Front speaker question

[speedgod^s13]

I searched, and most people have covered running different size front speakers, for s13's, but I haven't seen anyone talk about running 5.25" in the fronts. I bought a set of JL components, and I want to run them. Is it possible? Does anyone have a template?

[projectRDM]

Make one, 5 minutes with a jigsaw.

[DreamN]

you can use 1/4 plexiglass to do it. that's what a friend and I did to make a replica of the ebay for 6.5in. front speakers. don't know if it's the best material for the job, but so far it's worked for my friend.

[nissanguy13]

You just take the speaker, trace it on to the material of your choice and cut out the outline with a dremmel or jigsaw. My last car I used plexi glass, the car I have now someone used particle board.

[MELLO*SOS]

Most people run 6.5s up front, but if you already have a pair of 5.25s the process is the same... Get some plexi or MDF or ABS plastic, make a cardstock template of the OEM plastic mount, cut out your plate, drill the screw holes, center your speaker hole and cut it out... Be sure to measure the depth with your window down since some speaker magnets will collide with the glass!

Here's my 6.5s, 1/4" plexi with some foam tape on the back:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/mello88/DSC05240.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/mello88/DSC05242.jpg

[Munch]

i used cardboard on mine....works well enough considering i dont have any kind of cutting tools to cut that type of material you guys are talking about.

[MELLO*SOS]

^ What happens when you wash your car or it rains..

To cut my plexi I just used a dremel with the drill-bit looking cutter, then cleaned it up with the sanding drum attachment..

[tangch]

Just find the template for the 6.5 speakers, and cut the 5.25 hole instead of 6.5. I seen the template(like the one mello88 made) here b4, just search for the template and make it.

[speedgod^s13]

Just find the template for the 6.5 speakers, and cut the 5.25 hole instead of 6.5. I seen the template(like the one mello88 made) here b4, just search for the template and make it.

You know what? That's fucking ingenious. :rawk:

[P_856]

i was too lazy to do all of that so i took out the whole thing including grill and mounted a 6x9 on the door panel fits perfectly

[Munch]

^ What happens when you wash your car or it rains..

Nothing, apparently. Ive had the speakers set up like that in there for over a year; the cardboard is holding up fine and the speakers arent jacked up or anything.

[MELLO*SOS]

^ Maybe your window seals are in better condition than mine :) I haven't pulled the speakers out since I put them in, every time I wash the car I wonder about that.

[g6civcx]

Sorry for the revival.

Can someone recommend a good 6.5" speaker? The top mount depth should be no deeper than 2.5" for an S13.

I only have 1 pair of speakers so it would be nice to have a good pair. Any recommendations?

[bejota180sx]

yeah i dont know shit about audio, and everyone says different brands are best...

i only have speaker, i used to have a nice sound system but took out the subs and the amps (im gutted now) but i still want speakers... any ideas for a good decent priced speakers than can handle high volume and still sound nice... something all around that can handle bass and high nicely with just having a headunit and 4 speakers...

6.5 preferably

[druthafoo]

are you guys willing to externally amp these speakers?

[g6civcx]

are you guys willing to externally amp these speakers?

Sure, if sound quality is good.

Right now I have a simple Dual XDM6820 running a pair of Sony Xplodes with no amp. Sound quality is terrible.

[DrtyRat]

Check overstock.com for some great deals. I got a set of pioneer premier component speakers for <100 and shipping is only 2.95
edit:here's the ones I got http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Pioneer-TS-A1302C-Component-Speaker/3386952/product.html

[druthafoo]

Sure, if sound quality is good.

Right now I have a simple Dual XDM6820 running a pair of Sony Xplodes with no amp. Sound quality is terrible.
good choice.. oh one more question.. did you want to run a coaxial speaker? or a component set? difference is that coaxial has woofer/mid/tweeter built into same like the dudes above

and the component is separated usually with a woofer, tweeter, and an external xover as well.

plus how much are you wiling to throw down? I can make recommendations from here.

[g6civcx]

good choice.. oh one more question.. did you want to run a coaxial speaker? or a component set? difference is that coaxial has woofer/mid/tweeter built into same like the dudes above

and the component is separated usually with a woofer, tweeter, and an external xover as well.

