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WhiteNissanS13
09-25-2002, 08:22 PM
just wondering if its possible for a vg30dett to go into a s13
AKADriver
09-25-2002, 09:45 PM
Not unless you feel like doing a lot of cutting... hell, it barely fits in a 300ZX as it is...
If you want an insane engine swap, an RB-series engine or an American V8 makes a lot more sense.
SilviaDriver
09-25-2002, 09:52 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WhiteNissanS13 @ Sep. 25 2002,9:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">just wondering if its possible for a vg30dett to go into a s13</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
no way man. the RB26 bearly fits in the S14s becuz of the twin turbo is hitting the steering column. to me it is IMPOSSIBLE to make the 3.0L fit into our cars, the RB26 is problems already and its a 2.6L. it Seems impossible, but with money u can do it.
gschroeder78
09-25-2002, 10:54 PM
I believe even with money you can't really do it. I mean you can make it fit but from what I've heard it sits up about 3 inches above where your hood sits so you'd have to modify the hood. I just don't see how you could raise your hood level without it looking bad.
On a side note, I just pulled my VG30DE today and for the hell of it hung it next to my S13 just to compare. The thing is huge and looks like it would tip the 240 onto it's nose. Probably not but I'd love to see someone pull off that swap.
Ni5mo180SX
09-25-2002, 11:47 PM
Yea its a pretty awesome setup. Ive seen it done in an S13. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>
uuninja
09-26-2002, 09:49 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SilviaDriver @ Sep. 24 2002,11:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WhiteNissanS13 @ Sep. 25 2002,9:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">just wondering if its possible for a vg30dett to go into a s13</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
no way man. the RB26 bearly fits in the S14s becuz of the twin turbo is hitting the steering column. to me it is IMPOSSIBLE to make the 3.0L fit into our cars, the RB26 is problems already and its a 2.6L. it Seems impossible, but with money u can do it.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
WOW you are way off track. The Displace ment has nothing to do with fit. The RB26 is an inline 6 the VG is a V6 totally different block designs. The fittment issues are totally different.
As far as wether it will fit or not. I don't think any one here knows for sure. The VG30et has been done as has the VH45DE (q45 motor). I am pretty sure that the VG30dett could work. It may need new exhaust manifolds to clear the strut towers as dose the VH. I admit that would be a challange to relocate the turbos and redesign the manifolds, but not impossible.
Saying it bearly fits in the Z so it won't fit in the S chassis is pure conjecture. Unless you have measured the motor and measured the space between the strut towers, you can't be sure.
rockout
09-26-2002, 01:38 PM
Not that my answer is of much help, but plenty of people over at www.freshalloy.com are trying to swap VG series engines into their s chasis cars. Mainly looks to be the VG30ET's.
Ni5mo180SX
09-26-2002, 01:52 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uuninja @ Sep. 25 2002,11:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SilviaDriver @ Sep. 24 2002,11:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WhiteNissanS13 @ Sep. 25 2002,9:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">just wondering if its possible for a vg30dett to go into a s13</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
no way man. the RB26 bearly fits in the S14s becuz of the twin turbo is hitting the steering column. to me it is IMPOSSIBLE to make the 3.0L fit into our cars, the RB26 is problems already and its a 2.6L. it Seems impossible, but with money u can do it.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
As far as wether it will fit or not. I don't think any one here knows for sure. The VG30et has been done as has the VH45DE (q45 motor). I am pretty sure that the VG30dett could work. It may need new exhaust manifolds to clear the strut towers as dose the VH. I admit that would be a challange to relocate the turbos and redesign the manifolds, but not impossible.
Saying it bearly fits in the Z so it won't fit in the S chassis is pure conjecture. Unless you have measured the motor and measured the space between the strut towers, you can't be sure.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ok.....ive already seen it done
240sxtreme
09-26-2002, 01:56 PM
the older VG's are doable...as those old 30ET's are smaller then the newer DETT's....I've seen the pic of the guy on freshalloy's engine...and it's pretty small...compared to a VG30DE that I've looked at.
also, I'm don't remember, but is the old VG30ET a v6? or I6?
because you'll also have to take into consideration the dual exhaust(don't lower your car too much)..or somehow bring them into single...just something to think about
I wouldn't say it "can't" be done....but you really need to consider what you're trying to do...what the goals are. In my opinion, besides originality...there really is no reason to do this swap.
whateverjames
09-26-2002, 05:40 PM
VG30ET is a V6
uuninja
09-27-2002, 12:54 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ni5mo180SX @ Sep. 25 2002,3:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ok.....ive already seen it done</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
And...? You have seen what done? The motor measured? The vg30dett swapped? The whloe thing go to shit? What?
Post something of value or don't post at all.
Loren
09-27-2002, 01:30 PM
Z32 Engine Bay (http://www.leadleader.com/cars/wagz/my_eng_full.jpg)... Why would you want to take and put an engine like that in a Silvia... Sans the the n2o, the blowoff valves, strut tower bar, and dressup, thats what a stock Z32TT engine bay looks like.. Z's have such a problem with the tight fit that the bay heats up, and they have all sorts of cooling problems, the heat eats up the belts, blah, blah... if you still want to attempt to put that engine into a s chasis, you either have way more balls than me... or are way stupid and have way more balls than me.
ca18guy
09-27-2002, 06:05 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uuninja @ Sep. 28 2002,07:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ni5mo180SX @ Sep. 25 2002,3:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ok.....ive already seen it done</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
And...? You have seen what done? The motor measured? The vg30dett swapped? The whloe thing go to shit? What?
Post something of value or don't post at all.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
There was a shop that did the swap, they were gonna offer the swap but felt there was lack of interest (the cost was out there) If anyone does a search for it they would find pics of a vg30dett in a s13, iirc they did'nt need to change the manifolds.
there was a site with a yellow 240 with the VG30DETT in it. it had a few clips of the car in motion and some times, i havent seen it in a long time but it is out there.
it could no doubt be done, but it is very impractical what with the sr being cheaper and having similar power potential.
whateverjames
09-27-2002, 08:57 PM
i remember the website you guys are talking about. the quarter mile time was supposedly 12.00 with the stock engine. personally i don't believe it because i don't think having a 300 horsepower Z engine in a car that weighs 2700 lbs is going to result in 12's. and it was 12.00 exactly, with no trap speed and no time slip <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>
ca18guy
09-27-2002, 09:01 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bing @ Sep. 28 2002,3:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it could no doubt be done, but it is very impractical what with the sr being cheaper and having similar power potential.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You can get a ton more HP easier and more reliable out of a VG30dett then a SR20det, not to mention the torque advantage <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
gschroeder78
09-27-2002, 11:04 PM
I don't know of any overheating problems. Also ca18guy is right, you can mod a TT to 600hp fairly easily. So I wouldn't say that you get similar power potential out of an SR. That said, they are 2 different cars and engines and I would like to see one put into a 240 but don't think it would look cheesy. Just doen't seem to suit the 240sx style.
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