1jz/2jz swap kit need input

[ruckus-racing]

ok i know some company somewhere makes a s-chassis swap kit for like $1500 for mounts and shaft. i am in the works on my own kit for like $850.00 for mounts and shaft. i was just wandering how if anyone has any input on how popular this swap is. i am not trying to sell anything becauseim not a vendor on here but i just need all of your input.
thanks,
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[irax]

its BS

just slot the holes on the k-member, it bolts in


save money on mounts, and buy a 1pc steel shaft

[hitman]

ya, im kinda interested in this. 1j seems dope

[slideways2004]

interested if you can acheive badass fitment. low and as far back as possible. i have only seen one set of mounts that did this and apparently they were one-off customs

[timlush]

interested if you can acheive badass fitment. low and as far back as possible. i have only seen one set of mounts that did this and apparently they were one-off customs

x2

We need more options that don't cost 1.5 grand :rolleyes:

[Bushido]

^ i agree. even 850 is a little steep imo.

[soon2bs13]

^ i agree. even 850 is a little steep imo.

we are not even suppose to be able to put toyota motors in our cars. u have to pay to play. i would pay 850 for a swap kit.

[slideways2004]

also, the kits that cost like $1500 make the motor fit easy. menaing they place it so everything is easy. its not as far back and low as possible. every inch counts!!

[Deftec]

Yes, Tech2's kit is designed to save space and be a direct bolt in for everything. Price is a little steep, but if you're already going with a 2jz, expect it. I've heard(rumors) about slotting the crossmember and using sr20 mounts and it bolts in, but that's just he say she say. I'm still undecided on how I'm going to mount mine, so if anyone has any personal experience about mounting the 2jz's...please chime in:D

[B Love]

Mounts prolly arent too hard to make. just do your own. Plus 1j is mad cheap and can do small things for easy hp. Im planning 1j for my s14. just because of the price

[RB S13]

i'd rock that ish.... freals... no matter if its a sacrilage to put toyota in a nissan... thats some top secret type ish...

^bump^

:bigok:


ferget tha haters on this one.... i'd rock it

by the way thanks cody.... i got the rbmount kit (joemor619) putting it in next month... rb25det hks mani w/gt3076r & sard intake, rail, & plenum...

i got two more s-chasis to build... i wanna see u make those mounts... i'd buy em....

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[Bushido]

we are not even suppose to be able to put toyota motors in our cars. u have to pay to play. i would pay 850 for a swap kit.
gotta pay 850 bucks to play? 500 at most goes to a driveshaft. 350 for motor mounts and a transmission mount?

steep.

I'll make my own for that much.

[ruckus-racing]

the price is not set in stone i have to figure out exactly what has to go into them. you have the remember laser cutting cost,welding time, cleaning, and powder coating. all this adds up at the end of the day.

[driftking777]

i have done the 2jz swap, i personally got all the stuff from tech2, fitment is nice, easy swap, however tech2 seems to be very unorganized, it took me about 2-3 months to get everything i ordered from them (and everything was instock)...and there was alot of "fabbing" required to make stuff fit, which pisses me off after spending 1500 bucks for a "bolt in" kit

however...pics

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/driftking777/2JZ%20projekt/DCP_1792.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/driftking777/2JZ%20projekt/2jzIN19.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/driftking777/2JZ%20projekt/2jzIN18.jpg

and for further instructions, i would recommend doing this all with a car lift, because putting the motor in from the top is a PITA...from the bottom is premo.

~Nick

[Zilvia4eva]

like I said before $850 is resonable with the drive shaft included....and if the quality is good,you will blow out the competition for that price

these parts shouldn't be any harder to fabricate than the rb25 mounts,only difference is that the rb is much bigger

[HellonFire]

Motor is easy to drop in from above.

Mount details coming soon.

Tyler

http://a780.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/120/l_85c72f9e721d9131038d09fe5dd51e7b.jpg

[B Love]

Plus you have so much space on that side you can run giant turbo

[ruckus-racing]

thats awsome

[SWAT Team S14]

you make this kit & i WILL buy it.....i've wanted to do this swap for a while, but 1500 for the kit plus wiring plus custom i/c pipes & exhaust is just too much.......

