To stagger or not to stagger that is the question

[theronin]

well, now that the holiday season is over, i can begin to spoil my baby once again. on my old s14 i went r33 gtr's (17x9) all around, however now i have my heart set on some fr500 replicas. i now have the option to go 17x9f and 17x10.5r any opinions? good, bad? anything?

[lflkajfj12123]

lol or you could buy some real wheels

hit up logan or grant they can get you a good deal on wheels that aren't crummy

[Dousan_PG]

hahahahhaha

anyways
stagger rules. shits awesome

[azndoc]

18's look so much better on a S14.

And you should go staggered.

Staggered makes the panties drop.

Check your pm.

[Full-Lock]

lol yea
f those wheels

if your going for those wheels just get r33 wheels again
or yea go to aspecand get something really cool

[racepar1]

Stagger is lame. Use the same size tires and wheels on all 4 unless you have a super torquey motor (ls1, rb, etc...). If you run smaller tires in the front than the back then the front end has less available grip so the car is more prone to understeer.

[Vinny]

or vice versa. oversteer.
But what tire size are we talking about? I don't think we're talking about 215's or anything lower.

[garagelu]

Stagger is lame. Use the same size tires and wheels on all 4 unless you have a super torquey motor (ls1, rb, etc...). If you run smaller tires in the front than the back then the front end has less available grip so the car is more prone to understeer.

I dont think thats entirely true. The concept is true but 95 percent of the people who run staggered wheels run at least a 8 inch wheel in the front. A lot run 9 inch wheels in the front. And when running a 225, 235, or 245 high performance tire in the front, its pretty impossible to get understeer if you know how to drive.

[jussjepbrox]

whats best for drifting same wheel all around or staggered hmmm

[OptionZero]

if you need to ask, it's not your wheel sizes that's the problem

[lflkajfj12123]

Stagger is lame. Use the same size tires and wheels on all 4 unless you have a super torquey motor (ls1, rb, etc...). If you run smaller tires in the front than the back then the front end has less available grip so the car is more prone to understeer.

you're retarded please shut up with the quickness

[liv2drift045]

if you need to ask, it's not your wheel sizes that's the problem

QFT
msglength

[McRussellPants]

Stagger is lame. Use the same size tires and wheels on all 4 unless you have a super torquey motor (ls1, rb, etc...). If you run smaller tires in the front than the back then the front end has less available grip so the car is more prone to understeer.


Uhh.


The only way I can see someone saying this is if

A) They have a stock KA
B) They can't drive beyond flooring it/turning the wheel into understeer
C) They're too poor to try different things so they've only tried one setup.


this is zilvia so Im gonna go with all of the above.

[!Zar!]

Stagger is lame. Use the same size tires and wheels on all 4 unless you have a super torquey motor (ls1, rb, etc...). If you run smaller tires in the front than the back then the front end has less available grip so the car is more prone to understeer.

http://blog.pucp.edu.pe/media/497/20070902-Facepalm1.jpg

[S13SilviaGirl]

Stay on topic...:squint:

[drift freaq]

Go forth and stagger, like a drunk bastard! LOL
Seriously stagger rocks. Some people don't like it because of different tires sizes.

I think you see it more on S13's( I could be wrong! ya) because once you get beyond a 9 in the front of a S13 in a 17 or 18 your most likely looking at overfenders or wide fenders. In the rear you can run a 9.5 or 10 under a stock well with a roll and pull and stretched sidewalls.
Remember when you stagger wheel width if your offsets are the same your rears wheel sit out farther. I would tend to agree about screw the FR500 copies. If your going to stagger go for the dope shit.

Only reason I am not running stagger in my current setup is because my wheels are one of 5 sets in the World and they only came in one size. If Rays popped with a flat black 57 maximum in 18x9.5 +17 I would rock it in a Heartbeat! Alas I am stuck with 17x9 +12's which is still dope but not stagger.
Ya I love my wheels. :D

[articdragon192]

240s seem to love staggered setups. Z32s on the otherhand, don't. Most track guys, including moderately powered Z32s run nonstaggered to allow for the rear end to rotate out and to eliminate most of the udnersteer that a Z32 inherently has. I currently run nonstaggered nd it feels awesome. Just putting in some Z32 input.

