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INeedNewTires

10-04-2007, 02:47 PM

Alright guys, got my car tuned by tony @ T1 Racing here in dallas tx, he's supposed to be really good with hondas and tuning but i am dissapointed in my numbers. ill list my mods and you guys tell me if im about right on the power or need some more tuning.

S14 SR
Crower rods
Weisco forged pistons bored .020 over.
HKS cams, step 2 (264 i think?)
rebuilt head
GT2871R
stock intake and exhaust manifold
Hybrid IC
Apexi intake
Z32 MAF
740cc injectors
walbro 255 fuel pump
Apexi 3 in exhaust
Greddy elbow and down pipe
megan test pipe
Tuned with Apexi power FC

So at 1.3 BAR she made 363 whp and 353 tq

What do you guys think? I was hoping for at least 380, maby closer to 400.

My next few things are going to be UR crank pulley, tubular exhaust manifold which should put me alot closer or maby over 400 whp. But maby i just need to get it tuned a bit better? I do live in tx and the air here is hotter and thinner, so that may play a part but shit, i am dissapointed. let me know what your opinions are, and any maby running a similar setup? whatcha think?

gotparts?

10-04-2007, 02:50 PM

good numbers i think for texas weather. and the manifold will make a difference on power.

unit_121

10-04-2007, 02:55 PM

statik

10-04-2007, 03:05 PM

agreed, intake and exhaust manifolds. post up the dyno

Tops*

10-04-2007, 03:08 PM

The majority of the people I see running the GT28 setup are pushing somewhere in the ballpark of 350-375whp. Is there a reason you're still using the stock intake manifold?

So...you're telling us you're not satisfied with 363whp/353tq? Do you seriously need anymore in a S14? You're where I'll hopefully be a year from now.

GL with the rest of your build.

slimcat7m3

10-04-2007, 03:11 PM

what ar on that turbo? If its a 64 you should be about right on with stock intake and exhaust manifolds.

steve shadows

10-04-2007, 03:27 PM

was this on a dyno jet?

either way thats right where you should be actually maybe less, thats a great number for your setup.

if your car really had that much hp you would be complaining about needing to drive around are larger tires possibly aired down.

If you replace the intake manifold, take it to a nissan tuner you should be able to hit 400.

.86 is capable of 420 whp (on a shitty fucking dynojet).

You might only have 256 step 1 cams, how is it that you dont know what cams you have...thats kind of wierd.

post the graph up!

INeedNewTires

10-04-2007, 03:28 PM

ill get the dyno posted as soon as i can. Manifolds are to come but need to do more suspension/safety mods first. ive got an oil cooler on the way, and catch tank. I'm thinking about re-locating the air filter down into the area right in front of the driver tire fender well. looks like alot of good airflow down there, plus colder air, im just worried about sucking up water..... will address that later.

Tops* Yes i love the power i'm making, shouldnt need more right? well theres no such thing as too much power hahaha, you'll see, once you complete your setup and drive it for a little while, you'll be thirsty for more

Slimcat- yes the AR is .64 so i guess im about right on.

What about the whole pully thing? what kind of gains can i expect to see on this setup? thanks for the input guys

steve shadows

10-04-2007, 03:29 PM

what are you trying to do with the car?

You should be tuning for power band not complaining about peak numbers if your drifting.

If you want to drag race the thing go 3076r with nitrous or gt35r +n20.

if you want to street race go 3071R with N20.

INeedNewTires

10-04-2007, 03:35 PM

mostly track and some drift. not worried about drag nor street race. I just thought that after spending all that money i'd see closer to 400 but maby not, im not unhappy with my car, just a little dissapointed, maby i needed to do more research first.

obviously powerband was what i was going for, and quick spool thats why i decided on the 2871R. it does spool really fast and feels pretty linear as well.

Which should i do first, intake or exhaust manifold.

steve shadows

10-04-2007, 03:55 PM

exaust manifold does close to nothing.

do the greddy IM, then get a haltech

OBEEWON

10-04-2007, 04:10 PM

You can definitely make a little over 400 on that turbo.

Nikeboy355

10-04-2007, 05:32 PM

steve shadows

10-04-2007, 05:35 PM

I think the power looks correct... Especially torque...
It's a stock SR with larger pistons... no cams, valvetrain, or manifolds...