[hinds90]

If you make these you can definately put me on the list .

[driftking777]

Motor is easy to drop in from above.

Mount details coming soon.

Tyler



did you take the front rad support off to do it? i found that on the s13 you really have to get that motor tilted pretty far to get it to go in smoothly. I also had clearance issues with the firewall in some spots (to get the motor to mount to the subframe)

[HellonFire]

did you take the front rad support off to do it? i found that on the s13 you really have to get that motor tilted pretty far to get it to go in smoothly. I also had clearance issues with the firewall in some spots (to get the motor to mount to the subframe)

Nope, just like a normal swap.

Tyler

[slw240sx]

should be good

[soon2bs13]

gotta pay 850 bucks to play? 500 at most goes to a driveshaft. 350 for motor mounts and a transmission mount?

steep.

I'll make my own for that much.

considering you are already spending loads of money for 2jz/1jz and all the custom stuff, what is 850 dollars? steep is 1800 dollars that the swap kit now costs.

okay, make your own. then tell us how much you spent to make it and how much you are willing to sell it to us for. :coold:

[slideways2004]

Motor is easy to drop in from above.

Mount details coming soon.

Tyler

http://a780.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/120/l_85c72f9e721d9131038d09fe5dd51e7b.jpg

what kind of mani/turbo is that??
it looks like the MTR mani

[ruckus-racing]

its BS

just slot the holes on the k-member, it bolts in


save money on mounts, and buy a 1pc steel shaftnegative. i started working onthem and its alot more than slotting you k-member

[cloudstrife930]

we are not even suppose to be able to put toyota motors in our cars. u have to pay to play. i would pay 850 for a swap kit.


yeah but at the end of the day, your paying 800-1200 for engine mounts, almost as much as the swap.

[420sx]

if you dont have money and you wanna complain at the cost or lack fabbing skills GTFO. you wanna play you gotta pay either with $ or your personal time

[Deftec]

Yea, I think I'm going to bite the bullet and buy the kit that way I can store all my parts and have minimal down time on my car.

[turtle m3th]

negative. i started working onthem and its alot more than slotting you k-member

care to elaborate, because I have seen a couple of people do this on fresh alloy and Duy with the s14 running 8's is one of them. In my opinion he is very knowledgeable and I would trust his word and he's posted pics to prove this, so if you say it's mjore work than that do you care to show proof of this? Cause i would like to know what possible issue i may face. Thanks.

[Zilvia4eva]

FYI: Duy does not do his own work...he pays for it,also that 8sec 2jz/s14 is not driven by him,but a payed driver.


Also,the problem about going the same route Duy and some other guys did by just dropping in the motor after redrilling the crossmember is that you will not be able to use the front sway bar....just take a look at that $1700 kit sold by tech2 it uses a spacer in order to make the 240 front sway bar work with the jz swap

[turtle m3th]

^ Either way, dude posts pictures to back up what he says. I'll see if i can come across some, but the sway bar issue is something I was expecting. I feel that is an issue with swapping any inline-6 into an S chassis, but are there any other major issue in which you have heard of or have come across? Because anyone with a welder can remedy the sway bar issue. Also if you look at the motor mounts that Tech2 supplies, they are just that. Motor mounts. There are no arms in which are necessary to mount this motor up (like the mckinney rb swap does) it just sits on the stock 2jz mounting arms with a bolt that goes directly through the cross member and one going directly through the mounting arm. So I don't feel like there is much of a relocation of the motor by using their mounts. Maybe they have the height dialed in, but that isn't anything you can't figure out while the motor is out of the car. Just grab the stock cross member (After slotting) and bolt it up out of the motor and check for clearances. Even though I hear mixed reviews about slotting the cross memeber i still feel as if it is a practical way to go about mounting the motor up. Saving money is the key here and just because you have it doesn't mean you have to throw it away when you can figure somethings out on your own. I should be performing this swap soon, or at least getting the motor clearance figured out, so i'll post a write up about it and hopefully I can put some questions or doubts that people are having to rest.