[mrmephistopheles]

fr500 replicas. bad

That about sums up my feelings.

[racepar1]

you're retarded please shut up with the quickness

Wow that is a very mature and convincing arguement. You really explained your position quite well.

Uhh.


The only way I can see someone saying this is if

A) They have a stock KA
B) They can't drive beyond flooring it/turning the wheel into understeer
C) They're too poor to try different things so they've only tried one setup.


this is zilvia so Im gonna go with all of the above.


A: Yes I do have a stock KADE
B: Why don't you come to the speedventures event at big willow at the end of january and find out son.
c: Think about it rather than wasting money. If you run a significantly wider tire in the rear than the front, then you have significantly more available grip in the rear. The suspension can only make the car stick to the potential of the tires right? That means that the front will break traction before the rear at least when you are off the throttle. This leads to corner entry understeer and will probably lead to understeer in other situations as well. High horsepower cars on the other hand may need a bit of stagger to help put all that power to the ground, but unless you have a super torquey engine like an ls1 or an rb25 or 26 I don't see any reason to stagger more than 2 tire sizes (IE 255fr 275r). Almost all KA's and MOST SR's simply are not tuned enough to require stagger. As for drifting I have no idea. I have never attended any drift event and have no plans of doing so anytime in the near future. I speak only of pure grip driving as that is what I have experience with.

[yokotas13]

So thats why JGTC runs the same tires all around...

fuck wait they dont.

[HyperTek]

its all personal pereference (sp?)
on a budget note, non staggered could be less expensive, and allow for tire rotation if you are concerned about tire life/daily driving etc. Could always make adjustments to the car/driving to comphensate for the understeer/oversteer situation.

But you drive a RWD car so you actually have the option to stagger, where as the commonly FWD car tends to not.

I jus did a google search on those fr500 they look ok, decent sizing... look hell of alot better then the typical cobra wheels.. I think Atech Weapons would be a better choice, clean and dont look "domestic".

[racerjake]

All things being equal, put on staggered tires and the car will understeer more at the limit. As pointed out about high performance tires in the front your overall limits may increase - but at those higher limits the car's balance will still be more prone to understeer. If you design a suspension around the staggered setup (JGTC) by using higher roll rates in the rear with either larger sway bars or stiffer springs (or a combination of both), you can return the cornering balance to neutral and benefit from greater traction for acceleration.

[wonkuuzenki]

stagger it's the only way.

[LongGrain]

stagger both diameter and width. 17x9 18x10.5 dooooo it!

[GSXRJJordan]

stagger both diameter and width. 17x9 18x10.5 dooooo it!

Yup. That's the stagger I'm talkin about.

And it's ok to save up some cash and get decent wheels - they're often a good investment, bringin in as much money when you sell them later as you paid (as long as you bought them used).

[heychris]

+1 rep for racerjake.....excellent point..
I would consult an expert at your local HP suspension / wheel shop, or attend a NASA/SCCA/Drift event and find out what set-ups the drivers are using and thier advantages and disadvantages...
cheers
CH

[garagelu]

If oem's are doing staggered wheels and tires from the factory, why would it not be a good idea. NSX used to run 15/16in now they run 16/17in. Supras run 17x8.5/9.5. Crossfires, m3, etc, etc all run staggered sizes. I could go on and on. You want the tight steering in the front coupled with the traction in the rear. It's the only way to do it. Plus it looks good.

[lflkajfj12123]

Wow that is a very mature and convincing arguement. You really explained your position quite well.




A: Yes I do have a stock KADE
B: Why don't you come to the speedventures event at big willow at the end of january and find out son.
c: Think about it rather than wasting money. If you run a significantly wider tire in the rear than the front, then you have significantly more available grip in the rear. The suspension can only make the car stick to the potential of the tires right? That means that the front will break traction before the rear at least when you are off the throttle. This leads to corner entry understeer and will probably lead to understeer in other situations as well. High horsepower cars on the other hand may need a bit of stagger to help put all that power to the ground, but unless you have a super torquey engine like an ls1 or an rb25 or 26 I don't see any reason to stagger more than 2 tire sizes (IE 255fr 275r). Almost all KA's and MOST SR's simply are not tuned enough to require stagger. As for drifting I have no idea. I have never attended any drift event and have no plans of doing so anytime in the near future. I speak only of pure grip driving as that is what I have experience with.

you still don't know what you're talking about

the silence of you needs immediate attention

seriously though... i could run 15's in front and 18's in back but it all depends on the tire's

[theronin]

hmmmm dunno why so many people dont like the fr's, oh well. thanks for the input guys. :)

[murda-c]

put as wide a tire as you can fit on both ends and you'll probably end up with 18's and staggered....

