Fed up...

[BEISSEN]

Ok i am tired of alot of these newbs coming here acting stupid and ignorant.The main person that is getting on my nervers is LOREN.I love talking aboutcars and making mistakes to learn from.But Loren has never made a real topic about the 240sx just goes and puts other mebers down like he is a know it all.
   I try to keep my cool here on these boards I started out like a ass at times but learned and chilled out.I have been here for over a year maybe two can't really remember.But I feel that we need to come together and stop acting like fools here.If a newb makes a mistake help him don't bash him.We used to be a great Forum burt in the last few months it seems to have fallen to hell.
  The mods are not really helping out they don't intervein in stuff as much as they should imo.When peps on the board start to get out of hand they need to correct them and not just lock a post or bash them.I feel we need to setup some basic guidlines on this forum or start acting like mature guys/girls.I am here exspressing my anger becausre i left 240.org and freshalloy because of how peps were acting there.
   I liked the maturity on this forum much better at the time but now it is falling to the level that the rest have and did.There are alot of older members here that have been on longer then me but some have left and returned.I remeber a few members that used to post more ofter but lately have not posted much except to give heads up to meets.No one here knows all everyone has something to share we need to start helping more and listen more.
  We seem to just jump cases quicker then we used to awhile back.If there is anyone that wants to add or reply please do so but act mature and dont act dumb or you are just going to prove my point easyier.

[fodive]

agreed.

i've noticed alot more negativity latley too, ive actually been going to 240SXforums more because of it.

[SR20Fastback]

I totally understand. I havent been here as long as most of the older members, but that doesnt mean I havent spend a lot of time on these boards. Ive come to known quite a few of you on a more personal basis, I've met some of you, and I talk to a lot of you outside zilvia. I dont want people like loren, to ruin my or anyone elses experience here, because I feel zilvia is a great place to meet other enthusiasts of the 240. Lately everyone has been getting especially mad about loren, and I dont condone it, because I may be one of those people. Leaving zilvia has crossed my mind, but I dont think I will due to the fact I still believe this is the BEST 240 forum out there. There is such a great combination of knowledge, humor, class (sometimes), and a whole bunch of really cool guys and girls. I would probably miss you all too much. We need to figure out a way to fix this problem, because it seems that this type of thread is comming up all too often these days.

[bing]

it's probably not appropriate to use specific id's. you'll proabably just start a needless argument. u'd be better off dealing with it through pm's.

[SimpleS14]

There's not much that can be done....

people are just the way they are and you can't change them.....esspecially on a forum.....

This thread (or topic) has been brought up alot....but when it comes down to it there is not much that can be done.....damn I just repeated myself &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

But i have to agree with you on how quick people are to jump on someones back or hit them with a smart a$$ remark.....

[Loren]

Beissen, your a strange, indesicive man. Your post was hard to read, but here is what i got from it. You think all i do is put people down, if you actually look at my posts, i do post posts with substance, more than your posts.. of all people your the one that sticks out in my mind of posting pointless stuff. You talk about your ex girlfiend/sister and your mom/girlfriend sister's mom and your strange living conditions, getting beat up, by your sister girlfriend's mom's boyfriend and all sort of weird stuff (can anyone say inbred trailor trash).. you post when your exhaust doesn't get shipped to you right away... But i post nothing about 240s... Oh yeah, this is about 240s right?? this should be in Off Topic. fodive, your one to talk about maturity, posting about crimes online and what not.

Im very controversatial, no question about that, but i actually try not to be anymore, but some people won't let it die. Im gonna try not to post anything that anyone will find controversatial for a while, and I'll see how that goes.

[Jeff240sx]

You know what I'm fed up with? &nbsp;Posts like this. &nbsp;I am really not bashing anyone, but I just don't see a need to bring up an entire thread to call out one person that has aggrivated you. &nbsp;Why? &nbsp;I have helped out that guy a couple times. &nbsp;I really don't see anything wrong.
At least if you are gonna try to publicly humiliate someone, bring evidence, links to threads that caused your suffering. &nbsp;You want to get along, yet do this? &nbsp;I have been here for 2 years, and was (some say am) one of the cruelest, shit starting people on here. &nbsp;And yet I have lightened up a lot.
Also... you mention "back then." &nbsp;I remember, there were 40 members when I joined. &nbsp;Later, there was 1000. &nbsp;And we all got along. &nbsp;But look at the count now. &nbsp;It's like 3400, and with 7-ish moderators. &nbsp;Give them a break, because they are doing the best they can.
And if I was a mod... I'd lock this thread too!
-Jeff

[Loren]

I never had any idea people would leave over my posts. Trust me I don't want people to. But it says something about someone if they can't handle my posts.. If you notice, I rarely attack anyone personally,(I started it once) but everyone starts attacking me, so in defense i will call them out.

