Intrest in ROTA p45r 18x9.5 (4lug)

[ZX88]

Ok for those who are interested in the rota p45r in 18x9.5 +30 in 4 lug ( I am not doing this Group Buy)

Just wanted to see if anyone was interested in doing a group buy on these wheels. I talked to the vendor DaSubyDude and he said that he would be cool ordering them for us. He is no longer a vendor on Zilvia but he was one of the first.

This is what he told me.

-At least 4 orders to get the order going.

-$200 non refundable deposit from each of the 4 members

-must be same size/color

-$900 shipped total for the wheels (18x9.5) (CA add sales tax), $200 deposit will go towards this final price

$900 shipped for the 18x9.5
$800 shipped for the17x9
$850 shipped the 17x9.5
-all +30 offset-
Remember: must be same size/color
so if you guys are interested IM him or email him.

Vendors AIM: DaSubyDude
Email:[email protected]

just for refrence:
http://www.rotawheels.com/p45r.php

[drift freaq]

Ok for those who are interested in the rota p45r in 18x9.5 +30 in 4 lug ( I am not doing this Group Buy)

Just wanted to see if anyone was interested in doing a group buy on these wheels. I talked to the vendor DaSubyDude and he said that he would be cool ordering them for us. He is no longer a vendor on Zilvia but he was one of the first.

This is what he told me.

-At least 4 orders to get the order going.

-$200 non refundable deposit from each of the 4 members

-must be same size/color

-$900 shipped total for the wheels (CA add sales tax), $200 deposit will go towards this final price

$900 shipped for the 18x9.5 and he said that he might be able to get the wheels in 17x9 and 17x9.5 both +30

so if you guys are interested IM him or email him.

Vendors AIM: DaSubyDude
Email:[email protected]

just for refrence:
http://www.rotawheels.com/p45r.php

He was not one of the first vendors on Zilvia. Though his ego may tell him that. plus $900 for Rota's? Why bother for $300-400 more you could buy some Works.
Oh but wait there 4 lug which basically means anyone that would want them will not be willing to spend $900 when they car get another cheap knockoff for $500 in similar sizes. I.E. I don't think there will be much interest.

P.S. Whoever removes the factory Rays on their Suby to install a set of Rota's outta have their head examined anyways.

[ZX88]

P.S. Whoever removes the factory Rays on their Suby to install a set of Rota's outta have their head examined anyways.[/QUOTE]

i agree with you on this but for people with 4 lugs they come in decent sizes.

[[email protected]]

He was not one of the first vendors on Zilvia. Though his ego may tell him that. plus $900 for Rota's? Why bother for $300-400 more you could buy some Works.
Oh but wait there 4 lug which basically means anyone that would want them will not be willing to spend $900 when they car get another cheap knockoff for $500 in similar sizes. I.E. I don't think there will be much interest.

P.S. Whoever removes the factory Rays on their Suby to install a set of Rota's outta have their head examined anyways.

We at Subydude.com/Wheeldude.com certainly do not have an ego. I mentioned we were the first Vendor on Zilvia to sell/custom order the P45 wheels. A couple years ago we did a large number of group buys for Zilvia members and got them some awesome wheels/colors that aren't normally offered in these wheels.

We did have a successful group buy for the 4 lug P45's and we are looking to start another. We are no longer a vendor on this forum so I will not be posting any more info in this thread. I just wanted to clarify a few things for everyone.

-Dan

[Pank]

900 dollars for ROTAS?
you can pay less money and get real wheels from grant.

but its cool that you're offering this to people that want them.

[Phlip]

So is this a group buy, or are you gaging interest?
I mean, because people around here are GOING to flame to hell and back out here in the chat section over Rota wheels... Personally, I give a shit less, but please have the proper channels in place before posting a group buy.

[ZX88]

So is this a group buy, or are you gaging interest?
I mean, because people around here are GOING to flame to hell and back out here in the chat section over Rota wheels... Personally, I give a shit less, but please have the proper channels in place before posting a group buy.

im just gaging interest im not the vendor i just saw the thread in the advertiser forum with these wheels but he didnt have them in 4 lug only five so i created this to inform people that DaSubeDude is willing to help us guys with 4 lug out.

[HyperTek]

rx7club guys would love to get thier hands on some rotas, but probably 17x7 lol

wheel brands like sportmax, motegi, tenzo, rota, just dont really get much demand lol.

Unless there would be $400 rotas in that size for 4 lug, then they would sell like hotcakes

[rainier]

thats crazy expensive for the set of wheels. i had the crappier offset/size 18x8 +48 i believe. i spent a little below 300 bucks for them from a shop in asia.

basically, they arent worth it. they do look good though, but the finish of the paint wasnt so great and even on all 4 wheels, and the paint chipped off real easy.

[Kougeki]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/CWestAccord/knock-offs.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/CWestAccord/knock-offs.jpg)

Don't go with Rotas.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/CWestAccord/knock-offs.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/CWestAccord/knock-offs.jpg)

Don't go with Rotas.

YOU ARE A FAG.

rotas aren't my first choice in wheels but anyone who copy pasta's this shit needs to be shot.


in this thread: buy rotas or shut the fuck up.

[onehundredoctane]

YOU ARE A FAG.

rotas aren't my first choice in wheels but anyone who copy pasta's this shit needs to be shot.


in this thread: buy rotas or shut the fuck up.
I agree, people can post these pics all damn day, but when it comes down to it, either you know how to drive, or you don't, and a wheel that looks like that, could have been a Advan, Enkie or a Rays for that matter. Wheels don't just fall apart, people fuck them up because they are incompetent at driving like they have sense.