We expect our margin of error to be anywhere from 10-20% from comparing so many different dynos, operators, and dyno technicians/calibrators...

Post up the graph when you have it...

HKS cams, step 2 (264 i think?)

even still I think this is right on. If he had a standalone tuned on a brake eddy dyno, with race gas hed be on his way to 400+ whp oh and greddy IM.

if your dissapointed wait until you strap it to a dynodynamics. I twould probably only show up at like 315whp\

If you just want big numbers get a gt35 R and 272 cams. nice peaky, big numbers, you can do 400whp at 15psi

Tom Ngan

10-04-2007, 08:11 PM

Intake manifold for sure!

smelly240

10-04-2007, 08:23 PM

yeah - usually cams and intake manifold are good for at least 50heeps... you already have cams (or some sorta cam change thing happenin there) so u can expect somthin from a intake mani.

harangatang

10-04-2007, 08:26 PM

intake/exhaust manifold should help a lot..
The numbers sound pretty good to me for teh setup.. but if interested in another tune:
since your also in dallas.. go check out GS Tuner: http://www.gstuner.us/
Guys awesome, took my car to him b/c I couldnt get it running.. Top notch stuff.
And I really dont like Alamo in Arlington, but Ive heard they can pull some crazy numbers out of their ass tuning cars. They had a s14 w/a rb25 stock engine and turbo, they made 400+whp.

my 2 1/2 cents..

cyclone92692

10-04-2007, 11:24 PM

that turbo is too small get a bigger turbo and a standalone. you NEED a stand alone and a BIGGER turbo

jackal264

10-05-2007, 04:48 AM

with an intake mani won't he end up losing torque? or have i been led astray?

codyace

10-05-2007, 07:45 AM

Get a AEM Standalone, I bet you would make way more power with the set up that system makes. You should upgrade your intake and exhaust manifolds for better flowing air. Maybe applify your ignition system,

Intake only. Keep the stocker. Ideal gas law is your friend. And to hell with a Standalone at that power level...ROM tunes provide you with better drivability and equal power.

what ar on that turbo? If its a 64 you should be about right on with stock intake and exhaust manifolds.

Agreed. Certainly believe that a Greddy IM, some Extrude hone for the Ex Mani and turbine housing, and some tuning it will be damn near my numbers, if not possibly higher.

ill get the dyno posted as soon as i can. Manifolds are to come but need to do more suspension/safety mods first. ive got an oil cooler on the way, and catch tank. I'm thinking about re-locating the air filter down into the area right in front of the driver tire fender well. looks like alot of good airflow down there, plus colder air, im just worried about sucking up water..... will address that later.

My intake is right behind the drivers side headlamp.

Tops* Yes i love the power i'm making, shouldnt need more right? well theres no such thing as too much power hahaha, you'll see, once you complete your setup and drive it for a little while, you'll be thirsty for more

With the power you're making, you will be an ANIMAL on the roadcourse with it. Man, you have no clue how fast 360 whp is until you put it in a little S chassis and go beat up on Vettes with it.

What about the whole pully thing? what kind of gains can i expect to see on this setup? thanks for the input guys

Nothing substantial. Only reason I have it, is because I lost the stocker. I also would suggest getting a underdriven water pump pulley to help with cavatation at higher RPMS.

mostly track and some drift. not worried about drag nor street race. I just thought that after spending all that money i'd see closer to 400 but maby not, im not unhappy with my car, just a little dissapointed, maby i needed to do more research first.

The only way you can make 400/400 cheap is through an LS1. Anything else (especially a 4 cylinder) is going to cost you a dollar or 2.

Which should i do first, intake or exhaust manifold.

Greddy IM.

You can definitely make a little over 400 on that turbo.

