Maximum TIRE(Rubber) fitment thread

[a_ahmed]

This thread is for people with s chassis cars who own or know someone who owns s chassis car(s) with maximum rubber and maximum wheel width for grip in mind -- whether this be for street or track or both.

It's for the slowly growing crowd of enthusiasts who are more swayed towards lapping/maximum grip from their car as opposed to drift or looks. Those who own their car and attempt to make their car meet or exceed the performance of modern sports cars, supercars heck even hypercars... whether they just have a street car and do it for personal achievement or race it at the track. Whatever this may be to you if you are someone who likes to see/have/drive on with 255 on an 8.5", 275/285 on a 10", 3xx on a 11"/12", etc... please post. The ever growing small crowd and trend needs it's own recognition... we need to change the stereotype that S chassis cars are only good for the slammed look or drift. It's unfortunately a small crowd but people don't know what they are missing.

Post in the following manner:

YOUR CHASSIS: s13, s14, s15

WHEELS: brand, model, size, width, offset

TIRES: brand, model, width, profile, size

MISC DETAILS: power/mods/?

PURPOSE OF CAR: street/track/both

PICTURES:

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To give you guys an idea of the beauty of what this thread is attempting to do ... I will honor two of the best known S chassis cars out there.

One belonging to j-rho and one belonging to aceinthehole, I admire both cars and owners and they have given me alot of inspiration to take my time to rebuild my s13 for better things in mind one more time :)

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Aceinthehole: 285/30/18 on 18x10 front (I should let him do the post himself hope he doesn't mind, he needs no introductions)

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/Panda/_DSC2242.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/Panda/DSC_5096.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/Panda/DSC_4371.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/Panda/GA%20Tour/_DSC0767.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/Panda/GA%20Tour/_DSC0770.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/Panda/DSC_4405.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/autox/th_nnjr_dave_run08.jpg (http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/autox/?action=view&current=nnjr_dave_run08.flv)


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J-rho's S13 (another s chassis hero he needs no introduction - but his car sure needed the bn blister widebody :P)

285/30R18 F on 18x11
315/30R18 R on 18x12.5

http://www.jrho.com/sm240/CCWtestfit.jpg
http://www.jrho.com/sm240/sm240eltoro.JPG
http://www.jrho.com/sm240/1478.jpg
http://www.jrho.com/240_blog/hoodfix.jpg

Needs a bn blinster widebody!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxqkhpOrSjc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7C6VhLZ1pA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dt2xCtHCbk
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For those curious how my car looked when I first restored it:

Car when purchased for 800$ almost undrivable:
http://home.cogeco.ca/%7Eangelo-arifi/240%20project/purchased.JPG

Parts that were slowly piling up before restoration:
http://home.cogeco.ca/%7Eangelo-arifi/240%20project/oldparts.JPG

After the car was all put back together for the first time:
http://home.cogeco.ca/%7Eangelo-arifi/240%20project/1.jpg
http://home.cogeco.ca/%7Eangelo-arifi/240%20project/2.jpg
http://home.cogeco.ca/%7Eangelo-arifi/240%20project/3.jpg
http://home.cogeco.ca/%7Eangelo-arifi/240%20project/4.jpg
http://home.cogeco.ca/%7Eangelo-arifi/240%20project/5.jpg
http://home.cogeco.ca/%7Eangelo-arifi/240%20project/6.jpg

As things stand right now however, my car is completely stripped and I intend to redo it all over again, I'm just slowly again collecting parts, I know what I want, but can't afford it time/money wise at the moment, I have family priorities but I do love this hobby and my car :) But I love my family first :)

Yes I know, I don't have fat rubber or wheels, but this is just for those who were bitching attacking me if I even own an S chassis car/etc...

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As a note:
The last thread went to poo, but I spoke to ThatGuy and he said lets keep it civilized and peaceful -- it'll be cool. Lets not start a retarded war, we are all 240 owners. As soon as I created the other thread people started jumping, bitching and negging. So what? Some people are sick of the slammed/stretched/whatever look. No need for drama... get over it. I acted a little immature myself by buying into the stupid neg reps/hate/stupid comments and saying stupid things back.

But lets make it clear! If you want the stretched and slammed, -10 camber, -100 offset, 100mm spacers, 4" lowered frame scraping, 195 on a 9" 265 on a 12" look and want to prove yours is better and more pimp than the next guy go to the following two links, they are threads related to that trend.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=136032&page=13

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=129865

The point of this thread is to have a thread for people who are NOT for the above and who recognize the above as what they are sick of seeing, because it's turning 240s into the civics of the 90s.... and thus are against this trend... but they are still s chassis owners but are not for drift or show, but instead interested in extracting maximum grip performance out of the s chassis cars... something that the s chassis car was always stated as being incapable of.

To make another thing very clear! In those two stretch/slammed/whatever threads if you post something that is 'not stretched enough' or not slammed/flush enough, you get negged for it, made unwelcome, called names, etc... because you're not cool enough lol... Likewise in this thread, the same applies vice versa. Don't come into here to bitch about it. Go to those two threads instead if you want what was mentioned that this thread is not about instead. Leave the grip/maximum rubber thread alone, no hurt feelings for anyone, no drama, just love :)

SO LETS KEEP IT PEACEFUL...! :cool:

[KA24DESOneThree]

You didn't put down Jason's tire/wheel sizes, which are:
285/30R18 F on 18x11
315/30R18 R on 18x12.5

Don at PDM was running 275/40R17 on the front of his hatch.

[a_ahmed]

My bad, sorry I did not know j-rho's specs, I also don't know aceinthehole's complete specs, so I just mentioned the front sizes as best as I knew. I wouldn't mind if he posted himself here. I just wanted to give people an idea of what this thread is about. If people make their own post, lets follow the format I mentioned in the beginning of the first post. My bad :)

And thank you :)

And yes as far as memory recalls when Don ran the 5zigen 17x10+12 wheels (with I think 8mm spacers) he was running 275/40/17 on the front... but 275/40/17 is quite tall so it took him alot of work to get it working... 285/30/18 is almost absolutely perfect, its 2mm taller than stock.


Post in the following manner:

YOUR CHASSIS: s13, s14, s15

WHEELS: brand, model, size, width, offset

TIRES: brand, model, width, profile, size

MISC DETAILS: power/mods/?

PURPOSE OF CAR: street/track/both

PICTURES:

[JoeC1982]

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2926000-2926999/2926921_3_full.jpg
18x8.5/18x9.5 with 235/265 tires

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/647000-647999/647442_1.jpg
no clue on sizes, not my cars. can we get a sticky as well?

[GabeS14]

What are the spcs in the rear of the S14?
do you also know the size rims in the pic where the car is lifted and no tires?

[Slidin240Wayz]

This makes great sense.

Grip diving is fun.

FWIW the front S14 allows 17x9+20 without rubbing coilover. The rest can be calculated on the wheel spec calculator.

Carlos

[tacotacotaco]

YOUR CHASSIS: s13

WHEELS: F 17x9 +17 R 18x9.5+12 work emotion cr kai

TIRES: F 235 40 17 Federal 595ss R 245 40 18 Federal 595ss

No spacers front fenders rolled Rear fender pulled and rolled.

PURPOSE OF CAR: Grip

Suspension: Rear Spl aluminum subframe bushings, Spl traction, Toe, RUCA, Hicas sway poly bushings
Front Spl tension nismo power brace Fender braces.
Silk road RM8 coilovers

*will edit with pics later pics in photogallery right now

[KeepItBrutal.S13]

whats the wides set of tires and rims set i can go with for a stock fender S13 on coils. If it has to be a rolled or pulled a little its cool. just trying 2 c what i can do without buying over fenders yet.

[a_ahmed]

whats the wides set of tires and rims set i can go with for a stock fender S13 on coils. If it has to be a rolled or pulled a little its cool. just trying 2 c what i can do without buying over fenders yet.

^I believe one guy with a silver sil80 runs 17x9+20 with 245/40/17 and it's pretty flush with stock fenders. Looks hot too and its an awesome track car :) I hope he posts in here :) Not sure if anyone else rocks the stock fenders and more rubber though. Time will tell. I intend to get aftermarket fenders anyways :)

[S13FREEAAK]

17x9 +24 255/40/17 r-comp (flare and spacers not installed in picture)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/S13FREEAAK/coils015.jpg

17x10.5 -3 275/40/17 r-comp (30mm flare)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/S13FREEAAK/coils007.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/S13FREEAAK/coils006.jpg

[godzillarb]

YOUR CHASSIS: S14

WHEELS: 5zigen, FN01RC, 17x9 +15, 17x10 +12

TIRES: 255/40/17 front, 315/35/17 rear (not pictured, but now using Nitto 555R DRs)

MISC DETAILS: Chargespeed overfenders 20mm & 50mm. Power ~350whp

PURPOSE OF CAR: street/drag

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/tdi520/240sx/112.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/tdi520/240sx/132.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/tdi520/240sx/135.jpg

Most people don't even notice the tires because of how clean the widebody is... with higher offset I could stuff some 335s back there.

[KA24DESOneThree]

You have a drag car. Why do you have 255s up front?

Let's keep this pure, people. NO 205s/215s/225s/235s. Everyone and their mother can rock those on an S13 with no fender modifications at all, and they all happen to be on the small side.

YOUR CHASSIS: S13 coupe

WHEELS: Volk CE28N 17x9 +15
Volk TE37 17x9 +15

TIRES: Bridgestone Potenza RE01-R 245/40R17

MISC DETAILS: Suspension work. Rolled and pulled fenders. Camber at ~3.2* front, ~2.5* rear or something similar. Modified inner seam and pounded out wheel well. Note: +15 won't work in the front of an S13 if you're running KTS coilovers or similar and a 255 width tire. The tire rubs on the perches. The clearance is minimal at +10, but it does not rub.

PURPOSE OF CAR: Street/Track

PICTURES: None of the fitment. The front tires are under the fenders, the rear stick out a bit because a fellow 240er stole my roller.

The only reason I posted this is because people always are asking if 245s or 9s will fit in the front of a 240, despite the fact that there are many, many instances of tires and wheels as big or bigger fitting easily.

[MrChow]

^^^ like that rule about tire sizes.

3.2 camber???

[LB.Motoring]

http://www.jrho.com/sm240/sm240eltoro.JPG


So he put on flares on the front, but didnt cut out the metal fender?

[godzillarb]

You have a drag car. Why do you have 255s up front?



The car spends more time on the street than at the track so stopping power is important.

[JoeC1982]

The car spends more time on the street than at the track so stopping power is important.
plus it would shitty with 225's up front and 315's in the rear.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Around -3.2* camber, MrChow. I'm not sure what it is right now, as the car's been futzed with a bit in its downtime.

LB- He has rules to follow.

[hustlervibes]

Nothing special over here but decently wide?

225/40/18 f (going 245/40/18)
255/35/18 r (going 275/35/18)

With NISMO LM GT4 350Z/G35 offsets
18x8.5 +25 f
18x9.5 +30 r (i know they're weak offsets for NISMOs)

Just lowered on springs currently and don't rub anything with no fender mods :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2342/2074187651_6aaa1278c8_b.jpg

[UNITEDMASTER]

CHASSIS- S13 coupe

WHEELS - Work VS-XX/ 17x9 offset ,forget at the moment

TIRES- HANKOOK RS-2 or BRIDGESTONE SO-3. 245-40-17 all around

MISC DETAILS- fenders rolled, fronts pulled, all seams hammered,harness tucked(of course).Hammered the firewall side of wheel well also.

