Is a SR20DET worth it?

[91240SXGuy]

I blew my KA24...which was modified (getting it ready to take a turbo). I was wanted to know if I'd be better off saving up some more $$$ and getting a SR20, but I want to know if it's worth it? Do I have to do anything to the stock tranny and drivetrain?

I'm really cheezed off, after all the $$$ I put into that KA...I was trying to build something unique...as it seems that everyone's dropping SR20's in the cars now a days.

Any advice, help, or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks all...peace.

[statik]

if you already planned on going ka-t and being "unique" why not find another ka? they're cheap enough if you look around. SR20 will require wiring to your chassis, most good motorsets come with harness, ecu, maf, ignitor, tranny, turbo etc. so its straight drop in besides wiring.

[unicoladron]

it'll probably cost the same if you buy another ka and build it up, buy turbo, turbo mani, wg, piping, ic, clutch,etc etc then if you buy an sr20 motorset blah blah blah.

for a good motorset expect to pay ~1900, and for a clip ~2500. you can get a KA24 from anywhere (including me ifyou're interested) and buy the internals and getting the head and block machined. actually now that i think, that's a shitload ofwork, sr20 will prob be cheaper haha.

[civilized_drifter]

just find another ka, they are pretty cheap at junkyards ( i got my 96 for 300 running) sence you have all of the mods on the ka. and if you do decide to go with a SR the stock drive shaft works perfectly and you should not have to mess with the drive line, unless you want to make it stronger.

[chituntang]

Find a good condition KA, rebuild it with unique parts, put the turbo kit you have planned for it, and you will have a bad ass motor. Not to say anything bad about SR, but you will run into troubles too.

[tiresmokes13]

KA or SR
Whichever make you happy
I am a strong sr believer
And would do an sr swap if i was in your shoes.


Good luck

[((sr)) kelly]

i like my sr20....


the reliablitiy of a sr20det is far higher then that of a kat IMO

[azndoc]

I love my Sr20.

I beat it up, clean it up, and she takes a beating but keeps on ticking.

[GabeS14]

SR!!!!!
you will love it once its running.
(guess I can say you will also feel special.)
besides having a good motor.

[s13Eper]

I was in your shoes a couple years ago. Chose the SR and haven't looked back. :bigok:

[unicoladron]

i also just noticed you were in alabama?

how many people down there in bama have sr20's?

if you get an sr20, youwill most likely be unique and special.

the only reason you probably think "everyone" has sr20's cuz most of the people on this forum are from socal, which is sr20ville.

[Borund]

lol yeah, im in socal and it is sr20ville. It'll cost you twice as much to build up an ka-t, then just going sr20. I'd say go with sr20.

[gripstr]

the only reason you probably think "everyone" has sr20's cuz most of the people on this forum are from socal, which is sr20ville.

Yes, CA is overpopulated with sr's

Go RB20

more weight but more reliable than sr

[projekt_s13]

Yes, CA is overpopulated with sr's

Go RB20

more weight but more reliable than sr

wtf? lol fuckingdamnmessagelength

[ichibans13.5]

drop a rb25 in it if you want bigger displacement for abig turbo and something on the uniquer side

[steve shadows]

SR!!!!!
you will love it once its running.
(guess I can say you will also feel special.)
besides having a good motor.

having an sr and feeling special ended in 2001

[statik]

having an sr and feeling special ended in 2001

depends on what state you live in, SR's didn't get popular on the east coast until about 04-05, just after snap bracelets, except maybe florida

[i need tires]

SR20 for sure! Im sure everyone here know Greg (Nico) he did a crazy build on his KA-t and he still blew it up, (its now rebuilt again)
i like my sr because i can beat on here and all i need to do is my regular maintenance.. and i DD it

[steve shadows]

who the hell is greg and what is nico?

is that some korean car or something

[i need tires]

Yes, CA is overpopulated with sr's

Go RB20

more weight but more reliable than sr

lmfao! damn dude never thought i would hear someone say this :loco:

rb20 parts are kinda hard to find.. not like with a sr u can cross reference a lot of parts...

[GabeS14]

Not special as in Unique !..You shouldn't care what others do.

But as in accomplished!:)
with an upgrade!
plus he does live in ALABAMA, not to many SR'd Cows and horses over there!

comprende?

