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driftstyre
10-11-2007, 07:08 PM
Last week was a long week of ups and downs.

Our plan was to compete at Summit Point, stay the week in DC with some friends, visit the newer Air and Space Museum and then head to GTLive on Thursday. It was supposed to be a vacation pretty much.

We headed down to Summit Point in Old Mother Hubbard, towing the Maxi and Alex's Evo II Lancer. The tires I had saved up for and bought didn't arrive in time so I was on my well used avon 275s all around. The car has been handling very well after many test days trying new settings to achieve more rear grip. I drove the first day with the avons and then switched the rears to a used set of R6s after realizing that summit point requires a very good amount of low speed grip. The avons were't reaching optimal temperatures. Sunday morning came and I headed out for the morning test session with the R6s. The grip was much better and they were coming up to temp very quickly. I decided to bring Matt with me (our engineer/tuner) as he had never been in the car at speed and had always wanted to. Everything went fine for the good part of 6 laps. On the last turn before the main straight, I lost control and sent the car headon into the wall on the outside. My first reaction was to start laughing, then "well, so much for that". Matt entered his "You should probably turn off the kill switch".
Before
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8631-2/IMG_0456.jpg
After
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8698-2/IMG_0479+_Large_.jpg
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8715-2/IMG_0486+_Large_.jpg
Poor Maxi. She looked like some asshole smashed her face in with a hammer. I got towed back into the paddock and went over the damage. For the most part, the birdcage that my splitter mounts to absorbed a good amount of impact. The intercooler was twisted like a DNA strand. After replacing a broken -10 oil line, the car started right up (sans intercooler). Matt and Nick took the hood off and flattened it as much as possible. There was no engine or suspension damage so there was a chance we could get the car back out for the timed portion later in the day. We really just duct taped the sheite out of the entire front end (no bumper or splitter or any downforce at all...mainly just lift). I got a few practice laps in and there was a very obvious boost leak. I got some crazy instant weld stuff from my friend Burak and it sealed the giant crack in the intercooler. We got it together for the last timed session and I got some laps in. There were still some leaks in the intercooler and boost was limited to about 1.2 bar or ~250whp and slow response. The front end might have been lifting off the ground on the main straight because my steering inputs weren't doing anything until I slowed to about 80mph. On the Yump the car was seriously lifting and I crushed my titanium pipe from 3.2" to about 1.75-2" on landing.
Damn!! I think this might be the real strawberry face!
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8621-2/bill_air.jpg
It was fun none the less and thanks to Matt and Nick the car was able to compete. Alex had an equally depressing weekend as the headgasket on his Evo let go and he took the day pulling the head and getting ready for a fun week of unexpected spending and labor.

Monday we headed to DC with our friend Burak who took us around and helped us brainstorm the rebuilding of my front end and Alex's headgasket. Mach V is right near Dulles so Alex headed over there and we got a tour from Dan (a really cool guy) who got a headgasket overnighted and sent us to the machine shop down the road.

This is part one. I am going to the bar and will finish the rest in a bit.
-Bill

gotta240
10-11-2007, 07:23 PM
DOPE ASS PIC.

Had your aero been on, do you think the car still would have lifted like that? Or was it just the course/too much speed?

nissandr1ft
10-11-2007, 07:54 PM
Props to you guys for getting it back together. I saw it at VIR, and didn't remember the front end as taped up as it was... now I know why.

driftstyre
10-11-2007, 10:36 PM
Before I went off, with the front aero on, it was a very smooth lift off of all four wheels and short as well. The car would lift for a quick second, lose rear traction, hit the rev limiter and then gain traction again. Without the splitter/undertray/bumper, the front would lift high and hold it until the bottom of the hill. I am really mad at myself for not getting incar video as it probably would have looked as cool as it felt.

I'll write about VIR tomarrow morning. I am going to head to bed now.

statik
10-12-2007, 07:50 AM
wow, props for macgyvering the car back together for a few more laps

Suk02Si
10-12-2007, 08:41 AM
Crazy, that's an epic pic.

