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niberlin
01-29-2008, 01:16 AM
I just found these lights, and they look like a good replacement for the original lights.

http://www.clearcorners.com/products/cibie/
A little down on the page:

$130/pair Cibié 165mm High-Efficiency Headlamps
http://www.clearcorners.com/products/cibie/tmb_165HCR_01.jpg http://www.clearcorners.com/products/cibie/tmb_165HR_01.jpg
Low/High (H4) High (H1)


We are pleased to offer a full line of Cibié-brand products. Cibié is made by Valeo of France, a company dedicated to offering premium quality lighting products for the automotive tuner industry.

Cibié's e-code (ECE) headlamps use advanced optics to emit a very wide and powerful lighting pattern, with a crisp and highly distinct cutoff line. Hands down, these are quite possibly the best e-code headlamps we have ever worked with. While the Cibié-brand products are a bit more expensive than competing brands, Cibié's superior build quality, performance and safety benefits certainly outweigh the additional cost.


Have anyone tried these? Does anyone got a picture of the lights/beam and cutoff?

projekt_s13
01-29-2008, 01:21 AM
The owner of that site is a member here on zilvia, His username is ixfxi.

Those are top notch, he should chime in any time now.

You should try searching since this has been covered before.

Look through herem there is alot of info and pictures about headlights.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=164409

!Zar!
01-29-2008, 01:24 AM
Best shit ever.


Nothing else needs to be posted.

sleepy_s13
01-29-2008, 01:24 AM
they are supposedly the best h4 headlight housings you can buy. If your going to spend the money get those or the Hella E-codes.

HyperTek
01-29-2008, 01:25 AM
yah clearcorners is legit, unfortinutly i never purchased from them. but very quality stuff. =p

mike should do a group buy on here

niberlin
01-29-2008, 01:30 AM
Sound great!!
And they are total legal in europe? Bolt on i suppose?

eastcoastS14
01-29-2008, 01:35 AM
lights are expensive as fuck....kouki projectors are like $1500+ but you gotta pay to play i guess...then pray no one steals your car haha

drift freaq
01-29-2008, 01:39 AM
lights are expensive as fuck....kouki projectors are like $1500+ but you gotta pay to play i guess...then pray no one steals your car haha

If you took the time to research the lights you would realize they are not your run of the mill projectors at that price.
Mike does serious upgrade work to all his lighting setups that go way beyond the crap other people sell.
Those Cibie's the OP posted are very good for the money.

P.S. I said this before have you looked at your sig? Its rather gay.

CKAMC
01-29-2008, 01:41 AM
mike hasn't been active since the 6th...

they are USDOT legal so I cannot see why they wont fly in Europe....

kandyflip445
01-29-2008, 01:45 AM
Bought some Hella E-codes from Mike a few years back. He sells good stuff. He might be a little harsh to n00bs here, but he know's his shit.

soreballz
01-29-2008, 01:47 AM
mike hasn't been active since the 6th...



He was pinked... I'm not sure if he knows that it was lifted already. lol

Cibie ftw.

sleepy_s13
01-29-2008, 01:56 AM
theres some pics with the cibie cut-off in this thread.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=152663&highlight=xenith

niberlin
01-29-2008, 02:08 AM
Wow! That is an improvement!
And they are bolt on?

soreballz
01-29-2008, 02:11 AM
Yeah. Bolt-on/plug-in.

niberlin
01-29-2008, 02:15 AM
Wow! I am so going to buy those!

Sorry for asking much, but what is the difference between 165mm and 200mm?

sleepy_s13
01-29-2008, 02:23 AM
just size. I believe the s13 needs the 200mm.

adrians_s13
01-29-2008, 02:25 AM
I have them... they're great, but not intended for HID's.

here's some pics.

no lights
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1176/1283038667_3bdc195e91.jpg

city lights
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1391/1283039373_19d00fec8b.jpg

regular headlights
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1331/1283040195_f779f61328.jpg

high beams
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1068/1283903144_0b8a71aec6.jpg




no lights
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1203/1283034451_10a033da91.jpg

City Lights
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1059/1283035477_b07b066029.jpg

Headlights
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1124/1283898538_6a317acb7f.jpg

High Beams
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1270/1283899752_d562c2f3c4.jpg

sleepy_s13
01-29-2008, 02:27 AM
^^^^^What bulbs are you using?

adrians_s13
01-29-2008, 02:36 AM
^^^^^What bulbs are you using?

Narvas.


msglength

niberlin
01-29-2008, 03:22 AM
Do i need to order bulbs with the lights? Or would you recommend it?