[Bushido]

this thread is already ruined.

lock, and retry.

[drift freaq]

this thread is already ruined.

lock, and retry.

retry in the proper section, you should add.

[!Zar!]

$900 for rotas?

WTF HAHAHA.

OMG. Is this an april fools joke or what?

[irax]

P45R's look suspiciously allot like CST D-Specs

but then again.... how many companies do make 5spokes with sunken face?


http://www.sddrift.com/smfforums/index.php?topic=5321.0


wait.... how can you charge sales tax for california, when your not in california?

[olah.inc]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/CWestAccord/knock-offs.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/CWestAccord/knock-offs.jpg)

Don't go with Rotas.

you think this doesnt happen in a crash with an another car :bowrofl:
"my car is smashed, and the person from the passengen seat died, but my expensive rims look like nu"

why do you post pics like that? :squint:

[ZX88]

P45R's look suspiciously allot like CST D-Specs

but then again.... how many companies do make 5spokes with sunken face?


http://www.sddrift.com/smfforums/index.php?topic=5321.0


wait.... how can you charge sales tax for california, when your not in california?

um cause im not the one doing the group buy this threads purpose was to only see if their was any interest and inform people that i asked him if he would be up to doing a group buy on these wheels which he said he would custom order them for us depending on the interest and if we could get some orders. So sorry if anyone is confused this is not a GB thread.

GB would be done by DaSubyDude NOT ZX88 i have no idea where he is located but im assiuming since he told me that ca residents have to pay sales tax he is located in California.

[jackjack]

i'd rock em........... for spares. thats a hefty price though.

[Slidin240Wayz]

Enkei RPF1 or Rota for 900

hmmmmmmmmmmm

Plus charging sales tax to Cali only residents when you work out of cali is illegal.

[OptionZero]

He is not charging CA sales tax because he is not selling the wheels. He's merely coordinating with Subydude.com, which is based in Fremont.

Fremont is in CA.

[DOOK]

P.S. Whoever removes the factory Rays on their Suby to install a set of Rota's outta have their head examined anyways.

factory BBS, not Rays... but in any case, yeah I've bitched at several STi guys who remove their BBS forged wheels for Rota whatthefuckevers... retards. 900 for Rotas is also retarded. Like carlos said, you can get RPF1s for that with 100 times the quality and 1/2 the weight. Fuck Rota.

[Ian]

I'd get rotas for a daily driver, but only if they were offering fitment that I couldn't get anywhere else

(aka, i've seen rota 18x9.5 5x100)

[drift freaq]

factory BBS, not Rays... but in any case, yeah I've bitched at several STi guys who remove their BBS forged wheels for Rota whatthefuckevers... retards. 900 for Rotas is also retarded. Like carlos said, you can get RPF1s for that with 100 times the quality and 1/2 the weight. Fuck Rota.

Newer ones are factory BBS. Previously were Rays.

[KA-T_240]

I thought all STi were BBS unless you go back before USDM STi.

[OptionZero]

naw man. They were always BBS in the US

Even before the STi came here, the WRX had a ridiculously overpriced BBS optional wheel package (17). I'm sitting next to a WRX driver who's confirming all of this right now.

[Kn1ves]

I'm interested if they cost a lot less than decent used rims

In the $250~ range for a set

[CrimsonRockett]

Eh, they look decent.

But, no use either way because now I can easily afford to go 5-lug and buy real wheels.

GL.

[drift freaq]

naw man. They were always BBS in the US

Even before the STi came here, the WRX had a ridiculously overpriced BBS optional wheel package (17). I'm sitting next to a WRX driver who's confirming all of this right now.

Hmm, I am going to double check this. Maybe I stand corrected.

Besides my original statement still holds merit, anyone who changes out factory Rays or BBS for Rota's or any other cheap wheel needs their head examined.

[OptionZero]

350z owners who swap out factory rays for rotas, sportmaxes, and random shit

[blu808]

I hit a wall at irwindale. The impact was on my left rear rota p45r. It was a hard enough hit to make my car catch some air.

Wheel is still straight and working fine.

www.subydude.com and Joseph are great people to deal with.

[blu808]

p45r (rear)

http://www.sdp-online.com/freeday/fd29.jpg

http://www.sdp-online.com/freeday/fd42.jpg

http://www.sdp-online.com/freeday/fd40.jpg

Keep in mind my fenders are pulled 1.25" to fit my old gram lights. Would be perfect Fd fitment on stock body.

http://www.sdp-online.com/freeday/fd43.jpg


Same offset on FC

http://www.sdp-online.com/dbr1/dbr1102.jpg

http://www.sdp-online.com/dbr1/dbr1105.jpg

[Bushido]

^ finally someone else with actual experience...

too many people with no first hand knowledge spreading ignorant and unsupported opinions in this thread.

mods, close this please?

[Matej]

What about the +15's?

[markyboi]

i just saw this online. yes they are advans

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b73/markyboi_/busted-advan.jpg


I am not saying knockoffs are great and its just not right to copy someone elses design. Replacing oem bbs, rays wheels are just stupid.
I have works on my car and i would also rock knockoff wheels if the price is right. . I am sure rota have some sort of safety testing for their wheels, or else they would be out of business right?

[Quail]

These are really popular wheels in the UK. Probably the most popular wheels seen on our cars. If this price was for the UK market, it would be extremely good!!

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

P.S. Whoever removes the factory Rays on their Suby to install a set of Rota's outta have their head examined anyways.[/quote]

:keke: :keke: I remember when u first said that.. Funny shit:keke: :keke:

[markyboi]

i have a friend who has an e46 m3 who replaced his oem wheel with some adr wheels...pathetic


he also put borla exhaust and painted his oem calipers baby blue



i stopped hanging out with him after ruining that car.