PURPOSE- GRIP ONLY

Quick comment just my opinion only but some of these cars are just plain ugly,yes I know this thred is not about looks . Thats not a flame or anything just my opinion. Next year Im gonna go up to 18s with a 230/650-18 F & a 270/650/18 R on 18x9with 20mm front wide fenders & 30mm rear overfenders,then cut & move the rear shocktower up,kinda like a body drop. O YEA

[KA-T_240]

Car: S13 Hatch
Rims 17x9 +20 5-zigen
Tires(RT615: F 235/40/17
R 275/40/17
Misc. Front Stock
Rear roll and slight pull -1.75 deg. camber
Lowered just over 3 inches

PICS
Front:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2165000-2165999/2165252_141_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2165000-2165999/2165252_142_full.jpg

Rear with 255 unaligned:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2165000-2165999/2165252_143_full.jpg

Rear with 275:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2165000-2165999/2165252_186_full.jpg

With my other toys: 15x8 4.5 inch backspacing 26x10 MT ET DRAGS
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2165000-2165999/2165252_184_full.jpg

[spool_sample]

Chassis: S14
Wheels: Work Emotion CR Kai, 17x9 +17
Tires: Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R, 245/40/17
Purpose of Car: Track/Autocross/Street

Notes: EASY fit for an S14. Mild roll in both front and rear and -2.5 camber F and -2.0 R. Car isn't slammed, but it could be with more fender work and camber. Plenty of inboard space for more tire.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1246/dscf5940hd7.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8701/dscf5915nb1.jpg

[fromxtor]

***EDIT THIS IS NOT MY CAR IT'S A FRIEND'S**********

YOUR CHASSIS: s14

WHEELS: lights 57 pro. 17x9 +12 and 17x10 +25

TIRES: 17x10 +25 rear 275/40-17
17x9 +12 front 245/45-17

MISC DETAILS: S14 SR Apex GT Spec Exhuaust, fake cat, Nismo mounts, safc, SSA elbow and mani, ball valve, greddy type S, 12 psi. yadda yadda

PURPOSE OF CAR: Street / Track

PICTURES:
http://www.turbotimelounge.us/albums/shane/agt.jpg
http://www.turbotimelounge.us/albums/shane/agq.jpg

[Zilvia4eva]

Great thread....

Koenig WRV's 18x9.5 +16 (w/15mm spacer = +1)....18x11 +9

front: 245/40/18
Rear:275/35/18(will upgrade to 285/30/18)

fenders getting worked on as we speak...:2f2f:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/s14eva1/181145491077_0_0.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/s14eva1/183057892997_0_0.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/s14eva1/tucking2.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/s14eva1/tucking3.jpg

[SuicidnS13]

Awesome thread, but I dont think people should be posting up pics of tires narrower than a 255 series. Especially in the rears! Post up rear end shots showing how wide your actual contact patch is-

[a_ahmed]

Let 235/245 be the absolute minimum :) It's okay, like 235 rt615 are wider than most 235 for example... so its alright but this thread should be for 245+ folks :) It's okay :) I am quite happy with the postings so far :D It should encourage more people :)

[CusCo_S14]

Chassis: S14
Wheels: Work XD9 18x9+20 18x10+18
Tires: Pirelli Pzero Nero F225/40-18 R245/40-18
Mods: Cusco everything,Peak Performance subframe spacers/tranny mount/inner and outer tie rods,Nismo motor mounts, front and rear fenders rolled and pulled
Purpose: Daily Driver


need to upload pics later today.

[aznpoopy]

YOUR CHASSIS: S14

WHEELS: gay-zigen fn's / 17x9 +15

TIRES:
ST115 245/40/17
T1R 245/40/17

MISC DETAILS:
Camber -3F -2.75R
Toe 0F .25R
Caster 7F
rma8 8/7 kg/mm
tucking tire slightly
stock fenders rolled
banged out wheel well slightly

PURPOSE OF CAR: autox. buying groceries. picking up grand ma

PICTURES: sorry. car is ugly anyway. lol

NOTES:
rear wheel is a def sunk, but the tire is right up against the fender. to go wider would prob require changing something up.
front could probably go wider. i went from 225/40 to 245/40 and i feel theres still a bit room for more without changing anything.

edit: nvm what i said about the rear. i checked today and there is tons of room for more. i could jam my index finger in there no problem. at least 1-1.5 inches more clearance available.

[KA-T_240]

Your s13 is hot :) Nice 275 rear :) :hsdance:

Thanks! I want to get 17x9 like +30 or possibly +35 then i could put tome 295's I dont think i want wide then that on a 9 inch rim.

[MrChow]

YOUR CHASSIS: S14

WHEELS: FN's / 17x9 +20 (4 luggy)

TIRES:
F: RT615 235/40/17 (didn't have 245)
R: ST115 245/40/17


MISC DETAILS:
Camber: F:-1.8 R:-2.6 and -2.4 (my stuff is fuk up need arms)
Toe: I dunno
Caster: 6.30 6 (fuk up again..)
Stance GR+ Pro 8/7 kg/mm
stock fenders haven't done anything.


PURPOSE OF CAR: DD, Auto-X, Drifting basically whatever.

PICTURES:
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v161/244/102/729733902/n729733902_211870_4118.jpg
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v161/244/102/729733902/n729733902_211871_4652.jpg

NOTES:
I rub a bit only when I'm driving hard and going into a turn that has a dip.
Right now my isn't look the great. Got in a accidents so when I get everything fixed I'm gonna roll my fenders.
Future sizes 245/40 all around.

[KA24DESOneThree]

People:
Please keep in mind that this thread is about maximum rubber and wheel fitment. It is NOT a picture thread for your tame rubber on small wheels.

It is not a "post a picture of your soon-to-be wheel setup next to your car."
We don't care about your drag radials or your R-compounds unless they're on the car. Fitment doesn't matter if the wheel/tire isn't actually mounted to the car.

Everyone and their mother has fit a 225 under stock fenders, it's nothing new.

Let's keep this thread as unadulterated as possible.

[JVD]

So he put on flares on the front, but didnt cut out the metal fender?
Ya, ob because he doesn't want to get his car dirty! Should have went with the bushwacker flares.

[Gumballf355]

http://www.dropshots.com/photos/149/20070723/131025.jpg
18x10.5 +15 with 265/35/18s front and rear... spacers to clear coils in front.
Rolled fenders to the max with a slight flare. (I should try 285/30/18s too, it looks champ. I'd need craploads of camber)
http://media2.dropshots.com/photos/149/20070429/035954.jpg
http://media1.dropshots.com/photos/149/20061206/114913.jpg
265/35/18 on a 9 in the front and 295/30/18 on a 10 in the rear... this car is dead now, but it was my first wide s14 project I did for a friend.
Someone needs to edit out anything with less than a 255 tire on a 9 inch wide wheel then make it a sticky.

[Full-Lock]

http://www.dropshots.com/photos/149/20070723/131025.jpg
18x10.5 +15 with 265/35/18s front and rear... spacers to clear coils in front.
Rolled fenders to the max with a slight flare. (I should try 285/30/18s too, it looks champ. I'd need craploads of camber)
http://media2.dropshots.com/photos/149/20070429/035954.jpg
http://media1.dropshots.com/photos/149/20061206/114913.jpg
265/35/18 on a 9 in the front and 295/30/18 on a 10 in the rear... this car is dead now, but it was my first wide s14 project I did for a friend.
Someone needs to edit out anything with less than a 255 tire on a 9 inch wide wheel then make it a sticky.

so when you put that 295 on the rear of that black/blue car you had no rear overfenders correct?
what was the exact sizing on those AMEs?

thanks

[Jung918]

YOUR CHASSIS: s14

WHEELS: URAS NS-01 17x9.5 +15 front & rear

TIRES: Falken RT-615 F: 235/40 R: 255/40

PURPOSE OF CAR: street/track

These wheels are temporary. I'll post more when I install my other set of wheels.

PICTURES:
http://www.kang.tv/james_files/zilvia/s14_1.jpg
http://www.kang.tv/james_files/zilvia/s14_2.jpg
http://www.kang.tv/james_files/zilvia/s14_3.jpg
http://www.kang.tv/james_files/zilvia/s14_4.JPG

[bloodangels13]

YOUR CHASSIS:s13

WHEELS: Advan, SAR3 , Front: 18x 8.5 +35 with 15mm spacer (20 before) Rear: 18x 9.5 +22

TIRES: Falken Azenis RT615s Front: 255/40/18 Rear: 275/40/18

BODY MODS: front: bmagic 20mm fenders rear: origin lab 30mm over fenders

MISC DETAILS: 312HP/302TQ , s13 sr w/ gt28r and supporting mods , tuned on emanage ult..... cams, valve springs/retainers, intake mani, q45 throttle body, and gt2871r this spring

PURPOSE OF CAR: DD, autox, drift

PICTURES: pics are with 20mm spacer, old Z32 front brake rotors (now Z33 track setup) and shitty lighting (i sux at pics) also wheel gap is nice and even now
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/vwyand85/newwheelsetup001.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/vwyand85/newwheelsetup005.jpg

[idriveattz32]

265/35/18 on rears and 235/40/18 on fronts:
http://www.photodump.org/stored18/Nopi129a.JPG

[steve shadows]

YOUR CHASSIS: s13

WHEELS: Enkei 17x8

TIRES: RT-615 F: 235/40 R: 255/40

PURPOSE OF CAR: street/track

Going to 17x9s and R-Comps soon.

Yes the 255 did fit on the 8 inch wheel + buldge. I love buldge

Once they are hot enough with 30 psi in them they will barely hold a 400whp exit acceleration in a 2nd gear turn. But still this is the best traction Ive had so far, on linear acceleration or exit, better than hankook rs-2 and ecstas.

PICTURES:

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/shadowerks/HPIM1575.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/shadowerks/HPIM1585.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/shadowerks/HPIM1579.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/shadowerks/HPIM1581.jpg


and for fun my busy ass engine bay

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/shadowerks/HPIM1582.jpg

[Baron Fel]

S13
kosei senkas
17x9 +18
255/40/17
front and rear

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88/Baron_Fel/caristehawsome.jpg

[Gumballf355]

so when you put that 295 on the rear of that black/blue car you had no rear overfenders correct?
what was the exact sizing on those AMEs?

thanks

Origin rear fenders molded on, chargespeed front fenders. Wheels are 18x9-0 and 18x10-5

[hstylez]

S13
kosei senkas
17x9 +18
255/40/17
front and rear


Baron: I tried googling this wheels with no luck. Can you provide some more info especially where you got them?

[upSLIDEdown]

Baron: I tried googling this wheels with no luck. Can you provide some more info especially where you got them?

Don't know where he got them, but here's some info.

http://wheelspecs.com/Kosei_wb69.aspx

[Landers]

http://www.koseijp.co.jp/

[D1GP]

can everyone please include camber specs?

[posdrift240]

11.50 M:T Drag radials on 5Zigen 8 inch rims
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee40/rb25drag/2078506993_fd84d63ce4_m.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee40/rb25drag/2079294184_1bb6ff97d7.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee40/rb25drag/0907071629.jpg

[a_ahmed]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee40/rb25drag/2078506993_fd84d63ce4_m.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee40/rb25drag/2079294184_1bb6ff97d7.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee40/rb25drag/0907071629.jpg

what the....... more frickin info?!... dont just post pics..

[posdrift240]

what the....... more frickin info?!... dont just post pics..


Sorry I edited it.

