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IRN
01-17-2008, 01:54 AM
any first hand experience from anyone owning a set of these? they got for dirt on ebay.

DreamN
01-17-2008, 02:02 AM
damn didn't even know they made those. honestly, i don't think ppl have really reviewed them yet. i know their intercoolers get some good reviews. i personally have their sway bars and they're decent for the price, nothing special. don't think i'd cheap out on coilovers though.

IRN
01-17-2008, 02:19 AM
I was about to get their rucas and sway bar set and came across their coils. I just havent seen or heard of them ever. I already own a set of flex so im good. just curious about their quality.

AznDrftr.
01-17-2008, 02:26 AM
Hmm, well if you got a project type car to throw them on, go for it. Wont know until you try them yourself, but, on the other hand you dont want them to crap out you either.

BustedS13
01-17-2008, 02:37 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GODSPEED-TYPE-SS-89-94-S13-240SX-SUSPENSION-COILOVER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33582QQihZ011Q QitemZ320205985008QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

IT'S OKAY THIS ISN'T A FOR SALE THREAD. DON'T PANIC

Features:

- Spring Rates: 8kg Front and 6kg Rear

- Pillow Ball Upper Mounts.

- Rubber Dust Covers.

- Adjustable Ride Height

- Aggressive Spring Rates

- Single-Cylinder Design

- Aluminum Bracketshttp://images.andale.com/f2/116/107/27377173/2007/12/16/S13-S14_NO_ADJUSTABLE__5_.JPG

http://images.andale.com/f2/116/107/27377173/2007/12/16/1197859616350_S13-S14_NO_ADJUSTABLE__6_.JPG

http://images.andale.com/f2/116/107/27377173/2007/12/16/1197326267157_S13-S14_NO_ADJUSTABLE__4_.JPG

http://images.andale.com/f2/116/107/27377173/2007/12/16/S13-S14_NO_ADJUSTABLE__7_.JPG

this one's $619 shipped. who's our guinea pig?

bo2o
01-17-2008, 02:39 AM
hey they dont look too bad.. they have warrenty also. theres 2 types like megan has... and company hasnt had ne bad reviews other that there egay stuff.i have the sways and i love them!.

dual adjustable height and dampening... thats a pretty good deal over megan.

BustedS13
01-17-2008, 02:44 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GODSPEED-89-94-240SX-S13-180SX-COILOVER-DAMPER-KIT_W0QQitemZ320205985865QQihZ011QQcategoryZ33582Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

....and here's the version with 16 way dampening.

http://images.andale.com/f2/116/107/27377173/2007/12/8/1197182387601_s13_adjustable__3_.JPG

http://images.andale.com/f2/116/107/27377173/2007/12/8/1197182386944_s13_adjustable__12_.JPG

GooseXRS
01-17-2008, 02:47 AM
if i could sell my kit i would probably buy them and let you all know. but that seems impossible. lol

!Zar!
01-17-2008, 02:49 AM
More than likely they will dampen just like ever other cheap chinese coilover.


Shit isn't new. Yet you all keep posting the same generic stuff up. Like you are going to stumble upon a godsend and have 700 coilovers perform like 7k ones.

hahaha.

zilvia...


It's pointless to have six camber bolts per damper, because once you adjust them you'll have to remove two. per shock.

GooseXRS
01-17-2008, 02:53 AM
and the parade has been rained on. lol. I saw these and have been considering trying them but my other ish has to go first.

!Zar!
01-17-2008, 02:56 AM
I'll save you the agony.

Don't buy them.

But I mean who needs quality and performance.

When you can have low cost poor quality and, red.

GooseXRS
01-17-2008, 02:58 AM
ill take your word for it !ZAR! and I wont get them. You probably know better than me anyway.

Ca_laurier
01-17-2008, 07:17 AM
ya looks like they are produced by the same guys who make k-sports and form and functions

for the price its not bad, but it always comes back to: you get what you pay for

Edgar
01-17-2008, 08:02 AM
Ok I will be real honest and I know who manufatured those coilovers. I have a problem when people up the price so much. One of my guys that run our events here has them on his S13 and I will probably be able to get a better review on these once he hits the track.

Want to know where they got these from?

Here it is
http://www.emotorusa.com/suspension.asp

E Motor brings these over from the great land of somewhere ;)

How did I reconginze these? The 3 Camber Adjust bolt things.
These were posted on our site as soon as the shipment arrived. I'll try to get some information on them.

Ian
01-17-2008, 08:20 AM
They look like the same design as Megan Racing stuff


Bor Chuan or w/e

ZX88
01-17-2008, 08:27 AM
they look like megan fronts with ksport/d2 rears.

Edgar
01-17-2008, 08:29 AM
they look like megan fronts with ksport/d2 rears.

My buddy Bill said they were feeling ok, you cant jump to conclusions just yet.

ZX88
01-17-2008, 08:35 AM
My buddy Bill said they were feeling ok, you cant jump to conclusions just yet.

no im not im just pointing out an observation i have no problem with products megan and ksport make and peoples views differ base what they use their products for dd, track etc. id probably run these on a daily driver. Im actually interested in what your guy says cause a buddy of mine want was looking at a set for his s13.

Phlip
01-17-2008, 08:50 AM
I will only allow this thread to remain open as long as it is not the pissing contest that the others like it usually become.

MAGILLA
01-17-2008, 08:59 AM
wow for the price these look a lot better than the nex coilovers you usually see on ebay. Hopefully they perform as well as they look.

markyboi
01-17-2008, 09:21 AM
i checked this site out:
http://www.emotorusa.com/suspension.asp

check out the cars under model

Model

Mitbusishi DSM

Honda civic/Fit

Honda S13/S14

Honda Acura

BMW

VW Golf

Audi

Mazda

K20/RSX

Toyota TC

Ninjabread
01-17-2008, 09:36 AM
Haha, I had to read that like 3 times before it clicked.

driftyour40
01-17-2008, 09:40 AM
i checked this site out:
http://www.emotorusa.com/suspension.asp

check out the cars under model

Model

Mitbusishi DSM

Honda civic/Fit

Honda S13/S14

Honda Acura

BMW

VW Golf

Audi

Mazda

K20/RSX

Toyota TC

haha who knew I owned a honda.

I was thinking about getting some, as my coilovers now are blown and I need a cheap fix, but I know I'll get what I pay for, so im just going to save and get something else.

axiomatik
01-17-2008, 09:46 AM
these are nothing special, just more cheap ebay/china junk. They are shiny, and they allow you to adjust your ride height. that is about all they are good for.

Edgar
01-17-2008, 10:04 AM
lol probably a typo

EDacIouSX
01-17-2008, 10:11 AM
i was gonna say just get megans since its good quality for the money but....... then i looked at the god speed coilovers price. if they perform just as well as me gans for about 2/3rds the cost of a megans then i say get the god speeds... only problem is, they are new. if you try them, good luck.

Bobafreak
01-17-2008, 10:20 AM
I actually have them on my car and there not bad at all i took them up to Mt baldy and touged it down hill(very skeptical about it thinking they would break and i would die...lol but shit you can die just about anywhere in socal) and there pretty decent(i havent adjusted to low because i wanted to see how it would be first.break em in,) I have it on a 2 1/2 inch drop. On the roads they were not really bouncy like ones i have had before, they are just like the megan drifts if you ask me(had those too) but the copy is from the apex N1 model. Yes i was the guinea pig for there full suspension set up and shit for the price (free) you think i turn that down....hell nah! lol. But overall there like megans. Heres the picture proof.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/project%20s13point5/s135026.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/project%20s13point5/s135026.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/project%20s13point5/s135021.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/project%20s13point5/s135018.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/project%20s13point5/s135020.jpg

robtheflyer
01-17-2008, 10:22 AM
I tried to ask questions and start a thread about these a month ago, but a moderator locked my thread before anyone would respond. I would say someone with a budget project should try them? Tax time is around the corner anyway right? Well, here's hoping that someone is brave enough to give them a try.

shmiddy
01-17-2008, 10:25 AM
i dont own any godspeed stuff but a friend of mine put one of their aluminum raidiators in his twin turbo supra and it seems alright. one thing i must say the look nice but are dirt cheep. 500 bucks is pretty cheep..... i dont know if i trust 'em but if you get em let us know how they ride

Bobafreak
01-17-2008, 10:32 AM
hmm well ill have thesquidd drive it around and maybe he can shine his input on this as well.

Edgar
01-17-2008, 11:12 AM
I'm going to talk to EMOTOR and try to get some more information on them.

KiDyNomiTe
01-17-2008, 11:30 AM
"You get what you pay for"

Buy coilovers that are proven and tested, save up and do it right the first time.

Don't cheap out on suspension, bad coils will make your car not so fun, hitting your head on the roof is also painful.

Bobafreak
01-17-2008, 11:49 AM
"You get what you pay for"

Buy coilovers that are proven and tested, save up and do it right the first time.

Don't cheap out on suspension, bad coils will make your car not so fun, hitting your head on the roof is also painful.

yeah i paid nothing...

your 2nd quote is blahh i heard that before it really still doesent mean a thing because you could test any coilover and they still could break leak etc that goes for all name brand coilovers.

3rd quote like i said they arent bouncy at all compared to tein and megans werent that bad either.

put it this way folks if you are on a freakin budget and not omg i need to spend xxx for these coilovers because whatever reason try these there not bad. They are very close to the megan "drift" models they have for a even lower price. They offer a freakin 1 yr warranty as well. So shit. still even if i didnt have to pay for them its freakin 6 bills yr warranty its not like they arent local or behind phones and you deal with that shit. i probably spend more than that on freakin aero.

hijack3d
01-17-2008, 12:12 PM
I've tested out coilovers before. And I'm pretty critical. The function/forms and the Megans. And everyone says they're "the same" but not 100%...

The MR's actually gave me more trouble than the F2's, and I never even tracked the car with the MR's! I wasn't impressed w/ the ride quality with the MR's on my S14, but I was impressed with the ride quality on the F2's in my S13. (Both cars, only suspension mod at the time were the coilovers). They weren't as stiff, which I liked. But my perception of good could totally be different than your perception of good. I like good response without sacrificing too much ride quality. Which is super hard to find with any coilover set up as it's already naturally more stiff than any struts/springs combo.

Anyway, MR's and F2's both had the same problem. When I went from full soft to full stiff, I didn't really feel too much of a difference in handling. Horrible valving. It's probably the same situation w/ these, but you tell me :) I want to feel the difference.

The hardware on the MR's were better than the F2's. I broke a stud removing the F2's from my car. How's the hardware on these? Good quality? Cheap quality? The hardware I got w/ my F2's reminded me of the cheap tools you buy at WalMart. So easy to replace, but yet they skimped out on it...

Anyway, those are some questions I would ask if I were testing out coils. Besides the obvious, which is ride. Need to know about longevity and adjustability.

Personally, I wouldn't have bought them if they weren't pretty much given to me. I need more drastic adjustability and better longevity. So if these are in the same league, I'd be eating Ramen until I had enough to get something better.

Bobafreak
01-17-2008, 12:21 PM
Well only way to solve this is driving my car i guess. your local as well. We can do a godspeed R&d in a open field. Everyone write reviews.

vinhnumber
01-17-2008, 12:27 PM
Well only way to solve this is driving my car i guess. your local as well. We can do a godspeed R&d in a open field. Everyone write reviews.

Do an event CG! TON's of pictures! :bigok:

Bobafreak
01-17-2008, 12:38 PM
Ill provide gas everyone bring tires. 10 min per person. Ill need you all to sign a liabillity contract.

hijack3d
01-17-2008, 01:18 PM
LOL. Cool, I'm down. You're right, it's hard to really say anything about something until you actually try it...

Bobafreak
01-17-2008, 01:21 PM
hmm ok well that leaves me, vinh, hijack3d. Ill ask squidd, we need a date and location. Ideas anyone?..

Edgar
01-17-2008, 02:09 PM
"You get what you pay for"

Buy coilovers that are proven and tested, save up and do it right the first time.

Don't cheap out on suspension, bad coils will make your car not so fun, hitting your head on the roof is also painful.

I do agree with this to some point, not a lot of "good" coils out there that have been tested. Ok, I don't know if that made since.

Bobafreak
01-17-2008, 02:11 PM
i understood it.

Phlip
01-17-2008, 02:15 PM
I tried to ask questions and start a thread about these a month ago, but a moderator locked my thread before anyone would respond. I would say someone with a budget project should try them? Tax time is around the corner anyway right? Well, here's hoping that someone is brave enough to give them a try.

There was a reason the thread was closed:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=169158
The section it was placed in was the major reason.

Rusker
01-17-2008, 04:12 PM
If you are looking for budget just stay with Megan. More than likely these are rebadged megans but it's probably not worth finding out for yourself.

Bobafreak
01-17-2008, 04:58 PM
who said they had to buy them i said my car was the test car. lol.

hijack3d
01-17-2008, 05:15 PM
If you are looking for budget just stay with Megan. More than likely these are rebadged megans but it's probably not worth finding out for yourself.

Do you own Megans? There's another active thread about their coilovers and !Zar! and I both said the exact same thing about them... they're not very good.

Bobafreak... I'm free next weekend. This weekend I'm dong the 5-speed and 5-lug swap on my car and a friend of mine is coming into town on Sunday... which does mean though since I'm going 5-lug that I do have a set of wheels with good meaty tires on them that'll have no purpose after this weekend ... if you know what I mean! :2f2f:

I have another set of coilovers that I'll be testing out in a couple weeks or so. If all goes well this time around, it'd be kind of cool if this could be a regular thing. Maybe the same group or anyone who's interested could get together and write reviews about parts we install to test...

Bobafreak
01-17-2008, 05:22 PM
Do you own Megans? There's another active thread about their coilovers and !Zar! and I both said the exact same thing about them... they're not very good.

Bobafreak... I'm free next weekend. This weekend I'm dong the 5-speed and 5-lug swap on my car and a friend of mine is coming into town on Sunday... which does mean though since I'm going 5-lug that I do have a set of wheels with good meaty tires on them that'll have no purpose after this weekend ... if you know what I mean! :2f2f:

I have another set of coilovers that I'll be testing out in a couple weeks or so. If all goes well this time around, it'd be kind of cool if this could be a regular thing. Maybe the same group or anyone who's interested could get together and write reviews about parts we install to test...

Dahh next weekend ill be in mt high snowboarding and going to see a band( we are the arsenal) @ the showcase in corona. The week after im moving to upland close to squidds house. (so i can bug the shit out of him, spy on his house and go next door and ask for waffle fries and spacers >_<) i can try to squeeze Sunday if its ok with the misses but we got alot a shit to move. My overall question is location. I know a spot not too far for you, but im not sure if its a ok go to do it yet so im going to ask around.

kouki_s14
01-17-2008, 05:57 PM
"You get what you pay for"

Buy coilovers that are proven and tested, save up and do it right the first time.