[Off Da Heezy]

What about the +15's?

x2

has anyone sent in their deposits yet?

[Leetheslacker]

where the fuck are the 17x9 torques goddamnit.

all the ones i found are in the uk or some shit.

[MeSs]

We at Subydude.com/Wheeldude.com certainly do not have an ego. I mentioned we were the first Vendor on Zilvia to sell/custom order the P45 wheels. A couple years ago we did a large number of group buys for Zilvia members and got them some awesome wheels/colors that aren't normally offered in these wheels.

We did have a successful group buy for the 4 lug P45's and we are looking to start another. We are no longer a vendor on this forum so I will not be posting any more info in this thread. I just wanted to clarify a few things for everyone.

-Dan
Too bad you couldnt get me Torques in 17x9,5 et12.. white. :mepoke:
But for the ppl who can get awesome rotas in the us now, this is nice :)

And for the record, my rotas weigh less than the originals..

[jrocslider]

why start a buy in a size like that? +30?

if ur gonna have rota make you wheels to ur specific size, offset and color do it right and think about the future as when you wanna sell ur whels.

[ZX88]

why start a buy in a size like that? +30?

if ur gonna have rota make you wheels to ur specific size, offset and color do it right and think about the future as when you wanna sell ur whels.

he said he could get lower offsets

[Nismo2Forty]

I love how everyone hates on knockoffs like sportmax and rota, yet time and time again are used on the track and perform fine. I see them everywhere, sponsored cars and non sponsored cars, street cars and race cars.

Heavy or not, tons of people use them and they are fine for any use. I feel like people who hate cheap wheels just because they are cheap are in their own bandwagon. And Oh i know, they're not stong and blah blah blah... yea ok, in a head on collison or into a curb. Maybe they are bitter because people who have knockoff wheels pay considerably less, while getting the look they want, and end up having no problems with them... and ordinary people usually can't even tell the difference between whats real and whats a knockoff. Its funny that many think (especially the narrow minded on here) their opinion can change or stop this, but its only going to grow.

Its your own car, make your own decision...

[Kn1ves]

I love how everyone hates on knockoffs like sportmax and rota, yet time and time again are used on the track and perform fine. I see them everywhere, sponsored cars and non sponsored cars, street cars and race cars.

Heavy or not, tons of people use them and they are fine for any use. I feel like people who hate cheap wheels just because they are cheap are in their own bandwagon. And Oh i know, they're not stong and blah blah blah... yea ok, in a head on collison or into a curb. Maybe they are bitter because people who have knockoff wheels pay considerably less, while getting the look they want, and end up having no problems with them... and ordinary people usually can't even tell the difference between whats real and whats a knockoff. Its funny that many think (especially the narrow minded on here) their opinion can change or stop this, but its only going to grow.

Its your own car, make your own decision...

You totally swayed me with your argument.

I am going to start buying knockoff wheels because I only care about the looks and not the performance aspect of things. I forgot, I only buy rims for its appearance and not its actual characteristics.

Screw the engineering behind the wheels, I'm probably not going to notice the difference anyway! It's a lot better to have lesser quality wheels so the real companies who put real R&D behind their brands will price their rims less!

It will actually help the industry for me to buy cheap knock off brands. Since more people with limited technology can offer me mediocre wheels for prices that I can afford. Who cares about the big brand names, I'd much rather have them file for bankruptcy.

Now I'm off to the swap meet to buy my girlfriend a knockoff Gucci bag for valentines and get myself some knockoff Nike's. Maybe I'll even buy a Vii.

http://www.hdgamenews.com/uploaded_images/wii-vs-vii-engadget-737881.jpg

Nobody can tell the difference right?

PS Someone remind me to put on some GT-R badges and an Autozone spoiler so I can strike fear into anyone who wants to race me! HAR HAR! HAR!

[Nismo2Forty]

You totally swayed me with your argument.

I am going to start buying knockoff wheels because I only care about the looks and not the performance aspect of things. I forgot, I only buy rims for its appearance and not its actual characteristics.

Screw the engineering behind the wheels, I'm probably not going to notice the difference anyway! It's a lot better to have lesser quality wheels so the real companies who put real R&D behind their brands will price their rims less!

It will actually help the industry for me to buy cheap knock off brands. Since more people with limited technology can offer me mediocre wheels for prices that I can afford. Who cares about the big brand names, I'd much rather have them file for bankruptcy.

Now I'm off to the swap meet to buy my girlfriend a knockoff Gucci bag for valentines and get myself some knockoff Nike's. Maybe I'll even buy a Vii.

Nobody can tell the difference right?

PS Someone remind me to put on some GT-R badges and an Autozone spoiler so I can strike fear into anyone who wants to race me! HAR HAR! HAR!

Thats cool, I was waiting for a ton of responses like this.

Gt-r badge and a spoiler, random but ok, if that makes you feel better.

I'm not saying for top performance, maybe 2% on this forum would gain something from top quality brands. Many knockoffs you barely can tell the difference. Some knockoffs, yes, because they are considerably heavier than others, but others, no difference, especially since we aren't all pros here, well some think so.

And you talk about performance... haha. Look at the sizing on this forum with real volks and works. Hardly for performance. Theres more to it than brand of wheel. Your really not making an argument.

Ok, so i like the look of rotas, or i can get the nismos for twice as much. Hmm, i have an 240 thats worth under 4000 (if that) with all suspension mods. So i pick the rotas, drive around for a year or 2, occasionally letting loose on the car, take it to the track acouple times. The wheels are still together and i enjoyed the look and they weren't too heavy. Sell them and move on. Whats the point of getting butthurt on the internet, like who needs you to tell them they are an ass for getting a knockoff wheel for a crappy 240.