Would be nice, but there are only 1 or 2 of us with that power on the .64 yet (that have posted per say)...I think he'd be right there with us.

that turbo is too small get a bigger turbo and a standalone. you NEED a stand alone and a BIGGER turbo

Um, who are you? Bigger turbo? Pfft. Have you ever driven a properly setup 'small turbo' sr before? Don't hate on it till you have, as I'm confident you'd be pleasently surprized.

steve shadows

10-05-2007, 10:10 AM

hahah

"you need a bigger turbo"

thats just funny to me

hes right use a t88d, great for drifting :ugh:

s86d

10-05-2007, 11:06 AM

Would be nice, but there are only 1 or 2 of us with that power on the .64 yet (that have posted per say)...I think he'd be right there with us.

with a .64 and s14 notch you are dead on with those numbers. What was the a/f?

You would have had the numbers you wanted on a bigger turbine ar housing, but it's still a very fun car to drive right?

INeedNewTires

10-05-2007, 01:17 PM

On the cams thing, the only reason i am not 100% sure is because i bought the head built already. So the guy i bought it from, who i do trust, said they were HKS 264's. valvetrain was re-built but not beef'd up.

Codyace- thanks for the nice breakdown and answering all my questions... Didnt quite get this quote though "Intake only. Keep the stocker. Ideal gas law is your friend." does that mean keep the stock exhaust manifold and get the greddy Intake manifold. From what ive researched the exhaust manifold will do little for power but imporove throttle response and reduce lag. correct? and what is the "ideal gas law"? ............ cant wait to beat up on some vettes though, your right about that.

Definitely dont want a 'bigger turbo' i am extremely satisfied with the power i'm making, again i just thought the numbers would be a bit higher but i guess not, seems like about all of you say i'm right on so i'm happy. its like one of my friends said, its just a number, not like its any slower!

S86d- the A/f on my greddy gauge reads 8:1 @ full throttle, and stays around 11:1 under normal conditions, when i get the dyno graph ill know a more accrate readout....... and yes, it is a HELL of a lot of fun to drive

steve shadows

10-05-2007, 03:54 PM

. valvetrain was re-built but not beef'd up.

ok that means nothing

projectdrifter

10-05-2007, 04:20 PM

hahah

"you need a bigger turbo"

thats just funny to me

hes right use a t88d, great for drifting :ugh:

the re d1gp rx7 uses a t88.. and its for drifting..:bigok:

projectdrifter

10-05-2007, 04:23 PM

back o topictho. 360/350 is a great setup man very square hp/torque car must be a blast to drive. a buddy of mine just put down 397 and 310torque.
id honestly be happier with your setup much more rounded. and he has a few parts you dont. id assume yours would have a lil more umph as you have more torque than he does. just my 2 cents. congrats on the numbers tho.

daryl337

10-05-2007, 04:25 PM

Rx7's also rev higher than most Sr's which means you have a longer power band to play with if you keep the motor in low gears.

Grenade180sx

10-05-2007, 04:51 PM

keep the stock mani and port it! i can bet it will make more power then a tubular one. plus no cracking, cheaper and lower under hood temps!

codyace

10-05-2007, 04:51 PM

with a .64 and s14 notch you are dead on with those numbers. What was the a/f?

You would have had the numbers you wanted on a bigger turbine ar housing, but it's still a very fun car to drive right?[/QUOTE]

Mine made 400/330 with an a/f of 11.7ish at WOT. .64 housing for life.

Fantastically fun. Instant low end fun, no waiting for power, nothing. It's literally like driving a V8 car. The only thing in my experience to have better instant response (this side of a bike @ rpm) is my buddies Turbo 331 mustang...but then again, it's got an itty bitty t66 on the 5.3/5.4 hehe.

Didnt quite get this quote though "Intake only. Keep the stocker. Ideal gas law is your friend." does that mean keep the stock exhaust manifold and get the greddy Intake manifold. From what ive researched the exhaust manifold will do little for power but imporove throttle response and reduce lag. correct? and what is the "ideal gas law"? ............ cant wait to beat up on some vettes though, your right about that.

The stock exhaust manifold, which I highly recommend to get extrude honed and swain coated, will spool all t2 flanged turbos faster than any tubular style manifold. While you do risk to loose some upper RPM power from it, the gain in low end/midrange torque greatly outweighs the slight HP you may or may not potentially gain. Wait till you get some heat in her, then you'll really get that little turbo spinning :D

its like one of my friends said, its just a number, not like its any slower!

