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Sil80Dreams
01-17-2008, 04:46 PM
I'm looking into getting a set, because originally I was going to get Megan Track's but I don't necessarily want 12kg up front. So I'm wondering if the Moonface's are any good, they are a couple hundred bucks more and more in this case isn't always better. Any help would be great. Thanks

-Noah

Brian
01-17-2008, 05:06 PM
As far as I can tell, Moonface is a company heavily into racing.
So, with that being said, I think they would put a lot of work into their parts to make them quality and useful.

I don't think they are all about being a big company and selling tons of little generic china made downpipes and turbo outlets and shit.

A Spec Products
01-17-2008, 05:42 PM
I would rather have Moonface over Megan, any day.

Even with a blindfold on.

I'm not hating on Megan at all, but just between those two choices for a couple extra hundred I'd use Moonface for sure.

Gjohnson7
01-17-2008, 05:49 PM
Hmmm.. never heard of them. Does anyone have any pics of them?

yokotas13
01-17-2008, 05:51 PM
moonface is huggeeer here.

id go moonface

brndck
01-17-2008, 05:51 PM
mfr has been into racing in japan for a long long time. I'd trust those over megan any day.

Brian
01-17-2008, 05:53 PM
I don't know if USA can handle it though.

I mean, why go for that awesome stuff when we can get SPORTMAX, K SPORT, MEGAN, ROTA, Etc.... SS AUTOCHROME rollin hard.

A Spec Products
01-17-2008, 05:55 PM
Hmmm.. never heard of them. Does anyone have any pics of them?

http://www.moonface-int.com/mfr/sus/suspension/img/s01d.jpg

Moonface site:

http://www.moonface-int.com/mfr/sus/suspension/damper-d.htm

I believe Ravspec is doing a group buy on Moonface items right now

DJDANGER24
01-17-2008, 05:55 PM
moonface. they have a lot of track experience, like brian said

GooseXRS
01-17-2008, 06:25 PM
moonface is huggeeer here.

id go moonface

gangster camber +1

I don't know if USA can handle it though.

I mean, why go for that awesome stuff when we can get SPORTMAX, K SPORT, MEGAN, ROTA, Etc.... SS AUTOCHROME rollin hard.

I dont think USA realizes that this shit is not a game. lol

http://www.moonface-int.com/mfr/sus/suspension/img/s01d.jpg

Moonface site:

http://www.moonface-int.com/mfr/sus/suspension/damper-d.htm

I believe Ravspec is doing a group buy on Moonface items right now

I remember someone posting in the rare s chassis thread about having these. You might want to check there and ask them. I think they should be good with as well as the MFR S15 performs.

Koopa Troopa
01-17-2008, 07:12 PM
I was gonig to get the Moon Face dampers but got a deal on something else.. Anyways for 160,000 yen they offer alot. Custom valving, spring rates and are rebuildable. Plus the quality of their parts look amazing.

spool_sample
01-17-2008, 07:34 PM
http://www.moonface-int.com/mfr/sus/suspension/img/s01d.jpg

Moonface site:

http://www.moonface-int.com/mfr/sus/suspension/damper-d.htm

I believe Ravspec is doing a group buy on Moonface items right now

Looks like re-colored Silk Roads to me:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9012/mg3511jo7.jpg

Bracket designs are pretty much the same, although the MFR's fronts aren't slotted. Both are 8-way damping adjustable. MFR's rear spring rates are also progressive, Silk Road's are linear. There are probably other little differences besides color, but they are more or less the same, especially the dampers. Valving is probably different to accomodate the different spring rates.

That's cool, though. Silk Roads aren't bad by any means, and I've seen the MFR's go for cheaper... but these are nothing new, IMO.

Ian
01-17-2008, 08:00 PM
uh...progressive springs?

duh



those coilovers look really nice...can't believe nobody has them here

Tearlessj
01-17-2008, 08:02 PM
Moonface was on the cover of Modified a while back. I'm surprise more people don't know about them.

PoorMans180SX
01-17-2008, 08:38 PM
Just from reading their stuff and seeing the coilovers, I say moonface. Gotta be better than Megan.

firelizard
01-17-2008, 08:39 PM
I remember that issue with the Moonface S15. Really got my attention, that's for sure; that car is serious business.