[steve shadows]

can everyone please include camber specs?

Im running 6 degrees of negative camber in the front

approx what I would say is 1 in back

[Phlip]

Wow, does this thread need to exist?
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=129865
I am on that thin line between "objective" and "subjective," so I will close this off now, since there is already a thread sticky in this very section, containing information sought in this thread.






*MOD AIM CONFERENCE*

You're safe, I apologize and +rep

[ThatGuy]

This Thread was created to seek out Non-Stretched Tires and Non-Excessive Camber.

Thread starter was told he could have the Thread if he played nice with the Pro-Stretched Tire crowd, and reported any problems without fights here.

As long as that is happening, I see no problem leaving it open, PHLIP.

[DrtyRat]

Wow, does this thread need to exist?
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=129865
I am on that thin line between "objective" and "subjective," so I will close this off now, since there is already a thread sticky in this very section, containing information sought in this thread.






*MOD AIM CONFERENCE*

You're safe, I apologize and +rep

This Thread was created to seek out Non-Stretched Tires and Non-Excessive Camber.

Thread starter was told he could have the Thread if he played nice with the Pro-Stretched Tire crowd, and reported any problems without fights here.

As long as that is happening, I see no problem leaving it open, PHLIP.

Thank you! I for one am enjoying this thread so far. I was actually going to pm Phlip about it. +1 for you guys for being opened minded.

[Zilvia4eva]

+2 keep this one alive....:2f2f:

the lowest I can go on 245/275 combo with out killing ride comfort(tein he's on soft setting)....and believe it or not they dont rub.Camber at (2.7 front,2.5 rear)

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/s14eva1/179415292805_0_0.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/s14eva1/178626506373_0_0.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/s14eva1/178625860997_0_0.jpg

[Z33dori]

wow that would have been F-'d up if this were closed....

back on topic...

does anyone have a pics with 240 pushing 315s...is this even possible on a S Chassis

[Prok0]

does anyone have a pics with 240 pushing 315s...is this even possible on a S Chassis


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v715/Prok0/album_pic1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v715/Prok0/album_pic2-1.jpg

315 bfg drag radials, stock fender.

[cdlong]

now that's what i'm talking about. how about some wheel specs? did you even roll the fender at all?

[Gumballf355]

Looks like just a roll with slight flaring... I bet this gives alot of S14 owners some hope. Imagine if you will, 285/30/18s and 315/30/18s. WOW. Not too many cars put down that kind of rubber. Your drag car should have a license plate that reads "MAGNUMS" and then on the frame have it say PORNOGRAPHICALLY HUGE RUBBERS.

[cdlong]

^Uhm its already been done have you even seen my first post... even on an s13... 295 front and 315 rear...

flares make anything possible. if Prok0 ran flares he could fit 355s or something obnoxious. it's impressive because it's on a virtually stock body.

[a_ahmed]

355s on an s13 and even s14 have yet to be done :)

[Subzeroqc]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v715/Prok0/album_pic1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v715/Prok0/album_pic2-1.jpg

315 bfg drag radials, stock fender.
wheel specs plz? I was looking to fit some 305's back there but need advice on offset for stock fenders.

[Prok0]

Just to clarify, that isnt my car, although I know the guy who owned it at the time..

Wheel specs, not really sure other then they are 17x10 mas italy wheels made for a stang.. So offsets probably in the +20 to +30 range.

And the fender was rolled.

[godzillarb]

Just to clarify, that isnt my car, although I know the guy who owned it at the time..

Wheel specs, not really sure other then they are 17x10 mas italy wheels made for a stang.. So offsets probably in the +20 to +30 range.

And the fender was rolled.

IIRC they're +27 with 305s, not 315s.

[posdrift240]

wow that would have been F-'d up if this were closed....

back on topic...

does anyone have a pics with 240 pushing 315s...is this even possible on a S Chassis


isnt 315's about 11.50" - 12.00" wide? I don't have 315's but I am Running 11.50 M:T drag Radials!! I am running a 35mm offset.

[cdlong]

12.40157480"

[Daniel.]

Those 315's on a stock fender is nuts.

I was just about to try and fit something at least 295 all around on the evo but now that 315 tire has me thinking.

[jussjepbrox]

http://www.jrho.com/sm240/sm240eltoro.JPG


So he put on flares on the front, but didnt cut out the metal fender?


what are these wheels called ive been looking for them

[aznpoopy]

what are these wheels called ive been looking for them


i believe they are CCW's

http://www.ccwheel.com/files/home.php

edit: now i'm sure they are
http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/262961.aspx
CCW "track classics"
18x11" front (approx. 20 pounds), 18x12.5" rear (approx. 22 pounds)
285/30-18 front, 315/30-18 rear Hoosier A6 tires

[S13FREEAAK]

How about some wide 16s.

Circa 2004

16x9.5 CCW +10 up front +35 in rear
245/45/16 all the way around
unknown camber
slight pull up front.

http://a866.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/71/l_13b470e0dc7c9e894826b678e72aa371.jpg

[posdrift240]

How about some wide 16s.

Circa 2004

16x9.5 CCW +10 up front +35 in rear
245/45/16 all the way around
unknown camber
slight pull up front.

http://a866.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/71/l_13b470e0dc7c9e894826b678e72aa371.jpg

Nice ride Black Is Sexy!!!!

[xamraci]

How about some wide 16s.

Circa 2004

16x9.5 CCW +10 up front +35 in rear
245/45/16 all the way around
unknown camber
slight pull up front.

http://a866.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/71/l_13b470e0dc7c9e894826b678e72aa371.jpg


mmm CCWs...that thing got a V8 in it? Looks sick:bigok:

[turtl631]

Someone needs to post up Sasha's setup, here goes. His racecar was 18x9.5 RPF1 front with 275/35/18 RA1 and 18x10.5 rear with 305/35/18. Not sure on offsets, check ziptied if you really want to know. Worked well for his endurance racing purposes. I'm assuming since he recently parted the car out and was selling lots of damaged body parts that it got crashed.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/turtl631/SashaS143.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/turtl631/SashaS144.jpg

Full Race/Brady time attack S14: 17x9 +17 MB Weapons, 275/40/17 slicks all around
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/turtl631/_H0J0087.jpg

My car: 17x9 +17 MB Weapons, 245/40/17 Kumho MX all around, rolled fenders, car a little bit too low for my tastes so I have some rubbing up front at full lock. I want something like Sasha's setup next with some used R comps. I got this current setup because it was cheap and a sure thing as far as fitment goes.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/turtl631/CIMG1102.jpg

[mmdb]

YOUR CHASSIS: s14

WHEELS: Nismo LM GT4 -
TIRES: Maxxis 265 / 18 / 30+ 5mm spacers up front
PURPOSE OF CAR: everything

I'm going to try to fit 285 / 30 / 18 in the rear. Otherwise, if anyone has ever done so let me know.

[articdragon192]

Might as well post my Z at this is Zilvia.

19x10 +24
265/30-19

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ArticDragon192/My%20Fairlady/IMG_8473.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ArticDragon192/My%20Fairlady/IMG_8472.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ArticDragon192/My%20Fairlady/IMG_8471.jpg

I can fit 275/30-19s if I wanted to.

[hustlervibes]

YOUR CHASSIS: s14

WHEELS: Nismo LM GT4 -
TIRES: Maxxis 265 / 18 / 30+ 5mm spacers up front
PURPOSE OF CAR: everything

I'm going to try to fit 285 / 30 / 18 in the rear. Otherwise, if anyone has ever done so let me know.

285's on a LM GT4? I hope you have a 10" wide LM GT4 because I have them too and I'm running 9.5" back (common size) and 275 is the biggest you can safely go.

[articdragon192]

Actually, LM-GT4s are either 9.5 or 10.5.

[hustlervibes]

Actually, LM-GT4s are either 9.5 or 10.5.

Whatever, I meant at least a 10" wide. I do not remember the exact widths they come in, but the most common are 8.5 front and 9.5 rear. And upon further investigation a 285 MIGHT fit depending on the tire, but it'd be a little too big to fit on the rim if it was me.

[articdragon192]

We've done a 285 on a 9.5j wheel before at work. It's very possible.

[Broadfield]

Finally!!!!!! A thread where I don't have to explain why I didn't buy a 10" wide wheel with +0 offset and a frigging 225 tire stretched around it :loco:

First setup:

Wheels: WedsSports TC-005's 18x8.5 +32 18x10 +44
Tires: 245/40 and 275/35
Suspension: Cusco Coilovers
Power: 400whp
Daily driven with some track
Rolled fenders front and rear

http://images24.fotki.com/v863/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_1877-vi.jpg

http://images23.fotki.com/v869/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_1880-vi.jpg

http://images24.fotki.com/v854/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_1885-vi.jpg

New setup:

Wheels: Work Meister S1 2P's 18x8 +32 A-disk(for the big brakes) 18x9.5 +44 O-disk
Tires: 235/40 and 265/35

http://images28.fotki.com/v986/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_2401-vi.jpg

http://images28.fotki.com/v1002/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_2413-vi.jpg

http://images27.fotki.com/v983/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_2308-vi.jpg

[turtl631]

You can definitely go bigger than 275 on a 18x9.5" wheel. Stock class autocrossers with RX8s and Solstices with 18x8" wheels run 285/30 all the time. Most 285/30s are rated for use on a 9.5" wheel. It might not have the best contact patch on a wheel that's on the narrow side of its rated range, but it will fit on there and be safe.

[sideview_180sx]

i noticed essentially autoX, and drag guys posted there setup. yet I've only seen one road race minded car (that being sasha, who has a z33 to race with for next season). I know in some instances you are limited by tire width due to class and what not. The point of this thread seems lost to me, with out at least digging into the area where jason rhoades and aceinhole really spend the money on. suspension. what good is having massive amounts of rubber if the suspension isn't up to the task.

275 isn't necessary on our cars. hell if we are road racing 255/40/17 RA1 or NT-01s should be fine enough without going widened fenders.

[turtl631]

This thread is about large wheel/tire fitment, not an overall strategy for building a track car.

Aceinhole had D2 coilovers until very recently. Clearly, big tires were of benefit to him despite his less-than-ideal suspension.

Have you tested various tire widths by comparing track times? Sure, 245s or 255s are probably adequate and the best choice for most, but that's not to say that larger tires won't turn faster laptimes. I'm guessing Sasha wasn't running 275 f/305 r just for looks.

[mmdb]

This thread is about large wheel/tire fitment, not an overall strategy for building a track car.

Aceinhole had D2 coilovers until very recently. Clearly, big tires were of benefit to him despite his less-than-ideal suspension.

Have you tested various tire widths by comparing track times? Sure, 245s or 255s are probably adequate and the best choice for most, but that's not to say that larger tires won't turn faster laptimes. I'm guessing Sasha wasn't running 275 f/305 r just for looks.

For looks? I doubt it. Once you start pushing high hp and tq a wider wheel is highly desirable, if not, needed.