If you need perfection and top performance, good, buy the real deal from japan. Its like you guys have to prove something, and your not.

Yea i really need R&D for a wheel i drive to work on, or go drift for some kicks. Nothing happens to knockoff wheels, they hold up fine and life goes on, seriously.

I would buy a knock off gucci bag for my g/f. 10 bucks for her happiness and she likes it. OK.

[Kn1ves]

Until she finds out it's fake and you're a cheap ass and dumps you for me, who can afford the real thing.

GT-R badge and vatozone wing was a potshot at your ricer excuse of looks > performance but thats ok. Most ricers don't know they're ricers until someone points it out to them. Stage 1 is denial btw.

[johngriff]

Did I miss something?

Why does there need to be a group buy? They are already offered in that horrible fitment from rota. No need for a group buy, if people want them, they can buy them anywhere.

This just turned into a thread bashing, with random's jumping in/out.

[Nismo2Forty]

Until she finds out you're a cheap ass and dumps you for me, who can afford the real thing.

GT-R badge and vatozone wing was a potshot at your ricer excuses of looks > performance but thats ok. Most ricers don't know they're ricers until someone points it out to them. Stage 1 is denial btw.

^ every thread has bashing in it... whats new.

haha, yea i guess I'm a ricer cause i post on this forum and i disagree with you. You should read the post, i discussed my view of looks and performance. I never said "I" as in me if your confused, prefer looks over performance, or prefer knockoffs. You can still increase performance with rotas, depending on size. Nevermind, yea they really hurt performance, haha... But dont ask me, looks like the guy at the top of this page, uses them for his drift car, and said, they are fine. Your repeating yourself with nothing worth stating.

My girlfriend doesn't care about money, theres more to life. And if you read correctly, I stated if she liked it, as in wanted me to buy it for her. Are you a kid or what? I don't know where you're trying to go with this, like whoever has the most money wins, haha. What a joke.

[jrocslider]

he said he could get lower offsets


than why start a group buy in that horrible size when as stated above you can already buy them like that.

there was a thread like this back in the days where people actually got shit done and ordered them in a better size.

ask bushido.

[Kn1ves]

He's 'sponsored' by Rota so I'm not going to go ahead and take his word with a grain of salt. He's not gonna bite the hand that's feeding him.

Sorry but there are some people who would rather have peace of mind running a well made rim rather than having them break while driving hard, be ridiculed for wearing fake shit and help kill the industry.

I mean seriously, there are so many people here that put countless hours into modifying their cars and making everything right. Putting on a decent set of rims is the least you can do to insure that nothing will go wrong when you actually want to use your car.

Now if your idea of having an S chassis is a stop gap measure of trying to increase your popularity, just to say 'Yea I used to drift, this and that' then please get off the bandwagon as fast as you can. Because some people here, have more money invested into their cars than $4000, more hours than you can imagine and more heart than you'll ever have.

[drift freaq]

Thats cool, I was waiting for a ton of responses like this.

Gt-r badge and a spoiler, random but ok, if that makes you feel better.

I'm not saying for top performance, maybe 2% on this forum would gain something from top quality brands. Many knockoffs you barely can tell the difference. Some knockoffs, yes, because they are considerably heavier than others, but others, no difference, especially since we aren't all pros here, well some think so.

And you talk about performance... haha. Look at the sizing on this forum with real volks and works. Hardly for performance. Theres more to it than brand of wheel. Your really not making an argument.

Ok, so i like the look of rotas, or i can get the nismos for twice as much. Hmm, i have an 240 thats worth under 4000 (if that) with all suspension mods. So i pick the rotas, drive around for a year or 2, occasionally letting loose on the car, take it to the track acouple times. The wheels are still together and i enjoyed the look and they weren't too heavy. Sell them and move on. Whats the point of getting butthurt on the internet, like who needs you to tell them they are an ass for getting a knockoff wheel for a crappy 240.

If you need perfection and top performance, good, buy the real deal from japan. Its like you guys have to prove something, and your not.

Yea i really need R&D for a wheel i drive to work on, or go drift for some kicks. Nothing happens to knockoff wheels, they hold up fine and life goes on, seriously.

I would buy a knock off gucci bag for my g/f. 10 bucks for her happiness and she likes it. OK.

Oh so you have a problem with people running 17x9 +12 or 18x9.5 +12? Or 18x10 ?Hmmm last time I checked that was pretty decent sizing, with plently of tire patch contact for performance

See if you want to be cheap with your wheels thats your issue. Though people have a right to an opinion and ideal and a lot of people would rather run the real wheel than a cheap knock off.

Some people like knowing they are purchasing quality. A lot of knock offs are not quality. Some people feel Rota's are not quality.

Fact is for the price the OP was gauging interest in the Rota's you could spend a few hundred more and get a quality wheel that was not a knock off.

See at that price point your argument fails as well,because those Rota's are not that cheap.

Now if your girlfriend found out your willing to give her a fake Gucci, I would be willing to bet she would not be happy.

See there is a difference between being frugal and being cheap. If you found her a quality present that was not as expensive as a Couch or Gucci but was nice then it would fall into the thought that counts catagory.

She would most likely appreciate it. Though when you stoop to buying a Fake knowing its a fake, well thats a big fail.

See in the end what you fail to understand here is some people are willing to pay for known quality. Rather than buying a knock off knowing it might be shitty.

Would you buy a fake Rolex and pose? Thats what your girlfriend would be doing with the fake Gucci.