Tearlessj
10-12-2007, 09:29 AM
You have a high res of the last pic? Itd make a great wall paper.

steve shadows
10-12-2007, 09:51 AM
very cool, ive been following DSG since the beginning great work guys. keep it up.

axiomatik
10-12-2007, 10:07 AM
man, awesome story and awesome pics. sorry it didn't go too well for you.

adrians_s13
10-12-2007, 12:20 PM
I liked the FN's better when they were green, lol... whenever I see green wheels on a white car, I think DSG...

however, those pics look bad asssssssss

Slidin240Wayz
10-12-2007, 01:55 PM
That's sucks. Gotta bring it back better!

driftstyre
10-12-2007, 04:58 PM
So,
Tuesday, Ron and I headed up to Chaser Aero in MD to get a bumper. We had to figure out how to get the bumper in a caged wrx. It took about 7 different positions to get it right but we ended up just barely squeezing it in.
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8810-2/IMG_0535+_Large_.jpg
Burak took us to his friend's shop near dulles and they let me use their welder to brace up the front. I tried to straighten the splitter/undertray as much as possible but it was pretty f-ed up. We got everything ready by Wednesday night and were ready to go. Thursday had been marked as the day to visit the Air/Space Museum which was absolutely retarded. This is the newer one at Dulles that housed some large ass things inside; SR71, Concorde, 767, Enola Gay, and the space shuttle. The SR71 they have is the one that broke the cross country record...LA to DC in 1:07. Some pics from the action.

SR71-my favorite
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8910-2/IMG_0648+_Large_.jpg

Ron is fluent in Japanese and informed us of some of the historic WWII Japanese planes.

Nakajima piloted bombs "Ohka" (Nakajima is now FHI/Subaru)
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8886-2/IMG_0593+_Large_.jpg

Aichi Seiran (Clear-sky storm) aka "Rex"
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8882-2/IMG_0589+_Large_.jpg

http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8858-2/IMG_0565+_Large_.jpg

Um...yeah, thats a rocket booster from the space shuttle
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8894-2/IMG_0616+_Large_.jpg

Vulcan Mini w/o the GE motor (the maxi will be getting one of these for the tail section)
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8914-2/IMG_0650+_Large_.jpg

So, we headed down to VIR Friday morning. We unloaded our cars, went to the drivers meeting and then headed out for some laps. The car was down on power as there were still a few leaks in the cores of the intercooler. They were very small and not weldable so I had to just drive with them. The boost was 1.2 bar and response wasn't bad. I didn't want to overspin the turbo so I kept it at that level. The car was actually very good around the course and after a few changes in camber the tire temps were where they should be. Saturday came and I gave a few spectators rides. My Dad had come down for the weekend and he got a ride as well. He was really in disbelief at how fast the car went through the uphill esses and we had to pull in after 4 laps as his "stomach hurt" hahaha. It was really great to have him come in the car as he could see the car's performance after seeing me work on it for hours on end.
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8936-2/IMG_0687+_Large_.jpg
Alex's manifold cracked on Saturday morning and he was really just frustrated about the whole week so we decided to pack it up on Saturday night. I got 3laps in for the timed session and just decided to keep them as my final times. I ended up winning with a time that I think wasn't too good but I am glad I got an Unlimited RWD win. We were feeling the pressure of being away from the shop for a week and were broke so we wanted to get back asap.
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8952-2/IMG_0692+_Large_.jpg
It was a decent week but the car will need more power for next season. I'm not sure about what turbo I would like but I am leaning toward a GT3076. 425whp is the goal with up to 475 at higher boost. The handling is very good now but springs will be changed and the shocks will be revalved to suit.

ThatGuy
10-12-2007, 05:15 PM
It's a shame you didn't get a pic of the 4-wheel lift off while the aero was still on. That would've been a kick-ass picture.

