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HyBriDThoErY
09-25-2002, 09:52 AM
Hello all, I am new here. I am planning on purchasing a 1998 240sx. I need your guy's help on my purchase of the 240sx. What would you guys suggest for me. I had a 2000 Toyota Celica GT-S 6sp, but totalled it a month ago <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> . What model would you suggest, and what would a good price be for one? Also how much would an s15 front end conversion be? Thanks in advance.
Tommy
tnord
09-25-2002, 10:55 AM
oH bOy, AnOtHeR oNe Of ThEsE gUyS <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>
my advice.......buy my 98 for 16 grand, it's a great deal <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'>
AKADriver
09-25-2002, 11:23 AM
Why would you do an S15 front end conversion to a '97-'98? I really don't understand some people... you know people spend hundreds if not thousands to make their '95-'96 look like a '97-'98... I can't say I agree (I *like* the zenki, it flows better), but with the later cars being so rare to begin with.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'>
Just get a '95-'96...
If your planning on doing an S-15 conversion you might as well buy a 95-96 240 and do your S15 conversion and have money left over for performance and suspension upgrades
Kreator
09-25-2002, 12:45 PM
u might as well buy another celica or a civic....
SilviaDriver
09-25-2002, 02:08 PM
ive noticed lately recent newibes have their SN LiKe DiS n ShIeT.
how old are u? u seem young, cuz u TyPe LikE dIs. aNd If YoUr YoUnG dId u BuY Da GTS YouRselF? mom and dad probably bought it, and its already been busted up..i dunno wat u were doin, but im guessing it has to do with speed, spinning out, and crashing into something or somebody crashing into u.
if your gonna buy a 97-98 plz dont do the s15 conversion. that is a total waste of money and if u Cant appreciate the beauty of the S14a headlights, dont buy it at ALL!
Kreator: </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> u might as well buy another celica or a civic....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i totally agree wiht you.
and PS. wat is up wiht newbies saying something like..they wanna get s14a and then do s15 convesions...i remember many of them asking that. sorry to an ass, it juss annoys me that people wanna do a s15 on s14a
thelinja
09-25-2002, 05:14 PM
Personally I like my 95 front. It's unique and you don't see too many of them. I guess that's just me. AKA's got a point though if you're looking to buy an S14 model and make an S15. You can spend the extra 8-10 grand on a 98, or just spend about 5-6 grand on a 95.
whateverjames
09-25-2002, 05:22 PM
good job guys. i'm sure he feels welcome now <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>
BadMoJo
09-25-2002, 07:41 PM
Yeah, damn. Seems like they rip the newbs to pieces before they get a chance to respond these days...
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>
HyBriDThoErY
09-25-2002, 09:55 PM
Well.... Thanks for the welcome guys! I am a total newb to the 240sx. I don't know what the hell I am doing so that is why I registered for this forum. Is everyone always an ass on these boards? Oh well. By the way I am 21 years old, and had my Celica for 3 years. Unfortunately I wrecked it on a one lane hwy. I am looking into the 98' 240sx but I take it that I might as well get a 95? No, I think i'll just get another Celica.
Thanks for the welcome and lates too all. You guys really are bad!!!
Tommy
PS: I might come back to these boards, but I guess everyone are just asses on it. I'll be checking back, but if you guys are the same, so be it. Later beeotches!!! LOL!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>
BEISSEN
09-26-2002, 10:35 AM
If you want a 240SX get one trust me it is a great car.But if you are planning to do a s15 front go for a 95-96 instead cus the 97-98 have a very sweet but unique look to them already.The straberry face look is real nice but the 97-98's are a very rare car as it is.So you can choose yourself.
Thurazor
09-26-2002, 11:10 AM
Welcome to the forum. It's your car and I definately know the route you're going. My car has so many different parts from other year 3000GT's and Stealths that it's not even funny. Just do what you like the best. Dont' worry about half the people on this forum. They have their panties in a bundle and start shitting bricks about "newbs" and "rice". Once you get past the thick cloud of ignorance the forum isn't too bad <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>
Way to go guys! Keep those satisfied first-time 240 owners coming! lol pathetic
tnord
09-26-2002, 11:26 AM
oh no.....we lost a member that doesn't have a 240, nor does he self admittantly know anything about the car.........what a horrible horrible loss........... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>
guidot
09-26-2002, 05:41 PM
LOL @ tnord!
I like the style of this guy. He nonchalantly came in, said his piece and left. Thats my kind of newbie.
240sxtreme
09-26-2002, 06:03 PM
hey man, don't be threatened by these guys. welcome to the board. But listen to the advise on the models...it's the same car, minus the headlights...and if you're going to switch anyways...get the cheaper model.