[gsracer]

CAR
s14 stock body just pulled

WHEELS
Work meister S1 3 piece
front
18 by 10 + 18

Rear
18 by 11 + 18

TIRES
front
275/30/18
Rear
315/30/18

SUSPENSION
Tien coilovers
Rear ARms
Solid subframe

ALIGNMENT
front
zero toe
2.5 degrees

Rear
zero toe
1.5 degrees

CARS USE
Drift / Drag / Grip
Pretty much everything but daily

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/VH%20POWER/IMG_5404.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/drift%20sessions%20oct%2014/IMG_6758.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/drift%20sessions%20oct%2014/IMG_6598.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/drift%20sessions%20oct%2014/IMG_6562.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/drift%20sessions%20oct%2014/picture260copyma2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/drift%20sessions%20oct%2014/picture242copyjr3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/drift%20sessions%20oct%2014/IMG_5146.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/new%20hotness/IMG_5460.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/new%20hotness/IMG_5461.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/new%20hotness/IMG_5469.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/new%20hotness/IMG_5479.jpg

[sc300turbo]

very nice thread...i need some wider rubber on the back of my s13
i have a 16x8..im gonna check the offset and ask for opinions...
Jeff

[KA-T_240]

gsracer FTW!

I run 275s on my 9 inch rims, and would have to concerns about saftly running a 285, 285 would be considered... but with low profile tires you start to push it there if you want to handle.

My car sees the road course. I dont go door to door racing, but do HPDE. I also do 6-7 drag days a year, and 7+ auto-x.

[hustlervibes]

gsracer FTW!

I run 275s on my 9 inch rims, and would have to concerns about saftly running a 285, 285 would be considered... but with low profile tires you start to push it there if you want to handle.

My car sees the road course. I dont go door to door racing, but do HPDE. I also do 6-7 drag days a year, and 7+ auto-x.


Instead of going 10mm wider (doesn't do that much) just get a stickier compound.

[lucky7]

this thread is awesome. when i get my HX35 on, and re-tuned. ill be looking for this thread. my 225's are barely cutting it now. this shit is inspirational. i hate extreme fender mods. but i need some fatter tires.

[KA-T_240]

Instead of going 10mm wider (doesn't do that much) just get a stickier compound.

I didnt say i needed to go bigger. I was saying that I wouldn't have any concerns with going bigger then the size I have on a 9inch rim. Like earlier someone stated that its not safe to have a 285/295 on a 9.5 rim

[jlkmotox]

I don't have any pictures but on my s14 i have 18x9.5 with +12 offset MB Drifter wheels and 275/35/18 yokahama advan neova's on all 4. the front has wide body fenders and i pulled the rear out about an inch with a fender roller. i had to run about -2.5 camber in the front and about -2 on the rear. on the rear there was still room to go in about an inch in and use wider-less offset wheels. probably could have fit 315's under there. but i like the way it looks now.

[RedSVTFlareside]

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/RedSVTFlareside/L-216.jpg
Stock suspension
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/RedSVTFlareside/DSC01995.jpg
after coilovers and control arms
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/RedSVTFlareside/DSC01993.jpg

BBS E26 GT2 race wheels
Front 17x9.5 245/40-17
Rear 17x10 275/40-17

I have the wheels off the car because they have broken. :( I'm buying some new rim halves and I plan to run 17x10 in front with 275/40-17 and 17x12 rear with 315/35-17 tires.

50mm rear fenders and 20mm front fenders(not enough, I'm going to end up making custom ones to fit 275's in front)

I use the car for Track events and its my back up car when my super reliable BMW M3 breaks down. I have aspirations of racing it in NASA PT series in a couple years.

[S13FREEAAK]

[IMG]
BBS E26 GT2 race wheels
Front 17x9.5 245/40-17
Rear 17x10 275/40-17

I have the wheels off the car because they have broken. :( I'm buying some new rim halves and I plan to run 17x10 in front with 275/40-17 and 17x12 rear with 315/35-17 tires.

50mm rear fenders and 20mm front fenders(not enough, I'm going to end up making custom ones to fit 275's in front)


What offset/backspacing do those wheels have?

[RedSVTFlareside]

What offset/backspacing do those wheels have?

I'm really not sure exactly... I measured them once a few years ago. I think it was something like +12 in front and -6 in the rear. My numbers could be off. They aren't really sold with offset sizes; you order the rim halves by width. The front fit without a spacer but it is very close to the coilover, I couldn't add any more to the inner rim half. There is plenty of room for more inner rim on the rear though.

Front -
outter rim - 1.5
inner rim - 8

Rear -
outter rim - 3
inner rim - 7

I'm ordering new outter 2" halves for the front and 9" inner halves for the rear. I had one fatigue crack on me. See the crack going through all the bolt holes. So I decided to go for maximum width since I'm ordering new parts anyway.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/RedSVTFlareside/DSC01983.jpg

As a note I didn't order the current sizes. I picked up the wheels 2nd hand from a 2001 ford mustang GT2 racecar. That is why the wheel offset isn't quite ideal yet.

[-rip it up s13-]

http://a729.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/104/l_9994d972586f5c405c447aecc9f04ac8.jpg (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=150920463&albumID=1126642&imageID=7346458)

17x8.00 215/45/17 front 275/45/17 rear

[RedSVTFlareside]

17x8.00 215/45/17 front 275/45/17 rear

Wow thats a big stagger. Does it understeer?

[KA-T_240]

Wow thats a big stagger. Does it understeer?

I would imagine, I have understeer with 235/275 setup.

what would you change to get around that?

[a_ahmed]

Thank you for keep this thread going everyone :)

To RedSVTFlareside (http://www.zilvia.net/f/member.php?u=33249) can you tell me more info on those wheels, like who they are made by etc... They are thus three piece, you can change both front and rear ends :) ?

Also rip it up welcome :) Don't lower your car more, it's lame, add more rubber up front instead :) Improve your car's handling, traction and grip instead of making it slippery :) Add 245s or 255s or something up front instad.

[-rip it up s13-]

lol alright thx guys :) :) for welcoming me.. i have not had any trouble with understeer at all!!! i dont grip with it tho i mainly drift. and i have some 225's i wanna try in the front ill tell you all how they work:) i dont have the names for the rims idk what they are i got em off craigs list during the swap and they were cheap and look great. and i looove the off set i dont have any spacers in there right now :)

[RedSVTFlareside]

Thank you for keep this thread going everyone :)

To RedSVTFlareside (http://www.zilvia.net/f/member.php?u=33249) can you tell me more info on those wheels, like who they are made by etc... They are thus three piece, you can change both front and rear ends :) ?

Thanks for the kind words. They are magnesium center BBS style E26 wheels. Yes, 3 piece. Here's some info and one US rep. Hope it helps you.

http://www.bbs-racing-wheels.com/index.htm

http://www.bobwoodmantires.com/wheels/wheels.html

[SoSideways]

Did anyone have problems with their power steering w/ such massive tires in the front?

I was thinking of going with a 255 or 275 up front, on a 17x10 +12 w/ 20mm over fenders.

Question is, would I fry the PS pump or fluids? I've heard of people boiling their fluid from huge front tires before, and a cooler is just taxing your pump more than it's designed for, so... what's the word?

[KA-T_240]

If you are going that big and track your car/or drift alot and shit like that you should run a PS cooler(which being all the lines are hardlines woouldn't be a extremely hard thing to do.

You know the long line that goes from side to side on the S13, it is from what I understand used to cool fluid, thats the only thing I can figure out. Removing that line and installing a small cooler should not put that much strain on the pump.

Also Tie Rods are probably a extremely good thing to do at that size.

[hstylez]

Question is, would I fry the PS pump or fluids? I've heard of people boiling their fluid from huge front tires before, and a cooler is just taxing your pump more than it's designed for, so... what's the word?

LOL @ power steering. I hate the false feeling you get from power steering. Remove it.

[SoSideways]

Tie rods will be Tein inner and outter, don't worry :)

And yes, you are correct in that the hardline that goes from the driver's side to the passenger side and back is indeed there to serve as a caveman style cooler.

Not that I don't believe what you're saying KA-T_240, I just want to hear someone that has that huge of tires up front and have done some track events (I've emailed Sasha from SequenceGarage already, hopefully he has some time to email me back) to give me some feedback on the PS issue. But thanks nonetheless!

LOL @ power steering. I hate the false feeling you get from power steering. Remove it.

Congrats.

No.

[RedSVTFlareside]

LOL @ power steering. I hate the false feeling you get from power steering. Remove it.

Good idea! Or have you driven a car with wider than 215 tires on it and no power steering? How about some r-comps with no powersteering? Didn't think so.:)

[Gnnr]

No Power Steering = GAY

We ain't talking about a 91 Civic hatch that weighs 2000lbs on 195s. :keke:

[gsracer]

On my fronts 275/30/18 . I have boiled the powersteering on two laps, put in a small cooler no more boiling.

[a_ahmed]

where the hell did u get a 275/30/18?? I could not find such a tire at all :-/ even 285/30/18 is kind of rare.. yes there are r compound tires but not anything like an rt-615 or re01r or better but not r type tyre...

[Adam496]

I have Pirelli P zeros in 285/30/18s...tire rack has them. The are just a little pricey

[gsracer]

Im sorry it was 275/35/18 azenis rt615 i was talking about

[UfoZ8myCow]

17x8.00 215/45/17 front 275/45/17 rear

275/45s on a 17x8?

That does not sound safe AT ALL.

[SimpleSexy180]

holy shit, 275+ on your fronts?

THIS THREAD IS AWESOME

MORE PICS

[cdlong]

read it again, 215 front and 275 rear. if they're both on 17x8s it doesn't sound like either is optimal.

[SimpleSexy180]

haha i meant this 275....

On my fronts 275/30/18 . I have boiled the powersteering on two laps, put in a small cooler no more boiling.

[2bad240]

s14
atechs 17x9 +27 245/40f 275/40r
street/drag

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc150/2bad240/100_1266.jpg




http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc150/2bad240/100_1262.jpg

[zavala]

i'm thinking of getting some of those a-tech comps in 17x9 +17 how do you like yours? any one know the weight?

[eastcoastS14]

CAR
s14 stock body just pulled

WHEELS
Work meister S1 3 piece
front
18 by 10 + 18

Rear
18 by 11 + 18

TIRES
front
275/30/18
Rear
315/30/18

SUSPENSION
Tien coilovers
Rear ARms
Solid subframe

ALIGNMENT
front
zero toe
2.5 degrees

Rear
zero toe
1.5 degrees

CARS USE
Drift / Drag / Grip
Pretty much everything but daily



just curious how this set up would be for the street even tho you dont use it for that...car looks badass and Id love to have a similar set up...I would think those 315's would give you more traction on the street...no?

[McCoy]

I'll bite... this is for my track wheels/tires

S13

Wheels/Tires
17x9 +35 5zigens
275/40/17 RA-1's

2 degrees camber F/R

Suspension
Front
- Koni 8610 inserts
- Custom Housings (Veilside180sx)
- Tein Camber Plates
- GC sleeves
- 550lb, 6" springs
Rear
- Koni yellows
- GC sleeves
- 400lb, 7" springs
- Tein pillowmounts

Modifications/Spacers
- no spacers currently, might use a 2-3mm spacer if needed
- need to roll/pull front and rear to fit.

Pictures...

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/959/RA1_test_fitment_05.jpg

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/959/medium/RA1_test_fitment_03.jpg

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/959/medium/RA1_test_fitment_no_spacer_01.jpg

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/959/medium/RA1_test_fitment_no_spacer_02.jpg

-Monty

[a_ahmed]

Finally I get to see your setup live, but like, 17x9+35 and u fit 275/40/17 up front? I know that the custom coilover setup, the housing is meant to add some clearance, but wow?.. no spacers?

[Gumballf355]

Looks like he made extended lower perches?? Lets hear more!