[Koopa Troopa]

put as wide a tire as you can fit on both ends and you'll probably end up with 18's and staggered....


And you'll end up running a wheel and tire so wide you need boss ammounts of negative camber and end up only using 195mm of your mad tyte yo 275's..

[theronin]

i wanna stay with 17's.

[SimpleSexy180]

do you car about tire life? if so, i would go non-stagger.

[murda-c]

And you'll end up running a wheel and tire so wide you need boss ammounts of negative camber and end up only using 195mm of your mad tyte yo 275's..

maybe we have different definitions of fit...

though iunno, maybe that wouldn't look so bad

[Koopa Troopa]

maybe we have different definitions of fit...

though iunno, maybe that wouldn't look so bad


This is Zilvia.. The majority of people here arn't going to tub their car so they can properly run a tire that size.

[!Zar!]

Some people are mistaking rolling diameter and overall width, contact patch, ect.

You can have a 17" tire combo just as tall as a 18" tire setup. Just depends which way you go.

People bitching about gaining understeer just from going an inch down on the front obviously have to learn how to drive and setup a car if that's the case.

[azndoc]

Fuck there are some ignorant dumbfucks on this board.

Staggered is made for RWD.

If you don't think so then do what you fucking want and do all the same all around.

Fuck it.

Stupid retards on this board sometimes.

Get the 17x7+40 offset wheel sizing offsets out of your minds people.

You don't drive a honda...........................

[Matej]

Same size all around with spacers in the rear, yaaay everybody happy!

[mmdb]

Why're you pondering staggering? Do you have any ill handling issue you're tackling? Staggering is safer to drive on a RWD because the car is more prone to understeer. If your car is currently oversteering doing this will help alleviate it. Although, running same size front and rear allows you to rotate the tires as the rears tend to wear faster than the fronts. For a KA24de running same size all around is fine - saves money for your hp upgrades.

[Matej]

Make sure to put the bigger wheels in the front.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/wa1do/RX_FRONT.jpg

[McRussellPants]

So I was right on 3 of 3. Fucking Bam.


at anyrate.

Shut up about tubs, I don't know why you tards think thats the end all of fitting wheels.

omg you can run 275/35/18 without tubs? half of the idiots on here do it wrong anyway and end up having the tub with the exact same location as oem where it counts.

[98s14inaz]

I'm not going to bash you for wanting to stagger but from my experience on my previous boosted s14 (1 bar ka-t) the stagger wasn't helping the handling very much. Yes the stagger looked cool and helped gain traction while cruising and in straight lines but overall it wasn't worth it. When I upgrade the current s14 I'll be doing 17x9 all the way around. That's my two cents, take it or leave it.

[MAGILLA]

If you have enough power to need a 9.5 or 10 in wide tire in the back. then you probably should stagger it. The the front wheel only needs to be so wide to be most effective, and past that you are just using up steering angle and making your turns a bit worse. I would say the widest you should go in the front is a 9 and stagger it in the back if you have the power.

And as for tire wear, a good alignment and proper balancing will help but don't expect miracles.

[lflkajfj12123]

i've seriously said this a million times it doesnt matter how big the width of the wheel is if you don't have a lot of power

its all about the tire

[jspaeth]

^+1

Stretched looks cool and gives nice feedback, but still running a 245 on a 10 inch wheel is just pointless

[Matej]

Wow I didn't know so many people think staggered wheels on 240's serve an actual purpose besides looks. :bigok:

[Aeroscraper326]

Fuck there are some ignorant dumbfucks on this board.

Staggered is made for RWD.

If you don't think so then do what you fucking want and do all the same all around.

Fuck it.

Stupid retards on this board sometimes.

Get the 17x7+40 offset wheel sizing offsets out of your minds people.

You don't drive a honda...........................


Quoted for the pure fucking truth that lies within.