Silviaspeed
09-26-2002, 06:41 PM
Man what a bunch of d!cks. Listen hybrid if your still interested in the 240 check out <a href="http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.net/" target='_blank'>http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.net/</a>
I seriously can not believe the arrogance on this board! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cry:'> You ppl seem to forget that you were once interested in the 240 yourselves, and needed some guidance. So what if he wants the S15 front, let him get what he wants.
whateverjames
09-26-2002, 06:48 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ Sep. 26 2002,12:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">oh no.....we lost a member that doesn't have a 240, nor does he self admittantly know anything about the car.........what a horrible horrible loss........... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
still not a valid reason for some of you to act that way.
NismoGear5
09-26-2002, 09:58 PM
some of you guys need to get a grip..
you guys don't have to be so mean.. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>
I thought it(this forum) was all about helping each other out and not making strangers feel like.... well strangers. Some of you have waaaaay to much time to be acting like that.. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>
AceInHole
09-26-2002, 10:57 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Silviaspeed @ Sep. 25 2002,8:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Man what a bunch of d!cks. Listen hybrid if your still interested in the 240 check out http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.net/</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
lol.... hey TNord... remember those days??
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I seriously can not believe the arrogance on this board! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cry:'> You ppl seem to forget that you were once interested in the 240 yourselves, and needed some guidance. So what if he wants the S15 front, let him get what he wants.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yes, everyone was a newbie at one point. some newbies, however, were smart enough to attempt to do at least a miniscule amount of research into the car they were buying before hopping on a specific car forum asking others to do their work for them.
SimpleS14
09-26-2002, 11:03 PM
My suggest is get the 98....and sell the front end to me for $1200 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> .....j/k
Seriously, by a 95-96, there are cheaper and easier to find. Oh yea as for model wise, try to find a SE. I know there are alot of 95-96 SE's out there compare to the 97-98. BTW, the tails are much better.
The S-15 front end conversion will cost you roughly $3100+. Its not cheap, but its real nice. Also if you do get the front end, be careful what bumpet you get....because not everything looks nice on a car with no sides and rear.
hahahaha, it makes me so afraid to join other boards for just this reason.
i'm with T-nord on this one...
just name-dropping the S-15 is a dead give away at what kind of dude he was.
i saw in some recent incarnation of a tuner mag that any s14 or s13 can become an S-15 for a little more than $40,000 usd.... and it's still not really an s-15
oh and linkin park rocks... maybe
HyBriDThoErY
09-27-2002, 02:27 AM
Hello again guys! Well you guys can say that I am going for all show, and a little bit of go to compliment the car. There aren't too many 97-98 240sx's around here or anywhere. But the reason why I am not going all out performance is because I've had the go in my Celica. My mods included Injen CAI, AMSS header, TRD exhaust, ACT street clutch, TODA flywheel (9.6lbs), Quife LSD, and Unorthodox pulley set. I might have left out some other things. I ran a 14.9 in the quarter mile with these mods @ 500 sea level in the dang hot 100 degree weather. I had major traction problems because my tires were shitty (falken ziex). but what I'm trying to do now is that I want to do exterior mods now. Thanks for the help to the guys that aren't asses. I tell you, this board has the most @ssh0les than any other board I have been to. I'm still looking into getting a 240sx! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> I've found a 98' 240sx LE for $12000 @ 47000 miles. Do you think that's a good deal? What do they usually run($<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> in California?
Keep the responses coming. Thanks again!
HyBriDThoErY
09-27-2002, 02:33 AM
Oh yeah, I'll also be looing into a 95-96 240sx. How much do they run? You guys say they are pretty cheap. How cheap are they? Thanks!
bing: maybe? hell yeah they rock. Hence the name Hybrid Theory. I met them all at a concert that was held here in November of 01' They are the shit!!!
Thurazor
09-27-2002, 03:26 AM
It has a blue book value of $12,355 if it's in "good" condition.
ca18guy
09-27-2002, 04:34 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Thurazor @ Sep. 27 2002,10:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It has a blue book value of $12,355 if it's in "good" condition.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Really? Shit most i see are alil over half that.
BEISSEN
09-27-2002, 08:19 AM
The 95-96 will run from 4500-5500+.HEy ca18guy this guy is talking about a 98 le with only 47000 miles that is real low mileage and also a rare model.My 97 base is worth like 9gs the se was worth like 11gs so a le would be worth about 12-13gs.
ca18guy
09-27-2002, 08:25 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BEISSEN @ Sep. 28 2002,03:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The 95-96 will run from 4500-5500+.HEy ca18guy this guy is talking about a 98 le with only 47000 miles that is real low mileage and also a rare model.My 97 base is worth like 9gs the se was worth like 11gs so a le would be worth about 12-13gs.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That makes sense <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>
HyBriDThoErY
09-27-2002, 09:01 AM
Wow, that is pretty good. How is the longetivity with these cars? Is the most common problem the suspension or anything else? Sorry for all the questions. Just wanted to throw a lot in just to get the general idea of what I am getting into. Thanks again, and again. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>
SimpleS14
09-27-2002, 09:04 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Thurazor @ Sep. 26 2002,05:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It has a blue book value of $12,355 if it's in "good" condition.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
is that for a 97?