SoSideways
01-29-2008, 08:36 AM
Do i need to order bulbs with the lights? Or would you recommend it?

I don't think the housings come with light bulbs, so you're going to have to order them anyway.

pinkarrowsnow
01-29-2008, 08:57 AM
Yeah I have that same question what bulbs can be recommended with these housings?

Vision Garage
01-29-2008, 10:27 AM
just ask mike when you order from him. It all depends on how much light you need and how much money you got since he has competition lights, regular and some above norm bulbs.

Rob's S14
01-29-2008, 10:41 AM
You can't go wrong buying from Mike. I've been to his office and he's got quality stuff.

Bushido
01-29-2008, 11:44 AM
ifixi's got good products, but a shitty elitist attitude.

xkamikazestormx
01-29-2008, 12:21 PM
they are supposedly the best h4 headlight housings you can buy. If your going to spend the money get those or the Hella E-codes.

get cibies. they are a lot better than hellas.

mike hasn't been active since the 6th...

they are USDOT legal so I cannot see why they wont fly in Europe....

wrong. these are not dot legal. they are ece spec (Europe)

Yeah I have that same question what bulbs can be recommended with these housings?

i bought these from a mike about 2 years ago. he recommended me the narva +50 bulbs. these were a great upgrade from stock oem sealed lamps. dont trust me? ask adrian since i sold the cibies to him after i went the silvia front route.

Pank
01-29-2008, 12:25 PM
ifixi's got good products, but a shitty elitist attitude.

thats what happens when you make some of the literal BEST lighting products.

I wouldn't be surprised if his real name is daniel stern

D1GP
01-29-2008, 12:34 PM
Yeah I have that same question what bulbs can be recommended with these housings?

osram ultra premium bulbs. best bulbs you can get without needing to upgrade your wiring harness.

murda-c
01-29-2008, 01:33 PM
ifixi's got good products, but a shitty elitist attitude.

does get a bit annoying every once in a while.

SoSideways
01-29-2008, 01:51 PM
does get a bit annoying every once in a while.

I'm sure he feels the same way about the tards that come on here and ask 20 questions about which HID H4 drop in kit they should get, and if 6000k is better or is 12,000k better.

exitspeed
01-29-2008, 01:57 PM
thats what happens when you make some of the literal BEST lighting products.




That's not why his attitude sucks. It's cause he's trying to sell the BEST lighting to the biggest low ball community in the world. :keke:

But no doubt about it, his products are top notch.

ManoNegra
01-29-2008, 03:16 PM
lol... Mike's got a great attitude. All who have met him can attest to it.

2iv0 sx
01-29-2008, 03:59 PM
Cibies looks amazing adrian man!

I want me some

inertiaticism
01-30-2008, 10:17 AM
does get a bit annoying every once in a while.
If there aren't a few assholes around to make them fear swift and immediate reprisal, idiots have a tendency to multiply.
Assholes are a necessary evil on the internet.

firelizard
01-30-2008, 11:10 AM
wrong. these are not dot legal. they are ece spec (Europe)
If they meet DOT standards they're DOT legal.
I bet they meet DOT standards.

SoSideways
01-30-2008, 11:15 AM
If they meet DOT standards they're DOT legal.
I bet they meet DOT standards.

The ECE headlights aren't DOT approved, thus not DOT legal.

I believe the reason is because the DOT wants to see a flat cut off on the right and not a flare, much like the S2000's cut off, whereas the ECE headlights have a flared cut off on the right.

Flared = ECE = ___/

Flat = DOT = ___/----- (ASCII drawing on 1 line, sucks, but you get my point)

inertiaticism
01-30-2008, 11:24 AM
Not sure if any of the inspection people in other states care, but I ran E-codes on my VWs for years and never flunked inspection.
I know I sure didn't fail cars for Ecodes when I inspected cars.
Just make sure they are aligned right and maybe nobody will notice they aren't DOT spec in inspection.

xkamikazestormx
01-30-2008, 11:26 AM
If they meet DOT standards they're DOT legal.
I bet they meet DOT standards.

do you not know what a ece standard is. ece standards dont met dot standards :duh:

The ECE headlights aren't DOT approved, thus not DOT legal.

I believe the reason is because the DOT wants to see a flat cut off on the right and not a flare, much like the S2000's cut off, whereas the ECE headlights have a flared cut off on the right.

