Great priorities there, Speed Racer.--

4. "From one angle, the 240SX is purple, from another angle, it's gold, then it's green. We're told the paint cost $350 per quart."

--I don't think I need to say anything about this.--

5. "In the go-fast department, a GReddy header, an A'PEXi N1 dual cat-back exhaust, and an AEM intake were added."

--Nevermind my previous comments, this guy knows how to tune an engine for optimal performance. He must have upped the puny stock 155 hp to at least 155.9.--

6. "The 240 can now thump with the best of them (referring to the neato stereo system)."

--That extra .9 hp is now negated due to extra weight. In fact, it has now been relatively lowered to 145 hp.--

7. "He's thinking S15 front-end swap and a last-generation 300ZX twin turbo motor swap with custom turbos and intercooler units."

8."People think it's a Skyline, or something out of the Fast & The Furious - but Mahmood is quick to note there were no 240's in F&F"

Then what in the monkeyfuck was Vin Diesels manbitch driving?


--Typical. So very typical. How many times have we heard about the wild, insane future plans that will turn the car into an unruley street beast. This bullshit factor is increased by a multiple of 3 when the engine is not of the same platform and then again by 10 whenever 'custom turbos' or 'custom intercoolers' are to be used.--

In short, this guy makes me sick. His car makes baby Jesus cry.

what do you guys think

[Chicken Magnet]

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> That's RICE POWER for ya! &nbsp;They've ran out of things to say about the Civics and Integras so now they're trying to talk about new things they obviously don't know anything about! &nbsp;That pisses me off, then again that's why I don't subscribe to their stupid magazines! &nbsp;

I'll stick to my Playboys and Hustlers, they always have great articles on world views and government. &nbsp;I just wish I could keep the pages from sticking so that I could read them...

[whateverjames]

who's mahmood? that name sounds familiar. either way, that was horrible. he beat a stock civic ex the first night! no, not the second or third night but the FIRST damn NIGHT! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'> with a mustang! that's important enough to be put in a magazine.
http://whateverjames.com/fightrice.gif

[Bbandit]

yea i was like.. whoaa!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> .. when i look at the article..
first.. it looks kinda ricy...
but im still thinking.. he must have an sr20 or a KA-T under the hood...
when i turned the page...
whoaa!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> &nbsp;KA24DE+I/H/E!! not much of a showcar and a race car... d'oh...
and he brags about RWD a lot...
i think he should stick with his old 5.0...

[Evil S14]

already wrote an angry letter to every editor of SCC, if he got in, why isnt half the board in there too?

[s14 RL]

Man this must be a joke...I know at least a few of the staff at SCC are at least _somewhat_ familiar with the 240--I guess they are stooping to the level of writing articles about cars that are more show than go just to attract more of the stupid street crowd.

[AutoDestruct]

That's bad. &nbsp;Real bad. &nbsp;should send that shit over to super street. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

[sykikchimp]

SCC isn't like that... &nbsp;it HAD to be a joke.. &nbsp;Please god!.. &nbsp;LET IT BE A JOKE!!!

[-E-]

hey guys to take your mind of the artical here are some boobies http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/images/smilies/boobies.gif

[boosteds14]

this is bullshit.

i hate it, honda owners are now converting to nissans

rice will soon become of 240s.

240s are growing rapidly. i have atleast 4 email a day about how this person wants to get rid of his civic, buy a 240, and drop an sr in the car to go fast.

and there is one near me. he is a former honda owner, buys a 240, drives it for two weeks, then is going to drop an sr in the car. just because he wants JDM. and FAST and Furious. it really pisses me off to the limit. these ppl going out to buy 240s because a magazine says they are so fast with the sr. these ppl actually go out and buy a 240 for just to have an SR. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':evil:'>

what is this world coming to

[One-Eighty SX]