Exactly! Who cares about numbers, as long as it's fun and quick :D

steve shadows

10-05-2007, 05:19 PM

the re d1gp rx7 uses a t88.. and its for drifting..:bigok:

its also a rotary ; )

GSXRJJordan

10-05-2007, 05:21 PM

Is it just me, or did this thread attract more mis-informed/idiotic zilvians than most?

Codyace secretly works for Garrett's T2 division :)

Yes, as stated, you need to post your graph, but those numbers are good. I can't believe your A/F's would ever get into the 8:1's, even at full throttle... that's incredibly rich. Either you've got a shit ton of timing in there and need that much fuel to keep from detonating, or your wideband is off.

Get that Greddy intake manifold. That'll give you the power up top you're looking for.

What you do with the exhaust manifold is up to you: Full Race makes a T2 bottom mount tubular mani that'll make more power, or Tomei's Expreme mani is a larger diameter mani that's modeled after the stocker. Or, you can do Cody's port/coating to make the stocker flow like the Expreme.

Post that graph. It's gonna be sexy, I know it.

heychris

10-05-2007, 05:54 PM

I'm actually pretty intrigued by this thread...Coupla questions though

Could a T03/04 hybrid on a .6 ish AR post these numbers?
Sounds like the stock SR ex. manifold manifold rocks, how far off the KA is it?

Thanks
CH

blitzkrgCT9A

10-05-2007, 07:57 PM

Please post dyno graphs w/ a/f ratio.. if your a/f ratio is within 11:1 that range, then the tune should be good.

btw, what dyno is this? Dynojet numbers tend to be higher than Mustang or DynoDynamics. Dynojet has the option to calibrate the reading to set as load based, but a lot of tuners or dyno operators tend not to do this because most customers just want the "numbers". If the load based option is inserted, the hp number could be lower.

codyace

10-06-2007, 09:30 AM

Is it just me, or did this thread attract more mis-informed/idiotic zilvians than most?

I was thinking that, however what can you do?

Codyace secretly works for Garrett's T2 division :)

I wish I could! In all honestly though, (this is all from the FWD Sentra crowd), alot of my good friends do personally know the guy who designed the GT28RS, and as odd as this may sound, the turbo was specificallly designed around the SR20 in particular, and most smaller engines also responded well. The initial test Sentra had a Spud, JWT goodies (ECU, kit, and S3 cams) and worked excellent. The only downfall being a slight lack of top end, but for the ulimate midrange car, there was no need.

So when It came down time to throw my kit, I took alot of the FWD information, compared alot of 28RS graphs with some of the newwer 2871r .64 graphs (with and without intake manifolds) and the choice simply jumped out at me after seeing the 2871 .64 spool equal the .86 spud, but not die off uptop. When setting up my ECU through JWT, with mods, my turbo choice in their opinion (Well Clark essentially did say the turbo was unballanced in his mind, but as was the 28rs, but that was beside the point he also said) was the best 'all around' choice to have made.

A month or so later, I had had it all together, and even now almost 2 years later I haven't changed a damn thing on my setup...and it's still dead fast for what it is. Nothing to exotic, everything can be bought off the shelf, and numbers are easily replicable.

whew, sorry for the little story haha.

that much fuel to keep from detonating, or your wideband is off.

This is my vote. 8:1 is ludacris.

Get that Greddy intake manifold. That'll give you the power up top you're looking for.

You betcha, that thing is tits for the little turbos...and at the cost, you can't go wrong!

Or, you can do Cody's port/coating to make the stocker flow like the Expreme.

The best thing about the stocker: It won't crack! hehe.

I'm actually pretty intrigued by this thread...Coupla questions though

Could a T03/04 hybrid on a .6 ish AR post these numbers?

Yes. AGP's 50 trim is (IMO) the t3/t4 to get for both SR and KA applications.

Sounds like the stock SR ex. manifold manifold rocks, how far off the KA is it?