That said, I'd trust Moonface. What else I've seen of them seems to indicate a reputation for quality and performance. That's what I got from my research... I wonder if there's anyone in the US with first hand experience though?

Brian
01-18-2008, 10:31 AM
Only person I know that has MF parts is Dom on his S15.

EDacIouSX
01-18-2008, 10:39 AM
Looks like re-colored Silk Roads to me:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9012/mg3511jo7.jpg

Bracket designs are pretty much the same, although the MFR's fronts aren't slotted. Both are 8-way damping adjustable. MFR's rear spring rates are also progressive, Silk Road's are linear. There are probably other little differences besides color, but they are more or less the same, especially the dampers. Valving is probably different to accomodate the different spring rates.

That's cool, though. Silk Roads aren't bad by any means, and I've seen the MFR's go for cheaper... but these are nothing new, IMO.


I could also say they look like megan racing coilovers but are painted different, have different spring rates, have different coilover perches but are basically the same except have different valving to accomodate the different types of springs...

In other words what im trying to say is, what are you trying to say? a coilover is a coilover? We know that.....


uh...progressive springs?

duh



those coilovers look really nice...can't believe nobody has them here


who cares how it looks? megan's dont look bad either nor ksport coilovers. it's performance that matters.. besides, coilovers get messy under the wheel well and you never see them too.

PoorMans180SX
01-18-2008, 10:40 AM
^^That's what I was thinking.

To the OP:
Buy them! They're obviously better than Megans, and then give us the review. Help some people find some good quality suspension.

carnagexxxx
01-18-2008, 11:05 AM
How much do these cost and where can you get them from? I am not too savvy when it comes to converting Yen to usd.

SILVIA_KIDs14.5
01-18-2008, 11:16 AM
bump not thread jacking but would i be better off with the moon face over hks drag coil overs if i'm goin all out drag? kinda a stupid ? i know but figured i ask to reassure my self i kinda know the answer just want opinons

Brian
01-18-2008, 11:21 AM
if you want to drag, i t hink the HKS drag kit is a good idea.
probably super soft springs in the rear and dampers set up totally different than everything else...

fliprayzin240sx
01-18-2008, 11:26 AM
HKS DRAG Coilovers....gee I wonder what these are for?!?! Do people have to spell it out?

shmiddy
01-18-2008, 11:33 AM
dude they got some pretty fuckin cool stuff on the site!!! i am ashamed to say i have never herd of 'em, but im glad i did

how much do they go for and where can i get em'

fliprayzin240sx
01-18-2008, 11:43 AM
Is it just me or zilvia's starting to have a coilover brand of the month going? Its a new "is this coilover good?" thread pops up on a regular basis and its almost always a different brand.

HEY KOOPA, YOU SHOULD START AN ARAGOSTA THREAD!!!

!Zar!
01-18-2008, 11:46 AM
Whoever said they look like rebranded/colored coilovers fails.

MFR products have been well established in japan. Just until recently it was annoying as hell to acquire. There is a advertiser in the gb section that can get all of MF parts by the looks of it.

Koopa Troopa
01-18-2008, 11:54 AM
Is it just me or zilvia's starting to have a coilover brand of the month going? Its a new "is this coilover good?" thread pops up on a regular basis and its almost always a different brand.

HEY KOOPA, YOU SHOULD START AN ARAGOSTA THREAD!!!


I thought about it but I dunno if I could find some budget suspension to compare them too...

OMG those totally look like a copy of the short stroke design used on Super GT cars!!!!11 Topline Aragosta is the fail!:rofl:

You need to hit Frank or Johnny up for a ride in the Silvia... Apparantly the car is a whole new beast with the new dampers. Can't wait to drive it with the SPL arms/links and bushings.


For real though.. MFR is built in house and they offer custom valving and spring rates for your application so you're not stuck with some whack ass dampers.

Sil80Dreams
01-18-2008, 03:25 PM
WOW thanks for all the feedback haha, I found them on mynismo.com, the catch is, the website says to expect atleast 60 days for delivery. But yeah thanks everyone for leading toward the right choice, I would have been pissed had I gotten Megan's over these haha.

-Noah

spool_sample
01-18-2008, 03:38 PM
In other words what im trying to say is, what are you trying to say? a coilover is a coilover? We know that.....