Its comin to a sad sad world nothing BUT RICER CARS.... that is really sad. Shiet alotta ppl hea in Va is stilll rockin their civics they like those better cuz its made cheap and easy to hook up. So im glad there isnt alot of hooked up 240sx's around here. Well when my money situation gets lil better than it is at its current state im not gonna jus buy the 240sx and get a sr20 like a week later that is like so lame 1st learn to drive it w/ the ka24de. So u can get the feel for it and if suttin happens u can control it lil better wid a NA than a turbo engine.. well that is all i got to say

[Bbandit]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (EONE914 @ Oct. 24 2002,10:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey guys to take your mind of the artical here are some boobies http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/images/smilies/boobies.gif</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
LOL! but im sorry to spoil your fun eone...
i took care of that already... all the time from now on &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
<------------ (look to the left)

[SimpleS14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bbandit @ Oct. 23 2002,1:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL! but im sorry to spoil your fun eone...
i took care of that already... all the time from now on <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
<------------ (look to the left)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
LOL

your avatar is the funniest I've seen so far, did you get that from someone on FA?

[Bbandit]

^^^
nope.. got it from some DOA website long time ago...
as you can see.. im a big fan of DoA.. hehehe

btw
i scanned the article on SCC
*warning*: huge file... and for those of you who will get so pissed off.. i recommend not opening the link coz its not worthed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
here they are.. enjoy!
240sx page 1 (http://ceblazjari.kicks-ass.net/sccarticle1.jpg)
240sx page 2 (http://ceblazjari.kicks-ass.net/sccarticle2.jpg)
240sx page 3 (http://ceblazjari.kicks-ass.net/sccarticle3.jpg)

[Wei240]

Yeah, I must say this is sad...
I think its all due to F&F (crap), lousy articles (crap) like this in SCC, maybe even option mags/vids, initial d... sigh...
On the other hand the converts must also feel that the acura/honda scene is played out and trying to look for something unique...

On another note, I didn't know this until recently, but there is actually an initial d arcade game where you can save your settings on a card... there are actually several locations in socal (mp, arcadia, rowland h, somewhere in o.c and even in van nuys) that has it, I personally haven't seen it but read it somewhere..

[-E-]

damn you Bbandit DAMMNNN YOUUUUU &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

[LoCo]

damn ricers!!! They are spreading like ants!! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cry:'>

We have to ban together and destroy the ricers before our 240's become a rice bucket!! &nbsp;DOWN WITH ALL RICERS!!!! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

My name is Tyler Dudan *Fight Club* &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[LoCo]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (EONE914 @ Oct. 24 2002,10:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey guys to take your mind of the artical here are some boobies http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/images/smilies/boobies.gif</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
BIG BIG TITTIESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

[AKADriver]

Alright, I'm checking out the article and trying to figure out what's special about this car that it warranted a three page feature in a major magazine?

Hmm... bolt-ons... off the rack body kit... 'mystic' paint... some radio stuff... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>

It's just hard to understand when in the past they've featured some truly noteworthy 240SXs like Chris May's KA-T and Marco Vargas' clean red S13 w/ S14 SR.

[KiDyNomiTe]

I am just mad that i havn't gotten my magazine yet, maybe I should go check my mail. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

As long as they lay off the S13s, which they won't cuz of thier project car, but most people I talk to in my school about cars always ask me about what car Im gonna get, I am always liek a 240sx. So far most don't know what it is, even people who get Import Tuner, I guess they just look at the pics.

As long as they think the S13 is ugly I am happy, it'll keep em away from it, even though its soo sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'> .

Best thing that we are getting out of this is cheaper and more KAs for turbo setups <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[Chokets]

poop.

[Evil S14]

Response from an editor:

You're right. The 240SX sucks. I would never have allowed it in SCC. I don't make all the decisions around here. Editor Oldham feels the need, occasionally, to throw a bone to the show crowd. Fortunately, his big stereo, color-shift paint tendencies are rare. You won't see a flock of these cars in our book. However, Oldham thinks it's important to cater to more than just the hard-core performance geeks like us. I hate that.

SCC will continue to bring you legitimate testing of both modified and stock cars in our market as well as serious tech based around the same. Our primary focus will be on fast, fun and affordable performance cars and it always will. Don't look for this kind of editorial in our competition---they're incapable of providing it.