If going t3/t4, you'd need a top mount for the KA. IIRC I remember seeing a guy on the Altima forums using a GTiR manifold on his altima, but he had to have the flanges cut off, and the KA ones welded on.

cyclone92692

10-09-2007, 09:19 AM

QUOTE:
Um, who are you? Bigger turbo? Pfft. Have you ever driven a properly setup 'small turbo' sr before? Don't hate on it till you have, as I'm confident you'd be pleasently surprized.

no i have not driven a small turbo SR20 set up before. I assumed he is looking for ALOT more power like 450 or 500 WHP. so i guess high 300s to 400 whp the garrrett 2871R is the right set up. but even with that set up he should be able to get low to mid 400whp. I'm running FMIC with T25 and debating if I should go with T28 or the 2871R. The T28 is direct bolt on 2871R needs a litte modification. So i'm wondering if the 2871R is worth the trouble on a stock motor set up because i'm not looking into building my bottom end anytime soon

steve shadows

10-09-2007, 10:51 AM

^ s15 turbo + Haltech + me dyno tuning

done 320 whp on high boost with 264 step 1 cams

KA-T_240

10-09-2007, 11:19 AM

I know a local guy that might be lurking on these forums that has made 486whp IIRC from the .86ar, with a 50 shot. he also ran [email protected] with that setup.

steve shadows

10-09-2007, 11:28 AM

rumors are always fun

nitrous is a 3rd power adder.

.86 is capable of 420 whp with the right tuning

(but only on a dynojet :keke:)

cyclone92692

10-09-2007, 11:27 PM

^ s15 turbo + Haltech + me dyno tuning

done 320 whp on high boost with 264 step 1 cams

Haltech is a nice system but not as plug and play friendly as the power FC or the EMS. i prefer the power FC due to the lower cost....

By the way how much boost are you talking about when you say high..... and i'm not so sure cams will do much of any help with just an S15 turbo.. not sure if its worth the investment

codyace

10-09-2007, 11:59 PM

but even with that set up he should be able to get low to mid 400whp.

No way at all, not with .64 housing...unless running 20+ psi of boost (I'd say 22-24 should be good for 430-460 whp)

^ s15 turbo + Haltech + me dyno tuning

done 320 whp on high boost with 264 step 1 cams

That car would be balls fun all day, and click off great times at the track (with slicks)

I know a local guy that might be lurking on these forums that has made 486whp IIRC from the .86ar, with a 50 shot. he also ran [email protected] with that setup.

Wasn't member 'Gatecrasher' from FreshAlloy up in that power level??

.86 is capable of 420 whp with the right tuning

I'd hope so.

(but only on a dynojet :keke:)

Your dynojet hate game is to much hehe.

Haltech is a nice system but not as plug and play friendly as the power FC or the EMS. i prefer the power FC due to the lower cost....

ROM tune anyone, ROM tune ???

By the way how much boost are you talking about when you say high.....

18-20 psi.

and i'm not so sure cams will do much of any help with just an S15 turbo.. not sure if its worth the investment

Good cams make a difference with any SR20 buildup, even N/A. I think the best thing out there for anything side side of 450 whp setups is the Jim Wolf Technologies S3 camshaft.

water

10-10-2007, 07:11 AM

As everyone else has said, an intake mani will work wonders for this setup. Your numbers are not low at all considering you're using a .64ar. An exhaust manifold is a waste of time/money IMO - keep the stocker. Personally I think you're too caught up with the numbers. Don't worry, most people are. Instead of worrying about peak hp numbers, check out your tq curve. Is it flat? Are you a/f's good? If everything checks out and you're butt dyno is happy with the power, you should be happy too.

If you just love to tinker (I know I do), you could consider maximizing the efficiency of your current setup. Like getting the turbine housing extrude honed and welding on an ext wastegate to the stock manifold. That should free up some power, improve spool, and increase top end. On my last setup, I had a Peak Boost top mount and GT3071r. I experimented with coatings over the turbine and exh manifold. I ended up with a setup that made 360 whp at 14psi, had desert flat tq curve, and reached peak boost pretty damn fast.

steve shadows

10-10-2007, 09:38 AM

Haltech is a nice system but not as plug and play friendly as the power FC or the EMS. i prefer the power FC due to the lower cost....

By the way how much boost are you talking about when you say high..... and i'm not so sure cams will do much of any help with just an S15 turbo.. not sure if its worth the investment

Yeah it is, its actually easier for plug and play and you can re-use it on any other application later on because the stupid plug isnt molded into the unit.