The point I was trying to make is that they are probably manufactured in the same place by the same people as the Silk Roads and are probably of similar quality. It's not like this hasn't been done before (i.e. Megans and Apexi ExVs... Apexi seems to have no reason to share a damper platform with Megan, but they do... not to mention the various Korean-made systems). If you have eyes, the similarities are obvious:

http://www.driftshop.com.au/ebay/clearance/MFR%20Suspension%201.jpg

Same brackets and bodies, same adjusters. More than likely the valving and inside components are similar, as well.

Just a theory on what to expect, that's all... no need for some people to get sandy vaginas over it... people act like it's a bad thing. Silk Roads are decent, and if these are the same but cheaper, what is there to lose?

It's just something I noticed, I don't mean to piss in people's Cheerios.

614duece40
01-18-2008, 05:20 PM
even if they are made by the silkroad or the place that makes silkroad, there probably the better choice

A Spec Products
01-18-2008, 07:16 PM
Looks like re-colored Silk Roads to me:


They are not re-colored Silk Roads

Trust me on this

But honestly it's a really futile argument/discussion that doesn't need to go down

Either way, the answer for the OP looks like a resounding yes for MFR

atom
01-18-2008, 09:12 PM
If you look at the corporate profile on their very own website, they have 5 employees and 100,000 US dollars worth of capital. It is incredibly unlikely they developing their own coilovers from scratch with that kind of money and manpower. Like zero chance. That doesn't mean they are bad, but for anyone who thinks Moonface coilovers aren't just bought from somewhere else, reality check.

CKAMC
01-18-2008, 11:11 PM
If you look at the corporate profile on their very own website, they have 5 employees and 100,000 US dollars worth of capital. It is incredibly unlikely they developing their own coilovers from scratch with that kind of money and manpower. Like zero chance. That doesn't mean they are bad, but for anyone who thinks Moonface coilovers aren't just bought from somewhere else, reality check.

:rofl:

you just had to ignore people who may have possibly been to the shop...

great way to pick apart a company... by their website... :rolleyes:

thats basically like calling vivid racing the best company in the world!

you also need a reality check, people can buy parts to produce coilovers and build them by themselves(or a small team), its not like all these parts are hands off to the rest of us, we just have no real idea where to buy the stuff to do it or know how to build them.

so basically your saying if we had the two and took them completely apart, tested them... the only difference between the two is the paint color and the end cost? :loco:

hrdprkin180
01-19-2008, 12:02 AM
I know that IB had a set on his old S14 and they held up like champs no leaks or anything. And he wasnt exactly easy on the car.

ALEXTHESUS*PECT
01-19-2008, 12:14 AM
here is the thread from zilvia:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=164791&highlight=moonface

atom
01-19-2008, 12:45 AM
:rofl:

you just had to ignore people who may have possibly been to the shop...



Thats funny, I don't remember anyone saying they've actually seen it. But hey if anyone has actually been there and seen anyone at Moonface sitting down and designing a damper feel free to speak up and I'll admit I was wrong.

great way to pick apart a company... by their website... :rolleyes:

thats basically like calling vivid racing the best company in the world!

Yes, because a company promoting themselves and another company outlining their business is EXACTLY the same thing right? Right?

you also need a reality check, people can buy parts to produce coilovers and build them by themselves(or a small team), its not like all these parts are hands off to the rest of us, we just have no real idea where to buy the stuff to do it or know how to build them.

So in the previous part of your post you wanna say I'm wrong about them buying their stuff from somewhere else yet in the very next sentence you admit any Joe Schmo with enough money can get in contact with one of these factories and buy the parts to make their own coilover? Ok.....LOL.

so basically your saying if we had the two and took them completely apart, tested them... the only difference between the two is the paint color and the end cost? :loco:

Where did I say Moonface coilovers were exactly the same as some other coilover? I'm having trouble finding that part of my post. Valving might be different, spring rate might be different, but I am willing to bet none of the individual components (brackets, collars, mounts, and most importantly, the damper) are unique to Moonface.