P.S. you brought up the fake Gucci arguement and though you say your girl does not care about money I bet she cares about not looking like she is sporting fakes. Unless she is a punk rocker and then just totally wants to laugh and shock but somehow I feel she is not.

[irax]

WTF? you guys date girls that would brake up with you or give you shit about getting her a knock off?

man having a low maintenance gf kicks ass.

i just saw this online. yes they are advans
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b73/markyboi_/busted-advan.jpg


what your not saying or may not be obvious to you is that, that wheel broke on the track and probably broke while hopping a burr.

while rota's are known the brake while driving and not hitting anything, or even braking on speed bumps.


even if rota were to completely change its business plan and make quality shit our medium pimpin ass could afford the name still has a stigma against it. And no amount of reasoning and good words from pro drifters can change that.

shit at least sport max makes wheel of an asimilar design and not flat out copy :nono:.

http://www.sddrift.com/smfforums/index.php?topic=4728.0

while that particular incident was with a ADR manufactured Stern wheel i've seen it happen on rota's

[Leetheslacker]

no seriously.

where are the damn 17x9 torques.

[Wulfpak]

Opinions are like ASSHOLES we all have them!!!!

[Bushido]

you fools that have no experience with the wheels need to just be quiet about talking about durability and safety. your opinion doesn't have any significance.

i'll copy and paste what i said in the last thread:




please.

how many of you have actually owned a set of P45R's?

they are <$900 a set, no shit they aren't the same quality as Nismo wheels...

but everyone makes it out as they wheels will just fall apart. get real.
you do get what you pay for, but P45's aren't going to spontaneously combust. The fact is, these wheels have been proven over and over to be made strong and durable. The Driftworks team has been running them for years on multiple cars with no failures whatsoever.

Life advice:
Form an opinion after you have had experience.
People that make blind assumptions are just that, blind.

I'm not saying this to stick up for the wheels I chose to buy. Yeah, they are knock off unoriginal design cast blah blah... but that fact is my 18x9.5's look good, weigh 22lbs, were custom fit for my car, and cost me next to nothing. try getting a wheel made to custom specs for cheaper... unless you want to be dirt spec and get Burt Reynolds SPL diamond racing steelies.

Nobody knocks CST's, Bee-R B5's, or Uras NS01's, how come?

I'm not proud that Rota is a knockoff company without a single original design, thats real wack in my book, and i'm not proud that they take profit away from the companies that pioneer in wheel design. But, for me they are a perfect combination of size, price, quality and appearance.

Coming from someone who actually has used the wheels, i'd take 3 sets of P45R's before 1 set of LMGT4's, but thats just me.

I'm not looking to shave every milisecond off my lap time to the grocery store, so i don't personally deem it necessary to spend 3 grand on 1 set of wheels, some of you may see where i'm coming from, some of you might need that forged monoblock wheel to get you to the mall that much faster.

[0100]

Offset fails.

17x8.5 +4
18x9 +4

Or like drift wrote.

17x9 +12
18x9.5 +12

Either way price is way too much.

[Nismo2Forty]

Agreed with bushido...

Its hilarious the shit people say on here... no real experience either.

Im assume their thinking process goes... Just once I saw a wheel that was a knockoff and it broke, not even knowing if it was in a crash or not. Now whenever "knockoff wheel" shows up > "Dude they are shit, they will break on speed bumps" haha, shut up. Seriously, if that was your experience with them, dont go flying over speed bumpers like a badass honda driver.

** Ha, thanks for all the positive rep for those who understand and can think realistically, its not worth it though because it will always be in the red, just because I have a logical opinion that doesn't always have to do with brand name stuff. And usually all these tough top +rep dudes are so close minded that they only ever give rep, negative rep i mean. Well unless its someone in their circle jerk. I mean "drift crew"

I actually like having negative rep. Keep it coming too, i know you guys still have plenty to give because i have an opinion. I LuV ReP BATTLEZZZZ!

[Nismo2Forty]

Watch out -BAM HERPES!

[[email protected]]

MeSs - We can order 17x9 +12 Torques in 4x114.3 if we have at least 4 people interested. We currently have plenty of 17x9 Torques in stock that we ordered for BMW's, Subaru's, etc.. we just need a group of people and we can get the order rolling. I can't just order one custom set in this size but I'm willing to order them if there's interest. I still have to order more than 4 sets but I will cover those since I want to get this ordering going. 17x9's will not be $900 as the wheel isn't as large.

These aren't 16x8 Grids that cost $500, the rims are considerably larger and that is why the cost goes up. The prices also include free shipping within the US, that means they are out the door prices and that's all you pay. He also just listed a basic offset in the post, that doesn't mean we have to order that. If you guys agree to a low offset (like +12) then we can do that. Nothing is set in stone yet...

jrocslider - Yes we did a group buy for 4x114.3 wheels awhile back. Those wheels are now all sold out and in order to get more we have to start a group buy. You won't find these wheels unless you picked them up used.

irax - I'm sorry but Rotas are not known to break by just driving or going over speed bumps. The majority of the pictures posted are from owners sliding in to curbs or crashing in to other objects where the blunt force goes toward the wheels. There was an issue 3 years ago with Attack wheels in which they were all recalled and replaced. Since then there have not been any manufacture defects and the new wheels meet all JWL, ISO, and VIA Certification.