It uses a patch harness, you just plug it into your stock wiring harness ecu plug and the other end plugs into your haltech.

That way your 1-1400 dollar investment can be used on future projects.

It is worth the investment, Im not going to explain phsyics but the gt28r (s15 turbo) will make more power farther up top with a set of 260 cams or 264 if you go HKS, you just dont need a lot of lift, your trying to stretch the usable torque not increase air intake at the valve per ms.

AEM is actually more expensive with the same features than Haltech and the UEGO is a pile of shit as well.

Power FC is only cheap used or on ebay and is not a full standalone. Its harder to tune and required data logit to even make it tuner friendly in the first place. (thats another 300 dollar investment), unless you live across the street from XS engineering then expect 300 dollars for 2-3 hours of tuning on a shitty dynojet.

Load bearing Dyno + me, whole power band and map tuned even in part throttle light load portions, plus it only takes me 1-2 hours if the car is prepped right before we jump on the DD>

anyways blow you money on whatever is best advirtised in Super Street, I dont really care.

water

10-10-2007, 09:59 AM

I don't know how you can say a Power FC is not a standalone. Its a fully programmable EMS, whether you like the features or not. Its definitely easy to tune and cheaper than most standalone solutions. Many people actually prefer the MAF setup as opposed to a MAP. And as you pointed out, ebay is your friend when looking for one. On my last setup, my PFC + datalogit set me back just over $600 total. Not too bad. OK, so you can't take it out and plug it into your next project. Well you also won't be able to sell your car for very much money if it doesn't have an ECU to run it. Sure, the car could be parted out but parting out an entire car just to transfer an EMS seems a bit redundant to me. That amount of work is time wasted and as we all know, time = money. Anyway, I won't disagree that a Haltech is a good choice when considering an engine management solution but I think your outlook on other EMS's is a tad ethnocentric.

heychris

10-10-2007, 10:37 AM

[quote=water;1581580] Many people actually prefer the MAF setup as opposed to a MAP.

Sorry to hijack this a bit. I'm new to 240's, but have some pretty good experience with Mustangs....I've been a bit confused as to why someone would want to convert away from the MAF. With the 5.0 the MAF is pretty fantastic (at least on the street) and as a mod, changing one (along w the TB) is a proven, emissions legal HP gain.....

So could someone please explain why I would want to convert away vs. going to a bigger MAF (who makes these vs Z32-Cobra) and is there anyone making larger TB's for the 240 (KADE)?

Thanks

lucky7

10-10-2007, 10:47 AM

And I really dont like Alamo in Arlington, but Ive heard they can pull some crazy numbers out of their ass tuning cars. They had a s14 w/a rb25 stock engine and turbo, they made 400+whp.

just so you know. those numbers are nowhere near realistic. you arent going much past 300 on the stock turbo.

water

10-10-2007, 11:09 AM

So could someone please explain why I would want to convert away vs. going to a bigger MAF (who makes these vs Z32-Cobra) and is there anyone making larger TB's for the 240 (KADE)?

Thanks

I don't know much about the KA aftermarket but I'm pretty sure there are no bolt on replacement TB's. Most people I think just fab up the intake manifold to accept a q45 TB (which is 90mm). As for eliminating the MAF - many believe the MAF to be an airflow restriction. MAF's are also more sensitive to leaks, cost more to replace, and can limit output (although a z32 maf will take you beyond 500whp).

lucky7

10-10-2007, 11:20 AM

i know that a Q45 TB is a DIRECT bolt onto a RB25 Greddy IM. no idea about SR's, but it could be the same. if so, that could be helpful. haha.

silviaSGP06

10-10-2007, 08:00 PM

...
And I really dont like Alamo in Arlington, but Ive heard they can pull some crazy numbers out of their ass tuning cars. They had a s14 w/a rb25 stock engine and turbo, they made 400+whp.

my 2 1/2 cents..

ok what?

Yeah Lucky7 is right

you cant make 400 on a rb25 with a stock turbo. The turbine wheel(hot side) will shatter if boosted past 14psi in a short period of time, and even at 14psi it still makes about 300hp(+/- 20ish) but 400"plus!" to the wheels on the stock turbo is simply not right.

essplain please:tweak: lol

INeedNewTires

10-11-2007, 10:04 PM

AND NOW FOR WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR.......

