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hellaflush
01-12-2008, 07:53 AM
Hoons pay as 2600 cars taken

By Carly Crawford

January 12, 2008 01:00am
Article from: Herald Sun

* Hoons paid more than $1m to get cars back
* Almost half of hoons were probationary drivers
* Road safety groups want their cars crushed

HOON cars are being seized at the rate of 50 a week with hot-headed drivers forced to pay more than $1 million so far to get their machines back.

Bendigo is Victoria's hoon capital and the Commodore the car of choice, latest police figures show.

Victorians will be urged to dob in dangerous drivers by calling Crime Stoppers with specific tips about local hoons, feeding a police intelligence database that will track the road menaces under a $250,000 scheme.

Of the 2600 cars impounded between January and December last year, 27 were locked away after police caught their drivers smashing the speed limit at more than 200km/h.

Road safety groups want Victoria to consider LA-style "crush-them" laws where serial hoons have their cars destroyed and a video of the demolition is posted online as a warning to others.

Traffic police have wielded their new confiscation powers with devastating force since the law came into effect 18 months ago. The figures show:

HOLDEN Commodores accounted for 837 seizures, ahead of Ford Falcons (220).

SOME revheads lost luxury cars such as Ferraris and a Lamborghini.

BENDIGO easily topped the list of hoon hotspots with 90 cars seized, followed by Mildura (44) and Geelong (43).

AT LEAST 44 per cent of hoon drivers were P-platers.

OF THE 1235 drivers charged for improper use of a motor vehicle, 830 were performing burn-outs while almost 300 were sliding over the road doing "fishtails".

Hoons lose their cars on the spot for two days when they are booked for a first offence.

Cars are impounded for three months for a second offence and indefinitely for a third strike.

Before they can retrieve their cars, drivers have to reimburse police the cost of towing and storage - $300 on average.

Since the laws took effect in July 2006, police have seized 3437 cars, which means hoons have copped a $1.03 million hit to the hip pocket.

NSW considering road safety groups' call to crush hoon cars

Road Trauma Support Group Victoria chief Julie Parke said the crushing scheme, with better education, was worth considering.

"These drivers are raising the bar all the time and that is dramatic, so maybe it needs a commensurate response that is dramatic too," she said.

Citizens Against Road Slaughter spokesman Colin den Ronden said destroying a hoon's prized possession would send a strong message.

The concept is being considered by the NSW Government. But the Victorian Government has ruled out crush-them laws, saying it prefers to sell serial offenders' cars and spend the money on road safety campaigns.

About one per cent of drivers caught in Victoria - or 120 - are repeat offenders.

Fewer than five cars have been forfeited to the state since the scheme began.

'Dob-in-a-hoon' campaign to begin soon

Insp Tom McGillian, from the vehicle impoundment support unit, said the high number of P-plate hoons was disturbing.

He warned that even the most minor error of judgment by a hoon driver could be fatal.

Insp McGillian said the dob-in-a-hoon campaign would start early this year.

"There are a number of council-run hotlines but we are in the process of establishing a model for this inside Crimestoppers," he said. "Intelligence will be collected and sent out for action by police."

On Thursday, police confiscated a motorcycle from a 33-year-old Bundoora man caught speeding at more than 200km/h on the Wallan-Whittlesea Rd.

A 19-year-old man on a P-plates spent the new year without his Commodore after he was caught speeding at 156km/h in a 100km/h zone on New Year's Eve.

Police Minister Bob Cameron said the anti-hoon laws were effective.

"The hoon laws take away the one thing these people care about, their cars."

Most cars were impounded between 4pm and midnight, and one in five cars was locked up on a Saturday.

Under a law introduced in November, any driver who leads police on a pursuit can have their car confiscated.

im just glad to see that Nissan/imports werent the top of the list...

bloodangels13
01-12-2008, 08:05 AM
question: what would the word "hoon" equate to here in America?
im usualy pretty good at figureing out aussie slang but im a lil at a lose on this one

either way that sounds ruff as hell.... i almost moved to australia back in 03 ... that probly would have been me getting my car taken from me lol

hellaflush
01-12-2008, 08:36 AM
hoon would equate to - street racer punks in USA?

just doing anything wreckless/against the law in a vehicle = "hooning"

its not just doing stuff wrong here either - its modding your car... atleast 10,000 defects (defect is a yellow sticker on your windshield which means you need to goto an inspection station and an engineer goes over your entire car to make sure it is to australian design rule standards (ie height, illegal mods like turbotimers/boost controllers/wheels out of track/aftermarket turbos etc) are issued every year... my girlfriends s15 has clocked up 11 in 3 years - too low, too loud, wheels out of track (too wide/low offset), exhaust too low, no suspension travel (rock solid coilovers) etc etc

bloodangels13
01-12-2008, 08:46 AM
THAT SUCKS! now im kinda glad i didnt move.... o well i would have had deplomat taggs ... turbo timer illegal! thats retarded that and wider wheels and lower offsets? what a bunch of bullshit.... and i thought my area was super anal about mods

codyace
01-12-2008, 08:47 AM
So if you decide not to fix these 'defects' what is the fine/penalty?