As for the language. Deal with it. Sometimes we're funny. Sometimes we're not. The parts of the book that need to be serious always will be. The parts that don't, won't.

Oldham loves his fart jokes. We think they're stupid. Try to find a happy
medium.

Thanks,

Josh Jacquot
SCC


ha even he says the car sucks

[Yoshi]

that was an honest to god reply from a SCC editor?
If it really is, it makes me REALLY happy &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[gabossie]

Wow, suprised I didn't see any stickers for APC...probably couldn't afford them after dumping 30 grand into the damn car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> . I am sure he'll get them soon, maybe we'll even be lucky enough to see a follow up article with dyno runs to find out how much hp each sticker adds! Argh, very sad.

Props to SCC if that is a real response from them, restores a small amount of faith in mankind. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh2:'>

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':baaa:'>

[240SxTYLE]

WTF <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> ...

that was a damn good reply from one of the editors... im glad that someone sees it that way (besides the fourm)... my cars not much but that this was just f-ing ugly... they could of picked another car than that... im pretty sure the guy payed SCC to put his car in there anyway

my real problem with that article is that some little ricer boy will pick up that issue of SCC, after looking at SS and I. tuner (cause hes at the grocery store with his mom and cant afford them) and see that 240 and think "its so tight and phat yo" and have mommy and daddy buy him one so he can make another rice machine... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'> "please save us nessan gods...PLEASE"

[Yoshi]

not to worry, Grumpy's RB powered, silvia converted, 240 will be in there in a month or 2, it will lay waste on the rice <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> &nbsp;It does have a lotta stickers, but it IS a shop car so it's allowed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> hehee

[teamcapsule]

That guy spent 6000 on buying the car and then spent 30k on ricing it out... HE'S FULL OF PURE HORSE SHIT!!!

[S14lover]

that guy rocks !!!!!!(enter sarcasm) hey eone where did you get that army guy poster? i want one

[KiDyNomiTe]

At least we know the ricers will either:

A. Not be able to afford an RB

B. Not be able to put it in and actually make it work (just cuz a shop can put fake FnF stickers on don't mean they can get that RB to work.


As long as they lay off the Datsuns, after I am done with college, Im getting myself a 240Z but no RBs or SRs, I'll sell my soul and get a V8 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> .

[dstyle]

MAn i hate all that rice poop. &nbsp;i have a bunch of those at my school. &nbsp;they think there little fart can hondas are the shiet. &nbsp;theres this guy who thinks he cool with his non vtec integ. &nbsp;hes like my car cool cuz i burned out in 1st gear. &nbsp;and he was proud he beat a non vtec prelude.

Dude now i cant wait til i go to japan and get myself a real import car. &nbsp;turbo nissan.
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As long as they lay off the Datsuns, after I am done with college, Im getting myself a 240Z but no RBs or SRs, I'll sell my soul and get a V8 &nbsp;.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Datsuns are the way to go. &nbsp;I saw in a japanese mag, a guy with a 4 wheel drive fairlady. &nbsp;RB26 power.

[AutoDestruct]

Yeah okay, guess that wouldn't be a datsun anymore.

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Would it?:
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

[adey]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Evil S14 @ Oct. 24 2002,2:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You're right. The 240SX sucks. I would never have allowed it in SCC.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Agreed; if that was a genuine response (and I guess there's not too much reason to beleive it's not) then I feel somewhat relieved that not everyone on the SCC editorial team felt like the car belonged there.

OTOH, they could at least have used something like a 240z or 280z that ricers will never (I hope) flock to no matter how many they see in mags... the 240sxs are still too available and maintainable (and affordable) to ricers...

In any case, the response calmed some of my anxiety, so that's good. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[S14_tat]

yeah when i first saw that i was like. okay the car didn't look bad (IMO) but yo when i saw under the hood. i was like <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> &nbsp;theres nothing!! even i have more mods in the power department then that. i was like how da fuck can sport compact car let something like that in? i thought the car was pure dodo. sure it has a nice bumper and it looks nice and all. but yo 240's should have definitly be a car with more go then show.

