04 350z + puddle = I need help

[Jimmy Up]

I was just pulling out of Jack in the box, 99c tacos are my vice, and there was a nice size puddle that I rolled through pretty slowly out the driveway. As soon as I got to the point where the water was highest to the center of the car it just shut off. I had all my dash lights, headlights, radio, etc. but the engine just TRIED to turn over just a "chn" noise. I pushed into a parking spot with some help from some good simaritans trying to push start it and drive home but nothing. I waited and called AAA (which was total BS) and kept trying to start the car but nothing was changing. The only thing that i could think of was that the intake I bought the car with is an injen and the filter hangs down behind the bumper, is there some rediculous vacuum pressure that sucked water up through there? I'm just wondering what went wrong here, any help is always appreciated.


thanks, Mike

edit* and to anybody that i was talking to about buying some tires, I dont think I'll be needing them at the moment

[KA-T_240]

If your filter was in the water, yes their is a chance that it sucked water up. I have no idea what the vacuum pressure is on your car. But have you ever tried pulling a brake booster line off at idle? it will for sure suck water through there.

What happend really sucks. How low is your filter to the ground?

[super240sx7185]

Heres what puddle water though your intake does.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=170445

[kognition]

Well,... you have six pistons acting as your vacuum source. Your gonna suck something up.

[super240sx7185]

Oh and pull your plugs spin it over then reinstall maybe it just hydrolocked and didn't wind up like mine.

[KA-T_240]

^word. Pull your plugs change and flush all your fluids. Then try to prime some oil pressure again and do a compression test.

[Jimmy Up]

no doubt, it sounds pretty tore up. the guy i bought the car from is a dealer and gave me a 3 month warranty from bumper to bumper so the good news is that its on the contract so no money will be coming out of my pocket. But yea, the intake goes all the way down to about midpoint on the grille

[fishhouse]

Oh and pull your plugs spin it over then reinstall maybe it just hydrolocked and didn't wind up like mine.

truth, hopefully it didnt bend a rod if it did hydrolock. make sur eyou change your oil if it gets going again and it was hydrolock

[Jimmy Up]

^word. Pull your plugs change and flush all your fluids. Then try to prime some oil pressure again and do a compression test.

tomorrow for sure, thanks much to both of you

[zugoi]

sounds like you sucked up water. Yeah like they said just change ur fuilds and good luck.

[super240sx7185]

No problem just hope yours wasn't like mine.

[KA-T_240]

No problem just hope yours wasn't like mine.

Sooo true. I can't imagine that would be a cheap thing to fix.

[brewster240]

no doubt, it sounds pretty tore up. the guy i bought the car from is a dealer and gave me a 3 month warranty from bumper to bumper so the good news is that its on the contract so no money will be coming out of my pocket. But yea, the intake goes all the way down to about midpoint on the grille


if they find that you hydrolocked the motor, it wont be warranty. unless the guy is feeling nice, which they usually arent, cause they dont want to pay.

even if it came with the intake.

if you have full coverage though, it may cover it.

[Jimmy Up]

full coverage is also on my side. we'll see what happens

[HyperTek]

aftermarket parts and full coverage might not mix too well.. but u bought the car with it so who knows. GL

[DOOK]

no doubt, it sounds pretty tore up. the guy i bought the car from is a dealer and gave me a 3 month warranty from bumper to bumper so the good news is that its on the contract so no money will be coming out of my pocket. But yea, the intake goes all the way down to about midpoint on the grille

take it to the dealership after reading what I write down below and let them deal with it.


aftermarket parts and full coverage might not mix too well.. but u bought the car with it so who knows. GL

this man speaks the truth, if the dealer gave you a 3 month bumper to bumper, he has to cover anything that was on the car at the time of the purchase, but if you have added anything else, I'd put it back to how it was before taking it in.

[ROUGE180]

My home gurl did that in her eclipse and it was not pretty. She too could not start it after the puddle incident. She ended up having to get a new motor. I hope that you don't have the same issue but its good that you have that warrenty and full cov. Good luck to you.

[s13Dr1ft]

That AEM bypass for intakes works magic...Comon people, If your going to have an intake with the filter that low, get the damn bypass. It pays for its self everytime it rains lol.

Jesus, I want 99 cent tacos...

