ACCIDENT!!....just got into a damn accident!!

[SimpleS14]

This happened about 5 hrs ago at night..kinda still in shock...but I will explain my story.

Ok...I'm coming from a red light and start crusing. I noticed I can switch lane and decide to get to the far left. But here is what happens...as I'm switching lanes I see the road in front of me is clear, but at the same time I notice two pickup trucks yeilding and slow proceding in front of the car I was behind. Out of no where one of the pickup trucks (the one behind the first) starts to shift into my lane really really slowly. I did not see a turn signal nor did I have time to react. My car was doing 40 (speed limit was 50)...so as this car shift its sideway right in front of me. Like I mentioned before I had no time to react probably. All I can do is slam my brakes, honk my horn and try to steer clear of this car....but it was too late. I can see was my front right hitting his left rear corner and everything happened in a flash. My car is struggling to move on the island as this pickup is still strolling and decides to make a stop. I get out of my car and the first thing I say is "F*CK!!!!". I look at the passenger side, my corner light was about 5 feet away, my fender was all f*cked up, and damage was done to my bumper and alittle to my hood. I'm constantly cusing as I look at the guy and tell him "damnnit do you know how much this is going to cost?!?"....and he's like "look at my truck, if the repair over $1000 it's totaled". Let me but on the side that he was driving a '79 GMC pickup...I looked at it and his rims was bent and also his fender flare...yet it was 100% driveable. A few minutes someone comes running to the accident saying he was a witness and saw everything....which is a good thing. So 20 minutes pass, cop finally comes and he didn't charge anyone..but he says its up too the witness and insurance company for who is to blame. During this whole time, I'm going crazy I can't stand and look at my car because of oncoming traffic and my leg was getting stiff. But once the cop came I was just looking at my car the whole time, told him my story and swap insurance info. The cop was really cool, liked my car and knew that I was not speeding. The guy with the truck calmed I was doing 60....which is a big lie....my car can not do 0-60 in 5 secs. nor was I pushing my car. Anyways I'm just rambling on right now because my baby is hurt and I'm stressing out. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':unhappy:'> The guy with the truck drove off nice and simple as I waited for a tow truck. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'> I had my car towed to the side of my apartment so I can look at it out of the window and just cry. (j/k) So I double checked my car and notice that I messed up my alignment or tie rods, because one wheel is in the turning while the other one is straight. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cry:'> So I'm cusing like a bitch, until my mom comes into play and comes me down (kinda). I'm just hoping my car is not totaled...it doesn't look like it. But damn my car is fucked up....its more then just visual. I also can't seem to open my right door.....its barely opens. &nbsp;damn to much is going on in my mind to make myself clear. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cry:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cry:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cry:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cry:'>

I can't explain how I feel right now......I just hope I'll be back in my car later on this week.

Does anyone know wassup with my alignment or wheels.?....I filed it as "tie rod damage"...also does anyone know wassup with my door?

I will post pics whenever I can...it just hurts right now to be car less.....actually S14 less.

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':baaa:'>

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

[SR20Fastback]

Dude that sucks soo bad. You're car is awesome, I really hope its not totalled. and if you see that truck driver again, tell him Allan personally says FUCK YOU!!!!


Well good luck, let us know if you need anything more (sorry I cant really help with your question <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> )

[Yoshi]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SR20Fastback @ Oct. 18 2002,9:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Dude that sucks soo bad. You're car is awesome, I really hope its not totalled. and if you see that truck driver again, tell him Allan personally says FUCK YOU!!!!


Well good luck, let us know if you need anything more (sorry I cant really help with your question <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> )</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Don't forget to kick him in the jimmy, HARD. &nbsp;Right after you tell him what he said <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[SimpleS14]

haha I wish I could, in fact I was about to do that until I found out he's in the Marines. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh2:'>

I double check my car right now and I noticed my fender is banged inward then outward to the point that the gap between the fender and door cease. &nbsp;That why I can't open the door. &nbsp;As for my front wheels.....does the S14 come with independent four wheel suspension? if so it must be my tie rod, control arm and bushings.

BTW, my car's value is at $5500....thats actually than I bought it for ($3700).

Yet I'm still down &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':unhappy:'>

[s13driver]

i think the reason that your passenger door can't open is because of the fender is on its way.. it happen to mine when some asshole hit and run on me... i was so piss back then.. thank god that my baby is just as good as it used to now.. so back to your question.. try to open the door and see if the fender is on itsway &nbsp;if it is then your door should be fine...
anyways the best bet to see how much damage was done to your car is find a reputable bodyshop and have them quote it for you...