[turtle m3th]

here are the only pictures I have at the moment. I'll post more if I can find them.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/sc399/240016.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r312/sc399/240011.jpg

not the best pics, but you get the picture...

[turtle m3th]

And here's how the motor sits on nismo mounts...

http://i3.tinypic.com/11azukm.jpg

http://i3.tinypic.com/11azypk.jpg

[eastcoastS14]

did USDM supras come with a version of the 1jz?...srry idk supras

[Bushido]

no, afaik... we never got a 1jz, just 2jz variants.

[eastcoastS14]

ah....well does anyone know how many parts are interchangable between 1jz and usdm 2jz/other toyota engines....it would be great if you could pick up major parts ie starter,alternator etc at autozone or something

[turtle m3th]

Why do you ask? Do you have a 1j or are you considering it because it's cheaper. Because if that is the case if i were you i'd consider going na-t with a 2jz from an sc300, is300, na supra, or a gs300 which obviously you can source parts for. These motors are built the exact same way as the supra 2jz with forged internals except for the head gasket, oil squirters, and pistons. Other than that the na head flows slightly better and these motors can be had for $300-500 all day long. This is the route that i am approaching. check this link out.

http://www.2jzswap.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=262&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[240sx2jz]

you guys must all be running the r154 tranny. or you shortened the shift linkage because there is no way you could get the motor that far back using the v160.

[Viggs]

I'm going to throw in what I know about the mounts. The engine can really only sit in one place if you have no plans of hacking into the Crossmember. I took my front sump pan and dropped it into the opening between the sway bar and crossmember so you can see what I'm taking about.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/Iceman1151/Baywpan.jpg
The engine will sit plenty low I think in this position....
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/Iceman1151/Underside.jpg
Now if you want to go lower your going to be in trouble....you have to lower the sway bar and notch the crossmember and possibly even the entire powersteering rack because the upper half of the oil pan is up there too. Pics.....
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/Iceman1151/Pans.jpg
So you must decide between I want my JZ to be low, or I want it to be super far back....they DO NOT go hand in hand. You can kind of see where my engine sits based on these pics, I know the pan is tilted back, but its just sitting there for the pics
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/Iceman1151/Rearspacing.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/Iceman1151/Spacing.jpg
The pics arent taken from quite the right angle, but It will be about one inch away from the firewall.
These are what my mounts look like
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/Iceman1151/Mounts.jpg
The position of my engine is as low as it can go, at the expense of bringing it forward that little bit from the firewalll. Looking at Turtles mounts...You used the stock 2jz engine mount feet and put them on the Nismo Rubber mounts mounts. Mine Bolt to the Nismo mounts too btw. But my point being that the 2jz engine feet are longer than my custom ones and since we both use the nismo mounts....mine must sit lower but more forward, and yours must sit farther back but higher...which is better?? I don't know. Now here is a little twist on all of this...I have read that it doesn't matter if your mounting a 1jz or 2jz, they both mount the same. That being said, you have a 2jz and I'm saying that your engine sits a little higher and yet you say you had to space the sway bar. I have a 1jz and my engine sits lower...but yet no problem whatsoever with the sway bar. So maybe they are indeed different. Here is my 1jz...I just wanted to show it.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/Iceman1151/1jz.jpg

[turtle m3th]

240sx2jz : the majority of the people who do this swap end up using the r154 trans from a 1jz soarer which places the shifter in an ideal location iirc, but if you choose to use a mark iii turbo trans from a supra (which is also a r154 and much easier to source) you will ne needing to source a 1jz bell housing to mount up to the 2j and some sort of shifter extension or you can rig up the shifter with an s-bend.

viggs : thats wtf i'm talking about! I hate it when people make bold statements without anything to back them, because they sway people away from attempting things from putting out inaccurate info. I actually plan to make some custom mounts like gavster on this forum did after I figure out a good balance of the two (height and backspacing). Keep me posted on how you decide to go about doing so. The only thing I notice about the tech2 kit is that the cross member mounting points have been modified for a shorter rake to accept the longer mounting feet, which is nothing hard to remedy with doing a mount such as gavster did, but simple adjusting the lower portion of the actual mount (kind of like pie cutting for IC piping). Rep for you btw!