[i need tires]

who the hell is greg and what is nico?

is that some korean car or something

haha no im sure u know what nico is..

this is Greg and Nico
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=288297

[steve shadows]

depends on what state you live in, SR's didn't get popular on the east coast until about 04-05, just after snap bracelets, except maybe florida

it wasnt widespread until the same time here

but I mean there were people doing them wide spread in 03

so I didnt feel very special even in 01-02 seeing benson with an sr etc

[Antihero983]

there's always the CA18DET....:bigok:

[GabeS14]

haha no im sure u know what nico is..

this is Greg and Nico
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=288297

LOL,
that covered part over rear seats, looks rediculous.

[BPMKA24DE]

Hey whats the KA24DE waight Vs SR20? really wanna know the difrence :hsdance:

thanks

[Nismoknightska-t]

sr20 are sooo played out..

its like a b16 in a honda..

go ka-t or rb

[k's_silvia2.0]

sr20 are sooo played out..

its like a b16 in a honda..

go ka-t or rb

WTF!!!Your comparison is retarded.:loco:

[ManoNegra]

i like my sr20....


the reliablitiy of a sr20det is far higher then that of a kat IMO

SR20 for sure! Im sure everyone here know Greg (Nico) he did a crazy build on his KA-t and he still blew it up, (its now rebuilt again)
i like my sr because i can beat on here and all i need to do is my regular maintenance.. and i DD it

Translation: A KA-T set-up requires well thought out planning - fuel, tunning, etc. SR is more idiot proof - buy clip and have car running in a couple of days, one if you know what you're doing.

Reason I'd consider a KA-T would be for smog/law issues. Get popped, easier to swap back to oem.

sr20 are sooo played out..

its like a b16 in a honda..

go ka-t or rb

And so is having "JDM", "Drift", "Nismo", etc in your username.. :2f2f:

[status:one]

And so is having "JDM", "Drift", "Nismo", etc in your username..

lmao!




msglength

[statik]

And so is having "JDM", "Drift", "Nismo", etc in your username.. :2f2f:

my original name was JdmDriftSamurai =[

[OBEEWON]

Flip an SR get a motorcycle...
<----------(2nd SR currently giving crap)

[Silverbullet]

go ka-t or rb

If you like torque, yep.
:bigok:

Nothing against SRs. Infact, i've owned an SR since 04. They are great, but you would be suprised at how big of a difference that 0.4L makes in terms of producing mid range torque and spooling a turbo.

[ESmorz]

I'm running into the same problem...

I know all the pros and cons, but I want to keep it street legal (as my dd) and heavily insurable just in case...

decisions...decisions....

[MonkeyWrench]

SR20 for sure! Im sure everyone here know Greg (Nico) he did a crazy build on his KA-t and he still blew it up, (its now rebuilt again)

Wrong-o-matic.

The blowed-up motor was stock with boost. i know, because he gave it to me (I wanted a KA to rebuild).

The new KA-T is fully-built, reliable, and wicked fast. Last I saw it, it had about 2K miles on it, and he beats the ever-lovin' piss outta that thing.

[Silvia_S13]

I love my Sr20.

I beat it up, clean it up, and she takes a beating but keeps on ticking.

im with azndoc, i've had my sr20 since 2005, done loads of beating and its still alive.

i was gonna try ka-t when i first got it, but it poped before i finished gathering parts. very discouraging. but other friends of mine have a basic ka-t setup thats lasted over 20 events and still kickin.

the choice is yours and yours alone.

[motorsnail]

sr20 unles you wanna build it rods,pistons, yadda yadda. Ka-t is cool and has power but slaping a turbo on a N/A engine that wasnt built for it is just dumb and ghetto IMO. If going ka-t its not if its going to blow its when its going to blow if its stock.

[lflkajfj12123]

this thread gives me a headache

just flip a coin and call it a day

[bo2o]

just turbo the Ka you have, and when it blows just swap for sr. u already have the turbo and down pipe and elbow for it.

just go back and forth haha.
wen the sr blows u have a fully built ka ready to drop after.

[Grenade180sx]

sr20 unles you wanna build it rods,pistons, yadda yadda. Ka-t is cool and has power but slaping a turbo on a N/A engine that wasnt built for it is just dumb and ghetto IMO. If going ka-t its not if its going to blow its when its going to blow if its stock.


slapping a turbo on a NA engine is dumb? tell that to all the Rb25det guys with there 9.1 compression ratio. lol dont say it was planned to be turbo seeing as its the only rb with a higher compression ratio than the rb20and rb26

its basically a factory na car with a turbo!:hitit:

[Silverbullet]

sr20 unles you wanna build it rods,pistons, yadda yadda. Ka-t is cool and has power but slaping a turbo on a N/A engine that wasnt built for it is just dumb and ghetto IMO. If going ka-t its not if its going to blow its when its going to blow if its stock.

