RPSil13 ripped me off!!!

[BillyTheChamp]

name is Art L.
2 emails.. [email protected] and [email protected] (was his paypal.. i will post his number if nothing gets resolved.. he is from Anaheim, California

i bought from this guy a quick release carbon fiber, short hub, and nrg lock from this thread..http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=159166.. for the agreed price of 216.30 shipped, well when I receive the item a week later.. and he had locked the short hub, quick release and lock all together with the nrg lock..(will post pics) and he did not send the keys.. rendering the unit completely useless.. and the short hub was dented (which he didnt mention in the thread)
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so after calling,texting,pming and complaining he flips out cursing me out saying that his girlfriend got in an accident and he doesn't have time to deal with my crap.. i then complained that it was terrible customer service.. and then he replies that i low balled him so it doesn't matter and he will deal with me on monday..(funny he didn't complain when we agreed on the price) i then replied that regardless of price we agreed on it.. (i have all our conversation on text and pms on file).. i will post them if everyone want to see our exact conversations..

so my concerns was that he lost the keys and doesn't intend to send them.. so i filed a claim on paypal.. untill he sent the keys..

then so today morning -tuesday- he sends me a pm saying that he found the keys but he doesnt intend to send them unless i pay him an extra 35.00.. here is the exact pm by him...

"yes i found the keys, but you never paid for the keys, if you look at your invoice you sent me payment for the short hub, quick release and lock, so ill be posting them up on "for sale" thread, but since your a premier customer and im such a nice guy ill let you have dibs on it, wll prob post them tonight for $35, lmk if you want them, HAVE A NICE DAY : )"

who sells a lock with out keys??!? so I text and pm him asking if he is serious.. the keys wont work with another lock.. and I continue to ask him if he is seriously not going to send me the keys.. and he just texted me back that "the real question is, are you not going to send me the money and let all those parts go to waste".. this is totally unethical of him.. and i think he will do this to other people he sells to..
i already called nrg and they said that they can't send me new keys.. but will give me a deal on a new one.. great cust service..

Send me those keys Art! you are a theif!

so I'm going to post in all his threads how he stole from me and how he is a scammer..

[babowc]

lol
oh man.
just follow through with the paypal claim..
what the heck.. thats the most douchebaggery thing i ever heard.
lol.

[BillyTheChamp]

i did follow through with the claim.. i could have easily ripped him off.. but i didnt.. but paypal said they wont award me my money back since it only covers miss shipped items not missing/broken items.. im going to have to call the credit card company and possibly claim it as fraud..

[babowc]

tell paypal its not significantly as described.
they should be able to rule it in your favor..
also tell them not all parts were included as in the sale thread.

or just simply go through your cc.

[BillyTheChamp]

yeah im going to call my credit card company tommrow..

[boogerlovers]

wow what an asshole...i hope you get those damn keys man...wat a dick

[azndoc]

Damn that's a badass scam/blackmail

It's like selling a car and then asking another $10,000 for the key to it.

WOW.....

[soon2bs13]

wow...that sucks. i hope he gets kicked in the nuts...

[hunter8411]

Damn man that sucks, thats all kinds of shady. Hope you get your money back.

[S14DB]

RPSil13 needs to PM me or be banned from the marketplace.

[adrians_s13]

damn... thats pretty weakk...

[BillyTheChamp]

yeah.. thanks for the support guys.. i hope i get my money back too.. and enjoy my new paper weight...(unless he sends the keys).. bottom line he is just keeping it to be a dick..sadly this is the first time i got screwed on a car forum (i was on honda-tech for a long time user name (you know i got sol!) and have had about 40 plus transactions with no problems at all.. and i have been paypal verifed since 2002.. sadly i guess after this, it's hard for me to buy from a private seller anymore unless it's face to face.. so i guess im buying all my parts from sponsors now..

[FaLKoN240]

What the hell, what a shitty seller, he should be banned from more than just the marketplace. People that do dirt like that to other members have no place on this forum.

[WERDdabuilder]

wow..the fuck kinda seller is that. sell the lock but not the key with it?

BAN FOR LIFE!

gluck with it man.

[Tearlessj]

O damn thats completely fucked up. I hope he gets whats coming to him. Good luck with that.