So what are YOU trying to say? You believe a company selling $1300 coilovers on yahoo.jp auctions is designing, testing, and fabricating suspension systems the same way other small comanies like, oh say JRZ, DMS, and Quantum are? LOL

Sil80Dreams
01-19-2008, 12:54 AM
So like, you guys take this shit way serious huh? I'm sorry for any drama I indirectly started, it was wrong of me, a 19 year old kid who likes cars and the best-bang-for-buck parts for said cars, to do that I again am sorry. HAHAHAHA, chill the fuck out atom, the thing is, maybe if you didn't come off like a complete douchebag, people wouldn't give you shit. It's just coilovers man, chill.

atom
01-19-2008, 01:18 AM
I posted something, someone responded, so I responded back. It's called a discussion. It's something adults do. What are you, 10? (and yes thats me being a douche to you, and only you, cuz you're a dumbass).

CKAMC
01-19-2008, 01:33 AM
blah blah blah

:rofl:

the manner you speak about things can be seen as wishy washy, just like you nit picked at me and thus:

1. Ok so this guy talks like he believes these there is no major...or even any reason an individual should pay so much when there is a cheaper coilover that looks and has maybe a few parts that are the same

2.Outlining who you are is another way for a shop to tell a little about themselves, one promoting themselves is looking to attract new customers. two different deals (one sits back and another goes out)

3. There is enough variety in parts and design to make noticeable differences between products, and yes if you want to get parts you can contact manufactures and either take part they have or R&D something with them. Not like I am talking about a crazy new idea here.

4. Pricing and sales of products reflects a product up to a certian degree, which is called product classing (putting stance and silkroad in the product classing because of their price as an example). Shipping, Resale, Wholesale, Taxing is subject to vendor's digression.

3-240's-N-aMule
01-19-2008, 01:40 AM
Golly yall... MoonFace is a shop outta japville that built the MoonFace s15 and 350z, two cars built heavily around time attack events. The shop used alot of their own suspension shit on the car including their own coilovers ie, the moonface coils. They are very proven on track so you cant really go wrong.

drift freaq
01-19-2008, 11:54 AM
Golly yall... MoonFace is a shop outta japville that built the MoonFace s15 and 350z, two cars built heavily around time attack events. The shop used alot of their own suspension shit on the car including their own coilovers ie, the moonface coils. They are very proven on track so you cant really go wrong.

That may be good on smooth roads, but how do these coilovers perform on less than smooth roads?

The biggest issue in this ongoing debate of either cheaper or supposed quality Japanese coilovers VS a custom Koni or Bilstein setup is the ride quality.

Now the fact is Japanese roads are known to be smoother and Race tracks period are smoother. So even with somewhat improper damping for the spring rate, a Japanese coilover or even one of the better budget coilovers i.e. KTS,Stance, etc.... would perform decently on a smooth track.
The real test comes though on less smooth road surfaces and how the damper with spring rate works then.

Now not everybody here drops suspension in their car and just takes it to the track only. So there is a certain amount of ride quality issue that comes into play.
I can personally say that the Generic habit of most current import coilovers of 8/6 tends to be oversprung for a lot of the dampers currently on the market. Which pretty much translates to a harsh or bouncy ride.

Does the car bob down the freeway over the uneven freeway surface? Do really rough surfaces react harshly instead of just a smooth single motion absorption? Thats a because of a poorly valved damper thats oversprung. If you actually adjusted the spring rates down the ride would improve though it would not completely compensate the poor damping.

Now we have certain members on the forum based in Japan who have little to no experience with a Bilstein or Koni setup saying there are good Japanese brands, which there may be. Although there are several American road racers that have tested Japanese brands and found poor results and tested Koni's or Bilsteins and found better, who feel most Japanese brands are just not that good.

Some of you are to young to know including these Japan based forum members. There was a time when there was absolutely no quality shocks aka dampers coming out of Japan.
It was not that long ago but long enough to be before a lot of you guys were even near a age to drive.
I am not saying that a small Japanese company cannot make a good damper. I am not saying all Japanese dampers are junk. I am basically leaning towards a just because its made in Japan does not make it good argument.

Until someone brings all these Japanese coilovers over here and road tests them on American roads and shock dyno's, them we will not know exactly about a lot of them. Until they actually try them themselves.
I will not argue against a road racer posting shock dyno tested information as he knows more than I. I will argue against the Japan o phile that thinks because its a expensive Japanese company it must be good, or because he has driven it on a Japanese road not an American road its a good coilover.
Thats a biased opinion at best with out any scientific controls in place and therefore is not conclusive.