[thelinja]

Man don't you guys know it's better to have a car that looks fast than a slow looking fast car..... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'>

[Kitahara]

I just can't believe that they managed to spell do-luck wrong. &nbsp;I think they had it like dulock or something...

[logo20]

what a dumbass and what a waste of money.
why would some people dump so much money on a car when they can just get another good looking car and get a lot more performance

porsche 911 turbo &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>

[LoCo]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ Oct. 24 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Evil S14 @ Oct. 24 2002,2:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You're right. The 240SX sucks. I would never have allowed it in SCC.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Agreed; if that was a genuine response (and I guess there's not too much reason to beleive it's not) then I feel somewhat relieved that not everyone on the SCC editorial team felt like the car belonged there.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I second that! &nbsp;

I wish i had 30 G's. &nbsp;Doubt i would put the gay paint @ 350 per quart and spend 27,000 on just an exhaust, header, intake, and system.

I think i would spend 30 G's trying to get a Skyline.

DIE RICERS DIE!!!!!!!!!! &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>
LoL

[Evil S14]

what kills me is that the guy thinks hes gonna put a VG30DETT in his 240, i bet that would handle real good if he actually ever made it work <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'>

[SilviaDriver]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (EONE914 @ Oct. 24 2002,08:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey guys to take your mind of the artical here are some boobies http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/images/smilies/boobies.gif</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
tig o bitties <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

[camppain]

with 36,500 i would have had my s13 looking alottttt better than he had that poor excuse for a s14 looking.

also i would have had a killer suspension setup with a stock sr and still hand him his ass with that conference table for a wing he has!

what an anal wart

[sykikchimp]

Obviously the guy cares nothing about handling.. &nbsp; He has gab shocks but only FRONT SWAY BAR? &nbsp;and Front STRUT BAR??? &nbsp;that bitch will plow like bull dozer.. &nbsp;Suddenly his revered RWD car drives EXACTLY like a FWD (oh excuse me.. "Wrong wheel drive)..

That car epitomizes everything that is wrong with the Import tuner crowd, and nothing that is right... &nbsp;He spent over $3000 for the brembo brake kit to stop his STOCK HP??? &nbsp;MORON!.. &nbsp;what a waste... &nbsp;That man has more money than he knows what to do with.

Sad part is he was probably one of the newbies that chimed in acting like he knew everything, and we lit his ass on FIRE!.. &nbsp;now he's out being ALL the rice he can be.

[nrcooled]

That was one of the most disapointing articles that I have seen in a long time. &nbsp;I really thought of SCC as much better than that. &nbsp;I read SS just to kill time and SCC is the quality reading material....but now what do I do? &nbsp;Go back to Road and Track? &nbsp;

Man the world has been infected with the rice disease.....who wants to buy my 240sx? &nbsp;I'm getting out before it gets to me and end up putting a "pic-a-nic table" on the back (maybe that wouldn't look so bad ::cocking hammer back::) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':evil:'>

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KiDyNomiTe @ Oct. 23 2002,9:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">At least we know the ricers will either:

A. Not be able to afford an RB</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
well, the $350 per quart paint probably adds up to an RB.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">B. Not be able to put it in and actually make it work (just cuz a shop can put fake FnF stickers on don't mean they can get that RB to work.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I'm willing to bet if he's got $$ to spend on a damn paint job he can find a shop that'll do a swap like that. &nbsp;I'm sure a bunch of shops will take his money untill they can figure it out themselves.

Lesson learned: Rice isn't always forced upon the poor... it's usually just a product of the stupid.

[sykikchimp]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ Oct. 25 2002,3:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Lesson learned: Rice isn't always forced upon the poor... it's usually just a product of the stupid.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
AMEN!!!! &nbsp;(another reason to HATE stupid people)



Maybe if we all write letters to SCC letting them know our disgust for this type of coverage, then we may be able to disuade any future publications of this nature from them.