Don't cheap out on suspension, bad coils will make your car not so fun, hitting your head on the roof is also painful.


I'm not so sure "you get what you pay for" is entirely correct here. From my research, everything that comes out of China OR Japan (yes that is right JAPAN) is crap. With the exception of the camber plates, most Chinese or Japanese coilovers are crap. When i say coilovers i mean shocks. Even the supposedly "high end" stuff like Cusco, HKS, and EVEN Zeal cant come close to some American or European brands.

So paying $2500 for coilovers doesnt exactly get you much more than the $1000 coilovers give you. There is a reason Motons, Ohlins, Penskes, Sachs etc are anywhere from $5000 to $20,000.

Why do you think the Mine's suspension for the new GTR is $10,000? Because Mine's knows something about suspension and had Sachs make their shocks. The GTR has stock Bilsteins, which is also a great shock company. They could have called up Zeal to design some $4000 coilovers, but going from Bilstein to Zeal is a horrible horrible downgrade.

There have been thread after thread about what suspension/coilover is good. Last i checked a very very small percentage of 240 owners need REAL shocks, most just want to slam the shit out of their cars. Of course the more expensive coilovers will be a little bit better, but why pay another $1000 for something you probably wont even notice. For $1000 you can get some Konis that will blow away your $2000 JIC crap coilovers.

So "you get what you pay for" doesnt apply too well, people on zilvia just need to learn a thing or two about shocks and be smart with their money. If you want to just slam your car, get some chinese coilovers, if you want your car to perform get Konis, if you can afford it get some Motons, Penskes, etc.

For those of you who think im full of shit read this:

http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html

I've posted it and many others on this forum have before as well, yet no one seems to read it.

Bobafreak
01-17-2008, 06:01 PM
well said. +rep

KiDyNomiTe
01-17-2008, 07:00 PM
EDIT: I am sticking to my post...

After a couple months of hard driving on them let us know how they are. It would be nice to see some other reviews from non-sponsored people.

Let's hope this doesn't become another D2 fiasco...

hijack3d
01-17-2008, 10:36 PM
Dahh next weekend ill be in mt high snowboarding and going to see a band( we are the arsenal) @ the showcase in corona. The week after im moving to upland close to squidds house. (so i can bug the shit out of him, spy on his house and go next door and ask for waffle fries and spacers >_<) i can try to squeeze Sunday if its ok with the misses but we got alot a shit to move. My overall question is location. I know a spot not too far for you, but im not sure if its a ok go to do it yet so im going to ask around.

That's cool man... I can do it sometime during the week too, no big deal. Whenever's good for you, I don't have a missus to answer to. I just moved into the area, sorry I don't know any good places..

ManoNegra
01-17-2008, 11:02 PM
kouki_S14 - well put, which is why my next set of 'coilovers' will be custom valved Konis. repped.

drift freaq
01-17-2008, 11:33 PM
kouki_S14 - well put, which is why my next set of 'coilovers' will be custom valved Konis. repped.

heh, I am heading down this road as well.

slow40sx
01-17-2008, 11:50 PM
oh yeah i was considering these for a while but i figured i have 600 y not save 400 more and snag the good shit, powered by MAX anyone? :rawk:

Edgar
01-18-2008, 04:34 PM
EDIT: I am sticking to my post...

After a couple months of hard driving on them let us know how they are. It would be nice to see some other reviews from non-sponsored people.

Let's hope this doesn't become another D2 fiasco...


yeaa LUPE :wavey:

driftcardotnet
01-25-2008, 09:36 PM
haha, i was thinking that they private label some of their stuff. in case you have no idea what that means, Private Labeling is when you buy brandless/ nameless products from another company, and slap your name on it and call it your own. i've seen it done with vitamins, and health supplements, and i've seen knock off auto parts which are like these. notice how in their picture they don't have their name on it.
oh this reminds me of those counterfeit tein coilovers on ebay, the ones that have the tein sticker on them....


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GODSPEED-89-94-240SX-S13-180SX-COILOVER-DAMPER-KIT_W0QQitemZ320205985865QQihZ011QQcategoryZ33582Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

....and here's the version with 16 way dampening.

http://images.andale.com/f2/116/107/27377173/2007/12/8/1197182387601_s13_adjustable__3_.JPG

http://images.andale.com/f2/116/107/27377173/2007/12/8/1197182386944_s13_adjustable__12_.JPG

spg240sx
01-26-2008, 04:14 PM
they look almost identical to my megans... other than the gay 6 camber bolts per coilover

crazybb
01-26-2008, 04:37 PM
anybody use these yet??

DreamN
01-26-2008, 04:52 PM
^ have you even read the thread?

cfinch
01-26-2008, 05:13 PM
Who cares... They warranty them for a year and they are cheap as hell... It has to be a huge improvement over any shock/spring setup... Basically if its all that can fit in your budget and you get that much more enjoyment out of your car then in the end it's all worth it... If your driving on a more serious level than yes it's worth it to upgrade I just don't get the battle of these cheap garbage coilovers... This one sucks more then the other blah blah blah... I saw them in person and if I were on a budget then yes I would buy these... If your new to the scene you can spend the extra money on some track days which would be worth more than the marginally better and also cheap china coilovers...

Edgar
01-27-2008, 06:22 AM
Ok guys so I am planning to go talk to EMOTOR soon, what are some questions that you want for me to ask. Two guys here in town have been running these and pretty hard I would say ;) and have no complaints they say it's pretty identical to some other brands that are Zilvia friendly. How long would that last? I don't know.

Like finch says who cares they are cheap.

jrocslider
02-01-2008, 11:02 PM
i dont own any godspeed stuff but a friend of mine put one of their aluminum raidiators in his twin turbo supra and it seems alright. one thing i must say the look nice but are dirt cheep. 500 bucks is pretty cheep..... i dont know if i trust 'em but if you get em let us know how they ride


hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!! thats gotta be one of the funniest things i've heard all day. thank you and send the thanks ur friends way also.

blueshark123
02-01-2008, 11:14 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!! thats gotta be one of the funniest things i've heard all day. thank you and send the thanks ur friends way also.

Haha thanks for pointing that out lol

timlush
02-02-2008, 02:15 AM
Who cares... They warranty them for a year and they are cheap as hell... It has to be a huge improvement over any shock/spring setup...

Not really....

Maybe for ride height adjustment, but not for ride quality.

I gaurantee these are SHIT.

hotrodv
02-02-2008, 06:32 AM
so anyone yet used those coil? i'm looking for something for the daily and don't want spend too much, but also don't want too shitty ride quality..advice?

sunnys14
02-04-2008, 09:46 PM
they look exactly like megans and ksports, i cant tell the difference besides the colors

RINTHAL
02-05-2008, 09:51 AM
I think i'm gonna pick theses up for my MX83, Since they dont make coilovers for the cressida i'm gonna mod theses up. Cheap and 1 Yr warranty is all I care about because my shocks are blown anyways. I will post on how the feel....

Slidin240Wayz
02-05-2008, 09:56 AM
so anyone yet used those coil? i'm looking for something for the daily and don't want spend too much, but also don't want too shitty ride quality..advice?

Endless...Moonface...shock and strut setup...

PoorMans180SX
02-05-2008, 11:58 AM
This thread is still alive?

Do people seriously think these are worth money?

At the very least get Stance/KTS/Tein. Why support more Taiwanese knockoffs?

By now everyone should know that a Koni/GC setup will be the best for ride quality without spending lots of cash. You just have to put a little more work and time into it. Do it the right way.

GabeS14
02-05-2008, 02:18 PM
1 year warranty?? only 450 on ebay...
their distributor is only 20 miles away???
yes i think they are worth the money..
i will be buying a set for my s14..
i know people that have the megans on they fully built s14 s worth over 20grand...
we need to stop the hate for cheap products..its like brainwash. go by personal or know experiences not by price...jesus christ...
make your own decisions...
its not "cool" to pay for overpiced products...
i will defenitly post reviews as soon as they are installed...
i dont care if they are copy/knock offs//or up/undergardes of another more famous part... if they do anything similar and cost a 3rd of the price they are worth it... if your are a serious competitor who beats up your car for 4 hrs a day..then you might wanna spend the extra money and get a huge name brand if you are not then go with what you can easily afford!

Twinchy
02-05-2008, 04:50 PM
I agree with Gabe ..i think i might purchase these coilovers too.. cuz my shocks are pretty much done on my car right now and my RSR springs dont give me that good of a drop anyways.. i only dd my car anways nothing else really

ripnbst
02-05-2008, 05:00 PM
I think i'm gonna pick theses up for my MX83, Since they dont make coilovers for the cressida i'm gonna mod theses up. Cheap and 1 Yr warranty is all I care about because my shocks are blown anyways. I will post on how the feel....


Not to rain on your parade but you talked about valuing the warranty and modding them. If you mod them you are also voiding your warranty. GUARANTEE it. It also states that to claim something under warranty they must have been installed by a professional tuning shop. I dont know about you guys but I would be installing these myself so the warranty is a moot point anyhow.

PoorMans180SX
02-05-2008, 05:25 PM
Edit: never mind then, do what you want.

Bobafreak
02-05-2008, 05:32 PM
Sorry I support companies that do the R&D themselves. Have fun.

Think before you post.

PoorMans180SX
02-05-2008, 05:39 PM
Bleh, whatever. I'm tired of trying to convince people. Edited above post.

Rockogtr
02-05-2008, 06:32 PM
I think I might give them a shot on my project car... I'll also make a review when I get them in,may not be for a little bit...till all the salt is off the road, I'll be useing them for a daily/weekend warrior

jussjepbrox
02-08-2008, 08:45 PM
ill try em im on a budget ive went from cut springs to JIC coils to shock n spring to STANCE Pros been drifting for a while if these get me sideways with not alot of body roll im happy
ill let you know how they feel ill be the test dummy if they break oh well buy sum new ones

RINTHAL
02-14-2008, 03:57 PM
Not to rain on your parade but you talked about valuing the warranty and modding them. If you mod them you are also voiding your warranty. GUARANTEE it. It also states that to claim something under warranty they must have been installed by a professional tuning shop. I dont know about you guys but I would be installing these myself so the warranty is a moot point anyhow.LOL YOUR TOTALLY RIGHT! I had to re-read what i said, oh well cheap solution for now as long as it gives me some track time some with no or little body roll and a semi decent drop whatever, i will just wait until theses blow. Either this or buy used s13 coilovers off of ebay that are probally leaking for the cressida i have no other choice GC sucks for heavyier cars and their is next to no aftermarket in shocks or springs in the states and rare to get from japan for my car. oh well expect an review write up on these next month from me as a DD and weekend events

Bobafreak
02-14-2008, 04:53 PM
There doing group buys on this actually. 70.00 off the 499.99 cost(height adjustable and has the pillow mount.). I dont know but you cant beat that. They also are the same manufactures of megan and apexi emotors actually purchases off of godspeed to let you know as well Since i heard it brought up.

KA24DESOneThree
02-15-2008, 09:12 AM
Cheap parts for cheap cars driven by cheap people.

If you want performance, you'll go elsewhere.

This isn't the future, where technology costs nothing. This is the present, where good performance products still cost good amounts of money. Unless you're willing to pony up that money, you're not going to get a competitive product. Hell, you're not going to get a decent product. You're not entitled to anything by these companies, and they sure as hell aren't making all these cheap suspension parts as a favor to the S-chassis community.

We need to continue the hate for cheap products. Do they bring performance to the hands of many? Not really, no. They bring a semblance of performance, mostly adjustability, to people who can't tell the difference. If you guys want to continue to buy absolute junk and pretend that it's the best stuff ever, feel free. I'll just continue to tell you guys you bought a gilded turd, and some of you will realize it and look back with disdain at your own stupidity.

:keke:

Edgar
02-15-2008, 08:16 PM
Support whatever works is what I say.

Jadeskyline
02-15-2008, 08:25 PM
Support whatever works is what I say.

agreed

freddy bov's, ebay intercoolers, meagan, ksports, they all work. these cars are wayyyy to old to spend 2000 on wheels and 2500 on suspension to ride around town in. viva los cheapo parts!!!!

fliprayzin240sx
02-15-2008, 08:26 PM
If Megans have a tendency to start feeling spongy after a year or so, I wonder how long itll take before these start feeling like sagging ass too...but hey if theyre from the same company who manufacture MRs, thats great.

I like these better...
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/P2070060.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/P2070061.jpg

PuffinPuffer
02-15-2008, 08:44 PM
not bad of a price, i wanna know how long they last

Taniguchi_Is_#1
02-15-2008, 08:55 PM
If Megans have a tendency to start feeling spongy after a year or so, I wonder how long itll take before these start feeling like sagging ass too...but hey if theyre from the same company who manufacture MRs, thats great.

I like these better...


for $5000, you better like them more.

PoorMans180SX
02-15-2008, 09:41 PM
for $5000, you better like them more.

You paid $5000? You have 3-way adjustables?

Because they're only $2600 for single-adjustable ones.

+1 for Flipsprayin' ! Let me know how they are will you?

racepar1
02-15-2008, 09:51 PM
How the hell is this thread still alive? LET IT DIIIIEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Taniguchi_Is_#1
02-15-2008, 09:51 PM
You paid $5000? You have 3-way adjustables?

Because they're only $2600 for single-adjustable ones.

+1 for Flipsprayin' ! Let me know how they are will you?

aragosta's is moneyzzzzz. they are good shit, but not everyone can afford that. make do with what you can. not everyone here is aiming to be orido.

that's not to say that good, quality parts aren't worth it or not good or etc, some people would just rather spend that money on food (i.e. things they need to survive). having a cool car is relative to the owner. if these make it look cool to them, whatever. we don't all make bank for HKS, trust, blitz, etc etc, and i for one don't knock a man for what he does to feed his family. do what you can afford to do.

haz-e
02-15-2008, 10:39 PM
Cheap parts for cheap cars driven by cheap people... S-chassis community.

We need to continue the hate for cheap products. Do they bring performance to the hands of many? Not really, no. They bring a semblance of performance, mostly adjustability, to people who can't tell the difference. If you guys want to continue to buy absolute junk and pretend that it's the best stuff ever, feel free. I'll just continue to tell you guys you bought a gilded turd, and some of you will realize it and look back with disdain at your own stupidity.