[Viggs]

Thanks for the Rep!! About the whole R154 thing....I'm a little confused about the different types out there. I know about the supra one...and the soarer one but check the one that I received with my motorset. The shifter is like an extended version of the supra one, with a huge s bend as well. I will post pics of the 3 types....mine being the last.
This is a supra r154:
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/Iceman1151/R154right.jpg
See that there is no extension on the housing?

Now this is a Soarer R154:
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/Iceman1151/soarerr154w.jpg
See the extension?
Now this is the one I received....
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/Iceman1151/myr154.jpg
See the slight extension and S bend? I'm pretty sure this will sit just about perfect in the shifter hole. I just want to know what its out of so I can tell you guys what to look for when purchasing one if your doing the swap. I will ask the supra guys later today if no one knows. Maybe its out of a chaser?

[hitman]

jeeze. that tranny looks huge.
anyone know how much these weigh with tranny and turbo shit?

[Zilvia4eva]

engine + trans= 600lbs more or less....cant remember exactly how much set weighed but it was close.

thanks for posting the pics guys...."Viggs" ,if you want to make another motor & tranny mount made let me know.....:)

btw:I dont know exactly why Duy and another few members eliminated the front swap bars,they just stated in their threads that they did so...maybe because they are running 2j's or just went about it a different way when dropping in the motor

[ruckus-racing]

awsome info. i am not trying to steer anyone away from doing anything. when i sat the engine in the car the legs that came down from the engine set about 1inch in front of the factory crossmember. one of my friends intown who is a toyota guy said there may have been some difference between certain years. so i am reading up on it now. i dont post pics because i have alot going on in the day at my shop. if i get an extra moment i will post some though

[Zilvia4eva]

^^^^
Thats odd,do you know exactly what engine set you have?....soarer,chaser,markIII,supra

[LowNismo17]

IIRC only S13 chassis have the sway bay clearance issue. also you guys need to check out turbo dave (TDF). he is one of the first guys to do the 2jz swap. i believe his mounts and drive shaft go for $1200 and there is no shipping your cross member. he also has custom a/c lines, intake manifolds, $150 shifter extensions, wiring harness mods and other items for the 2jz swap. search mainstream performance.

on another note, i just sold my Built SR and i am about to buy a 5 speed 2jz from a aristo. I myself am going to try the slotting of the cross member method unless someone comes out with a cheap mount kit and drive shaft kit

[turtle m3th]

viggs: did you get that trans off of someone else who has done a 2j swap in a 240sx because if you want better shifter placement with the supra trans that s-bend is required. I'll get a pic in a sec. Also that is why the soarer trans requires no shifter extension for great placement because it is extended from the factory. This raises the question of whether or not you can use the stock soarer shifter unit? I'm gonna do some research on that one.

ruckus-racing: Cool cool, don't mean to call anyone out or anything, just feel that some photos of what your issues were would have helped out alot, but try to keep us posted on your progress. The more the merrier!

zilvia4eva: Those guys most likely don't care about the sway bar because they are drag cars. I know this is a fact in duy's case. As for the others, you'd have to know the purpose for what they are using their cars for...

here you go. Hopefully this helps you out some...

http://www.drag240sx.com/datas/users/131-imga0743.jpg

This is the mark III trans in a S13 chassis...

[Deftec]

Yes, if you have the soarer transmission you do NOT need the shifter extension from tech 2. Here, compare the difference(I have the USDM MK3 trans)

Don't know how well you can see it, sorry. Also the shifter and what not isn't on in this picture.

http://a296.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_c5fef95b7f90aebe65d91f4708c38ccf.jpg

[Viggs]

viggs: did you get that trans off of someone else who has done a 2j swap in a 240sx because if you want better shifter placement with the supra trans that s-bend is required. I'll get a pic in a sec. Also that is why the soarer trans requires no shifter extension for great placement because it is extended from the factory. This raises the question of whether or not you can use the stock soarer shifter unit? I'm gonna do some research on that one.