I was always under the impression that Austalia was home of the 'anything goes' big wild v8's and turbo cars....

hellaflush
01-12-2008, 09:21 AM
well if you are defected - you have (dependant on how nice the cop is) max 72hours to get your car home and off the road or to a police station with the defected items rectified... you can then gain a permit to drive your car untill your inspection with the transport branch where the engineer will check your entire car over for anythingelse "defectable"

if you are denied a permit or are caught with your car re-modded after being issued a permit up untill your inspection date with the engineer then you cannot drive your car on the street and are not allowed to get any further permits - you must have your car towed to the inspection

if the inspector finds other things defectable on your car he can then "double" defect you and chuck another sticker on and send you home to get more stuff fixed

oh and if your rego runs out very shortly after you get defected - youre screwed... your rego is frozen from being renewed untill inspection has been passed - thus we always make sure we have atleast 3 months ahead of us of registration left on our cars incase we get done (generally if we get defected its - straight home, fix what needs to be (normally suspension, wheels or exhaust) and goto the local police station - get a permit - and book an inspection with the engineer as far towards the end of our registration as possible - coz generally you wont be defected for further things if you are driving your car and have a permit waiting for an inspection - so to an extent you are "invinceable"

oh and the other thing which we have learnt is your rego isnt frozen untill they get back to their station and process the paperwork - so we generally dash home and renew the registration for another 3months on the internet via credit card to buy us some more time)

murda-c
01-12-2008, 09:23 AM
So if you decide not to fix these 'defects' what is the fine/penalty?


I was always under the impression that Austalia was home of the 'anything goes' big wild v8's and turbo cars....


maybe if you live in the outback, lol.

drift freaq
01-12-2008, 11:23 AM
hoon would equate to - street racer punks in USA?

just doing anything wreckless/against the law in a vehicle = "hooning"

its not just doing stuff wrong here either - its modding your car... atleast 10,000 defects (defect is a yellow sticker on your windshield which means you need to goto an inspection station and an engineer goes over your entire car to make sure it is to australian design rule standards (ie height, illegal mods like turbotimers/boost controllers/wheels out of track/aftermarket turbos etc) are issued every year... my girlfriends s15 has clocked up 11 in 3 years - too low, too loud, wheels out of track (too wide/low offset), exhaust too low, no suspension travel (rock solid coilovers) etc etc

Heh, and some Americans rip on California laws. Shit California laws seem mild compared to what you guys go through. Typical, my compatriots just don't realize how good they have it. LOL.

hellaflush
01-12-2008, 08:01 PM
thus why alot of cars are so high/poor fitment as some are too scared... however i will say - most still have no clue but still...

what are your laws like in the states? i know you have to go for smog tests... what does that involve? do you guys have things such as "defects" or something similar? i see alot of you guys having fully caged/stripped/straight piped DD's...

drift freaq
01-12-2008, 08:12 PM
thus why alot of cars are so high/poor fitment as some are too scared... however i will say - most still have no clue but still...

what are your laws like in the states? i know you have to go for smog tests... what does that involve? do you guys have things such as "defects" or something similar? i see alot of you guys having fully caged/stripped/straight piped DD's...

Well there are some laws on the books. In California, the big thing they go after here is your exhaust, and following that wanting to pop your hood to see if your running a swapped engine and whatnot.
Our smog laws(California's are the strictest in the country) are pretty much a bi annual dyno test with taipipe sensor, visual inspection and now evaporative return system test.

Now it used to be we could sport a lot of mods without a lot of problems.Though due to street racing and stuff its changed in high profile area's. Its the mechanical stuff they usually go after though. They don't always know what they' re looking for though. LOL. Though a lot of them know the different engines.

I have heard a few people getting hassled for their ride height and there is a law on the books about that but its seldom enforced.

Most of the cars you hear about getting crushed, or confiscated are the street drag racers. The only thing you here about street drifting is some dumb kid that can't drive wrecks his car.

hellaflush
01-12-2008, 08:16 PM
damn i should move to the states...

it is also illegal here for aftermarket turbos/injectors/exhausts/removing cats... due to it altering the emissions from the vehicle and "harming others and the o-zone layer"

i find it ironic when youre sitting next to a semi coming down the freeway and he uses his exhaust brakes - and you think "he has just released more emissions in 30secs than i have in 1 day" yet we get picked on still...

with your smog tests what do they look for? a factory standard your car was released with and if its above that you = fail? what happens with sr swapped s chassis' etc?

codyace
01-14-2008, 10:35 AM
i find it ironic when youre sitting next to a semi coming down the freeway and he uses his exhaust brakes - and you think "he has just released more emissions in 30secs than i have in 1 day" yet we get picked on still...

Diesels to get picked on though...higher fuel taxes, and new diesel have all of the same happy crap emissions that cars do :(

S14DB
01-14-2008, 05:58 PM
damn i should move to the states...

it is also illegal here for aftermarket turbos/injectors/exhausts/removing cats... due to it altering the emissions from the vehicle and "harming others and the o-zone layer"

i find it ironic when youre sitting next to a semi coming down the freeway and he uses his exhaust brakes - and you think "he has just released more emissions in 30secs than i have in 1 day" yet we get picked on still...

with your smog tests what do they look for? a factory standard your car was released with and if its above that you = fail? what happens with sr swapped s chassis' etc?

Everything in Cali must be stock or CARB approved from the cat forward. Exhausts just have to meet sound requirements.

In FL there is no testing even though the laws exist. Exhaust noise is hard to prove as long as you have some sort of muffler. I have gotten hit with the ride hight a couple times and have had to raise the car so the headlight is 22" of the ground.

SW20Racer
01-14-2008, 07:59 PM
aint no 'spection stashuns in abalama! woo!

Healtoeae86
01-14-2008, 09:48 PM
wow this really makes you think twice about pulling over after a officer attempts to pull you over..