This car never ceases to amaze me. :rawk:

sean350z
10-12-2007, 05:22 PM
Another pic of the carnage...glad to see you guys got to get out at VIR

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/969/dentsportgu9.jpg

chuy
10-12-2007, 08:11 PM
Love your attitude towards you hitting the wall. I have the same and Id think alot of others will have the same attitude though.

driftstyre
10-13-2007, 07:20 AM
It's a shame you didn't get a pic of the 4-wheel lift off while the aero was still on. That would've been a kick-ass picture.

This car never ceases to amaze me. :rawk:

There is a lot of droop in the rear which kind sucks but I think there is a picture of it somewhere:) I like your new photo!

Love your attitude towards you hitting the wall. I have the same and Id think alot of others will have the same attitude though.

I figured it would happen sooner or later. I really wanted to re-do the front end as well:) It will be better than before, more usable and easily accessable.

Thanks for the photo Sean350z. You can almost see my crack there. Look at the bend in the intercooler outlet pipe. That thing has seen some good use, time for a new one though...or used.

There are some top secret parts going on the car for next year. I'll have some updates soon.

ThatGuy
10-13-2007, 10:45 AM
I like your new photo!

You mean the one in my Signature?

I actually took that myself while I was driving my car back from the shop. I'm really glad I was able to catch the reflection of the road in my Oakleys. :cool:

I can't wait to see the new front end put together. :rawk:

PoorMans180SX
10-13-2007, 01:06 PM
I love that car so much. It inspires me everytime I see it.

Can't wait for further developments, they're always so trick.

Pstl_pete
10-13-2007, 08:48 PM
Heres some photos of the car from GT Live from Modified.com

http://gallery.modified.com/gallery2/main.php/d/103779-1/IMG_0268.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/gallery2/main.php/d/103761-1/IMG_0244.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/gallery2/main.php/d/103967-1/IMG_0410.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/gallery2/main.php/d/103969-1/IMG_0411.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/gallery2/main.php/d/103971-1/IMG_0412.jpg
http://gallery.modified.com/gallery2/main.php/d/103793-1/IMG_0283.jpg

Daryl
10-15-2007, 02:35 PM
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/8621-2/bill_air.jpg
-Bill
Sucks, but the car still looks great lifting! Nice GT wing! I see you made the right choice on one ;)

steve shadows
10-15-2007, 03:18 PM
It was a decent week but the car will need more power for next season. I'm not sure about what turbo I would like but I am leaning toward a GT3076. 425whp is the goal with up to 475 at higher boost. The handling is very good now but springs will be changed and the shocks will be revalved to suit.

3071R should be capable of this with the righ cam combo and higher boost.

Im close to 430(DJ number 390 on DD) whp at 17 psi on pump gas with my 3076R aiming at street tire class time attack around the south west next season.

full boost is 4500 rpms, peak torque is around 5500 also

driftstyre
10-16-2007, 06:54 AM
Daryl
In the airborne pic from summit point the car looks like sloth from the goonies.
I love the wing.

Thanks for posting those pics Pete! Damn, the new spring rates are definitely a must for next year. There is so much white duct tape on the front end it looks like one piece.


Steve,
I will be swapping my step II 264s out for some 272s and will probably do the matt V. solid lifter conversion. If I have full boost by 4500 that will be fine. With the dogbox, I'll setup the autronic flat shift and not have any loss of boost between shifts. Now I just need to find a strain gauge with amplifier within my budget (which is probably $2). Long tube 4-1 with the 3076 is the goal as of now.
Here is the car as of now.
http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/d/9109-2/DSCF4590.JPG

3071R should be capable of this with the righ cam combo and higher boost.

Im close to 430(DJ number 390 on DD) whp at 17 psi on pump gas with my 3076R aiming at street tire class time attack around the south west next season.

full boost is 4500 rpms, peak torque is around 5500 also

PoorMans180SX
10-16-2007, 04:17 PM
No twin-scroll then? Full-Race even makes twin-scrolls now!

I mean, why not as long as you're making a new one. Any way to pick up more response, right?

Symyn240
10-19-2007, 04:52 PM
This makes me sad, but im excited to see the revamp, good luck!