[zerooath]

Get this stuff straightened out somehow then BAN HIS ASS from the whole site.

people like this guy ruin the fucking internet.

[mayco_86]

Hopefully paypal refunds your money back because I kinda been in the same situation but paypal never refunded my money back. Even though I had emails the guy.

[exitspeed]

Fuck that that douchebag is getting neg rep from me asap. What a fuckin dick. This kind of stuff makes me so angry, even though it doesn't concern me one bit. People like this mess our community up here at Zilvia.

[BillyTheChamp]

yeah.. im going to call him again today.. he will probably ignore my call.. maybe he's wiling to make it right.. but probably not.. funny thing is i can find out all info like his address and social security, (of his entire family) if i wanted..

[Saltman]

Man that sucks. Sorry to hear about that. Hope you get you money back.

[mayco_86]

Fuck that that douchebag is getting neg rep from me asap. What a fuckin dick. This kind of stuff makes me so angry, even though it doesn't concern me one bit. People like this mess our community up here at Zilvia.

Hes definatley going down with that many good reps.

[qt_240]

w0w.... he doesnt deserve to be here on zilvia.. i feel you man.. ive been swindle by shady business here on zilvia to0.. hope everything works out for you

[Sil-Eighty SE-K]

whne u get your money back thru your CC (cux paypal sucks and even if they rule in your favor if his acct is empty they tell you tough shit....) just pick the lock open and get a new one....youll have the whole setup for much cheaper :)

[DALAZ_68]

any chance u can go to lock smith and have them make u a key :-/ something atleast ya know

[tacotacotaco]

you may have a pound of flesh but not one drop of blood.

[BillyTheChamp]

lol.. thanks guys.. well i took it to a lock smith and they said that they could not pick or make a copy of the lock.. they said they can drill it .. but i dont want to risk the chance of messing up the bottom part of the quick release that is attached to it.. and it's pritty difficult to saw it with out some heavy duty saw.. (nrg made a good design)..

well update..
i talked to Art via text message.. and he said that he will send the keys tommrow.. (thursday).. so i removed all the scammer posts from his threads.. hopefully thinks work out.. ill keep you guys informed on what goes down..

[azndoc]

Well I'm sure that he's realizing that all those red squares aren't funny anymore when your trying to sell other stuff.

[BillyTheChamp]

Well I'm sure that he's realizing that all those red squares aren't funny anymore when your trying to sell other stuff.

yeah that's the truth.. thanks for the support zilvia community.. i will give all you guys who supported me pos feedback.. this community really takes care of its members..

[S13Leprechaun]

i, as well as everyone else have already bad repped him.. lol.. good luck with the situation.

[Mathetai]

Hope all work out for you dude. :-/

[fromxtor]

^^ Good thing, NRG tried to drill through their hub lock (i saw the write-up on the site awhile back) and were not able to drill through it.

[Tearlessj]

any chance u can go to lock smith and have them make u a key :-/ something atleast ya know
He minus well buy the key if hes ganna pay about the same to get one made. But thats letting the scammer win.

[ReLiC]

Damn that's really fukd up... he should get banned after he sends the keys... if not, keep the posts in his threads saying he's a scammer cuz you know he's going to keep on doing it.

[BillyTheChamp]

well let's all just sit back and see if i get those keys..

[exitspeed]

^
Did he say he's gonna send them to you now?

[BillyTheChamp]

yeah.. he just confirmed to me just now by text that he just mailed out and should be here probably monday.. ill keep you guys posted..

[Sil-Eighty SE-K]

yea now he sends them out that he got called out and now looks like a douchebag....he should stay banned from the marketplace reguardless

[x'ed]

Dude that really sucks, i think I am about to face the same problem, all my pm's have been ignored ever since the guy received my payment. I hope it works out as well for me as it has for you in the end.

There needs to be something better than paypal, a place that could hold the funds until they received a tracking number and could contact ups to see if they item was delivered or not and not release the funds until that time.

[soon2bs13]

lol... glad u got things worked out... weird how he doesn't wanna seem like a douche bag now that everyone is talking crap. i still think he deserves a kick in the nuts... and whoever neg repped me for sayin that, needs one too!! lol... i am glad that scammers dont get neg repped but i did for stating my .02...pansy :thumbs up: !!