[a_ahmed]

If my calculations are right... and of course calculations are always wrong... well most of the time in real life...

a 18x10.5+15 with 295/30/18 would be 1mm shorter in backspace (further away from coilover) than mcoy's setup, sidewall would be 21mm shorter, tire would be 17mm shorter (wow), it would stick out 30mm further out so widebody would be required.. but speaking of the inside.. it would basically have same/better clearance...

thats nuts... 18x10+15 = enkei rpf 1 or volk se37k... like omg lol

[McCoy]

Finally I get to see your setup live, but like, 17x9+35 and u fit 275/40/17 up front? I know that the custom coilover setup, the housing is meant to add some clearance, but wow?.. no spacers?
Thanks. With an 8" spring I had to use 10mm spacers, so it was a combination of the custom housings and the location of the spring perch that allow me to run this setup without spacers.

a 18x10.5+15 with 295/30/18 would be 1mm shorter in backspace (further away from coilover) than mcoy's setup, sidewall would be 21mm shorter, tire would be 17mm shorter (wow), it would stick out 30mm further out so widebody would be required.. but speaking of the inside.. it would basically have same/better clearance...
You'll have 1mm more clearance from the wheel/strut and stick out an addition 39mm. Also with the tire having a smaller diameter than mine, you won't have as much of an issue keeping the perch above the tire.

[JoeC1982]

wheelweights.net

back on topic now please...

[ripnbst]

Could I fit a 225/45/17 on a 17x7.5 wheel or would it be too wide?

[a_ahmed]

uhm 225 is not wide... wrong thread :)

I would fit it on an 8... 7 ur maybe talking 215... imho... to really benefit from the full thread...

Edit: my dad runs 225/50/16 on a 16x6 lol.. sure itll work but yea it won't really be solid... he bought new 16x7.5 wheels though :) (2lbs lighter than stock too :P).. and its for a non nissan car but whatever..

[McCoy]

Could I fit a 225/45/17 on a 17x7.5 wheel or would it be too wide?
A 7.5" wide wheel is about right for a 225 width tire... a quick trip to tirerack.com shows that the wheel width should be somewhere between 7-8.5".

[UfoZ8myCow]

Could I fit a 225/45/17 on a 17x7.5 wheel or would it be too wide?

That's a joke right...?

Because if it isnt, then you obviously have the reading comprehension of a house cat. There are guys on here running 9-10" wide wheels with way more rubber than a 225 on stock fenders and youre asking if a 7.5 on 225s is too wide??

[KA-T_240]

That's a joke right...?

Because if it isnt, then you obviously have the reading comprehension of a house cat. There are guys on here running 9-10" wide wheels with way more rubber than a 225 on stock fenders and youre asking if a 7.5 on 225s is too wide??

I think he is asking more along the lines of if the tire will work on the rim. Not if the rim/tire combo will fit.

Unless you have some crazy offset rims that setup will work just fine. I ran a 225 on S13 SE rims

[axiomatik]

Could I fit a 225/45/17 on a 17x7.5 wheel or would it be too wide?

a 225 tire will be pretty much perfectly square on a 7.5" wide wheel, meaning your sidewalls will be pretty much vertical, no bulge nor stretch.

[ripnbst]

That's a joke right...?

Because if it isnt, then you obviously have the reading comprehension of a house cat. There are guys on here running 9-10" wide wheels with way more rubber than a 225 on stock fenders and youre asking if a 7.5 on 225s is too wide??

MEOW

I think he is asking more along the lines of if the tire will work on the rim. Not if the rim/tire combo will fit.

Unless you have some crazy offset rims that setup will work just fine. I ran a 225 on S13 SE rims

Correct, I was asking if the tire would fit the rim, not the rim/tire the car.

[240trainee]

Monty - looks good, you gonna lower any more? With a bit of a pull, you could go at least an inch lower and still have all the travel I assume you want.

[McCoy]

Monty - looks good, you gonna lower any more? With a bit of a pull, you could go at least an inch lower and still have all the travel I assume you want.
Thanks! I'm not going any lower just yet. If you look at my tire/spring perch picture back a few posts you'll see that I'll need spacers (10mm minimum) if I drop the car even 1/4". If I do that then I'm sure I'll have issues with the tires clearing the fenders, and I'm not ready to purchase wide fenders yet. Funds are currently going towards finishing the rear 86XX suspension/Z32 uprights and some safety equipment. I'll be coming back to getting wider fenders once I verify (first few track days of 08) that a 275/40 RA-1 is the tire I want to stick with and go lower then.

Another issue I have is that I live in an area that is very hilly, driveways and alot of the local businesses have steep entrances that cause low cars issues with scraping entering/exiting.

I do have an Eastwood fender roller in the garage and will be using that and whatever else it will take to roll/pull the fenders to fit what I have now. I'm sure with the spring rates that I'm running that it probably isn't needed unless I have an off at high speeds... which is more than possible with my local track and lack of ABS.

I was able to take a few more pictures from the front and back after finishing up the install this last weekend... to bad there's still snow on the ground here or I'd be out driving it :(

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/959/medium/RA1_front_view.jpg

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/959/medium/RA1_rear_view.jpg

[azn_romeox]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/aznromeox/s14day2023.jpg
I've had stretched tires and now i'm looking for as maximum amount I can put down.
Sold the te37's
18x9 +10 245/18 Bridgestone re-01r
18x10.5 +15 265/35/18 Bridgestone re-01r

The shine work wheel is what I currently rock on my s14
17x8.5 +44 w/ 25mm slip spacer 245/40/17 (wish I had gone bigger)
17x9.5 +44 w/ 5mm slip on spacer 275/40/17 I have a plently of room for 285. Folded the lip up, that was all the mods
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/aznromeox/sonoma0032.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/aznromeox/sonoma0043.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/aznromeox/DSC_0402.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/aznromeox/ls1240sx.jpg

[gawdzilla]

Cool thread! Nothing crazy by any means.. but on my S14, here's MT ET street bias plies 26x11.5x16 on a 16" mustang wheel (sorry don't know the offset.. internet probably has it somewhere. i believe the wheel is 8" wide but don't quote me on that).. fender was unrolled during fitment picture. It clears when the car isn't low but eventually I rolled the lips cuz the car went lower. I share the drag wheels with a friend who has an FC. Fits pretty decent on both.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a37/gawdzilla/PICT0072.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a37/gawdzilla/PICT0074.jpg.

On the street/turn track I'm running 275/40/17 R and 255/40/17 F, RT-615s on R33 wheels (17x9+30). No spacers. Sorry no good pics of it

[KA-T_240]

^^Post pics of the car with R33 wheels

[azn_romeox]

Buddy of mine put a setup on his car
s14
275/40/17 Front R33 17x9 +30 Roll the front lips over and liners come off (tein coilovers)
275/40/17 Rear R33 17x9 +30 Roll the Lip and your good to go.

[cdlong]

any spacers? i find it hard to believe that he could fit 1" more tire on the inside compared to my setup (225 on R32 GTR wheels with c/o). there's barely any room as it is.

[a_ahmed]

R32 GTS wheels are 16x6.5+40 and R32 GTR wheels are 16x8+30... I run GTS wheels on mine... it all depends on coilover/damper housing setup/suspension settings like camber... and banging/no liners :P Also tire/height/sidewall profile etc.. matters when it comes to fitment

*Edit* Double post

[a_ahmed]

*double post*

[cdlong]

edited. i figured everyone could figure out/assume i was talking about GTR wheels. i left out all the other info because it's superfluous.

[gawdzilla]

^^Post pics of the car with R33 wheels
http://www.photodump.org/stored17/RTA089.jpg
found this image on the internet (credit to whoever's photo it is) of my car (after redline time attack where I was a last minute replacement for my cousin) with said r33s no spacers. rt-615's 255/40/17 F, 275/40/17 R. rear fenders are rolled a bit, fronts are stock, fender liner still in place.

I tried putting the 275s on the front (tein flex coilovers) and had fitting issues. aznromeox says his friend did it, but the inner tire sidewall hit the spring on mine (factory camber settings at the time). Not saying it's not somehow possible but I didn't attempt much further (don't want to use spacers or crazy camber just yet)

With 255s on the front no spacer, the rim itself is maybe 3-5mm away from interfering, and the lettering on the inside of one of my 255s has just barely been rubbed away from the spring. I need to pull the coil towards the inside more before tightening to clearance it, then make camber adjustments up top at the perch. Haven't gotten around to it cuz of time, but the rubbing is very surface (raised lettering only) and has since stopped.

[300hp owen]

maybe with camber bolts in the lower mounts of the tein coilovers and then setting the camber plate to full negative he was able to gain some clearance to the strut around the spring perch for such a wide wheel?

just an idea, I know a lot of guys tinker with using camber bolts in both locations on the knuckle on each side of the car and sometimes at all four corners of the car, STIs do it to gain neg. camber and some do it to gain inside wheel well clearance to the suspension.

[azn_romeox]

http://www.photodump.org/stored17/RTA089.jpg
found this image on the internet (credit to whoever's photo it is) of my car (after redline time attack where I was a last minute replacement for my cousin) with said r33s no spacers. rt-615's 255/40/17 F, 275/40/17 R. rear fenders are rolled a bit, fronts are stock, fender liner still in place.

I tried putting the 275s on the front (tein flex coilovers) and had fitting issues. aznromeox says his friend did it, but the inner tire sidewall hit the spring on mine (factory camber settings at the time). Not saying it's not somehow possible but I didn't attempt much further (don't want to use spacers or crazy camber just yet)

With 255s on the front no spacer, the rim itself is maybe 3-5mm away from interfering, and the lettering on the inside of one of my 255s has just barely been rubbed away from the spring. I need to pull the coil towards the inside more before tightening to clearance it, then make camber adjustments up top at the perch. Haven't gotten around to it cuz of time, but the rubbing is very surface (raised lettering only) and has since stopped.


I'll have to see If I can get pictures of it. Its pretty impressive.
BTW: hes running for tires Fusion ZRI 275/40/17 all the way around. From my experience with this tire, it seems a little bit narrower than some. To note, its damn close to the strut with maybe 1.5 degree of camber up front. Some may have issues with it hitting struts as I have had in the past, it depends on the coilover, some are larger in diameter than others.

[gawdzilla]

I'll have to see If I can get pictures of it. Its pretty impressive.
BTW: hes running for tires Fusion ZRI 275/40/17 all the way around. From my experience with this tire, it seems a little bit narrower than some. To note, its damn close to the strut with maybe 1.5 degree of camber up front. Some may have issues with it hitting struts as I have had in the past, it depends on the coilover, some are larger in diameter than others.
cool, some pics and exact details on settings would be helpful! not saying it can't be done. just on my particular setup at the time, it wasn't happening/required significant changes to how i wanted to run the car

[mmdb]

285 / 30 / 18 tires on the rear of an s14 with 9.5" width wheel with 30+ offset fits without rubbing with a very good roll (use an eastwood roller or equivalent).

[a_ahmed]

^
Post pictures not words

[a_ahmed]

My birthday is on the 25th, lol give me fat tires in this thread:P

[heychris]

My ca rhas R33 wheels on it w 245/40 17 in tires w 10mm spacers. no fender trim or roll, GPsports coilover all around and big brakes. everything clears just fine, though the car sit rather high..pics to follow

[posdrift240]

I wanna see a 240 tubbed out with some 15inch wide rubbers on the back!! Any one have any pics?

[hustlervibes]

I wanna see a 240 tubbed out with some 15inch wide rubbers on the back!! Any one have any pics?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/hustlervibes/DSC00341.jpg

[posdrift240]

http://www.pittspeed.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=40179&g2_serialNumber=2


Very nice!! Any more info on that car?