To sum it up, this argument is going to go on and on until stuff is put side by side.
I am just tired of most people with not enough experience calling shit on posted scientific proof aka shock dyno's just because they are Japan o philes.

P.S. I do love a lot of Japanese stuff including my women. Though I will say Japan is not the technological leader of the world and if you think they are you need to learn more about things. They are good but not the greatest.

With all of this said I would love to see Moonface coilovers be good. I fear though, there is not enough product support here in the states to warrant buying them.
Again it would also have to be a test it to see if it works here, refer to my earlier statements about race tracks to understand.

Sil80Dreams
01-19-2008, 03:59 PM
Yeah dude... I'm ten, and you're the adult having the "adult discussion" on a car website. Whatever bro, thanks for all of your wonderful input, seriously you made some damn fine points and I hope you live a great life IRL douchebag.

-Noah "The 10 year old Dumbass"

OptionZero
01-19-2008, 04:30 PM
that remark was pretty uncalled for

3-240's-N-aMule
01-20-2008, 05:56 AM
That may be good on smooth roads, but how do these coilovers perform on less than smooth roads?

The biggest issue in this ongoing debate of either cheaper or supposed quality Japanese coilovers VS a custom Koni or Bilstein setup is the ride quality.

Now the fact is Japanese roads are known to be smoother and Race tracks period are smoother. So even with somewhat improper damping for the spring rate, a Japanese coilover or even one of the better budget coilovers i.e. KTS,Stance, etc.... would perform decently on a smooth track.
The real test comes though on less smooth road surfaces and how the damper with spring rate works then.

Now not everybody here drops suspension in their car and just takes it to the track only. So there is a certain amount of ride quality issue that comes into play.
I can personally say that the Generic habit of most current import coilovers of 8/6 tends to be oversprung for a lot of the dampers currently on the market. Which pretty much translates to a harsh or bouncy ride.

Does the car bob down the freeway over the uneven freeway surface? Do really rough surfaces react harshly instead of just a smooth single motion absorption? Thats a because of a poorly valved damper thats oversprung. If you actually adjusted the spring rates down the ride would improve though it would not completely compensate the poor damping.

Now we have certain members on the forum based in Japan who have little to no experience with a Bilstein or Koni setup saying there are good Japanese brands, which there may be. Although there are several American road racers that have tested Japanese brands and found poor results and tested Koni's or Bilsteins and found better, who feel most Japanese brands are just not that good.

Some of you are to young to know including these Japan based forum members. There was a time when there was absolutely no quality shocks aka dampers coming out of Japan.
It was not that long ago but long enough to be before a lot of you guys were even near a age to drive.
I am not saying that a small Japanese company cannot make a good damper. I am not saying all Japanese dampers are junk. I am basically leaning towards a just because its made in Japan does not make it good argument.

Until someone brings all these Japanese coilovers over here and road tests them on American roads and shock dyno's, them we will not know exactly about a lot of them. Until they actually try them themselves.
I will not argue against a road racer posting shock dyno tested information as he knows more than I. I will argue against the Japan o phile that thinks because its a expensive Japanese company it must be good, or because he has driven it on a Japanese road not an American road its a good coilover.
Thats a biased opinion at best with out any scientific controls in place and therefore is not conclusive.

To sum it up, this argument is going to go on and on until stuff is put side by side.
I am just tired of most people with not enough experience calling shit on posted scientific proof aka shock dyno's just because they are Japan o philes.

P.S. I do love a lot of Japanese stuff including my women. Though I will say Japan is not the technological leader of the world and if you think they are you need to learn more about things. They are good but not the greatest.

With all of this said I would love to see Moonface coilovers be good. I fear though, there is not enough product support here in the states to warrant buying them.
Again it would also have to be a test it to see if it works here, refer to my earlier statements about race tracks to understand.