PS. feel sorry for your lose, i know how you feel right now cause i been there.

[240meowth]

from what it sounds like, there is a chance that it's totaled, 'cause you were going 40mph. &nbsp;but it wasn't a big hit, 'cause he was moving as well, while the right corner gives a lot of crumple zone, i doubt the car is totaled. &nbsp;once reason for the door not opening, there is a chance for the fender being in the way, like someone had said before.

and if that guy is lieing and crap to you? &nbsp;and the witness is on your side, get him good. &nbsp;go get yourself checked up, sometimes you don't feel the pain from an accidnet till a day, a week later. &nbsp;and the docs know how to push the buttons and find out if you were hurt. &nbsp;i got my money for my silvia conversion after totaling my toyota camry. &nbsp;i felt fine after, but my bro made me go to a doc, and the doc was pressing on my neck, and it hurt like hell.

[crioten]

i was wondering if you can post before and after pics of the car. im sorry to hear about it man <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':unhappy:'>

[SimpleS14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (crioten @ Oct. 18 2002,09:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i was wondering if you can post before and after pics of the car. im sorry to hear about it man <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':unhappy:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I will just as long as they will fix my car up. &nbsp;So far I have taken about 20 pics of my car. &nbsp;I will post them next week...or just wait until my car gets fixed. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

[dephrag]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the pickup trucks (the one behind the first) starts to shift into my lane really really slowly. &nbsp;I did not see a turn signal nor did I have time to react.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

so he moved in your lane very very slowly, yet that wasn't enough time to react?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>???

[SimpleS14]

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'> its hard to explain with out showing you, but what happened is as I switch lanes this truck was switching in front of the car I was previously behind (about 10ft away). Since I was switching lane I'm suppose to spend up alittle bit, not to cut off the car I'm switching in front of. So I was going up to 40, when about 15-20ft away the truck was verring into my lane. Trust me 40mph is fast and 15-20ft distance apart does not give me enough time to brake and save my ass. My only reaction was brake and steer onto the island. If I just braked my car would have skid and hit more than just his side.

In the end, once I hit him my car was off to the side and on the island, saving my car from getting rear ended.

Oh yea when I mentioned "really really slowly"....picture a deer walking onto the road 15ft away and as your doing the speed limit your trying you best not to hit it....thats how it was with this pickup.

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':baaa:'> its hard to explain still....

[transient]

That totally sucks man... Believe me, I know how you feel. Unfortunately, I don't have much good news to tell you, if your insurance company sucks then you're shit outta luck. I know that firsthand <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>
I'm still thinking about doing something to the truck of the guy that hit me. I figure it's been a long enough time that he wouldn't point the finger at me anymore, but i'm still totally fucking pissed off about it...

[BEISSEN]

Hey george look at tis way if there is no frame damage then you mght get lucky and if you are not ay fault then you can just get yourself a nice front end conversion hehehe 97-98 or s15.Then you can sue the pant off that other guy and have a nice sr setup hehehehe boost and extra mods.I know it sucks but hey send me some of your pics and let me see how badcus i had a pretty nasty accident as well but i fixed it myself.I only have a dented hood left.My headlight was pushed in about 2-3 inches and my bar on the headlight was bent to hell and my bumper was saging 2-3 inches down.bu i fixed it and my bumper had a huge ass hole and that is no longer there.Just e-mail those pics to m and I will take a look.
Butr i hopew all works out for ya man.

[SimpleS14]

That's cool I will send you pics once I can get them scanned. &nbsp;I've been looking at my car constantly and I coming to a conclusion that my car is not totaled. &nbsp;It's really hard to assume the car is totaled, I mean the engine runs, there is not interior damage nor anyting done to my engine or front end of my car (expect the corner light), plus the airbags didn't go off. &nbsp;I'm just glad I was able to pull away (in a sense) towards the island, rather then just braking and taking the pick up head on. &nbsp;It saved my car from being messed up from the front and the back...because after impact my car was on the island and away from oncoming traffic. &nbsp;My fender is banged up and obstructing the door from opening. &nbsp;The only serious damage that I know I can't fix on my own would be my suspension components. &nbsp;I dunno what exactly is wrong, unless I have my car on a lift, but what I see(or think is the problem) is that the tie rod (or control arm) is loose.