We also sponsor a few local race teams and they have had awesome success with the P45R and Torque R wheels. One of the teams is the GST Motorsports Impreza L which has won a majority of the AWD Unlimited events. They push their car insanely hard and hop many burrs without effecting the wheels.

http://www.gstmotorsports.com/home/images/redline_ta/redline_TA_largev2.jpg

If anyone has any questions you can msg us on AIM : wheeldudesales or DaSubyDude

-Dan

[drift freaq]

you fools that have no experience with the wheels need to just be quiet about talking about durability and safety. your opinion doesn't have any significance.

i'll copy and paste what i said in the last thread:




please.

how many of you have actually owned a set of P45R's?

they are <$900 a set, no shit they aren't the same quality as Nismo wheels...

but everyone makes it out as they wheels will just fall apart. get real.
you do get what you pay for, but P45's aren't going to spontaneously combust. The fact is, these wheels have been proven over and over to be made strong and durable. The Driftworks team has been running them for years on multiple cars with no failures whatsoever.

Life advice:
Form an opinion after you have had experience.
People that make blind assumptions are just that, blind.

I'm not saying this to stick up for the wheels I chose to buy. Yeah, they are knock off unoriginal design cast blah blah... but that fact is my 18x9.5's look good, weigh 22lbs, were custom fit for my car, and cost me next to nothing. try getting a wheel made to custom specs for cheaper... unless you want to be dirt spec and get Burt Reynolds SPL diamond racing steelies.

Nobody knocks CST's, Bee-R B5's, or Uras NS01's, how come?

I'm not proud that Rota is a knockoff company without a single original design, thats real wack in my book, and i'm not proud that they take profit away from the companies that pioneer in wheel design. But, for me they are a perfect combination of size, price, quality and appearance.

Coming from someone who actually has used the wheels, i'd take 3 sets of P45R's before 1 set of LMGT4's, but thats just me.

I'm not looking to shave every milisecond off my lap time to the grocery store, so i don't personally deem it necessary to spend 3 grand on 1 set of wheels, some of you may see where i'm coming from, some of you might need that forged monoblock wheel to get you to the mall that much faster.

Bushido, while you may have experience with Rota's in general I have seen you post on this forum based on your own opinion vs actual knowledge on more than one occasion. In as such you shoot yourself in the foot here. Just by posting that the people that are talking about Rota's in a negative way have no knowledge. How do you know that? You assume a awful lot.

Some people have had Rota's break some people have had Lenso's break yet online magazines(Nissan Performance) propped Lenso's as light weight wheels. Did that make them good? No.

So you have run Rota's and they have not broken. That does not mean much in the bigger picture. Same goes for Luke,except he is sponsored which means he gets them free and if they do break he just puts on another one, LOL.

Its a numbers situation. If you have 10 sets of wheels and 3-4 sets break vs a name brand wheels 10 sets with 1 set breaking then you clearly have a delination point in quality. If you did an a online poll on how many people using all different types of cars running Rota's with actual numbers as to how many had not broken then you have facts.

Now all of you, including you and a certain other person. A person I might add, that keeps on posting his opinion based on being cheap. Have all got caught up here on whether the Rota breaks. Thats really not what the greater point of this thread is.

You want to run Rota's? Fine run them. I will say this again and I said it earlier,the biggest arguement to this thread and the OP starting it, is the fact that Rota's in the size and offset he listed are just not worth it! I.E. They are not that inexpensive and the offset is terrible.

For the money he wants anyone here on the forum to spend on a set of Rotas a person could pick up a set of Works or Enkei's for a couple of Hundred dollars more. Size and finish wise the Work is always going to be the nicer wheels. You cannot get around that.
Like I said earlier some people would rather run quality for a little more money vs cheap with less quality.

I have looked at Rota's up close and the quality finish wise is just not as nice. Some people like nice finish. Some people are content with a $500 paint job that looks shiny but has orange peel. Some people want a paint job that has no orange peel and is like glass. Those people will pay more.

Fact is in the end no matter what you say knock offs are never the quality level of originals. You want to rock Knock offs fine. Just stop calling people ignorant that don't. Especially if you espouse running the knockoff as being superior based solely on price.

Now in a quick nutshell to summarize

1. OP listed Rota's for a high price with a terrible offset
2. Several people spoke up and said why buy those for that price with that offset.
3. Said people pointed out for the money they would rather buy the real deal by spending a little more.
4. People came in and said Rota's break
5. You and the Rota brigade got all offended and completely overlooked the original points, which pretty much should have ended this thread.
6. You and another poster take as a personel crusade to convince people people Rota's don't break and are worth paying less, regardless of fit or finish.
7. Thread has left original topic based on your opinion and Zealousness.
8.Thread should be closed because at this point its worthless as are Rota's lol

[DOOK]

Now in a quick nutshell to summarize

1. OP listed Rota's for a high price with a terrible offset
2. Several people spoke up and said why buy those for that price with that offset.
3. Said people pointed out for the money they would rather buy the real deal by spending a little more.
4. People came in and said Rota's break
5. You and the Rota brigade got all offended and completely overlooked the original points, which pretty much should have ended this thread.
6. You and another poster take as a personel crusade to convince people people Rota's don't break and are worth paying less, regardless of fit or finish.
7. Thread has left original topic based on your opinion and Zealousness.
8.Thread should be closed because at this point its worthless as are Rota's lol


greatest cliff notes ever....

[Slidin240Wayz]

the new wheels meet all JWL, ISO, and VIA Certification.

-Dan

Are you saying that ROTA is a ISO9000 Company?

[Nismo2Forty]

8.Thread should be closed because at this point its worthless as are Rota's lol

And your still in here arguing??? Writing a book. Ok, i'd LOL too... Oh, "rota brigade" I think you mean knockoff brigade.

Fine, heres what i say to OP, which already has been said, get lower offsets that fit better if you intend to spend this much, it will generate more interest.

[drift freaq]

And your still in here arguing??? Writing a book. Ok, i'd LOL too...

