QR - what do you use?

[hellaflush]

hey guys

yes i searched so dont hate... i swear i recalled a recent QR thread over the last 4-6 weeks but cant find it

im in the market for a QR - i want something with a slim design - i see some which have large paddles and its just :faint:

i was keen as and have been for 2 months on an aworks gunmetal qr - however aworks are being asshats so im gonna look elsewhere

what are the difference between all the nrg version qr's etc?

anyone got pics of theirs installed? i like the design of the aworks one

will be using a nardi on it so..

cheers guys :wiggle:

[LongGrain]

i have an aworks gunmetal one and i love it!

[hellaflush]

sell it to me or ill rip your head off and shit down your neck

jks :)

[s13gold]

i will sell u my nrg and i will get a works bell.
LOL.

Works Bell FTW. im getting mine when income tax check rollllls in!!!!!!!

[S13Boosts]

aworks... i polished that bitch!!!:keke: whats good? NRG, if you wanna go balllin get a worksbell!

[tknbkthrsdy4anfg]

Works Bell. nothing but the best from Aspec, not aworks.

[A Spec Products]

http://www.rogansan.com/delete/240sx/interior03.jpg

I use Works Bell Rapfix II (steering wheel is no name brand Japan wheel, with Nardi horn button)

Hub is Works Bell Short Hub for S13

Obviously I'm biased, but even before I had Works Bell I saved up and bought the Signal Auto quick release (discontinued now, the awesome CNC'ed one) at FULL POP from Signal...was like $310 out the door?

I didn't even haggle, I knew what I wanted and paid what it cost. Didn't regret that purchase at all

But to each his own, each person has a different budget and criteria, and that's all good in the hood

[hellaflush]

if i was gonna go worksbell id go signal

still got your signal one aspec?

[adrians_s13]

I have an Aworks... its a bootleg works bell, LOL

but for $30 you really can't complain

[Kamburrito]

well i'm runnin with a peakperformance QR with a NRG shorthub ..it fits a nardi perfect.. works perfect for me .. and it looks good too .. no problems ... here's how it looks on my car
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w82/k1llaxkam/IMAGE_00183.jpg

[A Spec Products]

if i was gonna go worksbell id go signal

still got your signal one aspec?

Actually, Works Bell does not manufacture the current Signal Auto quick release.

I sold my original Signal quick release a couple years ago.

http://www.rogansan.com/delete/quickrelease02.jpg

Here's the og Signal quick release I had

This thing was cool looking and worked well

[gotta240]

kinda dumb question, but i've been thinking of getting a QR as well, and nows the best time for the question.


With an NRG QR, do i need anything other than my steering wheel? Do i need the QR AND an AFTERMARKET HUB? I kinda thought it was all built together, but then i saw something called a "short hub"?



Also, what makes works bell better than NRG? Please be specific and not use descriptive terms that a middle schooler would use such as "shits better cause its baller!". Is it a SAFETY issue, or just looks? Thanks!!!!

[LongGrain]

kinda dumb question, but i've been thinking of getting a QR as well, and nows the best time for the question.


With an NRG QR, do i need anything other than my steering wheel? Do i need the QR AND an AFTERMARKET HUB? I kinda thought it was all built together, but then i saw something called a "short hub"?



Also, what makes works bell better than NRG? Please be specific and not use descriptive terms that a middle schooler would use such as "shits better cause its baller!". Thanks!!!!

you need a hub, quick release, and steering wheel...


been asked 10000000 times..

[hellaflush]

aspec - i should have used some grammar in my post... what i meant was price wise if i was going to fork out for a works bell i would buy a signal

[A Spec Products]

With an NRG QR, do i need anything other than my steering wheel? Do i need the QR AND an AFTERMARKET HUB? I kinda thought it was all built together, but then i saw something called a "short hub"?


As Long Grain stated, you need at least:

Steering wheel
Steering wheel hub

The quick release is NOT a necessity, and is an optional piece. Your main concern is that you need to make sure that the hub has the same pattern as your steering wheel you are buying (for example Momo pattern is different than Nardi).


Also, what makes works bell better than NRG? Please be specific and not use descriptive terms that a middle schooler would use such as "shits better cause its baller!". Is it a SAFETY issue, or just looks? Thanks!!!!

Works Bell is the originator of all of the quick release products you're familiar with. They are THE premier steering wheel performance in Japan, and private label for companies you might be familiar with such as: FET, Splash, etc.

Works Bell produces using the highest quality control, processes, and materials, while copy companies seem to make a product that appears similiar, but cuts corners in order to lower their cost and make a cheaper product.