I just know the first thing I'm saving up for is a brake upgrade....does anyone know where I can get R33 brakes? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[Foxcolt]

Suspension is easy to fix. Take the wheel off and look for bent/broken components. Only a the insurance company can deem your car totaled. If they do get the money buy it back fix it and use the rest to do whatever you wish. If they don't then fix the car. Simple.

I've been in your situation, it sucks. However you CAN turn this into your advantage. Don't make any desicions right away and have someone you can talk to that's not biased. A lot of
people with body kits/front ends get them from insurance.

Jed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

[SimpleS14]

If they deem my car totaled, what can I do to it?

I mean can I still drive it on the streets and still have it registered at the DMV?

Oh yea, I had to take it to the shop because I needed a car ASAP and my rental can only last so long ($500 credit).

damn I wish I could have talked to you a bit sooner. &nbsp;I want a new front end. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

[1BadAzz240]

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'> damn...sorry to hear that...but from the sounds of it, its not looking to good

[SimpleS14]

There is still hope damnnit <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'> I will not lose this car, everhting else is perfect. &nbsp;Bent tie rod and control arm are the serious parts. &nbsp;The other damages are bent fender, scratched up bumper, hood and missing corner.

Here are links to other pics:
pic 1 (http://mason.gmu.edu/~ggaisey/accident/1.jpg)

pic 2 (http://mason.gmu.edu/~ggaisey/accident/2.jpg)

pic 3 (http://mason.gmu.edu/~ggaisey/accident/3.jpg)

pic 4 (http://mason.gmu.edu/~ggaisey/accident/4.jpg)

pic 5 (http://mason.gmu.edu/~ggaisey/accident/5.jpg)

pic 6 (http://mason.gmu.edu/~ggaisey/accident/6.jpg)

pic 7 (http://mason.gmu.edu/~ggaisey/accident/7.jpg)

pic 8 (http://mason.gmu.edu/~ggaisey/accident/8.jpg)

pic 9 (http://mason.gmu.edu/~ggaisey/accident/9.jpg)

pic 10 (http://mason.gmu.edu/~ggaisey/accident/10.jpg)

SIDE (http://mason.gmu.edu/~ggaisey/accident/side.jpg)

BTW, my car's value is $5500 and from what I see I could have been able to do the repairs myself if I had time and $$$ on my hands.

[Foxcolt]

<!--QuoteBegin--GT specR+Oct. 22 2002,3<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GT specR @ Oct. 22 2002,3<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>6)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If they deem my car totaled, what can I do to it?

I mean can I still drive it on the streets and still have it registered at the DMV?

Oh yea, I had to take it to the shop because I needed a car ASAP and my rental can only last so long ($500 credit).

damn I wish I could have talked to you a bit sooner. I want a new front end. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
It might not be to late if you take action now. Ask for the money instead of having them repair the car. They'll give you exactly what it costs to repair it. Upwards of a couple grand. I guarentee your suspension problems can be fixed for less than 50 bucks. At that leaves you with a rack of money to spend on aftermarket "read: cheaper than oem" parts.

How do you think a certain person got his a certain front end on his used to be s14 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[SimpleS14]

So your saying go to the shop, tell them not to do the repairs and ask for the money from the insurance company?

damn how can I pull this off if they have started on repairs? (which I think they did)

Upward a couple grand? how is that possible? Now you got me thinking.......

I'm still stuck with finding transportation while my car gets fixed (if I opted for those options).

edit: Now that I think about it, I'm probably stuck with my car getting fixed at the shop. Since the shop works with my insurance do give an estimate and repairs at the same time. Plus they work with my rental who is only loaning out the car as long as my car is in the shop. Also my case is not finsh and nobody has claimed to be liable (I'M NOT LIABLE). However its up to the ending of the case to decide which insurance will pay for my damages. Now if this was just me running into a deer or a friend driving my car and hitting a crub. Then I would collect the money and do the repairs myself, with some help of course. I dunno man.....I guess I'm still out of it. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>


What would happen if my car was deemed totaled?
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turn.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':turn:'>

** post 900 ** &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

[CoasTek240]

i feel for ya man.... so much sympathy u wouldn't even believ it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

[SimpleS14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CoasTek240 @ Oct. 21 2002,7:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i feel for ya man.... so much sympathy u wouldn't even believ it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yea,

you probably felt worse than I do....what happened to your coupe (damage wise)?