:keke:

Cheap *cough* KBB price for a used S13 is $1500-2000 in Washington with 150k on the odometer. S14 $4800-7000. My fish tank was $1500; thats right a fresh water house for fucking fishes. Seems like you don't understand exported labor. Sure Godspeed coils 'may' be crap but compared to $5000 Penskes; for some its worth it. Most of us only verbalize our desire and big hopes to hit an autocross or circuit track so are these high dollar parts worth it? Parts for cars are relative to the cars price. ECU tune for EVO $800, E/DE $200. Hamman Stage 3 engine kit for Ferrari $SIXDIGITS, Built KA/SR $10k if you cannot do the work yourself. I'm no expert but I'm willing to bet these Godspeed Coils cost $100-200 from raw metal to finished product, Penskes can't be much more.

racepar1
02-15-2008, 10:51 PM
Cheap *cough* KBB price for a used S13 is $1500-2000 in Washington with 150k on the odometer. S14 $4800-7000. My fish tank was $1500; thats right a fresh water house for fucking fishes. Seems like you don't understand exported labor. Sure Godspeed coils 'may' be crap but compared to $5000 Penskes; for some its worth it. Most of us only verbalize our desire and big hopes to hit an autocross or circuit track so are these high dollar parts worth it? Parts for cars are relative to the cars price. ECU tune for EVO $800, E/DE $200. Hamman Stage 3 engine kit for Ferrari , Built KA/SR $10k if you cannot do the work yourself. I'm no expert but I'm willing to bet these Godspeed Coils cost $100-200 from raw metal to finished product, Penskes can't be much more.


You are an IDIOT! Shocks are one of the most important things on your car! Nobody is telling anyone that they HAVE to go out and spend a crapload of money on some pro-spec penskes or ohlins. If all you're gunna do is daily drive then just get some TEIN flexes. Their bearings are top-notch the shocks work well and the fit/finish and quality control processes are top-notch as well. It is well worth the extra $600 or so you would have to spend. Also there is no excuse for not going out and participating in autocross/track events if you are interested in them. It is really not that expensive and there are racetracks and autocross events all over the place, and they are not that expensive to participate in.

GabeS14
02-15-2008, 11:04 PM
i guess you can either go spend 400 bucks of godspeed, and have coilovers now, and if they really do get spongy after about one year, then you can just buy another set!!!!!!!!!
lol.. or maybe just save up money at that rate and buy some "real coils" 4 years later that cost 1600...lol

just pure hate for cheap products without any knowledge of them is pure fucking ignorance, fucking guys barely making 30k a year buying 3000 dolar suspension for a 500 dolar car.,.hey thats real fucking smart!
and most dont even track the cars...

SO fucking pay attention ...Do you see anyone in this thread saying hey I am a D1 driver ...do you think godspeed coils are the right ones for me?
no you dont so dont bring this talk about comparing these coils to $5000 dolar coils..

haz-e
02-15-2008, 11:19 PM
I ran Tein HEs (car was corner balanced) for 6 months. Entry level coils yes, daily yes. Sold yes.

Ran Koni Yellows (8611). Great shocks for a great price. Loved them. Sold them with the car.

Decided to go cheap on my newer beater. Kyb Agx w/RSR springs. Honestly feel the same as the yellows.

I daily drive my coupe. Roads in Wa are rough.

No I dont see any D1 driver question suspension. Never made that statement. I simply stated exactly what you did. The Penske comparision was to simply point out S Chassis are cheap cars. If someone is questioning these for they're S Chassis then chances are budget matters. Real coils for 1600...maybe used Ohlins.

racepar1
02-15-2008, 11:20 PM
Everytime I have ever sacrificed quality so that I could have them now I regretted it. You will too when your upper mount bearings are banging around in 2 months. Regardless of what you are doing with the car, quality suspension matters. If all you care about is the super gangsta, almost dragging your fucking frame on the ground, stance so that you can hard park it with stizzyle then you are an idiot and you will buy idiot parts. HAVE FUN WITH THAT!

japanbran
02-15-2008, 11:28 PM
my buddy bought them to try out. they ride great. not as stiff as K sport, handle really good, i like them. if i didnt have coilovers already, i would have bought them also

GabeS14
02-15-2008, 11:36 PM
I ran Tein HEs (car was corner balanced) for 6 months. Entry level coils yes, daily yes. Sold yes.

Ran Koni Yellows (8611). Great shocks for a great price. Loved them. Sold them with the car.

Decided to go cheap on my newer beater. Kyb Agx w/RSR springs. Honestly feel the same as the yellows.

I daily drive my coupe. Roads in Wa are rough.

No I dont see any D1 driver question suspension. Never made that statement. I simply stated exactly what you did. The Penske comparision was to simply point out S Chassis are cheap cars. If someone is questioning these for they're S Chassis then chances are budget matters. Real coils for 1600...maybe used Ohlins.
dont get me wrong, i agree with you, I was talkign about KAdeSone three's statement, hes cool dude but i dont agree with what he said..about continuing the hate for cheap products..
cuz it doesnt make sense in my opinion..

s13.dark1
02-15-2008, 11:39 PM
well there is someone that has tried them out and likes them, me personaly i wouldnt get them just cause they r on ebay. like my boy says go big or go home

GabeS14
02-15-2008, 11:44 PM
there are 3 or 4 posts of guys who ahve them or drove in a casr with them or has a cose friend that has them, and all comments where positive.
all negative comments i heard or read, where from people saying..

"if they are cheap they are shit!"
i would rather take the opinion of an actual user...
just like the megan racing exhaust manifolds, peopel ragged ont hem since they came out.. my buddy has had his for over 2 years now on a 370hp S13, and i have mine now on my S14 with GT2871r, for almost a year, and they are fucking great, or mayeb i could have spent 1200 and gotten some crazy japanese brand because it would add +2 hp!

racepar1
02-16-2008, 12:01 AM
there are 3 or 4 posts of guys who ahve them or drove in a casr with them or has a cose friend that has them, and all comments where positive.
all negative comments i heard or read, where from people saying..

"if they are cheap they are shit!"
i would rather take the opinion of an actual user...
just like the megan racing exhaust manifolds, peopel ragged ont hem since they came out.. my buddy has had his for over 2 years now on a 370hp S13, and i have mine now on my S14 with GT2871r, for almost a year, and they are fucking great, or mayeb i could have spent 1200 and gotten some crazy japanese brand because it would add +2 hp!

UMMMM..... Spelling, grammar and sentence structure are highly reccomended man. Back to the point though. You have to be careful about what cheap crap you buy. I have the godspeed sway bars and so far I have NO complaints at all, other than the cheap ass rubber bushings (which I am currenly machining a solution for). But they are just a couple of fucking metal bars! No moving parts, nothing to wear out. Your megan manifold is just some fucking metal tubes that are welded together, not too complicated. Coilovers on the other hand are complicated moving parts with multiple catastrophic failure points and LOTS of moving, wearable parts. What happens if my sway bars break? I get pissed and buy a REAL set of bars. What happens if your exhaust manifold cracks? You have an annoying exhaust leak and you get pissed and buy some real headers. What happens if the mounting brackets break on the godspeed coils, or the upper mount bearing pops out, or the rear mounting bushing rips out, while you are going 70mph on the freeway? You destroy your car and hopefully aren't dead, or even worse paralysed. You can pick up a set of only slightly used (like for 3-6months) TEINs on the forums for $1000 or under shipped to your door. Why risk it?

s13.dark1
02-16-2008, 12:05 AM
im not raggin on the product, bbut i wouldnt get it from ebay!! there is nothing wrong witha product just cause its not over priced. yes some people like them good, im trying the magen tracks coilovers on my car and they r stiffer then my boys tien ones. and im not "actual" member cause im to lazy to set up my pay pal. i dont mind red squars by the way.

fliprayzin240sx
02-16-2008, 12:53 AM
Only reason I would pay for quality/PROVEN products is because I hate doing shit over again. Unknown/knockoff products just have a tendency to not last or have some issues. People who could afford name brands have a tendency to buy them because of peace of mind to simply put. Some of us actually hate wrenching on our cars every damn wk end because something is fucked up with it. This mentality goes with almost every after market pieces out there with any moving parts on it. I have no problem buying knock off pieces that wont potentially kill me or ruin my car for the most part. What damage could a knock off subframe collar, strutbar, shiftknob, pedals gonna do to my car? Exhaust, elbows, manifolds, pulleys, im already iffy. Cuz if they suck, I just hate changing them again and wasting my money. While coilovers wont potentially cause me to wreck, but them blowing out after a yr, just outside the warranty would kinda blow. Again Id rather have parts that would last so I wont have to change them again for a lot longer than 1 yr. Suspension arms gets kinda iffy, if they break, I could be assed out if im on the freeway doing 80mph when they go out...

Again this is my opinion for myself. Im not gonna say im right or wrong, im saying this is my experience buying parts on my car. Certain parts I could really care less, some things are preferrence...if you wanna rock godspeed, more power to you.

Then theres the whole arguement that other people have on how knock offs take business away from the legit companies that does their R&D and then gets ripped off by these companies...its true and all but as a consumer, alot of people dont care about that fact since they dont see the big picture. You take away business from the legit companies, you will basically force them to save money and come out with inferior products, or raise their prices some more or worst case, got out of business all together...

thedecapitator
02-16-2008, 01:11 AM
i want to see someone give a damn review that actually has them on their cars... im tired of seeeing the omg do it right the first time so u dont have to do it again crap.... brand name shit is overpriced and good thing cheap knock off shit is coming out because im sure thats what the other megans and ksports are crap i mean they are like 880retail and for half the price and 1yr. warranty why not and they probably made right next door to the megans:keke:
240 OWNERS ARE CHEAP! ITS A LOT BETTER TO SPEND MONEY ON KNOCK OFFS SO DOWN THE ROAD I DONT SEE YOUR CAR ON THE FOR SALE SECTION WANTING 13-20 G'S FOR AN OLD ASS S13 TRYING TO GET ALL YOUR MONEY BACK FROM BUYING BRAND NAME SHIT!!:loco:

drift freaq
02-16-2008, 01:13 AM
I will just say this. I would not be a bit surprised if someone got these coilovers (Godspeed) felt they worked and rode great for the first 500-1k miles than they turned into bouncy ass shit.

Sorry but I have seen this all too often with the budget priced coils on the market these days. Now someone buy these and prove my statement wrong. I am throwing the challenge out there. Honestly my above statement is why I am going with a custom Koni setup. Its less expensive than high end Japanese coils and will ride nicer.

I consider a custom Koni setup to be a great deal for our chassis's. If more people got off the whole, building your own coil setup with sleeves and custom springs its not a real coilover assumption and the stupidity behind that assumption. There might be less of these threads asking about cheap coilovers that will probably fail in the long run.

racepar1
02-16-2008, 01:20 AM
I'm thinking I can modify my TEIN housings to use koni 8611 double adjustable dampers. That would fuckin rock! In my opinion koni's shocks are far better than almost ANYTHING you can get from japan.

GabeS14
02-16-2008, 02:49 AM
lol..dont take it personal man,
every time i see someone attack another persons grammar its because they are taking the argument personnal..
lol..
do you correct your girl friends text messages when she says.."lol"
I luv u" etc???
no you dont..i type as I speak ........so if i add 14 periods in between my frazes.........instead of a comma, its because i fell that expresses my method of speaking.......and if I dont use capitol letters at teh beginnign of frazes or after periods its because ia m typing fast and i am not in school or trying to impress any one..i just dont give a fukk..
comprende?
but yea i was in such a hurry to leave that i do admit that post was a fukked up... goddamn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you should try it, makes it more fun!

timlush
02-16-2008, 09:56 AM
Not really....

Maybe for ride height adjustment, but not for ride quality.

I gaurantee these are SHIT.


Who keeps neg repping me for saying these are junk?

Why would anyone think that a $500 set of coilovers would be worth anything. TOO many cheap people on here :rolleyes:

Cake Is Dope
02-16-2008, 10:31 AM
Ummmm ok, i just read the whole four pages. Does ANYONE have pics?? i seen the pics a few pages back of them installed. But i want to see pics of them with wheels on the ground, i want to see how LOW these can go...THANKS

KA24DESOneThree
02-16-2008, 12:05 PM
Support whatever works is what I say.

But they don't work! That's the whole problem. The dampers are completely and utterly improperly valved and the springs are too cheap to be of real quality.

Do you know why brand name stuff is expensive? You're buying that brand. You're buying a symbol of quality and innovation that's on podium-finishing race cars. You're buying parts tested by actual race drivers on actual race tracks, rather than ripped off other knock-off manufacturers. You're buying years of expertise and knowledge.

This isn't about how much in raw materials goes into a product, or even the amount of time from start to finish. Penskes and other dampers built for a certain car or a certain track require more skill to assemble and more skill to decide on valving rates.

PS- I love the "how low can they go?" question. That way you KNOW the person isn't interested in performance.

racepar1
02-16-2008, 01:56 PM
^^^^ Yup "how low can you go?" makes me LOL! Only hard-parker fan-boys ask that shit!

jackjack
02-16-2008, 02:18 PM
a friend of mine just picked up a set last week. got them from someone local that didnt need them anymore (crashed car). he had no clue what they were, but i was assuming emotor (pics from edgar @ driftindy). we havent had a chance to install them yet........ cold, and no hurry. when we do, i'll be sure to post pics.

Cake Is Dope
02-16-2008, 02:24 PM
^^^^ Yup "how low can you go?" makes me LOL! Only hard-parker fan-boys ask that shit!

haha i hate wheel gap! i been rocking stance for a few months now.. im jus curious to see the ride height thats all, i want to know.. some one i know had a set of coilovers (NON S-Chassis) maxed out and still had small wheel gap, he could care less about the way they performed he just wanted to tuck a little, he would of been better off with a spring/strut combo

Dripht240
02-16-2008, 02:36 PM
You destroy your car and hopefully aren't dead, or even worse paralysed. You can pick up a set of only slightly used (like for 3-6months) TEINs on the forums for $1000 or under shipped to your door. Why risk it?


have to say i agree with the first part of this, but being one of those under 40k/year "budget-modders" myself even those 3-6 month used teins for $1000 is still kinda out of the budget... sometimes you dont know how badly they've been beaten on. 1-3000 miles is one things, but when that mileage is from drifting and track events that puts way more stress on the components than someone whos going for a more aesthetic (sp?) look. the same thing could happen on the highway with any brand... it all depends on what you want, and i may look at a set myself because i dont want to drop more money into it than its really worth...

racepar1
02-16-2008, 03:58 PM
have to say i agree with the first part of this, but being one of those under 40k/year "budget-modders" myself even those 3-6 month used teins for $1000 is still kinda out of the budget... sometimes you dont know how badly they've been beaten on. 1-3000 miles is one things, but when that mileage is from drifting and track events that puts way more stress on the components than someone whos going for a more aesthetic (sp?) look. the same thing could happen on the highway with any brand... it all depends on what you want, and i may look at a set myself because i dont want to drop more money into it than its really worth...