So far everyone I have met that bought a new 240SX has bought a 96 SE ranging from $5000-$6000. I bought my 95 SE for $3700, but the guy was selling it for $4400.....i just knew how to talk.
The '98 is a good deal, but in my opinion I don't see why you would buy a '98 and change the front end. The '97-'98 is a rare car (IMO) and I like the front end....all you need is the lip and you have a nice stock car. The pic in my sig can give you can idea how nice a '98 can be once you add rims and the factory lip. I'm one of the people saving up to change my front end to that style....so if you do buy the '98 I'm willing to make an offer for most of your parts. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>
I don't see why you would only go for looks only. Trust me your mind will change once you get that car. I was only going for looks until I found out what potential this car has. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>
SimpleS14
09-27-2002, 09:11 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HyBriDThoErY @ Sep. 26 2002,11:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Wow, that is pretty good. How is the longetivity with these cars? Is the most common problem the suspension or anything else? Sorry for all the questions. Just wanted to throw a lot in just to get the general idea of what I am getting into. Thanks again, and again. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
The car can last you a long time. Some people have car with 236,xxx miles and still running good. My car has 144,000 miles and runs good.....real good. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> All you have to do is take care of your car, you know be easy on the heavy foot and keep it well maintained. I hear the only problems with the engines are overheating and something with fuel (but I forgot what it was). Anyways the 240SX is a solid car. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
As for suspension, IMO I think the 240SX has a real good suspension setup. I like it when I take the twisty road doing about 60 and how my car handles in emergencies.....yes near fatal accidents.
Basically your getting into a very nice, rare, reliable, dependable, solid, and comfortable car. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
Just buy a cupholder when or if you buy the car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>
Kreator
09-27-2002, 11:05 AM
Ok to hybridtheory and all the other members that didn't like me and others bitching at the guy. I think i'll be saying what most felt.
Hybrid - the reason why we got so many "asses" on this board compared to others, is because here nobody will ever tell you that yer alluminum pos wing with neon washers looks nice. I find it really a good side of board that most people are more concerned with performance (track drag whatever) than the show. After all it's a car, not a dress. You are supposed to make it fast, not shiny. Don't worry, i also came here being a newb (and a ricer to that, although i never had a car b4) and got my flames when diserved for asking stupid questions. I survived, so will you.... if you learn of course. Now, i'm not saying that s15 convo is bad. Yeah it's ricey. But honestly i have nothing against people who want to make their cars look nice. But you don't buy a 12000 car (when u can buy a 5000 car) and waste some more money on making it look a totally different way. You must know (that's the least you must know) that s14as are the rearest of 240sx breed, and taking and wasting one of them is like the worst thing you can do.
final notes: I really don't like conversions. I think it's the worst way to spend money. Unless ofcourse you got in an accident and your front is completely gone. Although if that happend to me, i'd still put my front back on (i like it more than s15). And realizing what you can actually do with the car performance wise makes conversions really dumb. My opinion. And i actually think people will agree with me.
and to make my post worth something:
http://www.f-max.com/
http://heavythrottle.com/
either way with some minor work the 240 will run about a second faster than what your gt-s did in a quarter mile.
thelinja
09-27-2002, 12:54 PM
Yeah, and if you find a 240SX that you are interested in, make your move quickly. When I was looking to buy one, I don't know how many times I called the seller to find that the car had already been sold..and this was like two-three days after he had put it online.
About the model..if you have the cash...go for a 97-98, but if you don't, go for the 95-96. The only real benfit of getting an S14a is the most likely lower mileage...but there are a handful of S14's out there with <60K. But if you get the S15 conversion..the car will look the same regardless if it's a 95-96, or 97-98.
HyBriDThoErY
09-27-2002, 04:23 PM
Yes, you guys are right. I loved my Celica and I modded the engine to hell. I nearly spent 5g's on the engine. Oh my god it felt good. And I guess when I find and purchase the 240sx I know that I will change my mind. Trust me, there are a lot of ricers around here and they really make me sick to the stomach.
Kreator: You're cool. I know that some pos wing and neon lights looks hella fugly. And I know that this board is concerned about performance. I know that this car has potential, that is why I chose this car to be my next. But aside from the all show. Performance for me is the last thing on my mind right now. Unless its carb legal, I'll put it on my car. There are alot of cops out popping hoods and that kinda scared me so that is why I am leaning more towars the "all show" now. As far as the s15 conversion goes, I chose to listen to you guys and keep the s14 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> . I am still interested in the 98' 240sx. I found one and a two days later, it was gone <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> just like thelinja said. Oh well, now I know how rare the 98' 240sx is. LOL!
Tommy
Silviaspeed
09-27-2002, 08:09 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yes, everyone was a newbie at one point. some newbies, however, were smart enough to attempt to do at least a miniscule amount of research into the car they were buying before hopping on a specific car forum asking others to do their work for them.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Taking an educated guess at these questions sure doesn't seem like dirty work to me, especially for us "hardcore" 240 owners. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'>
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