[NI_YON_Zenki]

This is the most interesting suggestion I've come across on this site!

this comment could pull its own topic in the archive.

But to keep to his flavor, its all about that "super-crazy-close-to-the-wall- beating-off-on-it" angle!

So keep yah search, and your own faith in what you are looking to do with the car overall, cause if it is a DD car then, you will have a great time with natural factors and curb side service!

Best regards/


Make sure to put the bigger wheels in the front.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/wa1do/RX_FRONT.jpg

[Dousan_PG]

wow youve been gone so long

and u still talk like a retard
wtf

btw glad to hear u got your car back!

[racepar1]

This is the most interesting suggestion I've come across on this site!

this comment could pull its own topic in the archive.

But to keep to his flavor, its all about that "super-crazy-close-to-the-wall- beating-off-on-it" angle!

So keep yah search, and your own faith in what you are looking to do with the car overall, cause if it is a DD car then, you will have a great time with natural factors and curb side service!

Best regards/

Wait, what? I am so confused as to what point you were trying to get across. Anyways I don't know why everyone has such a hard-on for stagger, just like super stretched tires. Most of the serious autocross/track 240's that I have seen don't stagger and none of them run a significantly staggered setup. I guess it's all personal preference, but I just don't get it.

[Dousan_PG]

id listen to ACEinHOLE before your jackassery "race"par1

aceinhole:
At first it felt as though there was too much tire in back, especially on lower speed corner entry. Once the tires were scrubbed in, though, they felt great. The car is still a bit twitchy through the higher speed stuff, so I'm hoping newer/ better shocks will help keep the rear end in check. I definitely need to modify the roll centers, though, as I'm still getting a hint of inside rear tire lift on sweepers. Raising the front roll-center should negate that, much like the BMW's, which lift the inside front.

For the record:
the tires shown are Kumho V710, 285/30/R18 up front and 315/35/R18 in back. They sit on 18x10 +11 up front, and 18x12 with 6.75" backspacing in the rear, for wheels.

and also HALO
http://www.zilvia.net/f/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=8
- 16x7 Advan SA3R with Advan-032R 245/45R16 tires
- 16x8 Advan SA3R with Advan-032R 245/45R16 tires
- 17x8.5 +20 Rota D2 with 275/40R17 Hoosier A3S05 tires all around for track (4 new tires available extra)


before he sold his car. S2K now iirc

oh shit
STAGGERED SETUP!


OH NOESS!!


anyways

stagger is suweeeetttttttaaaaah

[NI_YON_Zenki]

just admit you love my out of the box style of online conversation.

It gives you a reason to talk what piss out that hatorade you drink so much of.

I love the euro styled TE37s you have whitewashed, wonderful blandness. what happened to the Pink? did the godzira loose its sunlight, had to move to the spray on tan did we?

wow youve been gone so long

and u still talk like a retard
wtf

btw glad to hear u got your car back!

[Dousan_PG]

you make no sense at all
wtf.
haha it boggles the mind!
for a what....26? 24? year old guy you talk like a 10 year old mentally retarded kid
no no
they would make more sense then your mindless ramblings!

[!Zar!]

just admit you love my out of the box style of online conversation.

It gives you a reason to talk what piss out that hatorade you drink so much of.

I love the euro styled TE37s you have whitewashed, wonderful blandness. what happened to the Pink? did the godzira loose its sunlight, had to move to the spray on tan did we?

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[lflkajfj12123]

one more time

just admit you love my out of the box style of online conversation.

It gives you a reason to talk what piss out that hatorade you drink so much of.

I love the euro styled TE37s you have whitewashed, wonderful blandness. what happened to the Pink? did the godzira loose its sunlight, had to move to the spray on tan did we?http://content.ytmnd.com/content/b/9/0/b90e84a144e2d00795e3c4232022950c.jpghttp://content.ytmnd.com/content/b/9/0/b90e84a144e2d00795e3c4232022950c.jpghttp://content.ytmnd.com/content/b/9/0/b90e84a144e2d00795e3c4232022950c.jpghttp://content.ytmnd.com/content/b/9/0/b90e84a144e2d00795e3c4232022950c.jpghttp://content.ytmnd.com/content/b/9/0/b90e84a144e2d00795e3c4232022950c.jpghttp://content.ytmnd.com/content/b/9/0/b90e84a144e2d00795e3c4232022950c.jpghttp://content.ytmnd.com/content/b/9/0/b90e84a144e2d00795e3c4232022950c.jpghttp://content.ytmnd.com/content/b/9/0/b90e84a144e2d00795e3c4232022950c.jpg

[SimpleSexy180]

you guys dont understand him? for fucks sake go read something other than magazines.