The thing is that TEIN has their ISO 9007 certification. That means that their quality control processes are among the best in the world. I would trust TEIN's products to stand up to anything I can dish out. With MY TEIN's I hit a large dirt embankment at about 35mph with the driver's front, caught a bit of air off of it, and fell into a 10ft deep ditch that was on the otherside of the embankment. It wasted both of my front lower control arms, broke one of my endlinks, broke one of my TEIN tension rods, and completely wiped out my pignose front end. My TEIN flex coils were 100% un-damaged, as was my 5-zigen fno1-rc wheel. I hit hard enough to lodge rocks in the bead of my tire. I can DEFINITELY vouch for the quality of TEIN's products and fno1-rc wheels. Also it is probably harder on the coils if you just daily them than if you only drive occasionally on the street and attend track events regularly. On the street you have all kinds of potholes and shit that you are beating up your coils on. On the track all you have is some curbs that will occasionally bottom the coils out.

GabeS14
02-16-2008, 05:06 PM
like i said, most people looking for them aren't D1 drivers..
so yes = hardparkers..

if you hit the track once a month i doubt you will need to spend another 2000 extra to buy super preformance coils either because you arent a pro drifter..
if you fell the need to fit in and have super expensive coils then please go ahead..
do so.. but i doubt the extra performance added will help out in your driving to highschool everyday... maybe that'll help get the point./....
so yes 400 dolar coils will do, when i am driving to and from beverly hills everyday, maybe 4 miles each way at the most.

drift freaq
02-16-2008, 05:11 PM
like i said, most people looking for them aren't D1 drivers..
so yes = hardparkers..

if you hit the track once a month i doubt you will need to spend another 2000 extra to buy super preformance coils either because you arent a pro drifter..
if you fell the need to fit in and have super expensive coils then please go ahead..
do so.. but i doubt the extra performance added will help out in your driving to highschool everyday... maybe that'll help get the point./....
so yes 400 dolar coils will do, when i am driving to and from beverly hills everyday, maybe 4 miles each way at the most.

LOL as long you don't mind how bouncy they are. LOL
Cause LA roads suck and you will feel it.

GabeS14
02-16-2008, 05:17 PM
LOL as long you don't mind how bouncy they are. LOL
Cause LA roads suck and you will feel it.
Hell yea, some of the roads ...like wilshire!!!! wooohhh..right lane is like offroading

driftyour40
02-16-2008, 05:53 PM
I was thinking about getting these because of the price, but I got a set of flex and I knew why I spent the extra money as soon as I opened the box, and felt good about spending the money as soon as I drove on them. My Cusco coilovers never felt this good.

Daily or track quality is worth it.

johngriff
02-16-2008, 08:25 PM
I've wrecked tein's and jic's.

Rode like poop, lasted the lifespan of poop on a tracked car.

Really, I would imagine that these shock boddies are of the same quality.

I would go with konis/bilsteins and custom ground control.

or.

These. All the major brands (with the exception of tanabe and zeal) are outsourcing to the same manufactures. I would imagine these are the same.

Hell, I might even try them, throw them on the track slut and give them a wurl.

racepar1
02-16-2008, 08:37 PM
like i said, most people looking for them aren't D1 drivers..
so yes = hardparkers..

if you hit the track once a month i doubt you will need to spend another 2000 extra to buy super preformance coils either because you arent a pro drifter..
if you fell the need to fit in and have super expensive coils then please go ahead..
do so.. but i doubt the extra performance added will help out in your driving to highschool everyday... maybe that'll help get the point./....
so yes 400 dolar coils will do, when i am driving to and from beverly hills everyday, maybe 4 miles each way at the most.

Nobody is arguing that a set of $2500 coils is a better solution, why do you keep saying that? I got my flexes used for $1000 shipped to my door. I am saying that the extra $600 or so for a set of good, used coils is a MUCH BETTER option than buying some crap that will be bouncing so bad that you won't be able to see the fuckin road. For your information going to the track "only" once a month is a LOT of track time. Anyone who goes to the track THAT often will most definitely benefit from the $2500 coils that you keep referring to.

aa87
02-17-2008, 01:04 AM
Everyone assumes they are so poorly matched they will bounce

they will probably be like megans and it wont even matter.

SlideWell
02-17-2008, 01:14 AM
gawd, i might just have to buy a set to lay the smack down on whatsup with these damn coils... i feel like im never gonna see the end of this lol

drift freaq
02-17-2008, 01:27 AM
I've wrecked tein's and jic's.

Rode like poop, lasted the lifespan of poop on a tracked car.

Really, I would imagine that these shock boddies are of the same quality.

I would go with konis/bilsteins and custom ground control.

or.

These. All the major brands (with the exception of tanabe and zeal) are outsourcing to the same manufactures. I would imagine these are the same.

Hell, I might even try them, throw them on the track slut and give them a wurl.

I do not know about current Tanabe but old Tanabe's were built by KYB to Tanabe's specs.

SilviaBricks
02-17-2008, 02:22 AM
If anyone can find these coils in the high 300 low 400 range id pick them up, install em, and write a decent review.

s13.dark1
02-17-2008, 01:03 PM
i got 2 red squares from 2 post that i made lol no love!

jackjack
02-17-2008, 01:47 PM
If anyone can find these coils in the high 300 low 400 range id pick them up, install em, and write a decent review.


thats how much they were for the test vehicles. you wont find a price like that unless you find something used.

veilside180sx
02-17-2008, 03:46 PM
Haz-e I don't recall you having 8611's. They were probably just yellows, and there is a considerable difference between them.

I ran Tein HEs (car was corner balanced) for 6 months. Entry level coils yes, daily yes. Sold yes.

Ran Koni Yellows (8611). Great shocks for a great price. Loved them. Sold them with the car.

Decided to go cheap on my newer beater. Kyb Agx w/RSR springs. Honestly feel the same as the yellows.

I daily drive my coupe. Roads in Wa are rough.

No I dont see any D1 driver question suspension. Never made that statement. I simply stated exactly what you did. The Penske comparision was to simply point out S Chassis are cheap cars. If someone is questioning these for they're S Chassis then chances are budget matters. Real coils for 1600...maybe used Ohlins.

Gnnr
02-17-2008, 10:32 PM
we need to stop the hate for cheap products..its like brainwash. go by personal or know experiences not by price...jesus christ...
make your own decisions...
its not "cool" to pay for overpiced products...

Thats not the right way to go about things either. The best way is to look at the performance numbers we can get from useful methods of measure. Almost every component in a car can be tested. Coilovers can also be tested, more specifically the shocks and the springs they contain. We can put a shock on a shock dyno and measure its performance the same way we can put an engine on an engine dyno to see if a part or modification gives us any noticeable improvement.

The problem is that these coilovers are most likely like every other asian coilover on the market. Unless testing on a shock dyno proves otherwise, that is what will be assumed. Personally I can't only go off the "butt dyno" of other people because that is very subjective. Numbers on the other hand, don't lie.

I agree, it is not cool to pay a high price for a product just to pay a high price, that makes no sense. But there is a reason that quality products cost more than its inferior counterpart. Supply and Demand.

http://www.mikeonads.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/supply_demand_11.JPG

There is a high demand for quality products and a supply lower than the demand, this drives the price higher. And we can really get into that, but thats a whole 'nother issue.

Anyways, back on track, there are many affordable shocks (Koni, KYB, and Tokico to name a few) that are proven to perform better than the stock shocks and which you can combine with a set of quality springs. So I can't say that price is the true advantage for these Godspeed coilovers. The only "advantage" to these Godspeed coilovers is that they're height adjustable and can possibly go "really low".

Their dampening adjustability is something that can be argued even further. Since most of these coilovers are terribly valved and unbalanced and don't even adjust what needs to be.

So for someone who cares more about price and looks, this will probably be a good choice. Someone who cares more about price and performance they'll probably be looking into a proven setup like Koni/KYB/Tokico and for someone who cares more about performance and is on a higher budget, they're probably looking at customizable, high end proven solution anyways...

Nismo2Forty
02-17-2008, 11:13 PM
Hes asking for reviews on these coilovers, you know, experience with them... not to repeat the same thing over and over again.

simple13
02-18-2008, 12:37 AM
Im new to this site and after reading alllll of these pages i can tell this is where i need to be! LOL!

KA24DESOneThree
02-18-2008, 08:51 AM
Hes asking for reviews on these coilovers, you know, experience with them... not to repeat the same thing over and over again.

The real thing is that there are very few people on this site qualified to give a review.

Most people who "review" coilovers are hardparking street-driving e-brake crankers.

GabeS14
02-18-2008, 11:57 PM
but at least something...at least they can get a p[ersonal opinion to know if the coilovers are at least similar to other cheap brands, ride quality stiffness height, and it doesnt matter if they are hardparkers, e brake pulling bitches lol..because they are the same people that are asking for reviews,, so leave it between them..

timtiminy
02-20-2008, 06:10 PM
anyone know if the megan rear lower mounts to use the z32 uprights and the front extended brackets will work on these? http://www.meganracing.com/uploadImage/regular/DSC04663x10.jpg (http://www.meganracing.com/uploadImage/regular/DSC04663x10.jpg)http://www.meganracing.com/uploadImage/regular/DSC05092.JPG (http://www.meganracing.com/uploadImage/regular/DSC05092.JPG)

danman04x
02-20-2008, 08:35 PM
What do you all think about the stance gr sport? They are under 1000 also

WERDdabuilder
02-20-2008, 08:55 PM
^you should search. 91283981283 threads on stance/reviews.

GabeS14
02-20-2008, 10:09 PM
mmmmm... what is this "search" thing you all speak of???
does it include thinking?

Rockogtr
02-22-2008, 05:27 AM
i just ordered a set from the group buy so when i get them on ill let you guys know how they are...

Dirty Habit
02-22-2008, 07:52 AM
i just ordered a set from the group buy so when i get them on ill let you guys know how they are...


Please do.
5 pages of arguing, no pictures or actual reviews of the product by those who actually own it and use it.
We're better than that.

KA24DESOneThree
02-22-2008, 07:55 AM
Please do.
5 pages of arguing, no pictures or actual reviews of the product by those who actually own it and use it.
We're better than that.

... and I already told you that the reviews are amateur at best.

How a crappy coilover rides in contrast to another crappy coilover? How badly it bounces versus how badly another bounces?

Please. This is ridiculous, and you guys are eating it up.

Nismo2Forty
02-22-2008, 11:36 AM
... and I already told you that the reviews are amateur at best.

How a crappy coilover rides in contrast to another crappy coilover? How badly it bounces versus how badly another bounces?

Please. This is ridiculous, and you guys are eating it up.

Please. Thats all they are looking for, these coilover are for amateurs... not professionals. Who cares, if you have nothing to contribute, quit whining and ignore the thread.

I dont know how you compare other coilovers but thats usually how people review. Their own view (whether they are amateur or a pro coilover reviewer, who cares, its not like you will ever buy them) and then say whether its better than another coilover they've had experience with or its their first coilover. People are looking for experiences with them thats it.

I'm not on either side of this drama, but just let it go and leave them be, its their car and their decision, theirs no point in arguing with everyone.

Bobafreak
02-22-2008, 11:42 AM
wooooo! you need to join the blue side.

MiaS13
02-26-2008, 05:05 PM
i find it funny that a thread like this would of gotten this out of hand. and alot of the people that are commenting have absolutly no experience with this company. i respect the opinion of the people that HAVE tried products from this company, because in the end they are the only ones that knows whats the "real deal". ive never tried them nor have i ridden in car that has them so i am in no position to comment. i on the otherhand have done some homework and spent some time on the phone with one of their main distributors and came up with some nice info.

-these are made in the same factory as megans and ksports and are direct knockoffs of the N1's.
-the warranty will cover anything that is not CLEARLY VISUAL brute damage
- the warranty covers ALL PARTS.
- they have some baller customer service
honestly i track my car 2 times a month and yea indulge in some "e brake cranking" at my own leisure. but just like many of us i dont have money growing in my backyard. so we have to make due with what we have. i am personally going to invest in a pair of these for my car and i will be writing a review on them. i have driven on megans, stance, tiens so i have a something to base my review on.

Donesyboy
02-26-2008, 05:14 PM
i find it funny that a thread like this would of gotten this out of hand. and alot of the people that are commenting have absolutly no experience with this company. i respect the opinion of the people that HAVE tried products from this company, because in the end they are the only ones that knows whats the "real deal". ive never tried them nor have i ridden in car that has them so i am in no position to comment. i on the otherhand have done some homework and spent some time on the phone with one of their main distributors and came up with some nice info.

-these are made in the same factory as megans and ksports and are direct knockoffs of the N1's.
-the warranty will cover anything that is not CLEARLY VISUAL brute damage
- the warranty covers ALL PARTS.
- they have some baller customer service
honestly i track my car 2 times a month and yea indulge in some "e brake cranking" at my own leisure. but just like many of us i dont have money growing in my backyard. so we have to make due with what we have. i am personally going to invest in a pair of these for my car and i will be writing a review on them. i have driven on megans, stance, tiens so i have a something to base my review on.

alright alright alright i can respect that = ]
when i get a 240 im gonna dive into suspension first so that would be great...i had megans on my MR2 and they were totally rockable good shizz

handinpants
02-26-2008, 10:23 PM
hey BustedS13 you buy em i'll ride em....


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GODSPEED-TYPE-SS-89-94-S13-240SX-SUSPENSION-COILOVER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33582QQihZ011Q QitemZ320205985008QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

IT'S OKAY THIS ISN'T A FOR SALE THREAD. DON'T PANIC

http://images.andale.com/f2/116/107/27377173/2007/12/16/S13-S14_NO_ADJUSTABLE__5_.JPG

http://images.andale.com/f2/116/107/27377173/2007/12/16/1197859616350_S13-S14_NO_ADJUSTABLE__6_.JPG

http://images.andale.com/f2/116/107/27377173/2007/12/16/1197326267157_S13-S14_NO_ADJUSTABLE__4_.JPG

http://images.andale.com/f2/116/107/27377173/2007/12/16/S13-S14_NO_ADJUSTABLE__7_.JPG

this one's $619 shipped. who's our guinea pig?

driftage240
02-26-2008, 10:34 PM
not bad for the price

KA24DESOneThree
02-26-2008, 11:25 PM
Buy what you want, I'm giving up.