[BEISSEN]

Hey loren I have talked about my personal life here your right but when things go wrong and your on a brink to do some real harm to someone else or yourself it is best to talk where you feel the most comfortable.I felt that here cus a few knew me and others had similar problems.I have a strage living situation but guess what I am by far trailor trash i have no blood brothers or sisters i have no legal sisters or brothers so no incest or trailer trash here.
&nbsp;My "step"mom or my ex-girls step mom is a E7/sergant first class in the army with over 12 years served.I leave to basic training on November 6 to join the us army.If you read my post about my exhaust i said cleary there i might just be over reacting and others agreed with me and i let it bee and poted when i got so where is the wrong there.In the last week i have read several insulting posts where you were bashing someone.
&nbsp;The one that toped the cake was awhile back where you were very rude to a guy who's dad was sick and died.If you want to call me trailor trash bring proof ok.That is just completly rude and you just showed what i was talking about.I am not going to reply to a commnet like that cus i ma not trying to start a flame war.I just hope you grow up soon.

[fodive]

Loren, im not trying to start any personal ward with you here, i just thin OVERALL, there is a lot of negativity, not just you, if you have problems with me feel free to IM me, cause i dont feel like bikering over shit like this, i agree, threads liek this are agitating.

[DSC]

"The mods are not really helping out they don't intervein in stuff as much as they should imo.When peps on the board start to get out of hand they need to correct them and not just lock a post or bash them.I feel we need to setup some basic guidlines on this forum or start acting like mature guys/girls.I am here exspressing my anger becausre i left 240.org and freshalloy because of how peps were acting there."

check this place out (http://www.zilvia.net/f/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=SF;f=8) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> or send PM's...both would be an effective way of letting us know how you feel. We definitely value feedback. The members make or break a forum, so if the members are unhappy, mods/admin will do what we can to correct what has made them unhappy.

[Loren]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BEISSEN @ Sep. 30 2002,10:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Bing i am not trying to start a debate i am going to share my thoughts and i am not going to hold back.Loren is a major problem on this forum imo I am sorry but i have been here a little while and before i started to add stuff in topics i researched alot.I then learned form other members like civickilla240style has helped me out alot learning obout our cars.The first week i had my car i didn not even know it was rwd i took out a road sign and then a friend who knew alot about cars said hey you are rear wheel drive i was like yeah right.
I put my head out the door and one foot on the gas and one on the brake and smashed the gas and sre engough the rear wheel broke loose.Goes to show froma guy that did not know the car to a guy that can answer alot of questions or research and locate a problem on their own now.There are three members on this board that critisizeme all the time when they see me about my driveing but who cares.I just get tired or peole acting like A$$holes on this forum.
I know it is exspected but not this much.Loren has not made one real decent post as far as i recall.I put a cat back exhaust on my car with the factor jack and added a new gasket tha ths to be custome made and it was all installed in under 25 minutes thats takeing it off cuting putting to gether and the reinstall.That is damn quickI am proud cus i learn quick i wish others could as well.Members here will hate you till you change i used to get bashed everyday but it stopped when i grew up.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Ok, you installed exhaust in 25 minutes..... NO ONE CARES! You can talk about your entire experiences with cars in one post.. I can't, I've known what RWD was since i was 5, but do you see me posting something that inane, of course not. Read some of my posts.. I know what im talking about, and when i don't i can figure out problems using logic, see the post about the 6spd from a few days ago (not trying to toot my own horn).

[bing]

lock lock....

come on.... really, nothing good will come of this...

[DSC]

BEISSEN, hate to kill your topic but I can't see this going anywhere but downhill <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

*see my above post*

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[West]

Please keep personal fueds off the forum.

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