Are the demand for 240sx going up?

[Lone_Drifter]

I'm wondering if the demand for 240sx is seriously increasing.  I mean, if people realize the potential of it, then more people will buy them and try the sr swap.  and if that happens, the sr engine will increase in price too. right?

[Jim96SC2]

I was talking with Ken from Enjuku Racing abd SRs. He said that exporters(?) are all increasing their prices due to demand, thus increasing shop costs and increasing our costs. Seems pretty prevelent throughout every website I've seen.

As for 240's? Nope. They seem about the same as always.

[SimpleS14]

I feel that the 240SX is becoming the most sought after used car. &nbsp;But people have to realize that there are just so many 240's to going around. &nbsp;Not every 240SX produced in the U.S. is still on the streets. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'>

As for the SR, I fell that prices are becoming increased due to the high demand. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> &nbsp;Once again, just like the 240SX in the U.S. , there are just so many SR engines to import. &nbsp;It's not like every Silvia owner in Japan decided to wreck there car and its not as if every SR that goes on sale is in good condition (i.e. e-bay).

Basically what I'm trying to say thru all my rumble is the SR20DET will go up in price regardless and one day there will be no SR engine available for to buy.....so whatever happens happens. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

I'm just glad I have a nice car to begin with. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[Ryan of Velocity]

There will never be a lack of SR motors. &nbsp;The fact is that once demand gets so high and supply begins to diminsh blown and battered SR's will begin to be remanufactured and sold.

[SimpleS14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ryan of Velocity @ Oct. 07 2002,9:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There will never be a lack of SR motors. The fact is that once demand gets so high and supply begins to diminsh blown and battered SR's will begin to be remanufactured and sold.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I wouldn't mind seeing that.....

but right now I doubt any will rebulid a SR and sell it at the current selling price(average). &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'>

I have yet to see a rebulit SR in the U.S. (I wouldn't mind having one &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> )

[S14Racer]

When they run out of SRs, we will run out of 240s to swap them into....

[Black240sx]

They will never run out of SR's because all the new silvias have the SRs in them. so hence they are still being manufatured new allt he time...the prices will however go up in time. since we will be getting the S15 or S14 motors instead of S13 Srs or something like that!

[SilviaDriver]

doubt they will ever run out of SRs, there are more silvias in japan than 240sx in the US, shops will probably increase the prices, since it all over in mags n shit

oh yea..nice car "Black240sx"

[S14Racer]

^not saying youre wrong, but how do you know that? &nbsp;Is there a website that has sales figures? &nbsp;Even though the silvia was more popular in japan, a lot more ppl in america buy cars.

[LoCo]

The demand for the SR is already up there.

Its just like everything else... if the demand is high then the prices will reflect that.

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

[SimpleS14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Black240sx @ Oct. 07 2002,11:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They will never run out of SR's because all the new silvias have the SRs in them. so hence they are still being manufatured new allt he time...the prices will however go up in time. since we will be getting the S15 or S14 motors instead of S13 Srs or something like that!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
They stopped producing new S15 SR20DET's......the car has ceased production. &nbsp;Also don't forget the amount of custom work required to fit the S15 SR in an S-13..let alone a S-14 (though that one has been done number of times).

I still think there will eventually be no more SR's....well those of good quality/shape or guaranteed to start.

But by that time my car will already have an SR or I'll be riding in a nice '02 WRX. &nbsp;I'm a college student, so buy the time I get out a used '02 WRX will be obtainable....I love that car &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'> &nbsp;(second to my 240 of course).

[KEIVmx]

I guess when the SR20DET runs out...
people will finally realize that the FJ20DET is far more superior.

I would rather have a S12 with an FJ than an S13 or S14 with an SR...

When the FJ20DET runs out, the RB20DET won't be a bad replacement either.

[HippoSleek]

Wow - you guys are really attached to these things!