If you won't listen to the truth, I'll let you buy the gilded turds.

Neejay
02-27-2008, 12:38 AM
Anyone that bought a pair have any updates?

I don't care about theories, opinions, etc. if you haven't tested them out. Megans got the same crap when they first came out. Now I've heard more good things about them than bad.

sunnys14
02-27-2008, 12:39 AM
Megans and all those cheap coilover are probably made from the same factory anyways.

Just like everything else in this world, there are few big companies who sell to vendors with relabeled products.

GabeS14
02-27-2008, 01:54 AM
Agree...aaahhh cant wait till i get back from my vacation in MArch in Miami, gonna buy my new hood and get these coils, and slam them ...then when haters ask what i put on my S14.. and it looks badass.. I am gonna say Godspeed!!!!
but yea.. keep saving money to buy $2000 coilovers if you want..maybe about this time in a couple years you might be able to afford them and put them on your bucket that cost less then the coils themselves....and..pretending you are a pro drifter..while you drive it back and forth to school and work..
its up to you..

MiaS13
02-27-2008, 04:10 AM
hey BustedS13 you buy em i'll ride em....
FagInPants. lets keep the childish low blow attempts to a minimum

shawn240sx
02-27-2008, 04:24 AM
Has anyone seen these for $470 shipped???
i am curious and very interested in these for that price they are definietly worth a try....

StaticX27
02-27-2008, 11:56 AM
... and I already told you that the reviews are amateur at best.

How a crappy coilover rides in contrast to another crappy coilover? How badly it bounces versus how badly another bounces?

Please. This is ridiculous, and you guys are eating it up.

As sad as it is, that amatuer first hand information has considerably more merit than professional 3rd hand experience. If you've never seen then, never touched them, never seen the shock dynos, how can you make judgements on them? You've never seen any data regarding the valving on these, so how do you know it's crap? Just because they look like megans and k2's? What if they're just in the same casing as megans, but they have bilstein inserts? Are they still crap then?

I mean the "professionals" are making a number of baseless comments about these coilovers and have absolutely nothing to support their statements. Chances are you are right about these, they are probably your regular china knock off special, but I wouldn't discourage people from trying it out, since there's literally 5 pages of not answering the OP's question.

Neejay
02-27-2008, 11:59 AM
As sad as it is, that amatuer first hand information has considerably more merit than professional 3rd hand experience. If you've never seen then, never touched them, never seen the shock dynos, how can you make judgements on them? You've never seen any data regarding the valving on these, so how do you know it's crap? Just because they look like megans and k2's? What if they're just in the same casing as megans, but they have bilstein inserts? Are they still crap then?

I mean the "professionals" are making a number of baseless comments about these coilovers and have absolutely nothing to support their statements. Chances are you are right about these, they are probably your regular china knock off special, but I wouldn't discourage people from trying it out, since there's literally 5 pages of not answering the OP's question.
Well said.

I also think sometimes "professionals" tend to be TOO critical. I would assume they notice things that the average "amateur" wouldn't notice, nor care about.

Nismo2Forty
02-27-2008, 02:56 PM
Buy what you want, I'm giving up.

If you won't listen to the truth, I'll let you buy the gilded turds.

good, shut up and bitch somewhere else. Go use your "golden" turds and make your own thread.

--------------------------
Finally people with sense are coming in here... but again, we've stated we dont need professionals to review these so no need to beat a dead horse, but we need someone who has these....

Someone will buy them eventually and speak up.

GabeS14
02-27-2008, 03:11 PM
Has anyone seen these for $470 shipped???
i am curious and very interested in these for that price they are definietly worth a try....

Last time i checked ebay that was the cheaper price i found most expensive was about 600..that was a month or so ago so not sure if it went up..but i would call fatboy garage and try to work out a deal!they sell all godspeed stuff..
i have the radiator and its great...these coils will be next..

Bobafreak
02-27-2008, 03:17 PM
or you can ask me gabe. wth!........ your a premie tooo..... pshhhhh better hop on it!

Nismo2Forty
02-27-2008, 03:24 PM
or you can ask me gabe. wth!........ your a premie tooo..... pshhhhh better hop on it!

you have the godspeed coils for really cheap?? I cant see the thread because im not a premie...

I might just get them for the hell of it, i'm in the process of building a rb s14... it might be worth it for me to get the car rolling, not sure what i'm gonna do yet.

I might end up later going for the custom koni/ground control eventually, but thats not until the cars running perfect.

GabeS14
02-27-2008, 03:32 PM
or you can ask me gabe. wth!........ your a premie tooo..... pshhhhh better hop on it!

pm me your price picked up please..
I will post and avertise on here ..after install..and its not gonna be on a old dirty bucket.

jackjack
02-27-2008, 03:46 PM
Last time i checked ebay that was the cheaper price i found most expensive was about 600..that was a month or so ago so not sure if it went up..but i would call fatboy garage and try to work out a deal!they sell all godspeed stuff..
i have the radiator and its great...these coils will be next..


werd. or you can check http://www.emotorusa.com/.

but yeah. just contact Bobafreak :rawk:

StaticX27
02-27-2008, 04:00 PM
Well said.

I also think sometimes "professionals" tend to be TOO critical. I would assume they notice things that the average "amateur" wouldn't notice, nor care about.

Professionals and amateurs tend to notice different things, this is true. If a pro actually had these and posted up numeric data, I would support what they said a lot more. Unfortunately, not many of us have access to a shock dyno, so the only thing we can do is test a few things on the street. I have a set of super streets on my car, and they're only okay. They're a little bumpy for normal driving, and grip decently on the street, but ultimately I'm not happy with them. I think I might end up going the Bilstein route, but $2500 for the shocks is a little more than I was looking to spend right now.

These coilovers are most likely the same quality as Megan / K2's, but hey for $600, who can argue? Like someone said at the beginning, its not like you're going to find a $600 Aragosta set up on eBay. But at the same time, if you can find a company who can produce the same quality as Tein's lower end models for half the price. that's worth it to your average enthusiast.

Plus hell, I'd love to go out there and say "yea, my car is rocking Godspeed!" The name is pretty damn appealing to me :)

Bobafreak
02-27-2008, 04:04 PM
yeah the cost i listed on the fs thread is 565 shipped its on my sig guys lol. Like i said this cant be beat.

Landers
02-27-2008, 04:10 PM
can someone just end this non-sense already, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. / thread

Bobafreak
02-27-2008, 04:14 PM
can someone just end this non-sense already, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. / thread
and you have megans?.........

Neejay
02-27-2008, 05:21 PM
Question: If these were $800+, would "you get what you pay for" still apply?

I'm having a hard time believing that new coilover companies would charge an arm and a leg if they were trying to get people to buy the coilovers.

DUSANMANDIC
02-27-2008, 06:08 PM
i would say most of them are made at the same place. now does different stuff go in to them yes i think so no as far as tein and cusco and shit are made in japan. so i am sure they test and test and test thats y they have a R and D section of there comp. but on that note i dont think that the taiwanese comp are going to put in the time and the money to test there suspension. well i guess what im getting at is it worth it maybe will it last as long as any of the big players most likely not will they perform as well as the others no (no rnd) thus will take u longer to get where u want them tuning wise same as megans they are not a bad coil over but take a long time to dial in. so no i dont think they are a bad buy just know what u are getting in to that something like this is not going to be for the long haul so if u want something cheap and u dont mind setting it up then i say go for it.




end of rant

GabeS14
02-27-2008, 08:19 PM
can someone just end this non-sense already, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. / thread

and you come in here to say that..just that???
END YOUR LIFE!:rl:

mothon
03-13-2008, 01:01 AM
I recieved the godspeed coilovers yesterday, and got them installed today, although i havnt had a chance to drive on them yet. The finish on them is horrible but that was to be expected. The only way i could get them to go as low as i wanted was to add lots of droop in the rear. How much droop is too much?

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/mateo04/car%20stuff/mateos096.jpg

GabeS14
03-13-2008, 01:29 AM
yet. The finish on them is horrible but that was to be expected. The only way i could get them to go as low as i wanted was to add lots of droop in the rear. How much droop is too much?

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/mateo04/car%20stuff/mateos096.jpg

What do you mean with the finish on them?? they are not like in the pictures? or the paint is messed up? or the metal is not smooth?

so you added drop in the rear to go low? well thats how you go low, by dropping them.
what about in the front? gonna keep it that height? take off your lip and drop it another 1.5 inch in front..it will look sick..
cuz right now it looks like drag car style with the front higher then rear! or maybe its cuz of the smaller/different wheels in front!


also how much did you go down? do you have any more room to drop in the rear is is it pretty much slammed?

sunnys14
03-13-2008, 02:52 AM
If you can't go any lower in the front, just remove the bottom collar, that should give you about 1/2 more drop.

projekt_s13
03-13-2008, 04:14 AM
Looks like you are using a 16" 18" stagger, I bet if you had the same size rims in the front it might look a little lower

Sonic Motor
03-13-2008, 08:09 AM
wow i just read all 6 pages of ppl arguing.. what a waste of time haha

Honestly...to the haters, these coilovers are too cheap to argue against.
I bet the shocks arent that good, and probably wont last that long.

Most people who wanna get coilovers just want to slam their car like one guy previously said...if people want to ride comfortably and reliability, stick with springs and struts.

daily driving on coilovers puts the most punishment on them. I dunno about other places, but road in LA, is really shitty.

Gabe and boba freak,, big ups to you guys, defending cheap product that makes sense.....I think its about time someone released coilovers like the Godspeed ones. I hope they will destroy the other ridiculously overpriced coilovers such MR/D2/KS/Tein and other so called "japanese" coilovers heavily defended on this forum....

WHen I get my other car ready, I will put a set of these on the car and mess around with it on the track. And see how good or crappy these are for drifting. Why? because its so stupid cheap! hahaha it cost almost as much as getting OEM replacement struts installed on your stock springs including labor!

Way cool.

khmer1
03-13-2008, 10:04 AM
readed this whole crap complete was of my time ahaha damn

god speed sound like it from an anime or video game i forgot but i heared it before from tokoyo extreme racer maybe ahaha

haha i'll try these as soon as i get the money and if i can find it for cheap
megan use to be unknow till people try them then bam there slowly rising

new era new generation new products new experience uh where was i goin with this?

as for every other company they weren't the best until some one try them and either the consumer will make that company rise or sink eh you get my point

180sx_Drifter
03-13-2008, 10:18 AM
I recieved the godspeed coilovers yesterday, and got them installed today, although i havnt had a chance to drive on them yet. The finish on them is horrible but that was to be expected. The only way i could get them to go as low as i wanted was to add lots of droop in the rear. How much droop is too much?


yes finally first hand experience plz plz post any and everything you find about these coilovers. pics would help as well especially of the bad finish you talk about and what do you plan on doing with these coils? daily or strictly all track? plz let us know as soon as you can and end this nonsense.

sergey911
03-13-2008, 11:58 PM
I recieved the godspeed coilovers yesterday, and got them installed today, although i havnt had a chance to drive on them yet. The finish on them is horrible but that was to be expected. The only way i could get them to go as low as i wanted was to add lots of droop in the rear. How much droop is too much?

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/mateo04/car%20stuff/mateos096.jpg
Y are ur front pillows silver and not red? or did u just put the godspeeds in the rear?

khmer1
03-17-2008, 09:07 PM
so any update on these and how they are??? quality and what not

Dirty Habit
03-17-2008, 09:26 PM
...as for every other company they weren't the best until some one try them and either the consumer will make that company rise or sink eh you get my point

Um, not really. I have no clue what you just said.

teamakagi
03-17-2008, 09:32 PM
Um, not really. I have no clue what you just said.



:rl: aaaaah wa????? lol

thedecapitator
03-17-2008, 09:36 PM
I recieved the godspeed coilovers yesterday, and got them installed today, although i havnt had a chance to drive on them yet. The finish on them is horrible but that was to be expected. The only way i could get them to go as low as i wanted was to add lots of droop in the rear. How much droop is too much?

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/mateo04/car%20stuff/mateos096.jpg



yes please give some feeedback on these when u can!!! :bigok:

and i agree with the above post part that is quoted ... the more ppl buy of a product it becomes known so make a drift movie with godspeed coilovers lol:hsdance:

beeracing s14
03-17-2008, 09:36 PM
just stay away from it no matter how cheap. save a little more and get a rebuildable tein.

IRN
03-17-2008, 09:40 PM
holy crap, what have i started?! didnt know my thread got this much attention. well for an update, a buddy of mine just got them a week ago and for the cash and quality, they are worth every penny compared to tokiko, eibach setups.

Kouki-Fiend
03-17-2008, 10:48 PM
So your buddy likes them eh? Have you been his car since the install? How do they ride? I want to go the GC/Koni route but I am doing a little at a time and my motor swap is next in line so I will have to wait and see. If I could find a decent cheap coil setup , i know that sounds retarded , but I would rock them for a while until I am ready for my real suspension overhaul. It's just my daily/weekend warrior at times so I am probably not going to need a $2000+ set of coils.

khmer1
03-18-2008, 01:04 PM
i think i got neg rep over here??? dang didn't even do nothing

TooForOh
03-18-2008, 02:22 PM
ok ok ok.


so basically all i want to do is get my ass to school during the weekdays.

and go visit my sweet ol' grandma who lives somewhere in the mountains (hehe) on the weekends.

im never gonna go to a track most likely and i dont drive like a maniac. right now i have blown stock set-up. so im guessing anything is better than what i have now.


my question is simple. are these good for what i want to do?


=)

Jadeskyline
03-18-2008, 03:43 PM
so the guy that posted "pics" whats goin on review maybe...,this is a hot topic you just cant post and disappear....review or BAN lol:ughug:

GabeS14
03-18-2008, 03:47 PM
so the guy that posted "pics" whats goin on review maybe...,this is a hot topic you just cant post and disappear....review or BAN lol:ughug:

Thats what i am saying....he posts a questionable picture, with different coilovers in the front, sitting in a weird stance, rags ont he coilovers and then does not respond to any more questions, I even PM'ed him asking about the different pillow's on the front and he didnt reply!???
Very Strange!!!

TooForOh
03-18-2008, 03:49 PM
so the guy that posted "pics" whats goin on review maybe...,this is a hot topic you just cant post and disappear....review or BAN lol:ughug:


i second that.


:blah:

khmer1
03-18-2008, 03:53 PM
yea i was planning on getting them waiting for a review ehh just wonna know it if decent riding with them on the streets

p.s is the coilover rebuildable??