Are you stuck in 2003? There are many KA-Ts out there on bone stock internals running strong 300WHP.

Explain what exactly makes it "not built" for boost and what makes it ghetto?

Go ahead... because i dont think you can. :keke:

That's the same as saying putting on a larger turbo on an SR or RB is ghetto and wasn't ment for it because it didn't come like that from the dealership.

[Peter_North]

Depends...S13 SR? S14 SR? S15 SR?

Most S13 Sr's are weaksauce...a nicely done T25 KA rapes SR's that are running way higher boost. Also that 2.4 makes much better torque, and as for price somebody did a decent KA - t setup for $700 installed @ KA-T.org

[motorsnail]

Are you stuck in 2003? There are many KA-Ts out there on bone stock internals running strong 300WHP.

Explain what exactly makes it "not built" for boost and what makes it ghetto?

Go ahead... because i dont think you can. :keke:

That's the same as saying putting on a larger turbo on an SR or RB is ghetto and wasn't ment for it because it didn't come like that from the dealership.

Dude the KA was built the way it was to acheive the power it has point blank. Yeah tuning can help but to an extent if you are not a good tuner its worthless motor will blow on 7 pounds of boost then you gotta rebuild anyways its stupid once agian this is an "opinion". Just do it right was all I was saying or its quite stupid just because your stock ka is holding by a thread with all the band aids you added up to hold the mummy together.

So if your going to boost a "stock" KA and your looking for reliabilty over the SR not gonna happen sorry just cant convince me:love:

[fliprayzin240sx]

First, what parts do you already have to go KA-T??? If you have enough parts for the turbo kit, then i say fuck it and just use the money to rebuild the KA for boost. The only suspect on the KA is the piston, drop some forged 8.5 or 9-1 piston and boost it. Rods are good to handle plenty of abuse and the head flows and is strong enough to hold itself together.

The only thing the SR got over the KA is that its built boosted and can handle it. The downside of SRs now is that they are prone to failure due to crappy lubricating/cooling issues. Also, theres not a whole lot of decent SRs left in japan, most of the SRs hitting the states now are craptacular. Most of them has sat in the junkyards, out in the open, for so long cuz nobody wanted them. Now importers are forced to get them since theyre the only ones available.

[motorsnail]

First, what parts do you already have to go KA-T??? If you have enough parts for the turbo kit, then i say fuck it and just use the money to rebuild the KA for boost. The only suspect on the KA is the piston, drop some forged 8.5 or 9-1 piston and boost it. Rods are good to handle plenty of abuse and the head flows and is strong enough to hold itself together.

The only thing the SR got over the KA is that its built boosted and can handle it. The downside of SRs now is that they are prone to failure due to crappy lubricating/cooling issues. Also, theres not a whole lot of decent SRs left in japan, most of the SRs hitting the states now are craptacular. Most of them has sat in the junkyards, out in the open, for so long cuz nobody wanted them. Now importers are forced to get them since theyre the only ones available.

Dont forget to replace those weak bolts on them rods in that thing while your in there ;) arp head bolts then it would be as reliable as sr maybe even go cheapo on the rods and get them treated.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Well rebuild is a rebuild, check the rods for warpage, fresh rod and main bearings, block hone, deck, metal HG and put everything back together with forged pistons. Engine should be good enough to run with the lot. Just a matter of figuring out what turbo, injectors and tuning (AEM is my recommendation).

[Silverbullet]

Yeah tuning can help but to an extent if you are not a good tuner its worthless motor will blow on 7 pounds of boost then you gotta rebuild:

That applies to EVERY motor out there. I dont understand why you would use this in an SR vs KA dispute.

[motorsnail]

That applies to EVERY motor out there. I dont understand why you would use this in an SR vs KA dispute.

He was talking booted and reliable stock sr or stock ka turbo............as far as I thought the sr came boosted so it would probably be a little bit better and wouldnt require a tune to boost and be reliable sence it comes boosted. I see your point on the KA but stock for stock boosted being daily driven sr just wins.

Edit: I read that it kinda seems like im attacking..Silverbullet you the man....