Not arguing, pointing out how useless you Bushido and Subydude had made this whole thread.your above statement is useless as well. Keep earning those red squares you deserve them.

Oh I see you added a mimic of what I had already said to try and make yourself look good. heh you fail. The red square comment bares itself out well

[Nismo2Forty]

Not arguing, pointing out how useless you Bushido and Subydude had made this whole thread.your above statement is useless as well. Keep earning those red squares you deserve them.

Oh I see you added a mimic of what I had already said to try and make yourself look good. heh you fail. The red square comment bares itself out well

Ok, you win. Good job. Hope this makes you feel better.

I like red squares, but i'm actually losing them now bc of +rep... Like my life goes by those colored squares. and i do look good. Thank you. Please keep writing, i'm enjoying this.

[drift freaq]

Ok, you win. Good job. Hope this makes you feel better.

I like red squares, but i'm actually losing them now bc of +rep... and i do look good. Thank you. Please keep writing, i'm enjoying this.

sorry but my cliffnotes summed it up. Its not really a question of feeling better or worse, in fact I don't care. I made my points. I have nothing more to say on the subject.

[ZX88]

"Thread should be closed because at this point its worthless as are Rota's lol"


As the op this shit has gotten out of hand the only reason i posted this was to let people who were interested that DasubyDude would order you p45r in custom size/ offset in 4 lug if he got enough orders so a mod should just lock this so it doesnt continue being just another rant thread about pros and cons of knock off wheels. so for those interested you can IM Dasubydude. If not let this thread die.

[drift freaq]

"Thread should be closed because at this point its worthless as are Rota's lol"


As the op this shit has gotten out of hand the only reason i posted this was to let people who were interested that DasubyDude would order you p45r in custom size/ offset in 4 lug if he got enough orders so a mod should just lock this so it doesnt continue being just another rant thread about pros and cons of knock off wheels. so for those interested you can IM Dasubydude. If not let this thread die.

See and know you have violated forum rules by actually turning this thread into a purchase thread. Brilliant! NOT! more like fail.

[ZX88]

See and know you have violated forum rules by actually turning this thread into a purchase thread. Brilliant! NOT! more like fail.

First of all im not selling anything and all i did was some research and came up with this nowhere am i actually selling anything. Sorry for doing some research i was just trying to help the people who might be interested out.

[drift freaq]

First of all im not selling anything and all i did was some research and came up with this nowhere am i actually selling anything. Sorry for doing some research i was just trying to help the people who might be interested out.

Your research was fine until you pointed people to Subydude for purchases. That is where you made a mistake. Subydude has no interest in this thread beyond selling wheels. Therefor his participation is biased at best. Again thats a fail.
Maybe I was harsh on you,saying you violated forum rules. Though you certainly lessened your possible research position when you pointed people to him. That starts to look like a blatant sales call. I call it as I see it.

P.S. you could have stepped in and ended it before it got out of hand by asking a mod to close it. You did not do that.

[[email protected]]

drift freaq - I'm not sure how you think Bushido and I made this thread useless. The point of this thread was to gather interest for ordering wheels, not to debate the quality or price of Rota wheels. This thread could have been very different but the fact is you took it off course by replying first with a very negative post. The majority of the posts in this thread are by you arguing about something not related at all to this thread. So I would have to completely disagree with your statement. You make us out to be bad guys for trying to help people get wheels that they want and could otherwise not order.

-Dan

[Bushido]

Bushido, while you may have experience with Rota's in general I have seen you post on this forum based on your own opinion vs actual knowledge on more than one occasion. In as such you shoot yourself in the foot here. Just by posting that the people that are talking about Rota's in a negative way have no knowledge. How do you know that? You assume a awful lot.

First, I don't have experience with Rota's in general, I have experience with only the 18x9.5 P45R's that i had custom made.

I don't make unproven blanket statements. I don't form opinions of something because of the name attached to it.

One of the rules I try to live life by is, "try not to judge things without experiencing them first".

you should try it.

I do assume that you and the other people talking negatively about them have no experience with P45R's, otherwise you would have a different opinion about them.

So you have run Rota's and they have not broken. That does not mean much in the bigger picture. Same goes for Luke,except he is sponsored which means he gets them free and if they do break he just puts on another one, LOL.
Its a numbers situation. If you have 10 sets of wheels and 3-4 sets break vs a name brand wheels 10 sets with 1 set breaking then you clearly have a delination point in quality. If you did an a online poll on how many people using all different types of cars running Rota's with actual numbers as to how many had not broken then you have facts.


This is a total bogus statement/argument, you do not have any facts supporting that P45R's are weak.


You want to run Rota's? Fine run them. I will say this again and I said it earlier,the biggest arguement to this thread and the OP starting it, is the fact that Rota's in the size and offset he listed are just not worth it! I.E. They are not that inexpensive and the offset is terrible.


no shit, thats one of the reasons i said this thread should be locked.
also, those same prices would be what the wheel would cost with a proper offset and if you know anything about custom specification wheels those prices are extremely reasonable for a product that isn't shit quality or shit looking.


For the money he wants anyone here on the forum to spend on a set of Rotas a person could pick up a set of Works or Enkei's for a couple of Hundred dollars more. Size and finish wise the Work is always going to be the nicer wheels. You cannot get around that.
Like I said earlier some people would rather run quality for a little more money vs cheap with less quality.


Once again, this argument is moot. You have no evidence supporting a lack of quality.
Me, personally, I was set on a 5 spoke design. I looked at the options, CST, Bee R, LMGT4, NS-01. All are considerably more expensive, and weren't custom tailored for my car.
Size and finish wise, Work was not nicer, they don't offer 9.5 +15.