Jadeskyline
03-18-2008, 04:14 PM
p.s is the coilover rebuildable??

most are, my buddys usually take em to house of power (local motorcycle shop) they should be able to fix em up for you another reason a few in this thread recommended buying blown ones off of ebay.....id rather buy new ones w/warranty but to each his own i guess

jed240
03-18-2008, 05:19 PM
budget & value is the way for us s13 guys. I was lookin at godspeeds from ebay but nw i m goin with tokiko hp for a similar price , not damping adjustable though but reliability over some nifty adjustability. I wouldnt buy used teins when i can buy something new, & teins arent the best shit either. buy what u can afford & justify within ur means. Most Honda guys just get lowering spring on stock struts, to each their own. I cant jusify spending the value of my car on coilovers alone. When its time to sell car u wont see much of what u put in it.

khmer1
03-18-2008, 05:25 PM
eh i know ima let you know these coilover cost the same amount as my 240 hahaha soo i guess i am looking for decent budget stuff haha yea i rather get the one with warranty also instead of blow just because

yudalicious
03-18-2008, 10:56 PM
lol what a fucking retarded thread. everyone just wants "coilovers" to lower their cars. if you're really on a budget, get some good shocks and stick with stock springs, less than $400 and put the rest towards good tires, done and done. but yal don't want that, yal want to be lower your car so it can look like it can go fast and to tell everyone you have coilovers omg coz they arez for racing!!1! fail.

GabeS14
03-19-2008, 12:32 AM
lol what a fucking retarded thread. everyone just wants "coilovers" to lower and put the rest towards good tires, done and done. but yal don't want that, yal want to be lower your car so it can look like it can go fast and to tell everyone you have coilovers omg coz they arez for racing!!1! fail.

for some reason ...I have the feeling that the reason.....your rep dropped a bit ..is because you posted a personal opinion on the thread that asks for Reviews from people that have some kind of close experience with them!
not YALS>>>personal ideas!!!!!!!!!!:down:


and yes,,, for the same reason someone would put a body kit on their car, they would also want to drop the car, because it looks good, and whats wrong with that???
I guess in your head....only cars that race are allowed to use parts to make them look good..cuz you say so..huh!!!!!!

yudalicious
03-19-2008, 01:28 AM
for some reason ...I have the feeling that the reason.....your rep dropped a bit ..is because you posted a personal opinion on the thread that asks for Reviews from people that have some kind of close experience with them!
not YALS>>>personal ideas!!!!!!!!!!:down:


ohh snap! I posted a personal opinion on a public forum, may God himself strike me down as I am typing away. oh noes, my hard earned reps are gone!


and yes,,, for the same reason someone would put a body kit on their car, they would also want to drop the car, because it looks good, and whats wrong with that???
I guess in your head....only cars that race are allowed to use parts to make them look good..cuz you say so..huh!!!!!!

The amount of stupidity in this thread made me laugh a few times. You're absolutely right, who am I to tell you anything? After all, the last guy who knew wtf he was talking about was driven out of this thread. Just buy these china factory special-of-the-week coilovers, install, slam car, go to taco bell import meet, park it hard, be happy.

TooForOh
03-19-2008, 10:24 AM
The amount of stupidity in this thread made me laugh a few times. You're absolutely right, who am I to tell you anything? After all, the last guy who knew wtf he was talking about was driven out of this thread. Just buy these china factory special-of-the-week coilovers, install, slam car, go to taco bell import meet, park it hard, be happy.


these are made in china?!?!


oh noes poor kids!!!!!!!!!!



:fruit:





p.s: somebody please review these coilovers in a nice detailed manner so this madness will end.

nasadriver
03-19-2008, 10:49 AM
Where is Boba's review? He writes about them in the for sale section, you have had them for a while now, right?

shawn240sx
03-19-2008, 10:51 AM
Just bought them....will let you guys know how they go.

TooForOh
03-19-2008, 11:17 AM
Just bought them....will let you guys know how they go.

you and like 5 other ppl said that. :aw:

Kouki-Fiend
03-19-2008, 11:30 AM
I don't think anyone will come through with a write up. We will always just get the "you get what you pay for". I can't afford $1500-$2500 coilovers at the moment so I am looking for the "next best" alternative myself.

khmer1
03-19-2008, 11:47 AM
same goes for me cant afford coilovers that cost more then my car man just cant unless your willing to donate to help a zilvia member get (so called super real ) coilovers foundation if not then what can i say i also would've bought a better 240 with that kinda cash ahaha it cool i like the "next best" alternative items myself eh it a auto dd anyways still waiting on a review thou

well i guess i just do the decent springs and shock setup for now

teamakagi
03-19-2008, 12:04 PM
same goes for me cant afford coilovers that cost more then my car man just cant unless your willing to donate to help a zilvia member get (so called super real ) coilovers foundation if not then what can i say i also would've bought a better 240 with that kinda cash ahaha it cool i like the "next best" alternative items myself eh it a auto dd anyways still waiting on a review thou

well i guess i just do the decent springs and shock setup for now

very tru i got my car for 700 bucks and yea dont want to spend 1500 which would be twice the amount i paid for the car call me cheapo but still :fawkd:

TooForOh
03-19-2008, 12:20 PM
very tru i got my car for 700 bucks and yea dont want to spend 1500 which would be twice the amount i paid for the car call me cheapo but still :fawkd:

i got mine for $2000. =(


but still i wouldnt pay another 2k when i can get another car. haha

racepar1
03-19-2008, 02:05 PM
The amount of stupidity in this thread made me laugh a few times. You're absolutely right, who am I to tell you anything? After all, the last guy who knew wtf he was talking about was driven out of this thread. Just buy these china factory special-of-the-week coilovers, install, slam car, go to taco bell import meet, park it hard, be happy.

Ya me and ka24desonethree just plain gave up! I hate how everyone keeps comparing the price of parts to the price of their cars. If you think like that you will never have a decent car! That's about as stupid as people who modify cars with the intention of making a profit when they sell them. You almost NEVER get back what you put into your modified car! That is just the way it is. I modify my car because I LOVE it, and more than that I LOVE to actually DRIVE it! I know that the total of the parts on my car are like 10x what the car is worth, but my point is not to make any money off it. I want to put the best parts that I can possibly afford to enhance the handling characteristics of my car, which in turn enhances the driving experience. It's all about having fun with your car. I feel that I can have more fun with better parts. If you just wanna hard park it at your local meet and get yourself to the fucking grocery store and back then yes these will work OK, maybe a bit bouncy, but OK. But if all you wanna do is drive around town then why own a 240? You can drive around much more comfortably and stylishly in a whole crapload of cars, some of them for less total money than it would take to build a 240 that would make you happy. EVERYONE should take their cars to the track if they are modifying them, otherwise there is no point to any mods other than shock/spring, wheels, and exhaust. Take your cars out and have fun! There is no better place to have fun in your car than the track.

Ninjabread
03-19-2008, 02:38 PM
^^ Well said.

-people who compare price of parts to their cars shouldn't be modding their cars at all.
-i HATE people that are in it because it's a fad.

fucking posers.

Neejay
03-19-2008, 02:41 PM
I kinda have to agree with that one. lol

If you're getting a 240sx for $x and also making that the ceiling for spending.......

TooForOh
03-19-2008, 02:48 PM
i think what most people are trying to say is that they dont have 2k to spend on coilovers.

so they have to go with what is 2nd best. but of course we dont know if these coilovers are a good alternative or not.

nobody reviewed it yet!

bah.

GabeS14
03-19-2008, 04:48 PM
ohh snap! I posted a personal opinion on a public forum, may God himself strike me down as I am typing away. oh noes, my hard earned reps are gone!
I think he just did..cuz it went down another 2 points!!!!!!!


The amount of stupidity in this thread made me laugh a few times. You're absolutely right, who am I to tell you anything? After all, the last guy who knew wtf he was talking about was driven out of this thread. Just buy these china factory special-of-the-week coilovers, install, slam car, go to taco bell import meet, park it hard, be happy.

Actually he wasn't driven off..he gave up because his arguments were contrary to what people that are inquiring on this thread want them for..so basically useless...

GabeS14
03-19-2008, 04:54 PM
Poser ...lol..so hopefully you dont have Aero on your car, because it does nothing for your performance...dont forget..if you have aero..you are a poser...that is basically what you just said..
..There is no rule stating that If you own a 240 you must be a drifter...
or a racer..:rant:
you may just like 240s.....:rawk:
fucking idiots...
Many of these guys like the car, but dont compete in anyway..so just DROP IT...
Who are you to call people poser..unless you lay out proof of you entire life story, and how you always had a 240..you are a poser too..(bandwagonner)
just cuz you participate in a sport doesnt make you different then someone who just is a fan of the sport!

racepar1
03-19-2008, 05:04 PM
Actually he wasn't driven off..he gave up because his arguments were contrary to what people that are inquiring on this thread want them for..so basically useless...

Quality is good for whatever you plan to use it for so nothing anyone was saying was contrary to anything. Once AGAIN, nobody is telling anybody to go out and buy the sweetest, most expensive racing spec coils for their street car! NOBODY has reccomended that, AT ALL! We are just telling you to save up the extra $600-$700 it would take to buy something decent. I don't know why everyone says "$2000 coils" soooo much in this thread! I'm talking about $1200-$1400 coils, which is a pretty big price difference to $2000. It will be worth it in the long-run to save up for a few extra months to get something that suits what you want from a reputable and respected company. Think about it. Do any of you plan to run the godspeed coils for a long time? Probably not. You want these coils to roll around on untill you get a chance to upgrade them. Why waste the $600 or so when you could just save up another $600 or so to get something you will run for years? It just doesn't make sense.

fbiphil
03-19-2008, 05:12 PM
you and like 5 other ppl said that. :aw:

Now another reason not to buy Godspeed coilovers- if you purchase them, you will disappear forever!

Or are they all enjoying them too much to be bothered with posting their findings on this forum?

We may never know... LOL

GabeS14
03-19-2008, 05:18 PM
run the godspeed coils for a long time? Probably not. You want these coils to roll around on untill you get a chance to upgrade them. Why waste the $600 or so when you could just save up another $600 or so to get something you will run for years? It just doesn't make sense.

Save money?? I dont know what that is..grrrrr...lol..
.............Understood.. you have a point..I can afford better..but right now I dont want to spend more.....I feel like checking these out....since they are cheap..right now i have the shock..spring combo.. and rarely hit the track ..
but ........
what about the ones who just want to slam their cars..
they like the scene....they like 240s..they just dont drift..they just want their car to be lowered and look better,...thats who i try to defend.. Who are we to call them posers..? comprende...
who cares if they are posers..???
If you track//Drift?Drag..good for you(anyone)
leave the guy who just wants to look good alone!

TooForOh
03-19-2008, 05:49 PM
Now another reason not to buy Godspeed coilovers- if you purchase them, you will disappear forever!

Or are they all enjoying them too much to be bothered with posting their findings on this forum?

We may never know... LOL


i think they are either enjoying them or they lied so people would fight about it.



or playing with themselves. :jerkit:

racepar1
03-19-2008, 06:21 PM
or playing with themselves. :jerkit:

I vote for that one ^^^^! LOL!

drift freaq
03-19-2008, 06:31 PM
i think what most people are trying to say is that they dont have 2k to spend on coilovers.

so they have to go with what is 2nd best. but of course we dont know if these coilovers are a good alternative or not.

nobody reviewed it yet!

bah.

The problem with your arguement here is Godspeed coilovers are far from second best. Mind you I am not saying they are shit .I really don't know about them. Though they do tend to fall into the bottom of the pile catagory on coilovers.

Now with that said, fact is this thread has turned into a sales pitch for Godspeed coilovers and technically thats against forum rules. The main people propping Godspeed coilovers, in the this thread happen to be premie members selling them.

Fact is the people arguing about saving your money and spending another $600 have a pretty good point. You can put a Ground Control/Koni Yellow setup together that I can gurantee would wipe the floor with a lot of the coilovers out there, including expensive Japanese ones. That setup will run you around $900.

Koni's are proven, Eibach ERS race springs are proven. I have yet to see Godspeeds proven.

I clearly think someone in the legion of Godspeed fans need to step up with dyno charts and more actual use info. At the present the only thing any Godspeed fan has put out, is they are dirt cheap, so they must be worth it.

You have to convince people with actual facts, to make a good sale or prove something is worth it.
I stated the Ground Control/Koni setup because Ground Control has a lot of race wins, from people using their product. Eibach ERS springs were the springs used. Koni has a long and storied winning history in motorsports as well as reputation of Gold in the damper world.

Now in the end I will reiterate any 240 owner saying he bought his car for $1500 and therefor should not spend more than $1500 on mods is going to have a poor performing almost stock pile.

Sorry guys. You want your car to be dope, handle great have good power? Its going to cost you a lot more than $1500, any way you look at it. If there was a magic deal out there to make our cars awesome for $1500, well you would not see the builds that are on this and other forums.

Don't hide behind the excuse that because you own a S13, you must be cheap because it was cheap. If your poor, you should not think about modding cars or sports cars period! In the end its just not a cheap hobby.

S13's deserve better than a piss poor attitude that because the car was purchased cheap it only should have cheap parts that don't cost more than the purchase price.

I laugh and am dismayed(all at the same time) at the current crop of cheap ass S13's owners that are literally destroying the reputation of 240sx's and their owners. You guys do a disservice to the car and the community.

khmer1
03-19-2008, 06:51 PM
ahaha damn never seen the word cheap so many times eh it whatever yah can go with the arguing ima just sit back relaxed and enjoy working with my car still rocking the sohc not really gonna mod it just the basic thou hahaha what i wrote probably has nothing to do with anything up ahead

p.s damn yah need to ease up to much tension eh it the consumers choice of if they want it or not don't bash on them

racepar1
03-19-2008, 06:55 PM
^^^ WTF? Punctuation REALLY helps people understand what the fuck you are saying! It is the consumer's choice, but if the consumer makes an uneducated choice based solely on price that is not good.

GabeS14
03-19-2008, 07:38 PM
Ok, I have a somwhat resolution, when i get back from WMC miami, probably in mid april ill get the coilovers,,, give my review..and if anyone else who might be better qualified want to drive my car and add some..I would be glad to allow it!
:coold:


unless one of the dissapeared owners that have purchased comes back to life and lets us in on the big secret!

