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g6civcx
12-16-2007, 07:11 PM
I'm looking for suggestions for calipers. The only constraints is they have to be OEM. They can be from any car, but it has to be OEM. I would like to also exclude exotic marques like Porsche, Ferrari, etc., namely due to price and availability.

Right now my top choice is Evo 8-9 Brembos or Z33 Track Brembos.

Any suggestions?

Quigs
12-16-2007, 07:18 PM
Can I ask why you wanna stay with OEM options?

OptionZero
12-16-2007, 07:22 PM
z33 track brembos are heavy as fuck

wilwood is probably the best bang for the buck, but for whatever reason u want OEM...

is there any reason why aluminum 30mm 300zx calipers aren't good enough...?

Dousan_PG
12-16-2007, 07:23 PM
wilwood for sure
cost
availability
and quality

Slidin240Wayz
12-16-2007, 07:24 PM
R32 GTR setup from courtesy.

g6civcx
12-16-2007, 07:30 PM
z33 track brembos are heavy as fuck

This is what everybody says, but the brakes is the one part I don't mind unsprung weight on.

is there any reason why aluminum 30mm 300zx calipers aren't good enough...?

I prefer bigger for roadracing, but Z32 calipers are actually my 3rd choice. I'm carrying more front end weight than an average S13 so every bit helps.

OEM = discount on replacement parts. When you go through a set of pads every other week, it adds up.

sijia10358
12-16-2007, 07:41 PM
just get the F430 yellow brembo brakes with the carbon rotors lol j/k....wilwoods are good but..$$$

yokotas13
12-16-2007, 08:41 PM
Listen, all i have to say
is my R32 GTR, with drilled rotors, stinless lines, and stock BMC, with endless CCR and CCX (i have both) stops my 3800 lbs wagon, in the mountains, for liek 30 minutes at a time

OEM is best IMO.

g6civcx
12-16-2007, 09:46 PM
Listen, all i have to say
is my R32 GTR, with drilled rotors, stinless lines, and stock BMC, with endless CCR and CCX (i have both) stops my 3800 lbs wagon, in the mountains, for liek 30 minutes at a time

OEM is best IMO.

I have Z32 1 1/16" master, full stainless lines from master to caliper, 180SX front and stock rear.

I can't do drilled discs for my application because repeated triple digit stops will crack it even factory Brembo drilled discs.

I think right now Z32 aluminium is my top choice unless I can source Brembo calipers at a cheaper price. I can get the Z32 for about $300US for the front pair.

xcusememisswyn
12-16-2007, 09:49 PM
Z32's with the proper BMC setup rocks.

On street tires at full weight, they never let me down.

I imagine with a race setup, at the cost, they would be more than sufficient.

98koukile
12-16-2007, 10:22 PM
Z06 6 piston calipers are like $200 each new IIRC. Just need to find a 14" rotor I think

xcusememisswyn
12-16-2007, 10:25 PM
Z06 6 piston calipers are like $200 each new IIRC. Just need to find a 14" rotor I think

200 each for the calipers?!?!

No way. Not a chance.

Maybe 2000?!

Edit:
These (http://www.corvettegarage.com/product/gm-z06-brake-caliper-package-for-corvette.html) are dirt cheap actually.

But the 6-Pistons (http://www.westcoastcorvette.com/p-999-c6-z06-brake-package-upgrade.aspx), not so much.

Although the 6-pistons at that price would still be a badass setup.

ROIDMONKEY
12-16-2007, 10:33 PM
After a few problems i finally finished my brake setup. i have Z32 calipers(aluminum) with PBM 13" rotors at front using HAWK PADS , for the rear im using also a Z32 calipers with (Z32) Project MU rotors using SPL lines all around . fucking amazing how this thing brake no joke
totally went over my budget with this setup . i spent way more that what i spected

ROIDMONKEY
12-16-2007, 10:33 PM
200 each for the calipers?!?!

No way. Not a chance.

Maybe 2000?!

Edit:
These (http://www.corvettegarage.com/product/gm-z06-brake-caliper-package-for-corvette.html) are dirt cheap actually.

But the 6-Pistons (http://www.westcoastcorvette.com/p-999-c6-z06-brake-package-upgrade.aspx), not so much.

Although the 6-pistons at that price would still be a badass setup.

plus u need special brackets for the calipers

g6civcx
12-16-2007, 10:48 PM
Fabrication is no problem. I can get any caliper to fit.