[hustlervibes]

Very nice!! Any more info on that car?

All I can remember is that is has a LSX 6.0L motor.

[posdrift240]

Awesome!! Car looks like a Beast from the rear. I can only imagine the power!! can't go wrong with a LsX motor.

[jfandem]

I just bought Work equips, and am wondering about what tire size I should run and how it would fit, and how much pull/roll I need.

98 s14, stance coilovers
18x9.5 front +8
18x10.5 rear +16

I want to run up to a 305 in rear if I can....what do you recommend? Anyone have pics of a similar setup?

[SoSideways]

265 or 275 section width, depending on the tire itself, should be square on a 9.5" wheel.

A 285, 295, and even a 305 if the tire is narrow, or a really wide 275 would fit the 10.5" wheel fine.

[cdlong]

so run 305s... the suspension clearance will be no problem on both ends. if you run the tire size and camber you want based on vehicle dynamics, you might need overfenders, at least a healthy pull.

i'd probably go for a 265/295 combo. but a 275/305 combo would work too, dependant of course on tire avalibility.

[SoSideways]

275/305 combo w/ Koguchi Power over fenders front and rear would be pretty unstoppable in terms of... pretty much any association of the word "cool".

[PoorMans180SX]

^^That's my plan for grip setup.

[Indolent]

Not exactly the maximum rubber and wheel fitment craziness, but good enough for this thread IMO

Chassis: S14
Wheels: Diamond Black Volk TE37 18x9.5 +22
Tires: Falken Azenis RT-615 (255-40-18)
Misc Details: KYB struts with Sprint? (blue) lowering springs, Fender roll/hammered (no pull), Camber was set to ideal/stock by the alignment shop with the springs/struts (IIRC no more than -1.5 degrees), Bone stock everything
Purpose of car: To be my hassle & worry free Daily Driver while trying to look nice at the same time
Pictures:
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1569/9902498/18051852/301261620.jpg
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1569/9902498/18051852/301261619.jpg
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1569/9902498/18051852/301261621.jpg

[cdlong]

Camber was set to ideal/stock by the alignment shop with the springs/struts

like everything else on the car, stock is not necessarily ideal.

sweet car anyway.

[KA-T_240]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

That kouki is hot!

[jfandem]

Well I decided to buy 245/35/18 front and 275/35/18 rears. I dont want these sticking out too much, will be on stance coilovers. How much camber will I have to run to tuck in the rear tire? Will these look ok without overfenders? Thanks

[hustlervibes]

Well I decided to buy 245/35/18 front and 275/35/18 rears. I dont want these sticking out too much, will be on stance coilovers. How much camber will I have to run to tuck in the rear tire? Will these look ok without overfenders? Thanks

Depends on the size and offset of the rims it will be on.

[1985zcar]

Is it cool to post questions up in this thread?

I got a set of 18x10 +20 BBS LMs...I have a 15mm spacer up front and right now it barely clears the coilover, but it's poking out a lot...I really dont want to go with wide fenders...anyone know/think it's possible to fit them under the stock fenders with work?

I'm planning to run a 225/40 on them up front...Help would be appreciated, thanks.

[300hp owen]

Indolent, that black kouki is siiiiiiiiiiiiick!!!!

how do you like the handling / balance on the nonStagger setup?

[300hp owen]

Is it cool to post questions up in this thread?

I got a set of 18x10 +20 BBS LMs...I have a 15mm spacer up front and right now it barely clears the coilover, but it's poking out a lot...I really dont want to go with wide fenders...anyone know/think it's possible to fit them under the stock fenders with work?

I'm planning to run a 225/40 on them up front...Help would be appreciated, thanks.this is the opposite type of thread than what you are looking for.

you can fit a 245 tire up front and a 265 tire out back with certain suspension setups and settings, without much if any fender work.

even with a roll/pull you should be able to run a 265 front and 295 rear tire (like gsracer maybe he even had a 305?)

you would have been better off IMHO with a 18x9 +20 up front but the 10's all around sure are sick.

[300hp owen]

I just bought Work equips, and am wondering about what tire size I should run and how it would fit, and how much pull/roll I need.

98 s14, stance coilovers
18x9.5 front +8
18x10.5 rear +16

I want to run up to a 305 in rear if I can....what do you recommend? Anyone have pics of a similar setup?there are not many 305 wide tires out there, do you have a specific tire make/model in mind?

you can easily find and fit a 285/30R18 as they have a super short overall outside diameter and are a somewhat common size.

with such a low offset you may be stuck running a 255 out back unless you roll/pull like crazy and also run almost too much negative camber out back

[bardabe]

Indolent, that black kouki is siiiiiiiiiiiiick!!!!

how do you like the handling / balance on the nonStagger setup?

its his stock / non abuser car. but from the times ive been in the car with him and he takes things a little fast (off ramps) and from the time i drove it, i think it handles rather well. specially since there is no other suspension mods and / or coilovers. comfy and it grips. stagered set ups form my experience kinda suck for grip driving but then again its all on driving style / application. but from the form and purpose of this car its complete over kill lol non the less a sweet fuckin daily:wackit:

[Indolent]

Indolent, that black kouki is siiiiiiiiiiiiick!!!!

how do you like the handling / balance on the nonStagger setup?

Thanks, not sure if I can answer your question too well, I've never had a staggered set up or drove one to give you a comparison, nor do I drift, autocross or push this car really since it's just my daily. But I can definitely tell you that it grips a lot better while I take turns compared to before with my 225-50-16 GTR32 wheels

[jfandem]

there are not many 305 wide tires out there, do you have a specific tire make/model in mind?

you can easily find and fit a 285/30R18 as they have a super short overall outside diameter and are a somewhat common size.

with such a low offset you may be stuck running a 255 out back unless you roll/pull like crazy and also run almost too much negative camber out back

Well I bought tires the other day. 245/35/18 front and 275/35/18 rears.

They are the Falken 452s. Think ill be able to fit this combo? Is it gonna stick out like crazy? Im having a guy roll/pull my fenders soon but still unsure of the fitament. How much rear camber will I have to run and how low can I go ? I want it pretty damn low.

[1985zcar]

Yeah I would've liked to have 9s up front, it sure would be easier...but the set was only 900 bucks so I wasn't gonna complain :) haha

[SoSideways]

Well I bought tires the other day. 245/35/18 front and 275/35/18 rears.

They are the Falken 452s. Think ill be able to fit this combo? Is it gonna stick out like crazy? Im having a guy roll/pull my fenders soon but still unsure of the fitament. How much rear camber will I have to run and how low can I go ? I want it pretty damn low.

Didn't we go over all this stuff over AIM for like an hour?

I thought I pretty much told you exactly what will happen, and told you what size tires you can go with and all that... I guess all that stuff went out the window right after you hit the "close window" button after talking to me?

[Gumballf355]

haahahah... maybe he wanted a second opinion? I love it when people don't trust what you're saying.

[Full-Lock]

gumball

do you have more pics of the blue s14?

wheel fitment looks perfect and i have similar sized wheels.

thanks!!

[a_ahmed]

Keep the thread alive :)

[McCoy]

this is for my track wheels/tires

S13

Wheels/Tires
17x9 +35 5zigens
275/40/17 RA-1's

Pictures...

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/959/medium/RA1_test_fitment_03.jpg



Small update on mine... to help keep the thread going. I spent a few hours last weekend with the Eastwood roller on the rears. I was able to give the rear fenders a small pull, just enough to clear the 275 RA-1's.

Passanger fender turned out pretty good.
http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/959/medium/Eastwood_rolling_06.jpg

I found some bondo in the drivers fender so it took a little more time to pull it without cracking any of the bondo or paint.
http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/959/medium/eastwood_rolling_05.jpg

I'll be working on the fronts today, hoping that I can pull a good 1/2" on the stock fenders.

[a_ahmed]

Good stuff bro :)

[JRas]

I love this thread :D

anyways, I am planning a setup and need some input

S14 W/Tein Coilovers
Enkei RPF1's 17x9.5 +18 ( Front and Rear )

In a non-staggered setup, what do you think are the widest tires I can fit?

255?
275? < -- my goal/dream :P

pm me answers..Thanks

[racepar1]

Small update on mine... to help keep the thread going. I spent a few hours last weekend with the Eastwood roller on the rears. I was able to give the rear fenders a small pull, just enough to clear the 275 RA-1's.

Passanger fender turned out pretty good.
http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/959/medium/Eastwood_rolling_06.jpg

I found some bondo in the drivers fender so it took a little more time to pull it without cracking any of the bondo or paint.
http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/959/medium/eastwood_rolling_05.jpg

I'll be working on the fronts today, hoping that I can pull a good 1/2" on the stock fenders.


Thank you my friend! I will be running 275/40/17 NT01's on my zigen's for sure now, although I need more power to push those giant fucking tires. 17x9 +20 FN01R-C's with 255/40/17 Azenis. Rolled/pulled fenders (duh)!
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj283/racepar1/bigwillow002.jpg

[gotta240]

'Bout time the s chassis bitches steped up on the tire sizes. I swear it was only 6 months ago everyone was pointing, lauging, and calling names when i mentioned anything above a 245 width tire. (well, except acinhole and maybe 2 others).

Anyhooo. Pics soon.

[racepar1]

It's funny how everyone assumes that since you are running wide tires they are all "ballooned". My 255's are fucking bricks on my 9" wheels, no balloon at all!

[a_ahmed]

Well its just the brainwashing jdm tyte y0 trend and fad of running skimpy hoe tires on wide wheels and dorifto coolness that dazzled everyone's eyes and brains to not run wide rubber :P And then... its like... everyone thinks s chassis cars can't grip and are 'drift only' lol.. when in fact our cars can be as competitive and superior to the likes of m3s and such... same suspension tuning crap, give it power and voila...

Thanks for keeping my thread alive... :) I want a revolution :D Well in the start I got neg reps for this thread and the precursor to this thread lmao but the first thread i sooort of deserved it as i showed skimpy hoe stretched tires that look ugly vs j-rho/ace in the hole/other's wide rubber setups and the skimpy hoe stretch tire crew got mad hehe it became a shitfest... none the less i think its still ugly, useless and waste the skimpy hoe stretch tire threads... its just AARGH... so wrong... ah well to each his own. That's why we have this thread and the stretch crew has theirs hehe.

[SoSideways]

It's funny how everyone assumes that since you are running wide tires they are all "ballooned". My 255's are fucking bricks on my 9" wheels, no balloon at all!

255s should be perfect.

If the particular tire that you are running is "narrow", you can even fit a 265 on there with no problem. 275 if the tire is REALLY narrow, but a normal 275 will start to bulge a little bit on a 9" rim.

Again, remember guys, most rims' advertised width is actually the width from 1 beading surface to the other, not from "lip to lip". From lip to lip, the rim is usually another inch wider than the advertised width.

So a rim is advertised at 9" wide. That's from the outer bead surface to the inner bead surface. From the outside lip to the inside lip, the rim is most likely to measure 10" wide, and 10" x 25.4mm/1" = 254mm, so a 255 section width rim should be just perfect on a 9" rim.