My motorset is straight out of JDM land. Maybe it came out of a 240sx there, but not likely. Everything looks factory, no welds or anything. If your asking if you can use just replace the supra shifter setup with the soarer extended shifter linkage the answer is no, the tailhousings are different on the two transmissions. One has a place to bolt the soarer shifter supports and the other does not. Just look at the pics I posted for a couple minutes. You will see what I'm talking about. I thought the same thing once.

[turtle m3th]

My motorset is straight out of JDM land. Maybe it came out of a 240sx there, but not likely. Everything looks factory, no welds or anything. If your asking if you can use just replace the supra shifter setup with the soarer extended shifter linkage the answer is no, the tailhousings are different on the two transmissions. One has a place to bolt the soarer shifter supports and the other does not. Just look at the pics I posted for a couple minutes. You will see what I'm talking about. I thought the same thing once.

I see what you are saying. The lower support brackets are not what concerned me, it's the actual flange to the tranny shifter opening. If this is a direct bolt on then a bracket for the supports could be fabbed up. otherwise here is a link of a shifter extension thread so save some people some money.
Also viggs, if you could do you mind trying a test fit for me? or taking pictures of both of the assemblies side by side, as in the internal portion which goes into the tranny, and the flanges?

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413913&highlight=r154+weakness

[Viggs]

I don't have both transmissions though?? I'm not sure I understand. I think your asking me to put a soarer shifter on my trans right?

[turtle m3th]

Yeah, thats what i was asking. As long as it would bolt up to it and as long as the input was the same for both shifter assemblies I don't see why new supports couldn't be made to make this work.

After looking at the trannies a little bit closer it looks possible as long as the input shafts are the same. and as far as the supports go you can just change the arm up slighty and just bolt it up in this location which is on both the supra tranny and the soarer one.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii68/aVIKISS/trannymods.jpg

This image is a flipped one of the above image you've already posted.
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii68/aVIKISS/another.jpg

or just weld a bolt here where the stock location would be on the soarer tranny
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii68/aVIKISS/another-1.jpg

[Viggs]

Yeah I would do it, but where am I going to get a soarer shifter from?

[turtle m3th]

Yeah I would do it, but where am I going to get a soarer shifter from?

???? but if you could find one I guaran-damn-tee you that it will be much cheaper than a shifter extension from tech2 would be! I'll search for you too if you want, cause i would like to know myself.

[Viggs]

That flipped image that you have of that r154 is a trans that I used to have. You got that pic off of supraforums. I know it, because I posted it. lol. I could just weld up the extension. lol. But I don't know if I will need it or not? I haven't dumped the motor in yet, I'm waiting on a Spec stage 3 to arrive and If you haven't noticed my location...Buffalo. Its cold. But I will do it this week I promise. I will just roll some of the crap out of my garage, fire up the kerosene heater and get to work next to eleanor.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/Iceman1151/Stang.jpg
:bigok:

[soon2bs13]

i love the pics!! keep us updated...

[slideways2004]

wow. finally lots of good detailed info being posted. so with teh tech 2 shifter extension on a mk3 supra tranny, the shifter will fit nicely into the s chassis factory shifter hole?

[Viggs]

wow. finally lots of good detailed info being posted. so with teh tech 2 shifter extension on a mk3 supra tranny, the shifter will fit nicely into the s chassis factory shifter hole?
Yeah, but with the tech2 kit. With custom mounts comes a custom extension. The tech 2 mod may be close enough though.

[turtle m3th]

^ yup yup! I wanna see if i can figure out this soarer shifter thing though, because if you we can source them then I think it's problem solved with an oem part on the cheap! scrambling around as we speak. keep everyone posted.