[bardabe]

lmfao! damn dude never thought i would hear someone say this :loco:

rb20 parts are kinda hard to find.. not like with a sr u can cross reference a lot of parts...

dude shut the hell up. I Had an RB20 and I never had a problem finiding anything for it. so unless you've owned an RB or a CA before. STFU :jerkit: don;t mean to come off as an asshole or anything but it stresses me out how "parts for RB's are hard to find" no they are not, and no they aren't expensive. perfect example. my buddy's Idler Pulley went out. was making stupid noises.

RB25 Power Enterprize belt,
N1 Oil Pump
Z31 Belt Tensioner.
Z32 cam Seals


soon later his alternator went out.

B13 Sentra 1.6L straight drop in. no mods what so ever.

that';s just an example. of how easy shit is to get.

[SR_Elliott24]

Yes, CA is overpopulated with sr's

Go RB20

more weight but more reliable than sr

True everyone has an SR. Where im at all the 240's that come off the base(Marines) have SRs

[SR_Elliott24]

Only real problem I have with an SR is with the parts that aren't interchangable like the Starter which previously went out on me. Got it rebuilt by some mexicans near the border for a case of beer and $30

[LimitedEdition]

ya know i was at the deli today and wanted some sweet and spicy chicken, but i couldnt figure out if $1.99 a pound was worth it.

what do you think guys, $1.99 for a lb of sweet and spicy chicken nuggets? worth it?

[motorsnail]

ya know i was at the deli today and wanted some sweet and spicy chicken, but i couldnt figure out if $1.99 a pound was worth it.

what do you think guys, $1.99 for a lb of sweet and spicy chicken nuggets? worth it?

fo sho:yum: msglghgft5ds

LOL

[SR_Elliott24]

ya know i was at the deli today and wanted some sweet and spicy chicken, but i couldnt figure out if $1.99 a pound was worth it.

what do you think guys, $1.99 for a lb of sweet and spicy chicken nuggets? worth it?

$1.99/lb of sweet and spicy chicken nuggets?! Where can you get that sweet deal:eek:

[LimitedEdition]

the same walmart that fucks up spelling on cakes.

[Devios88]

im late..... umm go with sr20.
its better then blowing up another KA and spending more money..!
=D

[slow40sx]

well in my opinion it would be much cheap and u'd make more power gettin a KA and doin ARP head studs and a metal head gasket and arp rod bolts and doin top mount so u can run a good sized turbo, i'm doin that set up with a SC61 and a rev-hard mani and runnin like 15 lbs, it'll make way more power then a 2500-4000 dollar SR swap, and it'll only cost u 1500-2000, this is just my opinion tho, the SR KA battle will go on forever generaly i believe SR=KA but in my own opinion KA-T FTW!!!! :rawk:

[0wn3r]

In my recent experience, good luck finding a good SR. Finding a vendor that actually gives a good price and has a reliable engine with all the parts you need (MAF, ignitor, etc.) is like winning the lottery. You're going to spend about $2500 on something that might be CRAP. In either case, if you go SR, DON'T BUY IT UNLESS YOU TOUCH IT AND INSPECT IT. (in other words, don't buy online or over the phone and assume the shop is on your side.)

I almost wish I went KA-T at this point...

Think about emissions and part availability when making your decision too.

[motorsnail]

In my recent experience, good luck finding a good SR. Finding a vendor that actually gives a good price and has a reliable engine with all the parts you need (MAF, ignitor, etc.) is like winning the lottery. You're going to spend about $2500 on something that might be CRAP. In either case, if you go SR, DON'T BUY IT UNLESS YOU TOUCH IT AND INSPECT IT. (in other words, don't buy online or over the phone and assume the shop is on your side.)

I almost wish I went KA-T at this point...

Think about emissions and part availability when making your decision too.

If your spending $2500 on a SR and get ripped off on it...You diserve it, most of the highpriced companys have that price because they dont rip people off. I have yet to see a crappy SR come from heavy throttle or G demension that came here . I guese we are just lotto winners? Or maybe we buy from companys that would rather keep the good name they got. We 240 peoples are cheap and thats why most people get crappy motors. Sure good companys charge $1000 more but the motor isnt blown and has everything, guys from g demension even sent a video of the clip starting up for a friend.

Finding a good SR is easy to find in other words just gotta pay to play these days. You pay $1500 for a motor swap you are getting a $1500 SR swap not a $2500 swap. Its wrong and retarded but its what they do so I would suggest not buying a $1500 SR swap then bitching because you know thats cheap for a SR witch would have been my red flag. First thing out of my mouth when sombody says full sr swap $1500 I say "Whats wrong with it? Somthing has to be wrong with it."