Are u kiddin me? Thats why coilovers usually come with different spring rates fool. You cant seriously expect to go to a circuit event on coilover made for track with 10/8 s/r and then go off and see how they handle when your off roadin on those same coils to determine if they are quality or not. Shits stupid son.

yokotas13
01-20-2008, 06:13 AM
all i gotta say
id take Koni, bilstein or Ohlins, over any JP coilover

spool_sample
01-20-2008, 08:36 AM
Are u kiddin me? Thats why coilovers usually come with different spring rates fool. You cant seriously expect to go to a circuit event on coilover made for track with 10/8 s/r and then go off and see how they handle when your off roadin on those same coils to determine if they are quality or not. Shits stupid son.

If you think that it just comes down to spring rates, you have a lot to learn.

It's not about the car being able to go to a track and then go down a dirt trail or whatever. It's about going track-to-track or street-to-track. Different tracks have different conditions - bumps and irregularities, types of pavement, marbles, etc. If you have bad dampers, it's very hard to adjust them to get the best performance, as a lot of them don't really adjust much to begin with. Usually this is a symptom of not enough rebound and too much compression, with both of those curves being too linear. As a result, the only drastic changes are with higher shock speeds... so what you're really changing when you turn the knob is how much you want the car to jump over bumps. Japanese companies just crank the spring rates up to try to mask this problem. This is how it feels to me... someone like Wiisass can probably explain what's going on inside the damper.

Not all the Japanese coilovers are like this, though, but the ones that aren't dont use shitty dampers, i.e. Topline uses Aragosta, Ennepetal and Amuse use Bilstein... there are probably other, smaller companies, I'm sure.

That said, it's definitely possible to have a car be fast with shocks that have bad valving (Moonface, for example, to remain on-topic), but they could definitely be faster if the shocks were better.

devonkyle77
01-20-2008, 10:03 AM
i wonder how the moonface compares to stance gr+?

Koopa Troopa
01-20-2008, 10:22 AM
Now the fact is Japanese roads are known to be smoother and Race tracks period are smoother.

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Thanks for the laugh man.










You ever been anywhere in Japan?

firelizard
01-20-2008, 11:34 AM
You ever been anywhere in Japan?
To be fair, with rolling shots in videos like this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vD63FAkrjdE&feature=related

I can see why people would think Japan has perfect roads. If nobody told me they weren't I wouldn't have thought they weren't perfect either.

Makes people like me jealous. Is that pic in your sig a shot from Japan? Because in Winnipeg, a turn like that would have 3 potholes, a crack down the middle of each lane, and busted joints every 5 yards.

Koopa Troopa
01-20-2008, 11:52 AM
To be fair, with rolling shots in videos like this:

I can see why people would think Japan has perfect roads. If nobody told me they weren't I wouldn't have thought they weren't perfect either.

Makes people like me jealous. Is that pic in your sig a shot from Japan? Because in Winnipeg, a turn like that would have 3 potholes, a crack down the middle of each lane, and busted joints every 5 yards.

That video was filmed on the Tokyo Expressway.. All expressway's in Japan are toll roads so they better be perfect even the expressway in Okinawa is smooth as silk.

Yes, the picture is from my weekend hangout. What the picture doesn't show you is the huge dip right before the turn, the bump strips to slow cars down, guardrails so damaged they hang into the road and miscellaneous car chunks scattered randomly.

How can anyone that thinks a country that throws bump strips in the middle of roads have smooth roads? :rofl:

Search "Osaka Touge" on youtube... That video shows what roads in Japan are really like...

yudalicious
01-20-2008, 04:17 PM
MOON FACE! Make your car feel like it's driving on the cratered-filled surface of the moon! Moon Face coming at you!!! Lol, can't get over the name, at least the name Silk Road made you want to try them hahaha... If I'm in the US and I'm picking a suspension, I'd trust the thousands of weekend warriors running.. oh Konis, Bilsteins, in numerous venues like autocross, DEs, time trials, w2w racing over the handful of JDMtastic drifters who think running a coilover from an obscure shop half way across the globe is a good idea and that a mountain road is a bonafide "proving ground" for their suspension of choice.

drift freaq
01-20-2008, 05:52 PM
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Thanks for the laugh man.










You ever been anywhere in Japan?

I stand corrected. Happy egotist?

P.S. you should pay more attention to what people like Yudilicous are posting as well, you might learn something.
I still say you have your head stuck on JDM as gods gift to the world and see since your in armed forces you think you know everything.