[Acidz]

that tranny extension will be really hard to find!! when i did the 2JZ swap i went with TDF engine mounts which were up there in price as the swap was still new to the market!

tech 2 makes a great kit & drew is an awesome guy to deal with, but i just bought the mounts for my swap before i found out about the whole tech 2 swap kit.

also regarding that shifter extension thats to fit a mk4 which is almost the same thing as a 240 just isnt as long! regardless thou same idea

[Acidz]

if i was to ever do the swap again & knew how to fab up mounts or other things with a welder or a tig then thats the way to go save urself a lot of $$$, but if money isnt the game and its time then just buy a kit simple drop in and connect everything...

regardless thou the swap by no means is simple even if someone was to buy everything from tech 2....if someone is lookin to do the swap as simple as 1 2 3 then just buy everything from tech 2 & also buy the dvd they sell to swap the motor in....

That dvd is also balls lol it would of helped a lot when i was doing my swap LOL would of saved so many sleepless nights lol!!

[ruckus-racing]

^^^^
Thats odd,do you know exactly what engine set you have?....soarer,chaser,markIII,supraim not really sure but from the tranny pics on this thread it looks like its from a supra. now another question. to make this kit cheaper. if you take the mounts comming down from the engine off of a 1jz will they fit on a 2jz?

[240sx2jz]

screw the 154, the v160 is where its at :D. im happy i used the 6spd its definaely worth the extra work. still kinda suprised more people havent used it

[turtle m3th]

screw the 154, the v160 is where its at :D. im happy i used the 6spd its definaely worth the extra work. still kinda suprised more people havent used it


haha, because most off us are broke asses that drive 240's. It would be nice though...

[Zilvia4eva]

screw the 154, the v160 is where its at :D. im happy i used the 6spd its definaely worth the extra work. still kinda suprised more people havent used it

Yeah sure if I had an extra 4k to spend on a V160 getrag and clutch kit,I would do it in a heart beat.

FYI:the r154 is more than enough for S-chassis....just spend your money on a j30,Z32 TT or Skyline rear end....should be able to top out between 180-195mph with that setup.:x:

[Zilvia4eva]

im not really sure but from the tranny pics on this thread it looks like its from a supra. now another question. to make this kit cheaper. if you take the mounts comming down from the engine off of a 1jz will they fit on a 2jz?

make sure you fab this kit with the stock twins like tech2 did...some guys will end up running stock twin turbo setups and fitment is a little different...stock rear turbo will hit the fire wall if placed to far back + you wont be able to run the heater lines to the firewall with TT setup in most cases.

[240sx2jz]

i went with the pathfinder diff/ 350z diff and made a new rear subframe instead of hacking up the old one.

[turtle m3th]

^damn! sounds like you've got skrilla! do you care to post any pics?

[240sx2jz]

yea sure here you guys go these pics are from the early stages of the subframe i haven't taken any pics of hte finished product but im sure you get the idea.
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3808/topviewoi5.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=topviewoi5.jpg)

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1836/thetaskrp4.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thetaskrp4.jpg)

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/179/rearendza8.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rearendza8.jpg)

[slideways2004]

now that is what i call fabrication. i think everybody doing this swap should ditch the twins and go single.

p.s. what kind of managment is available for this motor? i have seen the PFC but it was listed for the chaser which means VVti. can that work on the regular non-vvti 1jz?

[CKAMC]

people run the greddy ultimate and have no problems with it.

its not the same as when you hook it up to a nissan ecu... toyota ecu's have a massive/crazy daughter board to start with.

or stand alone management like haltech is always a good choice.

[Zilvia4eva]

I have a buddy making 480wrhp with a GT4088 with a afc2,USDM mk4 550cc injectors,walbro pump....on pump

the emanage or map ecu2 would be a better alternative if you are on a budget...timing control,ignition,and injector control...etc all for around $600

[slideways2004]

oh yeah, i heard map ecu was pretty popular with the supra camp

[ruckus-racing]

make sure you fab this kit with the stock twins like tech2 did...some guys will end up running stock twin turbo setups and fitment is a little different...stock rear turbo will hit the fire wall if placed to far back + you wont be able to run the heater lines to the firewall with TT setup in most cases.well i have my design all made up im sending some cad drawings to the laser cutting co i go threw. the way i have designed it, the engine sets about 1in off the fire way that way you can use the heater core. You will have to take out the rubber boot on the lower line and cut down the stem. that way the hose is more in the fire wall, so wen it comes out it can reroute to the side and clear the rear turbo. i'll post up some pics of them later tonight or tomorrow.