The Works Bell Rapfix II, specifically, uses a machined body made of forged aluminum, and also utilizes Works Bell "Ball Lock" technology, which insures solid, precise locking, with no play.

Convincing a skeptic of why Works Bell is better than their imitators is not an easy task, since visually the imitations appear the same. It is most DEFINITELY a SAFETY issue, however, when using products others than authentic Works Bell.

Works Bell has been certified by NAPAC (Nippon Auto Parts Aftermarket Community), a materials standards company for aftermarket products in Japan.

In order to meet these standards, Works Bell has conducted extensive testing on their products before releasing them to market. As an example (on the Rapfix II), specific radial tests were conducted with live loads of close to 300 N/m, and a bending test with over 200 N/m. In addition, repeated tests (10,000 test instances) on the same test subject item resulted in no deformity or change in shape.

I could go on about more specific data that supports Works Bell's commitment to safety, but I don't want to bore anyone with technical data. In short, this is what Works Bell does, and I'm quite certain that their imitators do nothing of the sort.

Here is an example of how a COPY company has chose to cut corners:

An imitation company copied a lock from Works Bell. The problem is that, they copied ONE lock from Works Bell. As a result, one key will open any copy lock. Interesting isn't it? That's what happens when a copy company cuts corners and copies only ONE lock.

With Works Bell's current 25+ existing key combinations, it makes it highly improbable that a potential thief might have the same key. Compare this to only one key for copy locks, and its obvious who you'd feel safer using.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone for using imitations, and that's totally fine, as you have the choice to use what fits your taste and budget.

Hopefully this addresses your concerns appropriately.

[gotta240]

That is one of the best and most informative/mature posts i've EVER seen on zilvia. Sincerely, thank you.

Couple more questions if you dont mind?

1. How to you "release" the wheel on either a works or cheaper nrg? Is there ever ANY concern of them "releasing" while driving?(cheap or expensive)

The lock you mention... WHat does it lock? Does it lock the wheel to the hub, or cover the hub so another wheel cant go on?

thanks again and excuse my newbness with this.

[murda-c]

That is one of the best and most informative/mature posts i've EVER seen on zilvia. Sincerely, thank you.

Couple more questions if you dont mind?

1. How to you "release" the wheel on either a works or cheaper nrg? Is there ever ANY concern of them "releasing" while driving?(cheap or expensive)

The lock you mention... WHat does it lock? Does it lock the wheel to the hub, or cover the hub so another wheel cant go on?

thanks again and excuse my newbness with this.

There is a lip on the QR that you pull back towards you and it retracts the balls holding the QR on.

And the lock covers the hub so other wheels can't get on.

It is also smooth so it's hard to just clamp a wrench onto it and turn the wheel.

[unwed_transient]

i use the wb rapfix II.

bought from logan.

i've used an nrg and some no name japanese brand a long time ago.

i won't be changing it for a long time.

[gotta240]

So you guys with nrg or expensive brands dont worry about the wheel just "coming off" while driving? Ever had a close call by not putting it on correctly?

Stupid questions...but i'm paranoid about steering wheels falling off while driving...lol.

[Dousan_PG]

only close call i hav eis when bored i spin the wheel hahaha
while im driving
shits fun
but haha
yeah.


im gotta get a WB one
i got some shitty as knckoff one for a few years
gotta grease it up every once and awihle.
annoying.

[yudalicious]

As amazing as ASpec and Logan are, I went with the NRG V2 (of course I got the wheel from Logan). I did alot of searching on other forums and the general consensus of the NRG is that they get the job done on and off the track, no failures that I know of. To put my opinion into perspective, I've never used one of the more expensive QRs, but the NRG so far has served me very well, no noticeable play.

[Addicted2Kouki]

i got an nrg 2.5.

it does its job, easy to take off because you dont have to push the button like the older ones.

no $$$$ for a ballin works bell.


they design quick releases to stay on. I have never heard of one coming off unintentionally.

[azndoc]

Damn... Logan be breaking it down for people.

Class in session.

I think I know which brand he's talking about too since some of my friends have the same thing and complain about the key issue.

I have a FET one and I've never had a problem of the steering wheel coming off during driving in the two years I've had it.

[gotta240]

Cool. Thanks for all the replies and patience...lol.


i'm such a newb...

[Bushido]

whats the deal with hub locks?

[A Spec Products]

That is one of the best and most informative/mature posts i've EVER seen on zilvia. Sincerely, thank you.

Couple more questions if you dont mind?