[RPSil13]

well id like to thank everyone for all the pretty red squares, i like how everyone is quick to judge w/out knowing both sides of the story, lets start off withe the fact that i am not a scammer or any of the other complimenting words used, ive been on over 6 forums and no problems until now w/ this guy, its a long story and it starts out with me selling him the stuff, then i week later on wed/thurs he calls me and says the keys are missing so im like wtf b/c i remembered puttng the keys in there so i told him that i would look for them and send them as soon as i find them, i ended up finding them in my car thurs night, so i planned to send them friday, but i had to work right after class and didnt have a chance to send them out, so i go to work and at 3pm i get a call from the hospital saying that my gf is in the ER, so i have to leave work and head to the hospital to find my gf in a bloody mess (her car got t-boned), and so i have to stay w/ her all night, all the meanwhile this billy guy keeps texting me and pm'ng me, so yeah i get a little pissed off cus obviously to me my gf is way more important than some stupid keys, and i ask him to chill out and that ill send them monday, so yeah i understand that he wants his keys but i also need him to understand that something pretty drastic just happened and i would appreciate it if he could just chill out till monday, but unfortunately he doesnt understand b/c all weekend he decides to fill up my inbox, so on moday im at work and i havent slep more that 6 hours since friday, so im a little edgy, and i get a text from this guy asking to send the keys, so yeah i get a little pissed and i decide to fuck around with him a little, kinda a dick thing to do, i agree, but he jus got me at a wrong time, plus im not retarded where i forget what i need to do, i know i have to send him the keys but i just hadnt had time i go to school from 630am to 1130am and then go to work from 12pm-9pm so it doesnt leave me much time to drop by the post office, so thats how all this came to be cus some guy just didnt understand that i needed a few days to get everything straighten out, kept "bugging" me and i decided to fuck around with him cus in reality why would i keep the keys, wat could i possibly use them for, so yeah not a scammer or any shady business just a series of unfortunate events that led to this

[exitspeed]

PUNCTUATION! Periods are your friend.

Sorry to hear about your girl.

Sounds like he was being annoying about it, and maybe should have been a little more compassionate about your situation too.

But fuckin around with him MORE didn't make matters better.

Does he have the keys now or are they sent out?

[BillyTheChamp]

so yeah.. no keys yet.. and Dont even let him say that i was soooo annoying to be treated like this.. i call him on thrusday to see why didnt get the keys.. he promises he will try to find them friday.. i get no contact from him on friday.. so i sent him a text and pm.. and pritty much i said (dude whats up.. did you find the keys.. because this thing is useless with out it") then he replies..

"dude chill the F#@$ out, i'm to busy to deal with your [email protected]#%".. so I pmed and text him WTF.. and complain..

so then he texts me back [email protected]#% YOU!! my girl got in an accident..and i dont have time to deal with you so ill deal with this monday"

so then i said my bad.. about the accident.. and ill wait till monday.. and i didnt even pm him once till monday.. and i got no replay.. or even a phone call or text.. so then on tuesday he says he found the keys but then he wont sent them with out 35bucks..

so then i said.. why don't you just send them and do the right thing.. and if he really doesnt want to do the right thing.. and he said, do you really dont want to send the money and let those parts go to waste.. I pmed a modd and told him about my situation and he told me to post it here.. i know i was annoying.. but NOTHING i did deserved that kind of treatment.. if i didnt post this thread on here.. ART would not have send those keys (well he said he sent them.. i havnt got them yet)..

[RPSil13]

i never said you deserved that sort of treatment, you just got me at a wrong time, key have been sent out since thurs, the post man guy said they should be there mon at latest, i even have the receipt if you wanna see it.

[DALAZ_68]

wow...


in other words rpsil80...u decided to f*ck with his head and because of that u got ur nice red block...

i understand ur situation...ive had to deal with people on ebay during family crisis, but i never turned my anger and stress on towards them...thats why people say, family is family and business is business, u shouldnt mix em together...u did, and hence the result...

i express to u that i hope ur gf makes a full recovery from her traumatic accident, but u sir need to grow up and control ur temp...and BillyTheChamp, patience is a virtue...

[BillyTheChamp]

i just got the keys today.. we can lock this thread... thanks for everyone who supported me..