[Evil S14]

iknow about 10 people who have already wrote letters. here are the editors email adresses

Editor
Scott Oldham
714-939-2584
[email protected]

Technical Editor
Dave Coleman
714-939-2607
[email protected]

Senior Editor
Josh Jacquot
714-939-2614
[email protected]

Feature Editor
Jared Holstein
714-769-2360
[email protected]

Managing Editor
Kari Windes
714-939-2610
[email protected]

[ruf]

Did you see the last issue with the 3 basically STOCK auto Supra's? That was ridiculous. These guys are making me ashamed to be from Texas. Don't worry though. Our project/company cars (Reflex Racing) should be finishing up next year:

S13 SR hatch road/drift 400hp
S13 Silvia KA+T drag ?00hp
S14/15 KA+T drag ?00hp

If our cars don't make it in, I'll be pretty pissed. Blow away that silly little S13 project car they have. No compromises...

[Apparition]

It's kinda wierd. I used to drive a crappy old mazda, and then ended up buying this s13 coupe. Cause I've never seen them around. Nissan is not popular at all. Now, since all these magazines are cramming Nissan and SR20's down people's throats, I've had requests to buy my car. Its ridiculous. I know the apocalypse has come when there are altezza's for our cars. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

[misnomer]

How is it possible to put thirty grand into a car and come out with a table on the trunk, paint, and blue pipes? I'd love to be one of the shops that did that work for him. . . Not every day you get to shove a shift knob up somebody's ass and then turn around and sell it to them <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Oh well, it keeps the economy going. . .

[thelinja]

Why would anyone brag about beating an AT civic. &nbsp;I mean seriously folks.......And a freakin TT Z32 engine...wtf is this kid thinkin. &nbsp;I feel like I want to punch him in the face, steal his and strip all of the rice off of it and sell it to someone who will respect that car. &nbsp;I wouldn't even care about the GTA charges..It's people like that who rapidly deplete the population of a rare car. &nbsp;"I wanna put an S15 conversion on an S14 cuz I'm an utter jackass." &nbsp;Way to go moron..

[SIEKER]

just to let you guys know, i'm a honda owner...looking at 240s for a while. i'm not getting one now, i'm trading in the crx and getting a del sol. just thought i'd let you know that not all honda owners are converting to nissan just yet. you may all have a sigh of relief now. in the future i plan on entering the orgasmic world of nissan, but only when i can afford an s14...
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>

[Apparition]

and Seiker, what is your HONEST reasoning to switching to Nissan?

[SIEKER]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Apparition @ Oct. 25 2002,10:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and Seiker, what is your HONEST reasoning to switching to Nissan?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
"Because SCC and Super Street told me how to do an SR swap and beat any car on the road in a street race, because the 240 with an SR swap is unbeatable. i have no idea how RWD works, but i hear that "real" cars have RWD, and i want that."

Most of you probably expected an answer like coming from a current honda owner. However, that is FAR from why i'm switching to nissan in the future.

I love the way the 240 looks...plain and simple. Sure, the SR swap sounds great, but i'm not planning on getting a 240 simply because of the magazine buzz on the cars. To me, the 240 is just another import, and one that is less recognized than a honda...and that's what appeals to me.

Why am i not in a 240 right now? Because when i get a 240, i want to have money set aside. I want to be able to work on it when i have more experienced knowledge of cars. To sum it up, i want to get a 240 when i'm more "mature" in the automotive world. When i get a 240, i want to work on it, and do everything RIGHT. I've been into cars for 4 years now, and am not even close to the level that i'd like to be at (as far as knowledge goes). That's why i'm getting a del sol.

Over those past 4 years of getting into cars, i've spent probably 98% of my time learning about hondas and working with hondas. Not because i necessarily WANT to, but because that's what was around me, that's what my friend's drive (except one who has a 240). That's why i'm sticking with the del sol...because i'm still learning.