XD

[Dousan_PG]

you guys dont understand him? for fucks sake go read something other than magazines.


XD



you can honestly say THIS MAKES SENSE??

and i quote!



It gives you a reason to talk what piss out that hatorade you drink so much of.

[SimpleSexy180]

i think he meant to add some commas. lol

it gives you a reason to talk,what, piss out that haterade you drink so much of

[Dousan_PG]

note to self.
pull kid out of school if simplesexy180 is my kid's english teacher.

[atom]

LOL. English watttttttttttt

I think most people would do just fine running the same width all around. If you have to ask if you need to stagger you probably don't. Or just stretch the tire up front a bit. Or change the rubber you're running. Whatever.

[!Zar!]

note to self.
pull kid out of school if simplesexy180 is my kid's english teacher.

/me highfives Dousan and offers him purple koolaid.

[SimpleSexy180]

ill write dousan style...

yeah like

i wouldnt teach kids anyway

lol.

i like your wheels dousan san

its ok

love you <3

[Dousan_PG]

yeah! at least my shit makes sense
so does yours now

see, talking like retards gets us nowhere
makes us ALL GO OFF TOPIC

back to the thread.


stagger rules

case
closed
.

[lflkajfj12123]

/me highfives Dousan and offers him purple koolaid.

KOOL-AID

yes

stagger and koolaid best thread ever

[racepar1]

you guys dont understand him? for fucks sake go read something other than magazines.


XD

Alright, let's see you try to make sense of this then! No amount of punctuation could possibly help.

This is the most interesting suggestion I've come across on this site!

this comment could pull its own topic in the archive.

But to keep to his flavor, its all about that "super-crazy-close-to-the-wall- beating-off-on-it" angle!

So keep yah search, and your own faith in what you are looking to do with the car overall, cause if it is a DD car then, you will have a great time with natural factors and curb side service!

Best regards/

[!Zar!]

Alright, let's see you try to make sense of this then! No amount of punctuation could possibly help.

Dude...dude...dude...

You have a shmeckle on your chin.

Better wipe that shit up.

I mean protean is good for you and all but damn. Want a side of fries to go with the balls on your chin?

[McRussellPants]

Yeah, don't go off topic or you'll get an INFRACTION


Nihon Zenki is gay.

Racepar is DE kid, no respect given.

Using the Enter button to punctuate thoughts is boss.

fuck the police.

[lflkajfj12123]

Yeah, don't go off topic or you'll get an INFRACTION


Nihon Zenki is gay.

Racepar is DE kid, no respect given.

Using the Enter button to punctuate thoughts is boss.

fuck the police.

http://www.undergroundwestcoastrap.com/nwa.jpg

[!Zar!]

Ninjas With Attitude.

You don't know what time it is.

[lflkajfj12123]

Check it.
Hold the phone like a call on the other line
I'm on the phone with a bone of another kind
So hold on we could roll to the other side
Side of my dome is the zone you could never find
Quick hands? you might need assistance
Try to find where you are inside of my head
Stay in line single file if you can
Then, we can kick it like kickstands and,
You know I peddle to the chainslip
So fly propellers propel us to the angels
Re-pellin the fellas that's jealous of the name
It's Repellin to rappers as soon as I stage hit
So one two one two mike check
I'm out for hot in e.q. my steps
I don't use bad grammar so please excuse this
Im just tryin to let ninjas know who I iz

[McRussellPants]

None of that had anything to do with post topic.

I demand the mods give them infractions because they're most certainly not busy doing anything pertaining to actually modifying 240SXs.



s13silviagirl and mr.meph excluded... one more beer and I'll consider excluding that guy.

[lflkajfj12123]

i've already shed my light on this thread

the retardness of the topic ensures retarded replys

this thread would be better off LOCKED

and issn't viceroy king of retarded randomness

[theronin]

glad to see that zilvia hasn't really matured much. please try to stay on topic ladies.