[240meowth]

1) it is not totaled
2) i don't think it will be much to fix...

the fender looks like it took on the most damage, the support behind the fender will ovbiously be crushed, it can be replaced. &nbsp;The bumper looks like it can be sent to the bumper shop, and reapainted, hood bearly got hit, but it looks like it'll have to be raplaced, get a CF hood out of it &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

other wise, the bumper looks streight, so i don't think there's any frame damage, if any, it was probibly minimal...

[SimpleS14]

Thanks, so far I was stressin' about my car until I read your post. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

I just need to chill I guess....also my hood was bent up just a bit. &nbsp;

Maybe I should get a CF hood. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'>

[mkddoc]

no shit!! you have z wheels? i have been looking everywhere for pics!

(totalled my z, buying a 240, swapping parts)

[xS1LV1Ax]

That really BLOWS. &nbsp;Kick that guys @$$ man!!. &nbsp;I'll help u, if u want , hehe <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[SimpleS14]

damn!!! they are trying to write off my car (total it) &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

I will give updates ASAP <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

any help, tips or advice are welcome

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

[HippoSleek]

The important thing now is to find out what damage there actually is and how to buy it back. Here's some preliminary advice, but I'm sure others who have been though this will have more:

1) Make sure there is no frame damage and that what needs to be fixed can be at a reasonable price.

2) Check to see if you can buy it back - and if so, for how much. This may not be an option in VA - so you may also look into how they dispose of the wreck.

3) As for valuation - REVIEW YOUR POLICY!! Most will allow a claim for up to $1000 of mods (if documented). Of course, these are often removed and never reach the junkyard.

4) &nbsp;The way that the title usually works is that the insurance company will require you to sign over the title when they give you the check. &nbsp;They are then required by law to mark the title "SALVAGED" before they resell it to either you or some third party (i.e., junkyard). &nbsp;So keep in mind that if you buy it back, it will always carry the SALVAGED legend. &nbsp;That means that it may be more costly to insure and it will have about 60% of its value when it comes time to sell. &nbsp;Just something to keep in mind with this.

Chime in everyone!

Mark
-who wishes his car would get totalled sometimes... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh2:'>

[SimpleS14]

Ok after checking out my estimate, everything will cost $3152!! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

That's why they were about to write it up, but I'm going to tell them to just write me check for how much they are willing to pay for repairs, by the parts and fix it myself. &nbsp;

There was minimal frame damage, I just need to hammer in a few spots. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'> &nbsp;damn I just want my car back so I can fix it up. &nbsp;The tie rods are the only real serious problem, &nbsp;I can buy the parts from the dealership, both of them (Outer, Inner) for $81.48.

Wish me good luck &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

[240meowth]

when i totaled my 89 camry w/ 256,000 miles on it, and still running strong, they paid 2100 for my car, and i bought it back for 500, so techincally, they paid me 1600 and i spent 200 bucks to replace the hood and fender, and have an absolutly whacked out totaled frame, but i was driving that thing around as an ABSOLUTLE beater. &nbsp;but i think it should be about the 500 bucks range, because when i talked to my insurance company, they told me that's how much they sell all of their cars to the junk yards for. &nbsp;but than, again i'm in calinfornia, i don't know abou out there.

in sorry for giving you misleading info earler... &nbsp;but i can tell you, buy the car back and fix it yourself, look at my accidnet pics on my hompage www.mrclam.com/jeremy if i could fix that back for 2500 bucks (that's including the silvia front end for) you can fix that up easily. &nbsp;UNLESS there's frame damage that i couldn't see...

[BEISSEN]

Ok I went to check out the car with GT SpecR and wel there is no real frame damage his fender are got bent a lil not that bad.They are trying to basicly rim him off.Hisrim was in great condition and well they are trying to replace it.His tie rd is completely fucked and thats the most of the damage he could get away with his hood as is and just slap a fender and a corner light and a tie rod on there and it would be all good.

[SimpleS14]

Yea, I'm going to ask for a check and if it's low....I will just buy the minimum and spend about $800. &nbsp;If its reasonable, front end conversion &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> and a multicolor car such as Grant's. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

[thelinja]

$3200 sounds pretty fecking ridiculus. &nbsp;damn vultures....After you posted that I checked out your pics again and 95% of your car is perfect. &nbsp;My dad was driving my moms neons and the front end basically got run over by an Explorer. &nbsp;The front quarters, bumper, hood, radiator, headlights, signals, etc, and some serious front suspension rebuilding was done. &nbsp;It was only about 2500 to fix ALL of that. &nbsp;I'd freakin go nuts if I wasn't at fault in an accident, my car looked 95% perfect....and they wanted to total it out, I'd start throwing stuff. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