So i hope this cleared it up for you. I'm a newbie. I own a honda. I'm NOT a ricer. I don't give a shit about the 20+ different versions of the altezza light for hondas. I don't give a shit about triple decker aluminum wings for hondas. I don't give a shit about Mugen parts for hondas. All i care about at this time is how to better my knowledge of cars in general, and hondas are what i've learned so far, so i'm sticking with them for the next year or two.

whoa! that was awfully long. anyways, peace.

[madwilly814]

dude guys...... Urkels the man.. you gotta admit.

[AutoDestruct]

Hey man. &nbsp;Mugen puts a lot of time and effort into their work. &nbsp;Your being car racist now, &nbsp;not all honda's are rice. &nbsp;They just have the tendency to be displayed that way because of the massive amount of them out there and the cheapness of a lot of the "Riced" parts.(altezzas, exhaust, goofy body kits) &nbsp; &nbsp;Try to keep a open mind. &nbsp;You hate Nismo to I guess, just kidding. &nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[ca18guy]

damn there is a whole lot of bitchin going on in this one. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh2:'>

[sykikchimp]

I don't mind the attention. &nbsp;I actually like the fact that I can talk to a quasi-enthusiest and they sort-of know what my car is.. &nbsp;and as long as the publicity we get is good, quality, performance driven publicity, then our world will only be better for it. &nbsp;Its trashy articles like the one here that cause problems. &nbsp;I emailed them about it, and this is the reply I got from mr. oldham:

"It's a show car, we said it was a show car, and it is very similar to thousands of show cars all across the country. Get over it.

Scott Oldham"

He appears to be so oblivious to the rice created by this type of smut. &nbsp;He says its a show car, but they talk about how mr mahmood want to make it handle, go fast, etc, and how he street raced with a mustang, and take all the pictures of the car on a track, implying performance.. WHEN THE CAR HAS NONE!.. &nbsp;ugg.. &nbsp;hopefully this man will come to the light one day..

also.. &nbsp;I like people who are Import enthusiests.. &nbsp;what car they drive now, or plan to drive, makes no difference. &nbsp;We are all battling the world of "Rice" together. &nbsp;FWD..RWD..AWD.. &nbsp;does not matter. &nbsp;I gladly welcome any enthusiest to the 240sx crowd.

SIEKER - I'm glad your here.

[SIEKER]

Thanks for the warm welcomes, especially to me, the "honda" kid. anyways, to clear things up...i don't have anything against Mugen. in my earlier post is said that i don't give a shit about mugen. what i was referring to is that i don't care when a new mugen lip kit comes out for a civic, that's all. i don't get all moist just because something from mugen came out on the market. i love mugen stuff, but i'm not insane over it.

[Bbandit]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SIEKER @ Oct. 26 2002,3:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thanks for the warm welcomes, especially to me, the "honda" kid. anyways, to clear things up...i don't have anything against Mugen. in my earlier post is said that i don't give a shit about mugen. what i was referring to is that i don't care when a new mugen lip kit comes out for a civic, that's all. i don't get all moist just because something from mugen came out on the market. i love mugen stuff, but i'm not insane over it.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
welcome to the board 'honda' kid &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
i used to own an integra long time ago..
have fun messing around with your del sol.. i sure did with my long lost integra &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[Apparition]

Seikier, thanks for clearing it up. Welcome to the board. Nice to see someone who doesn't want altezzas and shopping carts for wings. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[Cam]

Remember folks, Scott Oldham has bosses too. Do his higher-ups care if SCC is educating the automotive enthusiast? Probably not, as long as they're making $$$$. In a perfect world they'd be able to do both, but I'm willing to ignore the occasional 'show car' since they're still better than any other mag available.

As an SCC reader for years, I often detect thinly-veiled sarcasm at these 'show' mods (ie. most Reader's Rides over the last year <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'> ) and I'm sure the editors all share Jacquot's "That 240 sucks" sentiments. But I honestly can't figure out why they'd risk pissing off their regular enthusiast readership just to grab a small piece of the already-flooded 'TvN3R-mag' market...