I have looked at Rota's up close and the quality finish wise is just not as nice. Some people like nice finish. Some people are content with a $500 paint job that looks shiny but has orange peel. Some people want a paint job that has no orange peel and is like glass. Those people will pay more.


I would post a close up shot of the finish, but I don't care that much to prove you wrong once again. The finish on my wheels doesn't have orange peel...


Fact is in the end no matter what you say knock offs are never the quality level of originals. You want to rock Knock offs fine. Just stop calling people ignorant that don't. Especially if you espouse running the knockoff as being superior based solely on price.


I never said the quality was the same.
P45R's are cast and $900
LMGT4's are forged and $2400+

of course there are going to be differences in quality. but is the difference big enough for a car that isn't going to be driven at 10/10ths all the time?
not to me. maybe if it was a full blown race car. but my car isn't and neither is most people that are arguing here. And the one guy that is using his car as a race car, has nothing but good things to say about the wheels.
Go figure.

...and the only people i'm calling ignorant are people that don't have any factual data backing up their opinions as i've said over and over.


Now in a quick nutshell to summarize

1. OP listed Rota's for a high price with a terrible offset
2. Several people spoke up and said why buy those for that price with that offset.
3. Said people pointed out for the money they would rather buy the real deal by spending a little more.
4. People came in and said Rota's break
5. You and the Rota brigade got all offended and completely overlooked the original points, which pretty much should have ended this thread.
6. You and another poster take as a personel crusade to convince people people Rota's don't break and are worth paying less, regardless of fit or finish.
7. Thread has left original topic based on your opinion and Zealousness.
8.Thread should be closed because at this point its worthless as are Rota's lol

1. no shit, thats why i originally said this thread should be closed and a new one should be made.
2. <$900 is a bargain for a quality wheel made to custom specifications.
3. thats fine if you got the dough, but why do i need a forged monoblock wheel for a daily driver? my car isn't a dedicated race car. If it was, my needs would be different. And it isn't a "little more", it's 3x the cost.
4. This is an unfound statement. You can't include all of the wheels Rota has made in this argument. We are talking about P45R's. They have been proven time and again to hold up to substantial abuse.
5. I'm not part of the "Rota brigade", you faggot. Am I the only one that seems to realize the only way to fairly judge something is with first hand experience?
6. A personal crusade? get real man. Regardless of fit or finish? you're talking out of your ass.
7. The topic became the unfound opinion that P45R's aren't durable and will break. I was disproving this statement with my personal experience and the experiences of others with the same wheels.
8. I agree this thread should be closed. I knew it was going to become something like this the minute I read the first post.

[Kn1ves]

Since this is turning into a Rota ad, lets show some alternatives to the $900 price tag. You really don't have to go very far.

Weds Kranze Cerberus 4x114.3 18x8 / 18x10 Massive lip!! ($1000 obo)
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=176957

Fs: (4) Work Emotion Xd9 17x9.5 +17 4x114.3!!socal ($1100 obo)
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=175360

FS: 18x8 +29 18x9 +35 5/4x114.3 JDM Leasing VIP wheels!!! ($1100 obo)
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=174045

Buddy Club P1 17x7&17x8 +35/32 4x114.3 ($500)
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=174117

Super Advan SA3 (4) 17x8 +32 4x114.3 SOCAL ($650)
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=165798

[Bushido]

cool, all of those wheels either look like shit or have shit fitment.
not to mention the fact that they are all USED.

[Kn1ves]

Really, I didn't notice they were used.

Work was not nicer, they don't offer 9.5 +15.

I always thought 9.5 +17 was pretty close to 9.5 +15 though.

---

So given the option

$900 Rota (brand new) > $1100 Work (used)

Seriously?

[Bushido]

but +17 isn't +15. and pretty close doesn't mean shit when you have 1mm of clearance between your coilover and wheel.

Learn about fitment and then you will realize that those 2mm's make a big difference.

[Kn1ves]

I didn't realize they didn't make spacers.

(which he includes in the sale btw)

[Bushido]

why buy spacers when you can buy the right sized wheels?
stop making excuses. this is retarded.

[Kn1ves]

You don't need to buy them, they're included in the sale.

That's not an excuse, thats a fact.

[Bushido]

hah, quit editing your post after you've already made your worthless point.

[Nismo2Forty]

Again thanks for the neg reps... atleast irax left his name. Keep it coming, it makes me laugh. And you can atleast put a better reason than rotas suck. Make it interesting.

Its funny people think this does something? Like "oh i'm gonna get him back and make him cry with a neg rep." This forums a joke.

Whoever wrote this needs help and needs to learn english, "your argument fails when you start attacking people among the other parts its fails at as well" haha.

This thread is a total fail. Lock it. Maybe i should make a thread about rotas... hmmm.... all the neg rep i could want. Perfect.

[irax]

MB weapons and competitions 535 - 645 price range
5zigens 820-1000 price range
Tenzo DC-6 850
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=155218
and then

but wait..

Tenzo DC-6 499 shipped
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=177038


all of those wheels have the most of a +28 offset, and go lower from there.

so if its really about prices... your ALMOST there
if its quality, it is questionably there
if its about offset, then its not there


sure 18x9.5 + 30 is great for awd and fwd cars and some rwd cars, but not on 240's so why is this thread here?

[Nismo2Forty]

MB weapons and competitions 535 - 645 price range


I would vote these best, but again, most s13's are 4 lug so add 2-300 and your back at the same price. blah blah blah, theres always gonna be an argument. If we all agreed, we wouldnt have a forum.

[Phlip]

I should have locked this when I posted the first time, but I hoped that maybe once this could have gone over without a pissing contest.
Thanks for nothing again, guys.