Z06 calipers? Maybe I'll look into that.

cdlong
12-16-2007, 11:29 PM
200 each for the calipers?!?!

No way. Not a chance.

Maybe 2000?!

no, he's right, like $200 each. i saw it too on a corvette forum. maybe even the one you posted. there was a huge brake thread here a while back and i think they were in it.

this is what i was talking about. starts on page 7 i think.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=93748&highlight=brake

this is where the info came from. don't know if the prices are still valid.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1631372&highlight=calipers

98koukile
12-16-2007, 11:32 PM
I found the older Z06 calipers for $110 brand new but its only a 2 piston caliper like the Q45

xcusememisswyn
12-16-2007, 11:36 PM
no, he's right, like $200 each. i saw it too on a corvette forum. maybe even the one you posted. there was a huge brake thread here a while back and i think they were in it.

this is what i was talking about. starts on page 7 i think.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=93748&highlight=brake

this is where the info came from. don't know if the prices are still valid.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1631372&highlight=calipers

Click the links in my post, they are just the underlined words.

The 2-piston ones are dirt cheap, the 6-pistons are over 2K

yokotas13
12-16-2007, 11:57 PM
I have Z32 1 1/16" master, full stainless lines from master to caliper, 180SX front and stock rear.

I can't do drilled discs for my application because repeated triple digit stops will crack it even factory Brembo drilled discs.

I think right now Z32 aluminium is my top choice unless I can source Brembo calipers at a cheaper price. I can get the Z32 for about $300US for the front pair.

My Cedric has Blanks with GTRs (well HCR32 right now i took the GTR off to rebuild) and from triple digit to slower, and hten back i never had a problem with endless pads.
i also added stainless lines front and rear, and Trust brake fluid.

cdlong
12-17-2007, 01:12 AM
Click the links in my post, they are just the underlined words.

The 2-piston ones are dirt cheap, the 6-pistons are over 2K

thanks, i know how to use the internet. he said the calipers cost $200 each and you implied that they cost $2k each. the kit costs a lot, but in the link i posted it was $1k less. even still, for a system of that caliber $2400 for all four wheels is cheap.

also, the sliders you posted are far from complete. you still need pads, rotors, and brackets.

Anto
12-17-2007, 01:26 AM
What about STi Brembos?
Evo/STi calipers use a 32mm rotor, z32 is 30mm I think z33 brembos are 30mm thick too.

Just be careful with the evo 8 brown-bo's. the first gen calipers always fade and peel.

xcusememisswyn
12-17-2007, 08:41 AM
thanks, i know how to use the internet. he said the calipers cost $200 each and you implied that they cost $2k each(sarcasm fixed with edit). the kit costs a lot, but in the link i posted it was $1k less(still not $400). even still, for a system of that caliber $2400 for all four wheels is cheap(duh. read edit).

also, the sliders you posted are far from complete. you still need pads, rotors, and brackets.(but thats still cheap for four calipers!!)

Thats what my edit said.
You may know the internet, but you fail at sarcasm and reading comprehension.


R32 GTR is a brembo setup right? Is it really that much better than Z32s?

Doin brakes over the winterrrrr

Slidin240Wayz
12-17-2007, 08:52 AM
R32 GTR is a brembo setup right? Is it really that much better than Z32s?

Doin brakes over the winterrrrr

R32 GTR is a Sumitomo setup.

R32 GTR VSpec (II) is a Brembo setup.

ROIDMONKEY
12-17-2007, 08:56 AM
R32 GTR is a brembo setup right? Is it really that much better than Z32s?
i think there is a brembo setup and a none brembo for the R32. dont think is a big of a diferent tho

ROIDMONKEY
12-17-2007, 08:57 AM
R32 GTR is a Sumitomo setup.

R32 GTR VSpec (II) is a Brembo setup.
U the man,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

TheWolf
12-17-2007, 08:57 AM
the porterfield pads for my alcons are $75 a caliper last multiple track day events. I've got 4 on them right now and plenty of pad life. OEM pads just won't hang.

g6civcx
12-17-2007, 09:10 AM
the porterfield pads for my alcons are $75 a caliper last multiple track day events. I've got 4 on them right now and plenty of pad life. OEM pads just won't hang.

I don't mind going with aftermarket pads so long as they fit OEM calipers. At least in a pinch I can get OEM pads easily without having to wait for specialty pads to arrive.