In any case, if you don't like reading SCC anymore there's a simple way to deal with it: stop buying it, and tell them why! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

[240SxTYLE]

welcome sieker
<~~ as you can see im a newbie too... im actually in the same boat you're in... but i own a two fourty (haha i got one and you dont =P...jk ). &nbsp;Anyways if you're looking to learn about 240's this is definately the fourm to be in &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[GTR240]

first is where the hell did the money go? &nbsp;lets put it into some numbers...

car- 6500
exhaust- 600
headers- 350
intake- 180
coilovers- 700 (is GAB good? &nbsp;if they are add 400)
anti-roll bar- 150
brakes- about 2500 (i know they are expensive)
rims- 1500 (at the most)
tires- 700
paint- 2450
body kit- 1200
system- 2500 (plus labor...looks nice but money saved due to JL...good comp but the prices are cheap)
seats- 650 (cobra...common)
interior paint- maybe 100
pedals- 35
steering wheel- 300 (its momo...but still not worth it)
engine ricing- 400 (cuz he didnt do it himself)
wing- 200 (didnt i see that on ebay?)
anything else- maybe 1000

so the total = 22015

ok i know a little up there but still not 30+. &nbsp;and now where the hell is the SR? &nbsp;and why go with a V-6 when the skyline is better? &nbsp;good god help this nissan sap. &nbsp;anyways with 22g. &nbsp;my SR would be in with about 350 at wheels. &nbsp;and body removed of dents. &nbsp;total on that about 10g. &nbsp;so my car would look just as nice and kick his ass with about 12g in the bank. &nbsp;someone bent him backwards.

[basemies]

well, the guy has probably never turned a wrench in his life, i'd figure about 10000 in for labor, half of that on the paint job probably.

[uuninja]

Ug three pages on this? Here is my take. Must have been a slow month SCC, or the owner used a few of those 30G's to persuade an editor. If you buy SCC for hardcore tech info your looking in the wrong spot. I have always considered that mag the best of the rice rags. Good toilet reading but good for little little else. Who cares? Move along, nothing to see here folks &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':baaa:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/exclamation.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':x:'>

[Bbandit]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uuninja @ Oct. 28 2002,1:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ug three pages on this? Here is my take. Must have been a slow month SCC, or the owner used a few of those 30G's to persuade an editor. If you buy SCC for hardcore tech info your looking in the wrong spot. I have always considered that mag the best of the rice rags. Good toilet reading but good for little little else. Who cares? Move along, nothing to see here folks <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':baaa:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/exclamation.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':x:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
umm.. 5 pages actually..
im too lazy to scan the last 2 pages &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzzz:'>
yea so.. 5 pages for that "heavily modified" s14 are definetaly worthed!

bbandit(king of sarcasm)

[uuninja]

I was actually talking about the 3 pages we filled up talking about how lame that article was <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[CoasTek240]

i hate that.. i saw my new scc, and i read on the front cover "bad 240sx" then as soon as i saw it i had to puke immediately. ewwwww!.... i liked the yellow civic hatch better than that 240... sorry to say.
i still love scc, but i am hating the 240/silvia attention lately.. especially with the 240 ricers.
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'>

[Stee Flo]

Well this sucks. &nbsp;As much as we hate it, it was bound to happen. &nbsp;You cant keep a good car down. &nbsp;Its just sad that ricers gotta jump on the bandwagon when ever they see an abundance of articles such as this. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> Dont think the altezzas for our cars are for off. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

[jskim9]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ruf @ Oct. 24 2002,6:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Don't worry though. Our project/company cars (Reflex Racing) should be finishing up next year:

S13 SR hatch road/drift 400hp
S13 Silvia KA+T drag ?00hp
S14/15 KA+T drag ?00hp

If our cars don't make it in, I'll be pretty pissed.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
you really want YOUR cars in the same pages of those pieces of crap? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>
come on, don't stoop to their level. Keep your clean, or find good magazines to feature them in... on yea, there aren't any, that's why we're having this discussion. &nbsp;um... someone call Peterson Publishing, maybe they'll start a magazine on par with Hot Rod or something... You don't find Rice in Hot Rod... maybe potatos, but no rice <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>