[!Zar!]

None of that had anything to do with post topic.

I demand the mods give them infractions because they're most certainly not busy doing anything pertaining to actually modifying 240SXs.



s13silviagirl and mr.meph excluded... one more beer and I'll consider excluding that guy.

http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportation/images/idling-infraction.gif

[Yuri]

This is getting too off topic.
Next off topic post will get one of your beloved infractions.

I've always enjoyed running stagger, but I've been using 9" up front, and as stated earlier, if you run a 9 with good tires, you're pretty much set in terms of grip.

If you have understeer and your running 9"s on the front and 10 or 11"s on the rear, either your suspension setup sucks or you need to take the 240SX badging off your Maxima, it's not making it look any cooler.

[lflkajfj12123]

i thought my maxima was a four door skyline...

tire pressure, tire characteristics, and tire stretch all come into play

not so much how fat your wheel is

[Yuri]

i thought my maxima was a four door skyline...

tire pressure, tire characteristics, and tire stretch all come into play

not so much how fat your wheel is

Of course.

I was over simplifying it for everyone in this thread who seems more interested in sentence structure than actually discussing stagger setups.

I've run everything from a 215 to a 235 without understeer.
17's and 18's with between 45 and 30 aspect ratios.

[Fibercus]

staggered is a must, to many benefits

[powersteeringless180sx]

wow did this thread go off topic... it was hilarious reading everything though lol

i've got 17x9 in the front w/ 215's and 18x9.5's w/ 225's in the rear. i think i have plenty traction for daily driving.

[RedSVTFlareside]

Run what you want to. I run a staggered setup on the 240sx and a same size setup on the M3. Both are tracked and both handle well. I'd probably suggest running 17x9 on all 4 with 245/40-17 tires on a relatively stock 240sx.

I would stay away from the FR500's. They look cool and they are cheap but they are heavy and replicas are cheaply made. If you're looking to track this car I would find some better quality 2nd hand wheels for a similar price.

[wanabefast]

its all about fucking girls they like the biger wheels biger is more gooder

[theronin]

Run what you want to. I run a staggered setup on the 240sx and a same size setup on the M3. Both are tracked and both handle well. I'd probably suggest running 17x9 on all 4 with 245/40-17 tires on a relatively stock 240sx.

I would stay away from the FR500's. They look cool and they are cheap but they are heavy and replicas are cheaply made. If you're looking to track this car I would find some better quality 2nd hand wheels for a similar price.

thank you for the well thought out post. this is the kinda stuff im looking for. i would actually love to have r33 gtr's again but i highly doubt i will ever find a good set for anywhere near the price i got my old ones for.

[Fibercus]

17x9 on all 4 with 245/40-17 Azenis is what I had on my S14

+1 to replicas being heavy, they are low quality. If quality is needed anywhere its on the track, hate to see one of the reps break under the pressure.

[spool_sample]

Just get what you like and set the car up for it. Some people like stagger, some don't. It's personal preference.

I've seen plenty of cars with no stagger have a lot of understeer, and plenty of cars with big staggers have a lot of oversteer. It's all in the setup.

[DOOK]

all personal preference... it's cool to run a RWD stagger on a civic though, that is the coolest.

[SimpleS14]

In my opinion, if your into the look go for it. I honestly don't know how that fairs in the track, so I can't say if its good or not. I use a staggered tire setup on the same size rims, but only for performance purposes.

[ericcastro]

Heres a question that should have been asked on page one,
but everyone was already to busy fighting over there opinions!

What will your 240 be used for????
daily driver?
daily driver occational grip/drift?
drift car?
grip car?
your HP?
professional drifting??
SCCA nationals grip??

^Cause these all will get different answers

If your Daily driving, then stagger for looks baby!! your only at the track once in a while so no worries. Its gotta look good rollin round the mall!!

but if your going SCCA nationals, then I would go non stagger! the more suspention you do in SCCA takes you into higher classifications. So the amount of suspension work to get rid of a little understeer problem could screw you into a class your not ready for.

And If your open diff on the track, Then Stagger away, cause the larger rear tires wont push you through corners (understeer).

just my opinions, and bad spelling, and grammer. Im a drop out, what you expect. :)

[PoorMans180SX]

^yup to the last 6 posts.

/thread.