[89fastback]

Car: S13 Hatch
Rims 17x9 +20 5-zigen
Tires(RT615: F 235/40/17
R 275/40/17
Misc. Front Stock
Rear roll and slight pull -1.75 deg. camber
Lowered just over 3 inches

PICS
Front:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2165000-2165999/2165252_141_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2165000-2165999/2165252_142_full.jpg

Rear with 255 unaligned:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2165000-2165999/2165252_143_full.jpg

Rear with 275:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2165000-2165999/2165252_186_full.jpg

With my other toys: 15x8 4.5 inch backspacing 26x10 MT ET DRAGS
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2165000-2165999/2165252_184_full.jpg

the 255's are massive i got 215's streched to the same wheels

[McRussellPants]

'Bout time the s chassis bitches steped up on the tire sizes. I swear it was only 6 months ago everyone was pointing, lauging, and calling names when i mentioned anything above a 245 width tire. (well, except acinhole and maybe 2 others).

No, people were laughing at you because you were doing so with a 27in+ rolling diameter.

245 isn't wide.

That black Kouki with the TEs is pretty slick

[wayneside]

YOUR CHASSIS: s14

WHEELS: JLine 6RL3 19x9.5 / 19x10.5

TIRES: Dunlop Direzza DZ 101 245/35/19 / 275/30/19

MISC DETAILS: sr20det w/minor upgrades

PURPOSE OF CAR: street/daily driver

PICTURES:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a21/Calric16n/August2007022.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a21/Calric16n/August2007018.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a21/Calric16n/August2007020.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a21/Calric16n/August2007023.jpg

Got new wheels with the same sizes - gunmetal Volk Racing GT-V's. Post pics of that set up later.

[SoSideways]

^ That's not really that "maximum"....

[McCoy]

Thank you my friend! I will be running 275/40/17 NT01's on my zigen's for sure now, although I need more power to push those giant fucking tires.
Sorry, I missed your comment... I was wanting NT01's, but couldn't pass on the wheels/tires when I saw them posted on FA.com a while back.



My last update for pictures. I used the Eastwood roller just to see how much I could pull the fronts without ruining the fenders, it wasn't much but I think this will do for now. This is a 275 RA-1 on 17x9 +35 5zigens with no spacers...

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/959/medium/Eastwood_front_03.jpg

[wayneside]

^ That's not really that "maximum"....

i didnt see anyone put 19's...sorry its not too crazy! :w00t:

[gotta240]

No, people were laughing at you because you were doing so with a 27in+ rolling diameter.

245 isn't wide.

That black Kouki with the TEs is pretty slick


Lol. Although you have good memory, that ISN'T what i was talking about at all(i may have deserved it THAT time). I was refereing to other posts in which people said my 255/35/18 and 275/35/18 is overkill, unnecessary, stupid, and only hides bad driving Or the many posts that said "dude, 225/235 stagger is plenty wide for any s14", along with the multiple "Your ka will never spin those, why use them?".

[gsracer]

Havent posted in this thread in a while

Here you go



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5949.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5914.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5930.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5925.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5945.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_5821.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/wiring-cage/IMG_6012.jpg

[wayneside]

holy shiet...thats madNISS!

[a_ahmed]

frickin wow x2 lol +1 rep maan... keep the thread alliiive hottt

[240 OR DIE]

YOUR CHASSIS: s14

WHEELS: fn's 17x9 +15 fr/ 17x10 +25 rear

TIRES: 255/40-17 kumho victoracers front/ 275/40-17 hoosier r6

MISC DETAILS: ka-t... I say around 280 hp @ 10psi on gt32. Also I had to bend the inner lip in the front, and a slight pull in the rear. Im running around -3.5* of camber up front, and about -2.8* in the rear. With a 5mm spacer up front I can run the 17x10s and a 275 all around, I think this will be my next step.....+ sways Im still rockin stocks

PURPOSE OF CAR: street/autox/ some track

PICTURES:
http://img2.putfile.com/main/2/4221575477.jpg

http://img2.putfile.com/main/2/4221575580.jpg

http://img2.putfile.com/main/2/4221575432.jpg

http://img2.putfile.com/main/2/4221575215.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e96/TurboGTI03/1-13-08autox/11308autox242.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc96/smrfotos/delta20.jpg

[gotta240]

[quote=240 OR DIE;1860852

. Im running around -3.5* of camber up front, and about -2.8* in the rear. With a 5mm spacer up front I can run the 17x10s and a 275 all around, I think this will be my next step.....+ sways Im still rockin stocks

[/quote]

Dont you think your camber is a little excessive? Maybe your tires are just stickier than mine, but with track driving(at the limit) i get fairly even wear with camber nearly a full degree less in front and back. Hows your wear?

[cdlong]

it depends what your goals are, low wear or high cornering grip. since he's running r compound race tires, i'd say the latter.

[240 OR DIE]

I get great grip in a straightline right now, and its fantastic in a corner, what I need to work on is wieght transfer. I think some sways and stiffen her up a tad more and shell be even faster. And the car absolutley loves a ton of camber up front, turn in is great....I jsut need some new tires , mine are corded

[240 OR DIE]

Dont you think your camber is a little excessive? Maybe your tires are just stickier than mine, but with track driving(at the limit) i get fairly even wear with camber nearly a full degree less in front and back. Hows your wear?



Also camber doesnt cause tire wear, toe does.....at least thats what my buddy who has worked a tire shop forever tells me

[spool_sample]

Dont you think your camber is a little excessive?

Race tires like camber, especially in tight auto-x situations, so -3.5 in the front sounds right.

[LS240]

Thanks for keeping my thread alive... :) I want a revolution :D Well in the start I got neg reps for this thread and the precursor to this thread lmao but the first thread i sooort of deserved it as i showed skimpy hoe stretched tires that look ugly vs j-rho/ace in the hole/other's wide rubber setups and the skimpy hoe stretch tire crew got mad hehe it became a shitfest... none the less i think its still ugly, useless and waste the skimpy hoe stretch tire threads... its just AARGH... so wrong... ah well to each his own. That's why we have this thread and the stretch crew has theirs hehe.

Haha QFT! Just check my sig. I absolutely detest stretching.

Anyways...Not sure if this would be the best place to ask as this thread was intended for people that actually have wide-tire 240s, but...

I may be absolutely insane for even thinking this, but with proper offset and spacing to maximize backspace clearance(with coilovers, most likely Tein), what would I have to do to fit 335s in the rear and maybe 265-275s up front on an S14? Despite the fact that one car in this thread is running 305s on stock fender with apparently no rubbing, I highly doubt that I could fit something that big with just a pull. So I'm thinking overfenders. Am I gonna need 30mm, 50mm, or possibly even 70mm? The thing is I want to keep stock Kouki front bumper and go with stock JDM sideskirts and rear bumper, so I want an overfender+bolt-on front combo that will allow that extra width without the need for full aero.

Is this possible, or am I just :loco: for thinking of trying something that big?

[SoSideways]

^ Follow the path of gsracer?

[a_ahmed]

well 275 up front is no issue what so ever on an s14, easy peasy, however the rear well.. if he fit 305s in the rear and had stock fenders... i guess to fit 335s you would need say... 30mm fenders? lol get it haha? 335-305 = 30mm lol :D

[Flybert]

well 275 up front is no issue what so ever on an s14, easy peasy, however the rear well.. if he fit 305s in the rear and had stock fenders... i guess to fit 335s you would need say... 30mm fenders? lol get it haha? 335-305 = 30mm lol :D

Except half that width is on the inside so you'd be wrong. It would be 15mm fenders.

[a_ahmed]

LOL! That's true, got me there haha... i just came home. well technically if the inside was the same (lower offset wheel) then the outside could be made 30mm wider :P

[hustlervibes]

Except half that width is on the inside so you'd be wrong. It would be 15mm fenders.

He probably had no space on the inside to fit 305 on stock fenders.

[jobestudios]

Hey, so I plan on doing a little bit of everything, I have

Fronts
17x9.5 +15
30mm Wide front fenders
Tein Tie Rod spacers

Can I fit a 255/40/17 RT615 Azenis at full lock without frame rail rubbing? I'm already tubbed and hammered, the frame rail/tension rod is the only questionable parts. The tein tie rod spacers add quite a bit of angle.

I'll be using a 275/40/17 Azenis on the rear as well.

[SoSideways]

If it touches, then perhaps just run a spacer or lower offset wheels?

[gsracer]

Guys these are my specs on a stock body with just pulls no body work at all ever performed


Front
18 by 10 + 18

I have ran 265/35/18 and 275/35/18 . Had to hammer the fronts tubs in so they wouldnt rub against the frame, plus i had to pull the front fenders about 10mm. I did one good and the other i messed up cause i was in a hurry. i can go lock to lock even with tein tie rod extenders .



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Drift%20day/my%20car/IMG_4713.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Drift%20day/my%20car/IMG_4713.jpg





Here you can see the one i messed up


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/drift%20sessions%20oct%2014/IMG_5118.jpg





Rears 18 by 11 + 18

Pulled about 30 + mm in total on stock quarters with no paint work.

I ran 285's for a while, the put 295s on and they rubbed so pulled some more then i was able to fit 315 azenis.


Here you can see the 295s rubbing before i pulled some more




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Drift%20day/my%20car/IMG_4559.jpg


After i pulled they didnt rub any more


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/drift%20sessions%20oct%2014/IMG_6598.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/drift%20sessions%20oct%2014/IMG_6562.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/drift%20sessions%20oct%2014/picture242copyjr3.jpg





Heres 315's on the stock body would rub from time to time which is ultimatly why i went wide body. plus they stuck out so much it was looking border line rediculous



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/new%20hotness/IMG_5479.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/new%20hotness/IMG_5461.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/new%20hotness/IMG_5469.jpg




295 vs 315 12.4 inch sectional width


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/new%20hotness/IMG_5451.jpg



Front coilover clearance on tein coils 18by 10 +18 with 265 tire . Rear coilover clearance is about an inch. no pic unfortunatly of the rear.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/WORK%20S1/IMG_0212.jpg




Heres some other fitmets

Rear i forged

20 by 11 +20 305/25/20


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_2919.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_2915.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_2925.jpg





Front te37 19 by 10.5 + 12 285/30/19


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/The%2014/IMG_5315.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/The%2014/IMG_5302.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/The%2014/IMG_5300.jpg







I got tons more of pics of all kinds of crazy wheels and tires but i think that gives everyone a good idea of what can and cant be fit. Enjoy





http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/WORK%20S1/DSC_04981.jpg

[LS240]

Except half that width is on the inside so you'd be wrong. It would be 15mm fenders.

Well actually assuming both setups maximizing backspace, the difference would be +30 on the outside.

Thanks for the help, especially you gsracer. Those pics give me a pretty good idea. Few questions though: Do you have any rubbing problems with the 285 tires in front? Also, I'm sure tires that wide in front have to increase the scrub radius, does that produce a noticeable increase in steering kickback or effort or any other negative handling effects?

Thanks.
-Layne

[gsracer]

Yea the 285s would have rubbed quite a bit especially in the 19 inch size, forgot to mention that. Not practical at all. 265 in an azenis type tire is all the size an s chassis needs. Steering is definitly heavy and required a cooler to avoid boiling over.

[LS240]

Noted, don't go past 265 front. I kinda figured the 285s wouldn't work. By the pictures it just didn't look right.

The only reason I wanna go with such wide tires in the first place is to put the power down effectively. As you might be able to tell from my screen name I'm doing an LS1 swap. At first it'll be pretty much stock, with just exhaust and intake, then I'll go with heads, cams and intake manifold, then eventually turbocharged, so obviously I'm gonna need some rubber to put down all that power and torque. I know I don't need 335s, but the bigger the better.

If something's worth doing, it's worth going overboard haha.

Thanks for all the help.
-Layne

[kingkilburn]

I don't think any body will mind if you post more border line ridiculous pics gsracer.