I don't see supply running low any time soon. &nbsp;Look at Honda's b-series motors. &nbsp;Aside from that, who cares? &nbsp;Performance is returning to cars again. &nbsp;By the time SR's run out, if I can't afford something better than an SR/240, god help me. &nbsp;Seriously, at least five years. &nbsp;By that time, the s14a will be 10 years old. &nbsp;S13's will be 20! &nbsp;How many people care about fixing up 20 year old cars? &nbsp;Especially when Z's and Supras from the 90's will be quite affordable by then.

FWIW: when I first considered swapping, a complete s13 SR was about $2,000 from HeavyThrottle. &nbsp;They were pricey! &nbsp;Ebay motors were going for $1500-2000 (2K for an s14) complete. &nbsp;What are we at now - $2500-3500?

[AKADriver]

Well, performance is returning to cars, but style isn't. &nbsp;Just in my opinion, of course, there isn't a single car made today under $50k that looks as good as an S13. &nbsp;The whole industry has gone to this style of razor-edge creases, high beltlines and short greenhouses, that looks positively goofy to me.

When that trend ends, though, I might be back in the market for a new car...

[Ryan of Velocity]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SilviaDriver @ Oct. 08 2002,11:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">doubt they will ever run out of SRs, there are more silvias in japan than 240sx in the US, shops will probably increase the prices, since it all over in mags n shit

oh yea..nice car "Black240sx"</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
The abundance of Silvias is true but the amount of viable SR20DETs is not equal to the number of Silvias there are. &nbsp;

First of all you have to take into consideration the fact that people want the SR20DET. &nbsp;How many Silvias came with SR20DETs... You have the early s13s with CAs along with the early 180 which is a chunk out of it. &nbsp;Then you have the non turbo models which is another big chunk. &nbsp;You also have to take into consideration that only like 30% of K's models S13's came manual, the rest were 5 speed and no one wants an automatic. &nbsp;So the more you think about it the lest motors there are that one would automatically assume.

Then you have to take into account the parts yards that the motors are coming from. &nbsp;I lived in Japan for ten years and I've been to many a junkyard hunting for parts and I've seen what they do to those motors. &nbsp;No nice removal it's all about cutting hacking, torching and breaking shit to get the motor out as effeciently as possible. &nbsp;So then you have another chunk of SRs that will never make it to the states because they are basically trash.

If people who performed SR swaps in their 240s here in the states saw what their motor went through before it got to them they would have never bought it! &nbsp;I'm not saying all motors were put through hell but many were ( rough generalization)

If you start to look at the big picture there are far fewer motors than one would think. &nbsp;

As time goes the resources for acquiring SRs will get thinner and they will become more expensive. &nbsp;Of course then you will see more CA18DET (my favorite motor!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> swaps and even FJ20 and RB swaps as a result.

But I still believe that at some point SR rebuilding will become a common practice.

[SimpleS14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AKADriver @ Oct. 08 2002,11:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, performance is returning to cars, but style isn't. Just in my opinion, of course, there isn't a single car made today under $50k that looks as good as an S13. The whole industry has gone to this style of razor-edge creases, high beltlines and short greenhouses, that looks positively goofy to me.

When that trend ends, though, I might be back in the market for a new car...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
What?? not even one car....... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

I have to say that the 350Z and G35 Coupe look some much better than a S-13. &nbsp;

Heck I like them better than my S-14.......

[sr20det_DC]

If demand for SR20DET’s go up enough Nissan might just be smart enough to produce a car here that has that engine that what Honda did when people started importing the Integra Type R engine in the mid to late 90’s. Plus right now people are importing the older SR20DET’s so there are still a lot more engines available.