Jadeskyline
03-19-2008, 09:04 PM
^^LMAO^^ maybe they are all sharing the same set (real definition of group buy lol) neways on a serious note i will prolly purchase these (keep my kyb and megans just in case)....i will do an install and review if noone before me does....i understand and truly see it from all angles you have on one end the arguement that your car (if you mod it) is an extension of you (personality or otherwise) and is a way to express yourself and is a hobby, you should have enuff pride in urself and car/hobby to try and use the best parts/materials available to you....and then on the other end you have guys who have spent so much money in other areas of there vehicle (paint,motors etc...)not saying its right just the way it is-that they are looking for a break somewhere....lol i dont reccommend you cheap out on things such as brakes,suspension,clutches,steering wheels (it controls the car for christs sakes so stop buying ebay specials that are loose as fuck please!!!!)thats what it boils down too....me im just curious to see if they are good,bad,or indifferent....someone on here pointed out the same issue with meagans and ksports when they first came out but people still rock them (some like some dont and some say it gets the job done... enjuku used meagans for awhile and actually endorsed them a bit) so maybe they are just using this to get folks familiar w/the name (like ksport-who sells big brake kits now WTF?????, and meagans)then drive the price up slowly.....

A.D.D. READ HERE:
cliffnotes: someone buy them or paypal me the cash and REVIEW these damn things so we can have at least some feedback preferbaly a street driver,track (auto x),and drifter then we can see more than one side....sorry for the long post lol:Ownedd:

makkie
03-19-2008, 09:33 PM
ai,i will buying dem and if i rike i telling you all.

GabeS14
03-19-2008, 10:02 PM
ai,i will buying dem and if i rike i telling you all.

WTF??
:cool:
do you speak like this in real life?
Seriously though..sounds like your stupid..
when someone doesnt see your face they understand what they see.. so dont look like a fool or you will be treated as one!

TooForOh
03-19-2008, 10:47 PM
ai,i will buying dem and if i rike i telling you all.




reminds me of scooby doo. :keke:

yudalicious
03-19-2008, 11:25 PM
Actually he wasn't driven off..he gave up because his arguments were contrary to what people that are inquiring on this thread want them for..so basically useless...

You can neg rep me as much as you want for giving my OPINION on a FORUM, but I started off this thread with 11, now I have 15, guess some people like what I have to say. I don't care if you buy them to slam your car or to put in your living room for decoration - just don't fool yourself into thinking you're getting any semblance of performance and support with these.

When a company comes out with a new product, shows that they have done at least some research and development on the product, explains why their product works or how it fits into a particular niche in the market, and actually backs up their product with support and service, they will get my support. So, where is Godspeed?

GabeS14
03-19-2008, 11:31 PM
You can neg rep me as much as you want for giving my OPINION on a FORUM,
the reason you got neg repped is because you disobeyed the rules of the thread..
let me explain..when someone starts a thread, and in the thread starter it states "any first hand experience from anyone owning a set of these"
maybe he wants opinions from "people with first hand experience" thats why you keep your personal opinions to yourself..
just liek idiots that go on the tire stretch only thread and say..stretching tires is stupid...they get neg repped..because no one asked their personal opinion..
comprende..the sooner you folow the rules of the website the better off you will be..
especially when you know nothing about the product and bash it and talk shit to some newbs who are inquiring on it..
I have some experience, bobafreak has personall experience thats why we posted..some of the coilover experts didnt have personall experience but they gave their professional opinion..
anyways you got some posi rep..because people felt bad for you..nto because they thought you were right!!!!!!!!!

GabeS14
03-19-2008, 11:38 PM
I started off this thread with 11, now I have 15, guess some people like what I have to say. ?

stupid..edit!

yudalicious
03-19-2008, 11:52 PM
the reason you got neg repped is because you disobeyed the rules of the thread..
let me explain..when someone starts a thread, and in the thread starter it states "any first hand experience from anyone owning a set of these"
maybe he wants opinions from "people with first hand experience" thats why you keep your personal opinions to yourself..
just liek idiots that go on the tire stretch only thread and say..stretching tires is stupid...they get neg repped..because no one asked their personal opinion..
comprende..the sooner you folow the rules of the website the better off you will be..
especially when you know nothing about the product and bash it and talk shit to some newbs who are inquiring on it..
I have some experience, bobafreak has personall experience thats why we posted..some of the coilover experts didnt have personall experience but they gave their professional opinion..
anyways you got some posi rep..because people felt bad for you..nto because they thought you were right!!!!!!!!!

I am very sorry that I broke the rules of this very very serious thread in the all revered chat section of this hallowed internet forum, I am seriously going to think about what I've done.

yudalicious
03-19-2008, 11:55 PM
when i First came to this thread, i had 56 rep..now i have 166...what does that say about me then..

As you said, people must feel really bad for you to throw that much posirep your way! I'm not one to get into e-fights, all useful things that should be said were said by the few sensible individuals. Btw, I look forward to hearing the awesome and technical driven reviews.

GabeS14
03-20-2008, 12:00 AM
yea cuz that makes sense, in my case huh!:bash:
like talking to a wall..but go ahead..stay in the godspeed thread..you seem to be sorta attached to it now!:goyou:

Kn1ves
03-20-2008, 12:06 AM
As you said, people must feel really bad for you to throw that much posirep your way!

there i made u go down to 14 :wackit:

quit complaining about rep, it doesnt do anything

yudalicious
03-20-2008, 12:16 AM
but go ahead..stay in the godspeed thread..you seem to be sorta attached to it now!:goyou:

Really? This invitation from the master and defender of mystery coilovers? Don't mind if I do... in all seriousness, budget alternatives that actually perform from companies that actually do RnD were given, they can be had for not much more, the choice is yours.

GabeS14
03-20-2008, 12:17 AM
Yu--da---licious??
ME--de-licious!:bigok: :keke:
yess..you can stay!

laziazn
03-20-2008, 12:22 AM
can someone please just put a review on them because i read half of this whole arguing at work and the rest at home and all i see is arguments...

people like me are just trying to see reviews on GODSPEEDS and GODSPEEDS alone.. so please just talk about them coilovers because i just want to know how they are...

because all of this arguing is pointless.. everyone has their own opinions...

drift freaq
03-20-2008, 12:31 AM
when i First came to this thread, i had 56 rep..now i have 166...what does that say about me then..

absolutely nothing......hahhahhahhahhaha J/k you knew when you said this, it was going to get you nailed :rofl:

Mlogue84
03-20-2008, 01:36 AM
Don't hide behind the excuse that because you own a S13, you must be cheap because it was cheap. If your poor, you should not think about modding cars or sports cars period! In the end its just not a cheap hobby.

I laugh and am dismayed(all at the same time) at the current crop of cheap ass S13's owners that are literally destroying the reputation of 240sx's and their owners. You guys do a disservice to the car and the community.

I couldn't agree more.... It happens to every scene though, It'll get overly populated by all the scenesters/bandwagoners then the fad fades and only the enthusiasts stay... Oh well, I guess all you can do is chuckle and learn what not to do from all the stupid stuff you hear/see.

kouki_s14
03-20-2008, 01:54 AM
can someone please just put a review on them because i read half of this whole arguing at work and the rest at home and all i see is arguments...

people like me are just trying to see reviews on GODSPEEDS and GODSPEEDS alone.. so please just talk about them coilovers because i just want to know how they are...

because all of this arguing is pointless.. everyone has their own opinions...

Buy these to slam your car, they are good for nothing else. Period. I guarantee that is not an opinion, that is FACT.

I don't care if you don't believe me.

Now to the people who actually support these coilovers:

Isn't it blatantly obvious how these coilovers will perform? Are you guys really that blind?

I guess there is no point in trying to convince any of you that these coilovers are NOT good. Not even for the money.

The 240 community has gone in the shitter. We all learn from our mistakes I guess, all of you will too.

Let the Godspeed lovers attack......

racepar1
03-20-2008, 07:31 AM
can someone please just put a review on them because i read half of this whole arguing at work and the rest at home and all i see is arguments...

people like me are just trying to see reviews on GODSPEEDS and GODSPEEDS alone.. so please just talk about them coilovers because i just want to know how they are...

because all of this arguing is pointless.. everyone has their own opinions...

Read through the thread again and this time use that thing in your head called your brain! Everyone who is hating on these coils have 100% correct reasons to dis-like them. What you have to ask yourself is: Are you willing to sacrifice quality and waste some money to have coils now? These coils are not a long term solution, they are only temporary. Almost for certain they will be a bit bouncy, the shocks will pretty much certainly wear out faster than some quality coils, and the upper mount bearings will develop play before those on good coils. These facts are pretty much undisputable. If you buy these coils you will be seeking replacements before they are 2 years old almost certainly. You could just save up an extra $600-$800 and buy some quality coils that you will use for years the first time. I cannot tell anybody what to buy, you will make up your own mind on that. I CAN attempt to educate people about the benefits of quality parts. The decision is yours to make, I just wanna make sure that you have thought it over first.

Anyone who would waste their time reviewing these coils wouldn't have a clue what to look for on good coils anyways so reviews are pretty much useless. I will give a review without even seeing them in person!

The quality of the manufacturing is ok, they ride ok (although a bit bouncy), but they work........for NOW.

There ya go that is what every review is going to sound like from anybody who knows what good coils should feel like! I don't want just "ok" on my car! If you are happy with "ok" then buy them! None of us will flame you for it (I hope), although we may chuckle about it when you aren't looking. In the end it is your choice. Make whatever choice makes you happy!

WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STOP BITCHING ABOUT REVIEWS!!! IN THE END A REVIEW IS JUST SOMEONE'S OPINION ANYWAYS AND WHO IS TO SAY WHETHER OR NOT THAT PERSON KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT!

TooForOh
03-20-2008, 10:58 AM
tl:dr....




msglengthhehehe

nasadriver
03-20-2008, 12:48 PM
Whoever said you are not going to get good performance from these coilovers, no way, no how, is an idiot. Speaking without any knowledge of a product is very stupid. For example, I could go buy a Jaguar for 80k, or a Lexus for 50k, the Lexus will be better in every way. PRICE does not always go hand in hand with QUALITY. Anyone who has bought Godspeeds front mount intercoolers knows this. Fact is, a good front mount used to cost $800-$1000, because very few people made them and there was alot of demand, with cars like the wrx coming stock with very inefficient top mounts. But now that demand has grown so much, so has supply and SUPPLIERS, promoting competition, and lowering prices. Now you can get a good FMIC for 200 dollars.

The biggest reason why coilovers cost so much is because most of these manufacturers pay out the ass for the materials they use and have small factories. Now that China is a somewhat free market, a lot of products are coming out of there for less because of all the resources they have there the products the materials cost less.

So will these be the worlds greatest coilovers? No, of course not. Will they be as good as megans or tein basics? I would almost say definately, just having taken a look at them, touching them, compressing them with my hand and looking at the quality of the materials used, they are equal in quality to tein basics that I have handled before. Of course, there are other factors that should be measured, but Tein's have been over priced for a long time, and megans are also no better than these. Japan has a horrible economy, therefore the price of materials there is going to cost more. It's just simple economics, their resources are scarce because of a reeling economy, China's are plentiful.

Now the real issue, where the hell is Boba's review? The guy keeps talking about how he get's the worlds greatest price in his for sale thread, post pictures of them ON his car when we asked for a review (what the hell did those pictures prove? that they fit). If you are going to sell a product, then stand behind it. Godspeed does, they offer a one year COMPLETE REPLACEMENT warranty, which YOU WILL NOT FIND from anyone else, because they will claim they may break due to user abuse, Godspeed has so much faith in there products that they actually back them up.

That, and the guys at Fatboy/Gs Infinity are willing to give you awesome prices IF you pay cash. Now it's time for Bobafreak to step up and give us his review, or I move to have him stop selling them, lol. It is coming across as if he had huge problems with them.

And furthermore, to my original point, you can get a good suspension for 600 dollars with springs, shocks combos. All these people who think you have to spend five grand to get a good suspension set up are idiots. Especially if you shop around on Zilvia and get some slightly used parts, you can peice together an awesome suspension. I have spend 600 on my car and got almost new coilovers, Godspeeds full suspension kit, and a rear strut bar. My car is stiffer than me after 30 seconds on BALLhoneys.com, and handles like a beast and mediocre tires.

Moral of the story:
1. Expensive does not always = quality.
2. Cheap does not always = crap.

No one of you guys step up and give a review.

turtl631
03-20-2008, 12:53 PM
Buy some Koni yellows and sleeve coilovers if you don't want to spend much but want a decently damped setup with spring rates of your choosing. Buy cheap coilovers like this if you want to be really low, have a car that feels stiff due to a retarded compression curve, and value being low over having decent dampers. To some people, that really does matter more. I don't get it, but at this point I'm not gonna argue with them. If these are selling for $550, and the company is obviously profiting, do you think they have lots of R&D or legitimate engineering into them? Why would they be any different from Megan, D2, Ksport, and whatever else is out there in the <$1k bracket?

PoorMans180SX
03-20-2008, 12:56 PM
Wow.

Just let it die people. Install your crappy parts and let the thread die.

No one cares anymore, so stop freaking out.

khmer1
03-20-2008, 01:08 PM
^^^ WTF? Punctuation REALLY helps people understand what the fuck you are saying! It is the consumer's choice, but if the consumer makes an uneducated choice based solely on price that is not good.

uh ok sorry master hahaha well whatever all we really want is a review which no 1 has provide yet so it whatever

Wow.

Just let it die people. Install your crappy parts and let the thread die.

No one cares anymore, so stop freaking out.

haha i know right



p.s wtf i got a neg rep.....whyyyyyyy

racepar1
03-20-2008, 01:23 PM
Whoever said you are not going to get good performance from these coilovers, no way, no how, is an idiot. Speaking without any knowledge of a product is very stupid. For example, I could go buy a Jaguar for 80k, or a Lexus for 50k, the Lexus will be better in every way. PRICE does not always go hand in hand with QUALITY. Anyone who has bought Godspeeds front mount intercoolers knows this. Fact is, a good front mount used to cost $800-$1000, because very few people made them and there was alot of demand, with cars like the wrx coming stock with very inefficient top mounts. But now that demand has grown so much, so has supply and SUPPLIERS, promoting competition, and lowering prices. Now you can get a good FMIC for 200 dollars.

You simply cannot compare a FMIC to a set of coilovers! A FMIC has absolutely no moving parts at all and can be manufactured 100% in-house. Coilovers on the other hand have many moving parts and cannot be 100% manufactured in-house. Godspeed does not manufacture their shocks or their upper mount bearings and that is exactly where they have to cheap out to sell coils for their price and make a profit. Those two parts also happen to be the most important part of the coils. Price does not necessarily go hand in hand with quality, but it is a good reference point. Reputable companies like TEIN charge more because there is actual engineering, testing, and constant development behind their products.

The biggest reason why coilovers cost so much is because most of these manufacturers pay out the ass for the materials they use and have small factories. Now that China is a somewhat free market, a lot of products are coming out of there for less because of all the resources they have there the products the materials cost less.