[JRas]

Front coilover clearance on tein coils 18by 10 +18 with 265 tire . Rear coilover clearance is about an inch. no pic unfortunatly of the rear.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/WORK%20S1/IMG_0212.jpg


nice, we need more pictures like this

looks like 17x9.5 +18 with 275's should be okay :x:

Which tein coilovers are these?

[a_ahmed]

aceinthehole runs 285/30/18 up front its actually a shorter tire than a 275/40/17 (actually by alot) and a 275/40/17 can be fitted on an s14 front easily

[gsracer]

Which tein coilovers are these?


Tein super drift

[300hp owen]

I know I don't need 335s, but the bigger the better.

If something's worth doing, it's worth going overboard haha.

Thanks for all the help.
-Layne I have an LS1FC and I would say you are by far just fine with a 265 front and 285 rear as long as you go with a high quality tire and you can fit those widths under stock S14 bodywork if you run wheels with deep enough offsets to keep them close to the suspension. if you can, run an 18" wheel so you can get some of the short O.D. tires like the 285/30R18 that is wide but short so you have more space to work with compared to some of the taller O.D. tires out there. 18x9.5 front and 18x10.5 rear is pretty damn nice for an S14.

GSracer you have run some wide setups, wow! I love those pics, I hope to snag another S14 so I can LS1 it and run a wide tire setup... I'm surprised you ran such a low offset in the rear, you could have fit even more tire under those rolled/pulled fenders (like a 315) had you ran a +30 offset, right?

[gsracer]

Some of those pics are of 315's under pulled fenders.

[LS240]

I have an LS1FC and I would say you are by far just fine with a 265 front and 285 rear as long as you go with a high quality tire and you can fit those widths under stock S14 bodywork if you run wheels with deep enough offsets to keep them close to the suspension. if you can, run an 18" wheel so you can get some of the short O.D. tires like the 285/30R18 that is wide but short so you have more space to work with compared to some of the taller O.D. tires out there. 18x9.5 front and 18x10.5 rear is pretty damn nice for an S14.

Thanks. It's good to have some first-hand info from somebody with an LS1-equipped car. I'm thinking 265/35R18 front, 295/35R18 rear BFGoodrich KDW2 tires on Volk RE30s sized 18x9.5+15f and 18x10.5+18r, or Nismo LMGT4s sized 18x9.5+12f and 18x10.5+15r, both Bronze in color. Leaning heavily towards the RE30s.

Owen, you have any pictures of your LS1FC? I don't think people would mind an FC sneaking into this thread if it helps keep it going, as long as it's maximum-fitment caliber.

Thanks.
-Layne

[a_ahmed]

285/35/18 can be done as well for better size fitment, it is a shorter tire than a 265/30/18 :)

[gsracer]

I have some pictures of re30's on my car in those exact wheel and tire sizes. I'll post them up when I get home.

Also I can tell you with my 280/280 whp wtq v8 I can spin the 295's and 315's easily from a roll in first and even second gear on throttle only.

[a_ahmed]

^lol damn... and thats with a nissan v8 right? Not ls1? Yikes.. Plus its an s14 which is heavier than fc if im not mistaken... weirdness... maybe the compound sucks?

[gsracer]

My car is right around 2600 lbs with the cage.

[gotta240]

YOUR CHASSIS: S14

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/tdi520/240sx/135.jpg

Most people don't even notice the tires because of how clean the widebody is... with higher offset I could stuff some 335s back there.


Did you mold the fenders to the car? If so, what method? Rivets/bondo or what?

[axiomatik]

285/35/18 can be done as well for better size fitment, it is a shorter tire than a 265/30/18 :)

a 285/35 is not shorter than a 265/30.

[300hp owen]

Thanks. It's good to have some first-hand info from somebody with an LS1-equipped car. I'm thinking 265/35R18 front, 295/35R18 rear BFGoodrich KDW2 tires on Volk RE30s sized 18x9.5+15f and 18x10.5+18r, or Nismo LMGT4s sized 18x9.5+12f and 18x10.5+15r, both Bronze in color. Leaning heavily towards the RE30s.

Owen, you have any pictures of your LS1FC? I don't think people would mind an FC sneaking into this thread if it helps keep it going, as long as it's maximum-fitment caliber.

Thanks.
-LayneI would think you'd want to fit a lower offset out back to give you the chance at running as wide a tire as possible... unless youre gonna push a 335 wide and run some 50mm rear overfenders. I have seen 17x10 +40 offset fit a 275 out back on a stock bodied S14 so there is a ton of room inboard, dont let it go to waste, use it to your benefit and run a 315 on a +35 to +25 offset or whatever you'd need, I think the +15 is kinda lame as it requires a lot more work and time to fit it well (clearance).

yeah I have a shit-ton of pics of my LS1FC, here are some with the 295/30r18 rears and 285/30r18 fronts on 18x10s all around and some widebody activities :) I love these tires and the sizes, theyre barely 25" tall so there is plenty of room for clearance and the car can be run very low as well, so much better than when I had 285r/275f in 17" kumho MXs those were some damn tall tires.

I think with a 265/35 and then a 285/30 or 295/30 you would be rockin!

http://web.mac.com/owen_the_soyboy/iWeb/Site/fc3s%20ssr%20sp1.html (http://web.mac.com/owen_the_soyboy/iWeb/Site/fc3s%20ssr%20sp1.html)
and
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2273797

http://web.mac.com/owen_the_soyboy/iWeb/Site/fc3s%20ssr%20sp1_files/100_0112.jpg
http://web.mac.com/owen_the_soyboy/iWeb/Site/fc3s%20ssr%20sp1_files/100_0120.jpg

[gsracer]

I be been thinking of getting some 18 by 12.5 +40 so I can "stretch" some 315's on there LOL then people would shut up ha ha.

[atutt]

^Please don't ruin your sexy machine by doing that :( lol.

[a_ahmed]

a 285/35 is not shorter than a 265/30.


That was meant to say 265/35/18 and 285/30/18 not other way around i had long day lol...

[gsracer]

carbon black volk re30s in 18x9.5+15f and 18x10.5+18r 265/295 kumho mx
looked a bit to sunk imho


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Jason/IMG_0186.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Jason/IMG_0185.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Jason/IMG_0184.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Jason/IMG_0181.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Jason/IMG_0179.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Jason/IMG_0178.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Jason/IMG_0177.jpg

[SoSideways]

^ I was gonna get those, but decided against it... Think the RPF1s actually look better...

[punch]

carbon black volk re30s in 18x9.5+15f and 18x10.5+18r 265/295 kumho mx
looked a bit to sunk imho


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Jason/IMG_0186.jpg

It looks sunken in because you did a pretty good pull. With virgin quarters it will fit the wheel fine with a slight pull/roll?

[a_ahmed]

wow those are frickin hot.. amazing.

Do rpf1s come in black i wonder if anyone has them in that sort of black?

[gsracer]

It looks sunken in because you did a pretty good pull. With virgin quarters it will fit the wheel fine with a slight pull/roll?

The man arrives post pics of your hotness. Im sure yours will blow people away as you have an s13 so its much more hardcore...... biatch

[spool_sample]

Well, gsracer just owned everyone in this thread.

I yield. :p

[punch]

The man arrives post pics of your hotness. Im sure yours will blow people away as you have an s13 so its much more hardcore...... biatch
Ha ha...soon. I just need to go to the shop to take pics.

[DarkPhoenix]

So much rubber!!! Makes me think I am on the set on one of those 400 guy gangbangs!!

This is making me happy to know that I am not the only guy who wants wide rubber under their fenders.

Gives me inspisration.

[a_ahmed]

lol welcome :) My intention with this thread was to attract like-minded individuals :) Extreme stretching is the new rice hehe.

[300hp owen]

fugging A those carbon black RE30s are sick!
just sick.

yeah I think it looks a little sunken only because your car is so low, so it has mad neg. camber and the fenders are rolled/pulled a ton. on stock fenders it would be pretty sick.

lovely wheel / tire combo I must say, wow.

yes please do a 12.5 wide setup with a 315 on it, that would be awesome.

[bigblak06]

15x10 -38 offset

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/bigblak06/1-1.jpg

[a_ahmed]

^wtf is that? No rubber!

[dogg4217]

I have the same type of wheels for my JEEP WRANGLER :loco:

[godzillarb]

Did you mold the fenders to the car? If so, what method? Rivets/bondo or what?

I had a body shop do it, they riveted the fenders on then fiberglassed them in.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/tdi520/19july06x008.jpg

[axiomatik]

I have the same type of wheels for my JEEP WRANGLER :loco:

wouldn't be surprising. Cherokees at least are 5x114.3.

[Z33dori]

15x10 -38 offset

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/bigblak06/1-1.jpg


wtf those look like 19s

[raen419]

I'm betting its just perspective.
You can see the wheels on the car through the center of the Jeep-looking wheel. That 15" is probably a lot closer to the camera than the car is.

[sliksta1]

those are off road wheels fo sho.

[300hp owen]

minus 38 offset?!??!?!


ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... hmm.

[bigblak06]

nope there 15s

[kclo4]

I am looking at getting a set of the cheapo MB Weapons in 17X9 +27 or +17 for my S14 but am not sure if the +27 will clear the KTS coilovers on the inside. Brady from AZ has the +17 it seems but I can't tell what kind of work was done on the fenders to fit the 275/40/17's on there. I am trying to stay away from pulling the fenders but I would not mind doing a roll.

So will the 17X9 +27 with 275/40/17's (probably nitto NT-01) clear everything on the inside, and how much work on the fenders is needed to have the same tire clear on the outside with +17 offset?

[240trainee]

no, not with those tires. no chance in hell. might have issues even with the +17

[KA-T_240]

I am looking at getting a set of the cheapo MB Weapons in 17X9 +27 or +17 for my S14 but am not sure if the +27 will clear the KTS coilovers on the inside. Brady from AZ has the +17 it seems but I can't tell what kind of work was done on the fenders to fit the 275/40/17's on there. I am trying to stay away from pulling the fenders but I would not mind doing a roll.

So will the 17X9 +27 with 275/40/17's (probably nitto NT-01) clear everything on the inside, and how much work on the fenders is needed to have the same tire clear on the outside with +17 offset?

They will fit. I have 275/40 on a x9 +20 with not much of a fender roll. and I have over an inch before my coilover(stance)

Here is a pic of it.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2165000-2165999/2165252_189_full.jpg

[kclo4]

Brady runs those 275/40/17's on the 17X9 +17's, looks like thats what I will have to do. I can get 245 or 255 wide for now and play with the body to fit 275's later I guess.

The car is lowered but not slammed or anything. Running about -3 degrees camber front and -2.5 in the rear.

[240trainee]

KA-T 240, that does not look like a 275/40 on your front, but thats just me

[a_ahmed]

I am looking at getting a set of the cheapo MB Weapons in 17X9 +27 or +17 for my S14 but am not sure if the +27 will clear the KTS coilovers on the inside. Brady from AZ has the +17 it seems but I can't tell what kind of work was done on the fenders to fit the 275/40/17's on there. I am trying to stay away from pulling the fenders but I would not mind doing a roll.

So will the 17X9 +27 with 275/40/17's (probably nitto NT-01) clear everything on the inside, and how much work on the fenders is needed to have the same tire clear on the outside with +17 offset?

Now that you mention it the mb motoring 17x9 +17 rims are what weight, I was googling it up and 28lbs came up wtf?! Is that true? I mean they are 500$ for all four (descent price) but 28lbs? true or not?