[RearWheel]

This past Saturday I was at a Honda-Tech.com meeting. There were some beautiful Civic Hatchbacks there including one of my friends, which whom I rode there with. Now the meeting was here in Richmond, VA, I don't know about anywhere else, but I was talking to the guys there about my car (95 240SX SE). And they told me that Nissans these days are the way to go. They all had some very fast ass cars and were talking about switching over to Nissans and selling their Hondas. I even had some offers for my S14, but I said you can't go to hell. But anyways, I say watch out because I suspect some Honda lovers to break some hearts and cheat to fall in love with Nissans. And I won't stand for it. I'm already a broke motha trying to buy stuff for my car, so why soup up my Nissans??!!! You're jacking my prices up. I realize that it's all about the game. It's all about knowledge of the game and money. Good Luck guys!!!! We've got competition. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[Chokets]

SR20DE engines are still being made &nbsp;(my friend's spec V Sentra has one) tune it a bit and slap a turbo on it, you got a custom SR20DET... NTM that would be more powerful than a SR20DET because it's 2.5 liter w/6 speed... and there are sooooo many more options out there over a SR20DET, sure your gunna pay more but not everyone should get an SR20DET, they aren't the best engines ever built you know.

i say, go with the flow, the rice boys will get over the 240 soon... just wait it out... in a few years you'll still have your 240 when they have their accord with altezza tail lights. and everyone's happy again. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[RedSuns]

the spec V has the QR25DE.....the sentra SE-R has the SR20DE......

[HippoSleek]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cIvIcKILLA240style @ Oct. 10 2002,6:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the spec V has the QR25DE.....the sentra SE-R has the SR20DE......</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
... and neither would fit, as they are fwd.

Swap in the motor in the G35... those ought to be cheap enough &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turn.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':turn:'>

[AKADriver]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GT specR @ Oct. 09 2002,12:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What?? not even one car....... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

I have to say that the 350Z and G35 Coupe look some much better than a S-13.

Heck I like them better than my S-14.......</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Remember what I said about high beltlines, short greenhouses and razor edge creases... they're both guilty. &nbsp;Both nice looking cars, probably some of the nicest out there, but not that great. &nbsp;Actually my favorite new car, styling wise (again without going into exotics, etc.) is the Mazda Protege ES sedan. &nbsp;That is one well-designed car. &nbsp;With a low beltline and a proportionate greenhouse <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

I can't love the G35 when I look at an R34 Skyline 25GT... &nbsp;Not talking about the GT-R, just the plain sedan and coupe that the G35 replaces in Japan. &nbsp;That car was so right in all the ways the G35 is wrong.

The 350Z's awesome driving dynamics make up for its 'acceptable' styling, though, I wouldn't throw one out of bed for eating crackers. &nbsp;I'd definitely trade my rusting 13 year old car for one. &nbsp;But I'd end up buying another S13 eventually.

[SimpleS14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AKADriver @ Oct. 10 2002,1:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually my favorite new car, styling wise (again without going into exotics, etc.) is the Mazda Protege ES sedan. That is one well-designed car. With a low beltline and a proportionate greenhouse <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

I can't love the G35 when I look at an R34 Skyline 25GT... Not talking about the GT-R, just the plain sedan and coupe that the G35 replaces in Japan. That car was so right in all the ways the G35 is wrong.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Protege ES sedan? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

That's cool I actually like the Protege 5 &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> . &nbsp;

The Skyline (not the GT-R) is too boxy for me. &nbsp;I'll take the G35 any day over that car. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[Kreator]

Lol, 23 replyes and not a single word about KA... Good thing we never run out of kas as long as you guys won't run out of srs....

Demand for SR: up &nbsp; > &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Price of SR: up
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; \/
Supply of used KAs: up &nbsp; > &nbsp; Price of KA: down

oooh. I like that.

[jyt747]

with the demand of the SR going up, the price will also go up in the short run. However, once the price goes up, suppliers will want to supply more, actually causing the price to go down in the long run. If you've taken economics, this is the principle of the supply/demand curve. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[Chokets]

doesn't work on antiques, comic books or baseball cards, that's why people are afraid that the SR will be so rare. you can't make a new cal ripkin jr. rookie card, and you can't make a new s-13 red top.

[Chokets]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cIvIcKILLA240style @ Oct. 10 2002,6:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the spec V has the QR25DE.....the sentra SE-R has the SR20DE......</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
odd... could sworn, either way SR20de's are still being made. that explains the 2.5 liters though... thanks