[statik]

When your car stalls from hydrolock the worst thing you can do is try to start the car again. Pull all the plugs and crank the motor, forces the water out of the block. If you're really lucky the car might run, it's better than trying to start it and breaking a rod.

[drift freaq]

It does sound like hydro lock, . That has actually ruined a few VQ's with cold air intakes like yours. If you wind up needing an engine. I have a Nice low mileage 2005 VQ for sale.

[NemeGuero]

It does sound like hydro lock, . That has actually ruined a few VQ's with cold air intakes like yours. If you wind up needing an engine. I have a Nice low mileage 2005 VQ for sale.

shhhammeeleeesss, Dave!

hahahaha

+1 on bypass or redirecting the filter or a dust shield or SOMETHING.

[Jimmy Up]

It does sound like hydro lock, . That has actually ruined a few VQ's with cold air intakes like yours. If you wind up needing an engine. I have a Nice low mileage 2005 VQ for sale.

makes me feel SO much better lol, the Z is in the dealers hands now. I havent even owned this thing for a month yet...pretty bogus, but we'll see what happens next.

[drift freaq]

makes me feel SO much better lol, the Z is in the dealers hands now. I havent even owned this thing for a month yet...pretty bogus, but we'll see what happens next.

Sorry just pointing out a fact I have seen from surfing the 350 forums. Between building a VQ powered 240 and planning on picking up a 350 I have noticed certain things and seperated fact from fiction. I am sorry that it happened to you but ya if the dealer is going to take care of it, no worries. I am interested in hearing what the dealer intends to do though.

[Jimmy Up]

most definitely, but just so everybody that is following this could-be drama, its not a nissan dealer. This is just a private used car dealer that put on the contract "3-month bumper to bumper warranty with NO cost to buyer" and it's shitty for both sides because I'm pretty sure he didn't put that intake on the car. Like I said, lets see what happens- but if need be, would you seperate the motor and tranny?

[kognition]

Your gonna need a freakin snorkel intake this weekend if you live in LA or SoCal in general.

[Jimmy Up]

well, he just called and said that i can pick it up right now, I'll be back in 30

[DreamN]

Goodluck! You better ask for the dude to be detailed with you on what they needed to fix.

[qt_240]

def. keep us updated.. im anxious to hear what happenned =p

[CylonFrakker]

so what happened?

[s13Dr1ft]

AEM Bypass lol..get it

[azndoc]

First rule of modding cars that I learned.

Never drive your car with a cold air intake if its raining or flooding.

Yeah.

Your shit was really low then.

Sucks but lesson learned.

[Jimmy Up]

Its runnin like a champ, somebody point me towards a bypass.

The guy I bought the car from told me that some sensors got wet and that's what caused it to shut down (BS, but still he said it was fixed so we drove to the shop) when we got there the owner of the shop told me straight up "yea, you sucked up some water but luckily we were able to get it out and there was no internal damage" so i got LUCKY. And the dealer took care of everything. Gotta love it when something goes good. Thanks for the support gentlemen

but really, should i pick up a bypass or just go with a short ram?

[snappy]

Damn that's hella scary- I have an AEM intake on my 240 and never thought that could happen... I've driven it in the rain many times before without any problems. Does this problem happen more on 350's or 240's?

[ryguy]

It doesnt happen on short rams, only cold air intakes. It can happen on any car that's intake is low enough to go underwater. You got lucky man, my friend had to replace his engine.

[s13Dr1ft]

Its runnin like a champ, somebody point me towards a bypass.

The guy I bought the car from told me that some sensors got wet and that's what caused it to shut down (BS, but still he said it was fixed so we drove to the shop) when we got there the owner of the shop told me straight up "yea, you sucked up some water but luckily we were able to get it out and there was no internal damage" so i got LUCKY. And the dealer took care of everything. Gotta love it when something goes good. Thanks for the support gentlemen

but really, should i pick up a bypass or just go with a short ram?

You can find it at pretty much any online stores site's.

Yes i would get it over a ram air. When AEM came out with it years ago they showed it working at SEMA with an NSX having its intake/filter ran into a fish tank of water and running. Its not very expensive and it's better than killing an engine or having to have it worked on again.

[Jimmy Up]

right on, thanks much bro- I'm lookin it up right now

[s13Dr1ft]

No problem at all man.

[KA-T_240]

Sounds like all is good hopefully you dont have any unscene damage.