I actually like my setup now. I run Hawk pads and Brembo discs, but I know that if I need replacement parts and can't wait for shipping, I can always run auto parts store Maxima pads and Altima discs.

I only want to upgrade the calipers because I'm going 5 lug.

xcusememisswyn
12-17-2007, 09:16 AM
R32 GTR is a Sumitomo setup.

R32 GTR VSpec (II) is a Brembo setup.

Is this what I see on the IFXX thread?

pbcstylez
12-17-2007, 12:23 PM
What about porsche 993 brakes?

http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.cgi?make=Audi&engine=2.7T&model=B5%20S4&submodel=&category=Braking&subcategory=ECS%20Stage%203

Full-Lock
12-17-2007, 12:40 PM
there was a dude i saw that was rolling aston martin calipers on his s14. looked awesome. they were HUGE. ill look for the pic. but if anyone has it..post it up!!

MrChow
12-17-2007, 02:16 PM
Actually porterfield make custom pads. If you go there site and download there PDF they tell you they'll make pads for brake kits. The cost isn't that bad if I remember right.
Shiet my porterfield pads from them cost me only $119 shipped for all 4 of my.

Also another small note. Have you ever see how fast the NSX-R brakes? How they actually can out brake a GT3, F430 and a lot of the bigger brakes out there??

For the ones that have something interesting. The ones that haven't go look around on youtube for bmi nsx battles. I'll look for some links later if anyone wants.
F430
F: 380mm 6 Piston
R: 350mm 4 Piston
ABS w/ EBD (controlled by CST)

GT3 Clubsport
F: 350mm 6 Piston
R: 330mm 4 Piston
ABS

Now here's the kicker.
NSX-R
F: 298mm 2 Piston
R: 303mm 1 Piston
ABS

Some pennies for your thoughts.

OptionZero
12-17-2007, 02:27 PM
braking ability depends on weight, tires, camber, brake force distribution, etc.

Just because the NSX-R stops fast doesn't mean your 240 will because you slapped NSX-R calipers on it

original poster:
get the wilwoods, they're cheaper and better and easier to do than anything else, go look up how much their pads cost compared to decent ones for other calipers. i'd be surprised if it were more than $200 for pads, which is what some Porterfield R4's would be for 3z calipers

your OEM = cheaper hangup is only relevant if OEM is actually cheaper than aftermarket, and i don't think you can rely on that generality...

but if u must go "oem", racing-brake makes 2-pc rotors for 350z front and 300zx rear calipers

Koopa Troopa
12-17-2007, 03:31 PM
When you go through a set of pads every other week, it adds up.


Buy something other than OEM replacement pads... :tweak:

I have 33 GTR Brembo's with Apex*i 2 peice rotors and Endless CC-X pads up front. Works greats.

Wilwood's will be cheaper than any OEM setup on initial cost and rebuild.

MrChow
12-17-2007, 07:02 PM
braking ability depends on weight, tires, camber, brake force distribution, etc.

Just because the NSX-R stops fast doesn't mean your 240 will because you slapped NSX-R calipers on it
I wasn't saying anything about slapped on NSX-R calipers on a 240... I was just saying as in bigger brakes don't alway win. That a 2 pistol sider brakes really well if it's used done right. Just like you said on the every top. That is what I was getting at.

yokotas13
12-18-2007, 12:26 AM
if you go GTR calipers, you can use Z32 in a pinch. i did before

Mirage
12-18-2007, 07:32 AM
Wilwood makes a 5 lug 240 front kit now, 12.9"x1.1" (IIRC) 2 piece rotors, 4 piston forged superlite calipers, ~$950 for the slotted rotors, ~$1100 for slotted/drilled rotors. You can get wilwood stuff from summit, which usually means next day if your close to a warehouse.

g6civcx
12-18-2007, 08:50 AM
Thanks for all the tips so far. I am definitely NOT using crossdrilled or slotted discs.

After trying to find parts, right now my top choice would be the Z32 aluminium calipers.

RedStage
12-18-2007, 09:42 AM
V35 Skyline 4 pots :)
Just saw them in a mag here today...look like updated Nissan 4 pots. Silver, very nice.

sncs14
12-18-2007, 09:59 AM
Been seeing some of the newer Acura TL's (Type-S/SH) with some pretty good sized brakes lately. Probably outrageous pricing though and I couldn't find any info on the sizing.

MrChow
12-18-2007, 11:09 AM
question g6civicx what are you need bigger brakes for? More stopping power or are you having brake fade??
Also what tires are you running??