[yeung22]

That flipped image that you have of that r154 is a trans that I used to have. You got that pic off of supraforums. I know it, because I posted it. lol. I could just weld up the extension. lol. But I don't know if I will need it or not? I haven't dumped the motor in yet, I'm waiting on a Spec stage 3 to arrive and If you haven't noticed my location...Buffalo. Its cold. But I will do it this week I promise. I will just roll some of the crap out of my garage, fire up the kerosene heater and get to work next to eleanor.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/Iceman1151/Stang.jpg
:bigok:

It's Elenor!!! Love both cars! Man someone's rolling in the money.

[meet07]

I too should be starting this project in the next month or 2. I was going to buy the kit and get my wiring done but I may try to do it all myself. I just bought a generator and probe that may make the job eaisier. I mean.......I could buy the materials for what?? 100 bucks and a lincoln 175hd welder for anouther 400-600 bucks.
But what about the driveshaft??? Is there someone that makes just the shaft or do I need to find a motor with a yoke??

[Zilvia4eva]

well i have my design all made up im sending some cad drawings to the laser cutting co i go threw. the way i have designed it, the engine sets about 1in off the fire way that way you can use the heater core. You will have to take out the rubber boot on the lower line and cut down the stem. that way the hose is more in the fire wall, so wen it comes out it can reroute to the side and clear the rear turbo. i'll post up some pics of them later tonight or tomorrow.

Sounds good bro....Also I believe the S13/s14 driveshafts are gonna be different length...so you might have to make one for each chassis,correct?

whats the estimated time before you have these ready?

I may want first dibs...;)

[turtle m3th]

I too should be starting this project in the next month or 2. I was going to buy the kit and get my wiring done but I may try to do it all myself. I just bought a generator and probe that may make the job eaisier. I mean.......I could buy the materials for what?? 100 bucks and a lincoln 175hd welder for anouther 400-600 bucks.
But what about the driveshaft??? Is there someone that makes just the shaft or do I need to find a motor with a yoke??

you should be able to able to purchase the drive shaft from tech2 and use that because the motor can really only sit in one position.

[ruckus-racing]

Sounds good bro....Also I believe the S13/s14 driveshafts are gonna be different length...so you might have to make one for each chassis,correct?

whats the estimated time before you have these ready?

I may want first dibs...;)yeh s14 shaft will be slightly longer. est time for selling, shooting for middle of next week. also before i catch shit from anyone i will be setting up a vendor acct.

[meet07]

are all 1jz-gte pinouts on the ecu the same??? Im leaning towards a soarer engine/tranny set and im sure if I need to find the info for the MkIII,Soarer or what??? :confused:

[turtle m3th]

^ you might be better off asking this on a toyota forum.

[kickertu]

this is alot of good info fellas!
i just sold my sr20, and am purchasing a 2j this week!
i was going to try the notch sub frame first. if that doesnt work, a buddie of mine will weld up some new mounts. i think im gong to eliminate the ABS in my s14 as well.


Im voting to start an AIM list of people doing the swap.
My aim is kickertu
that shoudl help with little questions if they are needed!

[Viggs]

I suppose a AIM thing would be good for fast answers and help. Iceman1151 is my SN

[slideways2004]

anybody that's doing the swap, gonna drift their car?? not like an event or two, but something serious like at least pro-am or something

[SlideWell]

this is my basic knowledge of the swap...;)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a196/PearlWhiteS14/1126845937_l-1.jpg

[turtle m3th]

I'll have to hop on aim then cause I only have msn. That would make things a bit more snappy.