[HippoSleek]

One thing to keep in mind w/ the 240sx is that one reason insurance is so high is b/c the things total like no one's business. &nbsp;The fronts cumble very easy and the cost of a new front end is over $5000 (parts, labor, paint). &nbsp;Keep in mind, that an insurance claim is not a DIY repair - they do it professionally which costs a LOT more. &nbsp;With a car value at $5500 or so, that is usually a total for the insurer. &nbsp;If the airbags pop - forget it! &nbsp;

I was amazed the first time I saw a totalled 1996 SE w/ 72K mi. &nbsp;It looked like what would be $3000 of damage to most cars (it was $7800)! &nbsp;As far as parts go, the 240 is outrageous. &nbsp;When my stereo got stolen, I got $220 for the stereo and about $1600 for the door glass and center console sections. &nbsp;$1600 for a peice of glass, three pieces of plastic, new center vents, a cig lighter, ashtray, and hazard light switch! &nbsp;So comparing what happens with other cars just isn't the way it works.

Also, I don't think the insurance company is out to hose anyone. &nbsp;They don't usually like to total cars b/c they lose the difference between the value and the repair - which is usually something. &nbsp;They really don't have any vested interest in putting the car in a junkyard, just to take it from anyone.

The other thing I'd STRONGLY recommend before going forward, if you haven't already, is actually ASKING the body shop what the damage it. &nbsp;Don't eyeball it and say there is no frame damage and that its just the fender and a few suspenion bits.

Whatever happens good luck.

[SimpleS14]

Yea you are right about the 240....parts are friggin expensive. &nbsp;That's the one of the reasons why the estimate was high. &nbsp;They are trying to get a new headlight assy. at $217 and the only damage was the signal light. &nbsp;I look at the list of parts and all of them are a bit overpriced. &nbsp;If my dealership can hook me up with all the parts at a cheaper price....junkyard can be cheaper. &nbsp;But like I said, there was small frame damage to the front. &nbsp;It's at the corner of the upper tie bar and the labor to fix that was actually cheaper than buying a fender and putting that on. &nbsp;I'm still shooting for a check and take the car to another shop and fix that problem and maybe the tie rods (since I will supply the parts).

It sucks to have a nice car that's hella pricey on parts, yet the value of it is low.

[Phlip]

Happened to me once, total estimate on repairs came up to over 3 grand for a hood, rad support, front bumper, some other shit and paint for my front end and they valued the car at like 4500... Totalled, so they say. What they do is offer a salvage title and give you the value less the deductible and some other magical number they come up with. This wound up being enough for me to get my car fixed, remove EVERY ding 6 years of life will give a car, get a new BACK bumper as well and get a new color too... And they could have saved a grand and just kept the car gold like I wanted in the first place... I can't complain now, except for the fact that everyone in the area recognizes me as the "dude in the purple 240 with dreadlocks" MY CAR AIN'T PURPLE!!! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':evil:'>

[SimpleS14]

Well besides making a new thread I decided to give some of you an update.

I got my car back &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

But its completely torn down on the front end, except for the hood and driver side fender. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> &nbsp;All the other pieces I had to toss in my car when I was towing it back to my place.

I'm getting a check for $3100 from my insurance and once I get that check I'm going to order parts and a new front end...but I might change my mind on that one.

I had to jump start my car, because my battery is dead. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> &nbsp; Once I started up my car my check engine light was on, unless I started to rev the engine. &nbsp;The engine revs nicely, but my exhaust was smoking &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':evil:'> &nbsp;actually I think it was because it was burning off crud and the weather was cold and wet. &nbsp;I hate how there was water inside the headlight sockets <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':unhappy:'> I hope that didn't do any damage.

So basically I'm going to get a new battery, car cover, and hopefully work on my car this Friday. &nbsp;I'll take pics of the defaced car and the finshed product.

[SilviaDriver]

i didnt read everything so ima juss post

your car is in no way or shape or even close to being totaled..you should see my friends integra..car flipped into the air and SMASHED againt a big tree..smashed like a pancake..a 99 integra too..so it was pretty damn new

ur car would be ez to fix..touch up the hood a bit..get a new fender..u can always keep that bumper..kidna looks ok from the pics ive seen [only viewed 2]..or u can always do s15 conversion haha

all in all..i feel sorry for ur car man, good thing u didnt get hurt or anything..no 240 owner or 240 itself shoudl go thru such pain and sorrow