Flared = ECE = ___/

Flat = DOT = ___/----- (ASCII drawing on 1 line, sucks, but you get my point)

correct.

dot cutoff (thanks to hidplanet.com) (s2000)
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTA4NTM3NDZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

ece cut off (on my silvia front end, using bosch e46 ece projectors
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/kamikazestorm420/P1010420.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/kamikazestorm420/P1010422.jpg

notice it flares to the right compared to the s2000. sorry, the pics are blurry and it sucks, and my passenger side projector i forgot to color mod but they both produce a blueish purple colorband now.

drift freaq
01-30-2008, 11:52 AM
ifixi's got good products, but a shitty elitist attitude.

Mike does not so much have an elitist attitude as he is a perfectionist. He won't settle for average and garbage. He likes to see things done right the first time. Thats not elitist its smart.
He also gets tired of dumb asses that want to cheap out on poor quality lighting because Joe get you a deal is having a group buy on Chinese knock off crap.
On top of that Joe get you a deal tries to argue lighting with him based on that Chinese knock off crap. You call that a elitist attitude. I call it a intolerance for poor quality and stupid decisions.

Mike knows more about lighting than most of us could hope to know in our lifetimes. Is he a little arrogant for it? Only when idiots start trying to push his buttons and spout bullshit.
Does he like to stir shit up for the sake of stirring shit up sometimes for amusement in other subject matter? Well ya, but that goes for a lot of Zilvians. Not elitist, maybe troublemaker. lol.

Oh wait, I bet you will say I have an elitist attitude as well? As some of the more clueless people on the forum assume, the minute you start being able to argue points with facts and carry knowledge in your bag and are willing to share it. Funny how the less knowledgeable are quick to label when they cannot fight.

bigOdom1
01-30-2008, 11:58 AM
church



hate, hate, hate, hate, hate

axiomatik
01-30-2008, 01:15 PM
The Cibie's and Hella E-codes are not DOT compliant. Hella sells a line called "Vision Plus" which is similar to the E-codes, but *is* DOT compliant. This link explains the differences between E-code and DOT:

http://www.rallylights.com/useful_info/Vision_Plus.htm

firelizard
01-30-2008, 02:10 PM
The ECE headlights aren't DOT approved, thus not DOT legal.

I believe the reason is because the DOT wants to see a flat cut off on the right and not a flare, much like the S2000's cut off, whereas the ECE headlights have a flared cut off on the right.

Flared = ECE = ___/

Flat = DOT = ___/----- (ASCII drawing on 1 line, sucks, but you get my point)

Gotcha. +rep for info I didn't bother looking up

Pank
01-30-2008, 04:24 PM
The ECE headlights aren't DOT approved, thus not DOT legal.

I believe the reason is because the DOT wants to see a flat cut off on the right and not a flare, much like the S2000's cut off, whereas the ECE headlights have a flared cut off on the right.

Flared = ECE = ___/

Flat = DOT = ___/----- (ASCII drawing on 1 line, sucks, but you get my point)

There is no such thing as "DOT Approved"

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/bad/bad.html

eastcoastS14
01-30-2008, 04:28 PM
If you took the time to research the lights you would realize they are not your run of the mill projectors at that price.
Mike does serious upgrade work to all his lighting setups that go way beyond the crap other people sell.
Those Cibie's the OP posted are very good for the money.

P.S. I said this before have you looked at your sig? Its rather gay.

i realize that....i was just commenting on the price, which is a given tho since they are super high quality

and yes i have looked at my sig....its not rather gay....its very fucking gay

louisdaboois
01-30-2008, 04:36 PM
these h4 conversion lamps are very very high quality. honestly, worth every penny. these came with the car when i bought my s13, broke one when i hit a deer and wasnt baller enough to pony up the money to get another set.... i'll forever kick myself in the ass. anyway, these are legit.

Bushido
01-30-2008, 04:39 PM
didn't realize that clearcorners mike had so many of you riding his dick.

eds13
01-30-2008, 05:01 PM
15,000k is obviously the best choice.

Pank
01-30-2008, 05:28 PM
15,000k is obviously the best choice.

I've already converted my tail lights over to clusters of laser pointers from officemax

hah, almost every person on this page is premie

drift freaq
01-30-2008, 05:48 PM
didn't realize that clearcorners mike had so many of you riding his dick.

Riding his dick? God, I so did not want have to say this, but your ignorant . You are just worthless and cannot even back up what you say. Proving to us once again that you really do not know much.


P.S. He has also done work on some of my headlights for my projects and you cannot find that kind of work anywhere. So unless you can do work like he can, you might as well just shut the fuck up because your spouting nonsense.