[eastcoastS14]

this is my basic knowledge of the swap...;)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a196/PearlWhiteS14/1126845937_l-1.jpg


hahahahahaha sick...is that direct port NAS on the left??

[Zilvia4eva]

Any updates on the kit......:2f2f:

[Deftec]

I just ordered my kit from a guy off 2jzswap.com that was abandoning his swap. Can't wait!!!

[nissans14k]

ive seen on the forums how people build their own shifter exstention for the toyota supra r154 tranny.. i have the actual directions for yall DIY. i am attepting the swap as well with my 1jz. ill do a writup on the information i got and see if i can help yall out here.

[Deftec]

PM me the directions for the shifter extension...

[Zilvia4eva]

No need to fab up an extension.....If you are willing to wait a little longer you can get the geniune Toyota extended pieces for about $76 from Carson Toyota.....read on

http://www.clubna-t.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5655

:cool:

[nissans14k]

oh kool.. i haddnt seen that before

[Viggs]

You might even get lucky and find a early model soarer r154....like I did.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s74/Iceman1151/myr154.jpg

[turtle m3th]

awsome find zilvia4eva!!!

[Zilvia4eva]

No problem guys....doing extensive research helps in the long run,plus it will save alot headaches and money.

Glad I can help.....more info to come.:2f2f:

[Viggs]

I think that Ruckus racing finished the mounts. Thats why they have a set for sale on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1jzgte-2jzgte-240sx-swap-mounts-1jz-2jz-s13-s14_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50454QQihZ011QQitem Z320219945858QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

I just compared them to my mounts for my 1jz....and I'm not convinced that they would fit BOTH a 1jz and a 2jz. The bolt pattern looks different where the mounts bolt to the block. I don't know if Ruckus can confirm them fitting a 1jz or not.

[ruckus-racing]

thats fair. but let me say what i have researched, on both the 1jz and the 2jz were the factory mounts bolt to the block. there are 6 mounting points on both sides. My engine used the front mounting holes. this is why i said in an earlier post that it looked to be more than just slotting the crossmember. After looking at the oem 2jz mounts the intake side used the rear holes which are a smaller bolt pattern between the 4 mounting holes. although the oem 2jz mounts set alittle closer to the 240sx crossmember, the angle of mounts are still off. i used the bolt patterns from a 2jz on my mounts and they fit on my 1jz in our track car. here are some pics of the two engines and the mounting holes

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1/Altezzagal/motor003.jpghttp://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTefey5rxHT_YA6UajzbkF/SIG=130m9ussv/EXP=1203648562/**http%3A//www.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/albums/album01/EngineLHside.sized.jpg (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1/Altezzagal/motor003.jpghttp://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTefey5rxHT_YA6UajzbkF/SIG=130m9ussv/EXP=1203648562/**http%3A//www.lexusownersclub.com/gallery/albums/album01/EngineLHside.sized.jpg)

sorry i dont know how to post pics on here. but if you look at the pics you can see what i mean. on the 1jz there is a fuel regulator of filter bolted on the rear mount holes

[Viggs]

Wow I never noticed those additional mounting points before. :duh:

[ruckus-racing]

Wow I never noticed those additional mounting points before. :duh:hey its ok i completed my mounts then realized it so i redesigned them to fit both 1 and 2j

[kickertu]

do you have pics of a motor sitting int he car with your mounts? obviously your mounts are the cheapest ones out, so you will probably sell alot of them as long as they fit well!
I am currently debating on what mounts to go with.
TDF, tech 2, rukus, or just slotting the xmember and trying it myself.


anyone tried rukus's mounts?

[ruckus-racing]

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=179015
there are pics on here

[txredxj]

were these ever finished?i would really like to get some. i am using the auto tranny and just need the mounts and tech2 wont give me just the parts. if you have these ready i am ready to buy. its a 2jz in a s14

[nasx]

Seems like the Ruckus mounts have vanished maybe they needed further development.

[InlineS13]

PM me if you're interested in custom 1JZ and 2JZ mounts. Designed and tested on both mine and my brother's cars. We can also get custom driveshafts made.