I don't mind running either. I'll even consider running more speakers and maybe even a small sub.

plus how much are you wiling to throw down? I can make recommendations from here.

Keep in mind that I'm not trying to build a competition system. So I'm not all about loudness. I want clarity so I can make out what they're saying.

With that in mind, how much would the top-end system cost? How about 1 or 2 steps down from the top-end stuff? I'lll probably aim to be somewhere in that range.

Thanks for your help.

[druthafoo]

I don't mind running either. I'll even consider running more speakers and maybe even a small sub.



Keep in mind that I'm not trying to build a competition system. So I'm not all about loudness. I want clarity so I can make out what they're saying.

With that in mind, how much would the top-end system cost? How about 1 or 2 steps down from the top-end stuff? I'lll probably aim to be somewhere in that range.

Thanks for your help.
You really want to know?

CS 360.30 Reference - Rainbow Reference 6.9" 3-Way System (http://www.woofersetc.com/p7178/CS-36030-Reference--Rainbow-Reference-69&quot;-3Way-System.htm)
CS 360.30 Reference Active - Rainbow Reference 6.9" 3-Way Active System (http://www.woofersetc.com/p7179/CS-36030-Reference-Active--Rainbow-Reference-69&quot;-3Way-Active-System.htm) without the apparent 1400 dollar xovers
Kit No7 - Focal Utopia Be 6.5" 3 Way Component System (http://www.woofersetc.com/p4312/Kit-No7--Focal-Utopia-Be-65&quot;-3-Way-Component-System.htm)
ES-07.4USX GOLD - CDT Audio 6.5" / 4" 2/3 Way Complete Component Set with built-in UpStage System (http://www.woofersetc.com/p4369/ES074USX-GOLD--CDT-Audio-65&quot;---4&quot;-2-3-Way-Complete-Component-Set-with-builtin-UpStage-System.htm)
Supremo 6 2W - Morel 6.5" 2 Way Component System (http://www.woofersetc.com/p4749/Supremo-6-2W--Morel-65&quot;-2-Way-Component-System.htm)

and there are some more that are more expensive I believe. Like honestly.. if you were able to throw down maybe.. 200 for components, 150ish for an amp plus install stuff like wiring and such.. you can have a good system.

remember

install > equipment.. you can have top end equipment but it can sound like shit if you have no idea what youre doing with it.

OH btw.. I can also design your box if you want. I'll do it for free.

edit: I just saw that you're from Virginia. I can possibly build you one too if you want.

[g6civcx]

install > equipment.. you can have top end equipment but it can sound like shit if you have no idea what youre doing with it.

I hear you loud and clear, no pun intended :ddog:

Let me browse over the info.

[bejota180sx]

good choice.. oh one more question.. did you want to run a coaxial speaker? or a component set? difference is that coaxial has woofer/mid/tweeter built into same like the dudes above

and the component is separated usually with a woofer, tweeter, and an external xover as well.

plus how much are you wiling to throw down? I can make recommendations from here.


well i used to have in old times coaxial speakers with a 1200amp pushing 3 woofers in a pressure box and all that... always sounded nice to everyone so i have a mild idea about install and setting (im a musician and im used to equalize stuff for sound...) but my problem is most people here with sound systems in there car listen to reggeaton only (yeah puerto rico home of reggaeton so its kinda logical...) but i also listen to everything else... like some speakers sound good with reggaeton but then put any other type of music and they just dont sound good... and most people here are biased about sound quality because of that... i want something thats like a overall speaker coaxial cause i dont want to run woofers again just want a simple headunit 4 speakers setup really... i have for the momento a jvc i think its old 250w headunit its been a while since i looked at it...


just a simple and decent sound system... money well is close to $200 on 4 speakers a decent price? if they are lower better a bit more im ok with that if the quality is ok... but is that like a nice budget minded for speakers only?