1. How to you "release" the wheel on either a works or cheaper nrg? Is there ever ANY concern of them "releasing" while driving?(cheap or expensive)

The lock you mention... WHat does it lock? Does it lock the wheel to the hub, or cover the hub so another wheel cant go on?

thanks again and excuse my newbness with this.

No problem, I understand that the Rapfix II isn't for everyone, but at the same time I want people to understand that with their reputation and price comes functionality and true research + testing. This is NOT meant for show use, but rather is purpose build for motorsports (if you look at all top D1 drivers, they all use Works Bell, as well as other top racing machines built in Japan).

Here is more info on the Rapfix II from Works Bell's English site:

http://www.worksbell.co.jp/en/products/rapfix/

Within that page they describe the differences and improvements from the original Rapfix I and the new Rapfix II.

In regards to your questions:

1. On the Rapfix II, there is a loaded button which you press, then pull the collar back to release the quick release from locked position. There is no way to have this come off during driving.

An an optional piece, you can purchase a Rapfix Flipper, which actually works as a mechanism to push the button for you (in a sense) as you pull back on it, making it one sweeping motion to release the quick release. Again, there is no way for this to come off during driving.

Here's is how the Rapfix Flipper would work:
http://www.worksbell.co.jp/products/rapfix/img/flipper_01.jpg

If you look closely, there is a little button on the top of the body of the quick release, which the Flipper is sliding over. If you didn't have that Flipper, you would need to depress the button yourself and pull back on the collar. The Flipper attaches to the outside of the collar, via allen screws.

2. The Rapfix II lock slides over the hub side of the Rapfix II quick release, when the steering wheel side of the release is removed. See here:

http://www.worksbell.co.jp/products/rapfix/img/image_keylock_souchaku.jpg

It locks over the hub side of the quick release, so no one can put on a steering wheel and drive away, nor can anyone remove your hub, and put on a new hub then put on a steering wheel and drive away. Essentially this immobilizes the car and adds security value. Keep in mind that this is a deterrant, not a guarantee. Your car could still be stolen via flat bed, tow truck, etc.

Hopefully that clarifies it. Anyone is more than welcome to stop by and test out and try the products from Works Bell. It doesn't matter to me whether or not you buy them, but I'd rather everyone be aware of what the real item is made to feel and work like.

[silviaguy240]

i got a Nardi Rally sport deep corn with nrg slim and a works bell hub. works good so far, only complaint i have is my horn button doesnt go in all the way on the QR piece that attaches to the wheel.

[burgerwitfry]

since on the subject of locks, do the works bell lock fit onto the aworks Q/R since its a replica of the works bell? Does it also fit onto the NRG? Also, does NRG locks only have one key for all of them? Sorry for the series of questions, just intrested! thanks

[Dutchmalmiss]

I couldn't find the Rapfix II Lock on the A Spec site. How much do you guys have it selling for? I'm very interested in it.

[Slidin240Wayz]

With Works Bell's current 25+ existing key combinations, it makes it highly improbable that a potential thief might have the same key.

Nuff said. Now I understand, you are on a roll.


I have a FET one and I've never had a problem of the steering wheel coming off during driving in the two years I've had it.

FET = WB

I had an NRG2.5 and I upgraded to a Works Bell and I have not looked back.

Carlos

ps Yea, WB from ASpecLogan as well.

[A Spec Products]

since on the subject of locks, do the works bell lock fit onto the aworks Q/R since its a replica of the works bell? Does it also fit onto the NRG? Also, does NRG locks only have one key for all of them? Sorry for the series of questions, just intrested! thanks

I am not aware whether or not Works Bell products fit on the knockoff products.

I have not tried, since there's no motivation to.

I couldn't find the Rapfix II Lock on the A Spec site. How much do you guys have it selling for? I'm very interested in it.

Please PM me for questions for quotes on WB items.

The MSRP on the lock is $110 for 2008.

[MrChow]

I just put on my Works Bell QR and Hub on it feels great. I bought a aworks QR a while ago and looking at the build of the both of them Works Bell is a lot better. Just like Dousan said there was grease on the awork one and the Works bell none.
Also one thing for the NRG vs Works Bell subject. Have you ever seen Works Bell QR on sale used? I know I haven't but I'll see a ton of NRG and other bands on sale.
The saying "You get what you paid for" is very true for this stuff.

The lock is a great security value if you think of it. I need to buy one btw. I'll ordering one from Logan soon. Logan is also super helpful with all question if you haven't already noticed.

Also if anyone that's has a S14 and is doing your wheel I have an extra T-50 tool thingy.

[CNDC]

^^^Vice grips will take it off. No Joke.