Koopa Troopa
01-21-2008, 01:35 AM
I stand corrected. Happy egotist?

P.S. you should pay more attention to what people like Yudilicous are posting as well, you might learn something.
I still say you have your head stuck on JDM as gods gift to the world and see since your in armed forces you think you know everything.

No I know everything cause I've been to more places then just California. Don't say "it's a known fact" if you have no idea what you're talking about. Just a general rule of thumb. Oh and check my location before you try and I say I'm stuck on "JDM being god's gift to the world..." Also I just spent 2,600 some dollars on SPL stuff so you can flush that down the toilette..
:bigok:

Don't really care what Yudilicous has to say. We're obviously in two separate worlds...

yokotas13
01-21-2008, 02:54 AM
yerah, roads in jaopan really do suck

Sil80Dreams
01-21-2008, 01:06 PM
MOON FACE! Make your car feel like it's driving on the cratered-filled surface of the moon! Moon Face coming at you!!! Lol, can't get over the name, at least the name Silk Road made you want to try them hahaha... If I'm in the US and I'm picking a suspension, I'd trust the thousands of weekend warriors running.. oh Konis, Bilsteins, in numerous venues like autocross, DEs, time trials, w2w racing over the handful of JDMtastic drifters who think running a coilover from an obscure shop half way across the globe is a good idea and that a mountain road is a bonafide "proving ground" for their suspension of choice.

Yeah I'm not in it to be JDMtastic as you say, nor am I a drifter. I just don't want to by a crummy coilover. And I'm not made out of money and can't afford the great shit. I just want a good quality coilover for a somewhat reasonable price. That's also why I thought to make this fucking thread. To ask about their quality. And since this company makes one for my car, and have been in the racing industry for 15 years I thought I'd give them a shot.

Koopa Troopa
01-22-2008, 09:53 AM
I'd get them as they offer rebuild kits and custom valving and spring rates.... Although I'm not in denial like some people on this forum who are desperately trying to be a JDM counter culture....

irax
01-22-2008, 11:45 PM
I know that Ib had a set on his old S14 and they held up like champs no leaks or anything. And he wasnt exactly easy on the car.
I am this person named Ib, I agree with this comment.

I've driven on various spring and shock combinations, and coilovers such as JIC FLT-A2's, Teins, Megans. I really like them, they are very durable, considering i did not drive on the best roads of miramesa aka POT HOLE EVERYWHERE! and they saw allot of drift time. I would get these again if Parts Shop Max coilovers weren't available in the US. At the same time I wish they had rear spring top hats like the Parts Shop Max does. The set I had were specifically for s15 because of the spring rates, but the ride quality wasn't bad or even that bouncy. The megan's I have now are ridiculously bouncy in comparison.

yudalicious
01-23-2008, 12:54 AM
Yeah I'm not in it to be JDMtastic as you say, nor am I a drifter. I just don't want to by a crummy coilover. And I'm not made out of money and can't afford the great shit. I just want a good quality coilover for a somewhat reasonable price. That's also why I thought to make this fucking thread. To ask about their quality. And since this company makes one for my car, and have been in the racing industry for 15 years I thought I'd give them a shot.

I was kidding about the name, and the comments weren't directed at you. There was a very informative thread on koni/GC under Tech not long ago that you can find via search, and I'd consider them very reasonably priced and great quality. KTS and Stance are also good options, they're more plug-n-play than the Koni/GC, but I really wish I had manned up and gone the Koni/GC route instead KTS from the beginning. The KTS are good bang for the buck, but feel jittery on track compared to Konis and as a result I feel like I'm leaving some grip on the table.

My friend with the s14/Stance shares my sentiment. I don't think any of the popular choices will serve you wrong, though the Koni dampers are as good in real life as they appear on paper (imagine that, engineers and suspension experts do, in fact, know what they talk about). All 3 brands I named have a great reputation and support STATESIDE. I guess I'm on the counter JDM culture bandwagon since I want support near me that isn't sleeping when I'm awake... buuut I don't even know how to drift, so you should probably disregard my opinion anyway.

dynamicck
01-23-2008, 02:10 PM
moonface if u can get a decent price.

DJDANGER24
01-26-2008, 09:31 AM
so, did you finally decide what to run ?