[druthafoo]

i want something thats like a overall speaker coaxial cause i dont want to run woofers again just want a simple headunit 4 speakers setup really... i have for the momento a jvc i think its old 250w headunit its been a while since i looked at it...


just a simple and decent sound system... money well is close to $200 on 4 speakers a decent price? if they are lower better a bit more im ok with that if the quality is ok... but is that like a nice budget minded for speakers only?
not a problem dude.. your jvc HU is probably 250w MAX so in reality youre probably only pushing around 25ish watts per speaker which is nothing great but definitely better than stock. As far as coaxials.. what car do you have? This will help me in determining speaker size too.

[Devil Man]

MB quarts speakers and be done with it.

[druthafoo]

MB quarts speakers and be done with it.
Many of the lower end/mid end MB's are made in China now. :(

[LA_phantom_240]

I have Alpine Type-R components in my doors/A-pillars. They BARELY fit. With a thicker mounting baffle, they're fine. Excellent sound especially with an amp

I had the same setup in my S13, but they were coax Type-Rs.

[druthafoo]

I have Alpine Type-R components in my doors/A-pillars. They BARELY fit. With a thicker mounting baffle, they're fine. Excellent sound especially with an amp

I had the same setup in my S13, but they were coax Type-Rs.
For the money, Type-R's are pretty good. Get sort of muddy when you crank em tho. How thick is your baffle? Mine is 1/2 inch plexi iirc; I made that thing like 3 years ago and its still holding up.

My Crystal SSCS6 components have a top mount depth of 2 3/4 inches and it's obviously too deep. I think sacrificing rolling the window all the way down is worth using these components.

[LA_phantom_240]

For the money, Type-R's are pretty good. Get sort of muddy when you crank em tho. How thick is your baffle? Mine is 1/2 inch plexi iirc; I made that thing like 3 years ago and its still holding up.

My Crystal SSCS6 components have a top mount depth of 2 3/4 inches and it's obviously too deep. I think sacrificing rolling the window all the way down is worth using these components.

Mine was 1/2" MDF, covered with bedliner for water resistance. Right now I have my mids in the factory door location in the S14. I liked the wood better. I might make a real baffle soon.

Thicker baffle = more depth to work with... but at some point you hit the door panel with the surround.

[druthafoo]

Mine was 1/2" MDF, covered with bedliner for water resistance. Right now I have my mids in the factory door location in the S14. I liked the wood better. I might make a real baffle soon.

Thicker baffle = more depth to work with... but at some point you hit the door panel with the surround.
Definitely. Try using plexi. It wont absorb moisture like the MDF or wood.

[LA_phantom_240]

Definitely. Try using plexi. It wont absorb moisture like the MDF or wood.

I don't particularly care for plexiglass. It takes too much work to get it to not flex and rattle against the door. MDF just has a nice sound.

[g6civcx]

Got any suggestions? I'm about to buy this. http://www.crutchfield.com/p_1208900903/Universal-Plastic-Panel-Kit.html?tp=919

[druthafoo]

now what is this for?

[bejota180sx]

not a problem dude.. your jvc HU is probably 250w MAX so in reality youre probably only pushing around 25ish watts per speaker which is nothing great but definitely better than stock. As far as coaxials.. what car do you have? This will help me in determining speaker size too.
i checked its actually 200w HAHAHA its old nothing new i just dont have reason for the moment to change to anything with more power...
its a 240sx fastback, im thinking of going 2 6.5 in front and 2 6.5 in the rear but not stock location, my car is gutted and im going to cover the holes where the rear panels used to be with speakers...

[LA_phantom_240]

Got any suggestions? I'm about to buy this. Universal Plastic Panel Kit 12" x 12" at Crutchfield.com (http://www.crutchfield.com/p_1208900903/Universal-Plastic-Panel-Kit.html?tp=919)

total poop.

[druthafoo]

i checked its actually 200w HAHAHA its old nothing new i just dont have reason for the moment to change to anything with more power...
its a 240sx fastback, im thinking of going 2 6.5 in front and 2 6.5 in the rear but not stock location, my car is gutted and im going to cover the holes where the rear panels used to be with speakers...
oh hm.. honestly.. you should just be going 6.5 coaxes in the front and get just 4x6's in teh rear stock location.. if I can find my old 4x6's you can have em. Just pay for shipping and a small fee. Ima go look in the garage after this post and let you know.