Good materials cost more money, PERIOD! The labor is where the chinese have a serious advantage as far as production cost goes.

So will these be the worlds greatest coilovers? No, of course not. Will they be as good as megans or tein basics? I would almost say definately, just having taken a look at them, touching them, compressing them with my hand and looking at the quality of the materials used, they are equal in quality to tein basics that I have handled before. Of course, there are other factors that should be measured, but Tein's have been over priced for a long time, and megans are also no better than these. Japan has a horrible economy, therefore the price of materials there is going to cost more. It's just simple economics, their resources are scarce because of a reeling economy, China's are plentiful.

Godspeeds parts are pretty much exactly the same as megan's, DUH! Thanks for the fucking news flash tom brokaw! If I had to choose between megans and godspeeds I would go with whatever is chaeper as I bet their factories are within walking distance of eachother. Tein basics are entry level crap, but I would still rank them above the megan's or the godspeeds simply because of TEIN's engineering. The japanese are far better engineers than the chinese. All the chinese have ever been good at is producing cheap crap. The closest TEIN coils that would have comparable features to the godspeeds are the flexes, which are 150% superior in absolutely every way. As stated before TEIN is "overpriced" because they have REAL engineering and testing behind their products

Now the real issue, where the hell is Boba's review? The guy keeps talking about how he get's the worlds greatest price in his for sale thread, post pictures of them ON his car when we asked for a review (what the hell did those pictures prove? that they fit). If you are going to sell a product, then stand behind it. Godspeed does, they offer a one year COMPLETE REPLACEMENT warranty, which YOU WILL NOT FIND from anyone else, because they will claim they may break due to user abuse, Godspeed has so much faith in there products that they actually back them up.

Ya I would TOTALLY trust the review from a guy that makes money selling them! I mean why would he lie? (sarcasm)

And furthermore, to my original point, you can get a good suspension for 600 dollars with springs, shocks combos. All these people who think you have to spend five grand to get a good suspension set up are idiots. Especially if you shop around on Zilvia and get some slightly used parts, you can peice together an awesome suspension. I have spend 600 on my car and got almost new coilovers, Godspeeds full suspension kit, and a rear strut bar. My car is stiffer than me after 30 seconds on BALLhoneys.com, and handles like a beast and mediocre tires.

Here we go with the "$5000 coils" comparison! I have said it a hundred times in this thread, NOBODY IS TELLING ANYBODY TO GO OUT AND BUY TOP OF THE FUCKING LINE FULL RACE COILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For christ's sake! OOOOOHHHHHHHHHH, you got godspeed's cheap ass suspension arms with their floppy bearings, probably their sway bars, some used coils, and a rear strut bar! Damn your car is a fucking race car! You should brag about that constantly! (sarcasm) Give me a fucking break! No car in the world handles absolutely bitchin on mediocre tires with mediocre suspension parts. For a guy whose SN is NASAdriver you sure don't seem to know much about real handling. As I stated before buy what you want, I cannot tell you different. I CAN however attempt to educate you and kill misinformation, like the info found in this post.

Mlogue84
03-20-2008, 02:13 PM
Long story short.....

The Godspeed coilovers are a good idea for most 240 drivers on Zilvia. Has anyone noticed that all the people supporting the idea of cheap coilovers are the noobs in the scene. All the people in blue are actually making posts that are of some value to the OP.

ie: "i wanna slam my beat 240, are these a good option for me?" ...yes these are perfect for you.

To the OP:
Personally, I had the option to buy these with cash in hand... what did I do???

I Bought used KYB AGX Shocks with Tein Springs, the reason being peace of mind. Knowing that I could potentially lose $500 on a shitty coilover system just sucks. Now keeping in mind that "they come with a warranty that replaces it if it fails".... who the hell would want to keep these pieces of shit that keep breaking. Imagine your crusin down the freeway and something happens with your sweet coilover system, shit goes down and you wreck your car at 70 mph.... That's Dangerous and risky. A risk that I wasn't willing to take, so I chose a couple of reputable companies and pieced a system together for around $250. You tell me if it's worth "testing" when your life depends on the suspension that your beat is rockin.

If you're doing it to have competetive fun...It's like bringing a donkey to a thoroughbred race. lol.

design240sx
03-20-2008, 02:22 PM
buy whatever you want. its your own car and do what you want. who cares! if you have money than get yourself some good coilover. if your low on cash? get what you can afford. just dont drive stupid and shit! we need to stop flaming each other. just give them props that they drive a 240.

yudalicious
03-20-2008, 02:25 PM
The Lexus/Jag comparisons doesn't hold water. Lexus is an established company that has shown they do a ton of research and development towards their cars and has been coming out with quality cars for quite awhile now. Godspeed? A year or two ago I called them to ask if their RUCA rod ends were metric or standard - never got a response. Not to mention the dimensions of the rod end, the rep had no idea. Their website doesn't even show their coilovers, much less pertinent info on the coilovers themselves. Do you really think they put much thought into the design, valving, internals, the most important part of a coilover system?

Look at Stance or SPL (both of which are budget suspensions without great name recognition), when they first came out no one knew what Stance or KTS coilovers are. But they produced technical data, dynos, dimensions, etc. and answered questions on forums. Now people swear by both companies. This is not a knock on Godspeed or their other products, but the difference between a metal brace or fmic and a set of dampers is pretty big.

It was never about price or brand, it's just impossible to get a reliable and quality coilover system from a dedicated and knowledgeable company for $600 in today's market. You don't need $2000, not even $1500, for around $1000 (stop eating out for a month) you can have a koni yellow/gc set up, a great long term solution that will improve both performance and looks of your car.

kouki_s14
03-20-2008, 02:28 PM
Whoever said you are not going to get good performance from these coilovers, no way, no how, is an idiot. Speaking without any knowledge of a product is very stupid. For example, I could go buy a Jaguar for 80k, or a Lexus for 50k, the Lexus will be better in every way. PRICE does not always go hand in hand with QUALITY. Anyone who has bought Godspeeds front mount intercoolers knows this. Fact is, a good front mount used to cost $800-$1000, because very few people made them and there was alot of demand, with cars like the wrx coming stock with very inefficient top mounts. But now that demand has grown so much, so has supply and SUPPLIERS, promoting competition, and lowering prices. Now you can get a good FMIC for 200 dollars.

You really have no idea what you're talking about if you bring up the quality of intercoolers. Besides Godspeed only makes BAR and PLATE intercoolers, which is much CHEAPER to make then tube and fin. I wonder why they only make those? hmmm.

The biggest reason why coilovers cost so much is because most of these manufacturers pay out the ass for the materials they use and have small factories. Now that China is a somewhat free market, a lot of products are coming out of there for less because of all the resources they have there the products the materials cost less.


The materials cost less because they are of less quality. The crappy Godspeed coilovers cost EVEN LESS because the people making them(or operating the machines) are not qualified to do so.


So will these be the worlds greatest coilovers? No, of course not. Will they be as good as megans or tein basics? I would almost say definately, just having taken a look at them, touching them, compressing them with my hand and looking at the quality of the materials used, they are equal in quality to tein basics that I have handled before.

So you have seen Godspeed, Megan Racings, and Tein BASIC coilovers in person? What makes you qualified to say ANYTHING? Compressing a shock in your hand is not going to tell you anything. You're an idiot if you really believe you can tell quality from that.


Of course, there are other factors that should be measured, but Tein's have been over priced for a long time, and megans are also no better than these. Japan has a horrible economy, therefore the price of materials there is going to cost more. It's just simple economics, their resources are scarce because of a reeling economy, China's are plentiful.

China has cheap labor, plain and simple. Most Japanese coilovers are now made in China anyway so that throws your price of materials out the door. BUT i guarantee the Japanese have a better quality control over their factories in China.

I am no fan of ANY Japanese coilovers, but I know they are better than the cheap knockoffs everyone seems to be making.

Now the real issue, where the hell is Boba's review? The guy keeps talking about how he get's the worlds greatest price in his for sale thread, post pictures of them ON his car when we asked for a review (what the hell did those pictures prove? that they fit). If you are going to sell a product, then stand behind it. Godspeed does, they offer a one year COMPLETE REPLACEMENT warranty, which YOU WILL NOT FIND from anyone else, because they will claim they may break due to user abuse, Godspeed has so much faith in there products that they actually back them up.

They offer a warranty purely for marketing. Plus you need proof that it was properly installed, which means you CANNOT install it yourself at home. You cheap bastards will have to pay someone to do it.

Most of you probably didn't even know that and would have installed it yourself. Guess what? Warranty is out the door and you can bet Godspeed knows that most of you will install it yourself.

Coilovers lasting a year is not a huge deal, if it couldnt last a year then it should be even cheaper. I can bet that the characteristics of the shock will change everytime you ride in the car.

And furthermore, to my original point, you can get a good suspension for 600 dollars with springs, shocks combos. All these people who think you have to spend five grand to get a good suspension set up are idiots. Especially if you shop around on Zilvia and get some slightly used parts, you can peice together an awesome suspension. I have spend 600 on my car and got almost new coilovers, Godspeeds full suspension kit, and a rear strut bar. My car is stiffer than me after 30 seconds on BALLhoneys.com, and handles like a beast and mediocre tires.

Take a ride in a car with REAL suspension and you can tell the difference easily. Get a set of Konis and I guarantee your car will handle 10x better.

Stiffer does NOT equal good. You guys can't get that through your thick heads.

Moral of the story:
1. Expensive does not always = quality.
2. Cheap does not always = crap.

That's true, but most of the time is gauges it pretty accurately AND it is OBVIOUS that these will suck.

eh the people who will buy these coilovers will probably crash their car trying to drift down a mountain anyway. (Godspeed probably knows this so they offer the 1 year warranty to those idiots)

mothon
03-20-2008, 11:05 PM
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to everyones questions, ive been super busy doing paint and body to the car.

What do you mean with the finish on them?? they are not like in the pictures? or the paint is messed up? or the metal is not smooth?

They just scratch and chip super easy, and the welds dont look that good.

so you added drop in the rear to go low? well thats how you go low, by dropping them.

No i added droop in the rear to go that low not drop...ther is a difference

what about in the front? gonna keep it that height? take off your lip and drop it another 1.5 inch in front..it will look sick..
cuz right now it looks like drag car style with the front higher then rear! or maybe its cuz of the smaller/different wheels in front!

I think it just looks funny because im rocking the 16" 18" stagger, im still waitin on my front hubs to come in before i can mount my emos in the front.

yes finally first hand experience plz plz post any and everything you find about these coilovers. pics would help as well especially of the bad finish you talk about and what do you plan on doing with these coils? daily or strictly all track? plz let us know as soon as you can and end this nonsense.

This car is my beater, drift, have fun car. I still havnt had a chance to drive on them yet, but even then all i have to compare them to are kts which i had previously installed on the car, so i really dont think an actual "review" from me is going to be super helpful. The only reason i bought these coilovers was so i could be slammed, like i said i consider this car my beater, i have an s14 that i am building also that will have a koni/ground control setup.


Y are ur front pillows silver and not red? or did u just put the godspeeds in the rear?

I think they just look silver because of the camber plate bolts, in the pic they are installed front and rear.

The only pic that i have of the coilovers
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/mateo04/car%20stuff/mateos077.jpg

GabeS14
03-20-2008, 11:31 PM
Thanks for the reply man.. you are the Review man.,..dont worry about your knowledge of coilovers, just describe how they are when you do drive that..
no graphs or detailed explanations needed.what most ant here is some actual review of how they ride and comparison..even if it is to KTS..at least there will be something

kouki_s14
03-21-2008, 03:54 AM
The only reason i bought these coilovers was so i could be slammed, like i said i consider this car my beater, i have an s14 that i am building also that will have a koni/ground control setup.




Smart man

The rest of you should follow in this guy's footsteps. He understands that these coilovers are only good for one single thing.

GabeS14
03-21-2008, 01:33 PM
Smart man

The rest of you should follow in this guy's footsteps. He understands that these coilovers are only good for one single thing.

I think that is pretty much the idea everyone that is inquiring has ..that prettyy much what they want..

Neejay
03-21-2008, 01:36 PM
They just scratch and chip super easy, and the welds dont look that good.

The only reason i bought these coilovers was so i could be slammed, like i said i consider this car my beater, i have an s14 that i am building also that will have a koni/ground control setup.

The only pic that i have of the coilovers
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/mateo04/car%20stuff/mateos077.jpg
I was thinking about giving them a try until he said those 2 things + that pic.

Those welds look shitty.

shawn240sx
03-21-2008, 02:33 PM
Alright so they are going on now...I will post how they work out...

kouki_s14
03-21-2008, 02:42 PM
I think that is pretty much the idea everyone that is inquiring has ..that prettyy much what they want..


Well you and a bunch of other people in this thread seem to expect more than the ability to slam your car out of these coilovers.

If we were not under the impression that you guys expected the shocks to perform a miracle for $500, than this thread would have never came so far.

If all you want from coilovers are the ability to slam you car, then look at how long the shock body is, how short the spring is, look at the total height of the coilover when collars are as high as they can go.

You should know (it is OBVIOUS) that the shock WILL NOT perform as well as a Koni shock(or a Japanese shock), so why bother asking for a review when you can see HOW LOW it can go by looking at pictures.

GabeS14
03-21-2008, 02:50 PM
Well you and a bunch of other people in this thread seem to expect more than the ability to slam your car out of these coilovers.
You should know (it is OBVIOUS) that the shock WILL NOT perform as well as a Koni shock(or a Japanese shock), so why bother asking for a review when you can see HOW LOW it can go by looking at pictures.

I cant speak for sll. I just want to know how the ride feels, is it bumpy? too stiff?
and how low..pretty much.....
as long as they are as decent as megans they will be just fine..
I have many friend swith megans and they drift once a month..and track all the time..
And after hearing that these are Apex knock offs and same factory as megans..why not save 300 and buy these instead of megans..since most are not pro drifters..megans have proved themselves at least reliable..everyone said they would falla aparts and break and wear out in a couple of months..but so far they have held up..
so thats why I just wanted to know how it felt driving them..I right now have shock spring setup..and i fell like its Rolly..polly...and hate going around corners with them lol...
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST>>
with a one year warranty??? ..if they faill..ill just give god a call!

mothon
03-21-2008, 02:53 PM
And another thing........these go plenty low in the front, but in the rear the only way to go as low as i am is by adding lots of droop to the spring, im no expert on droop either and i dont know how much is safe....ill try to post a picture of how much droop im runnin as soon as i get a chance.