The a/f ratio was around 11.5-11.8. It is on a dynojet, and here is the graph, i'm having trouble uploading it from a URL ( im using kodak gallery, dont know if that works) if someone could help me figure that out that would be greeeeeat.

http://www.kodakgallery.com/PhotoView.jsp?&collid=317055424110.590418724110.1192160616303&photoid=885439646110&folderid=0&view=1&page=1&sort_order=0&albumsperpag e=&navfolderid=2007

Oh, and by the way it has a 9.1 compression ratio now with the new rods and pistons....

s13rookie

10-11-2007, 11:14 PM

^^^^ its showing the member log in page

Edit: If you want, email me the pics and ill put them up, either that or use photobucket or something

zellogg3

10-12-2007, 05:44 AM

turbo 2 small,get gt30r,s4 cams,peakboost manifold,q45 tb needs to be moded to work on sr and aem call glen be in 600hp

ps you also need a sec fuel pump and fuel line

codyace

10-12-2007, 09:25 AM

turbo 2 small,get gt30r,s4 cams,peakboost manifold,q45 tb needs to be moded to work on sr and aem call glen be in 600hp

ps you also need a sec fuel pump and fuel line

If you have nothing of importance to add to threads, please stay out. The only thing you get credit for is mentioning JWT S4 cams for bigger turbos.

FWIW: Gt30r and 600 whp? LOL. Bozo.

2871r .64 FTW when it comes to fun street cars this side of 400whp.

steve shadows

10-12-2007, 09:57 AM

turbo 2 small,get gt30r,s4 cams,peakboost manifold,q45 tb needs to be moded to work on sr and aem call glen be in 600hp

ps you also need a sec fuel pump and fuel line

thats what i did ; )

prepare for lag until 4600rpms though

then massive power from then until 8k.

muwahahahah

burning out at 100 mph on aired down r-comps muwahaha

cody hes kind of right, 600 BHP is capable with the gt3076R.

Not with the 3071R

both are 30R though ;)

SiI40sx

10-12-2007, 10:03 AM

anyways blow you money on whatever is best advirtised in Super Street, I dont really care.

Dude I see people putting your quotes in there sigs all the time, your becoming famous with your lines, lol......

steve shadows

10-12-2007, 10:40 AM

here's a new epic one.

people complaining about dyno, its like why dont you take the sr out of your car, attatch it to a radio flyer, fix a fleshlight to the inside of said radio flyer, and affix a see saw so you can fuck the flesh light while revving the sr with your hand (manual throttle) and launch yourself into a messy orgasmic 400HP/kilo experience of road rash and entrails blown cleanly across the freeway.

You could also try hangliding after snorting an 8 ball of cocaine

about the same feeling as 500whp s13

zellogg3

10-12-2007, 11:43 AM

water

10-12-2007, 12:14 PM

For that kind of power I'd just go GT35r but to each their own I suppose.

Either way, for all around fun I highly recommend a GT3071r. I really miss that setup and if (when haha) the power bug bites me again, I'll likely go the same route. Maybe a twin scroll this time though. :)

steve shadows

10-12-2007, 12:19 PM

i am not going to start drama i'am new here ,this is the setup that made 622 on sr20det build bottom end stock bore build head,s4 cams, gt3076r ,peakboost manifold ,44mm wastegate, greddy intake,1000cc injectors 2 fuel pump also fuel line mods
aem standalone tuned by glen.

fact

who the fuck is glen?

feel free to post the Dyno.

I know the gt3076R is 500whp capable (ive done close) on the .63 housing. >82 gives a little more breathing room

622 is waaaaaay out there though. I had a problem with Baro on a dyno skewing my numbers, maybe "Glen" had the same problem with his numbers jet

Theoretically I could see high 500 whp ranges possible on high boost on a 2.2 liter SR on race gas. But that would be the absolute limit.

zellogg3

10-12-2007, 12:51 PM

this is glens work

http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/nissan-sale/389784-sr20det-s14-turbo-manifold-stainless.html

who's glen glen is a guy that flys all offer the world tunes cars including hulk hogans cars

dyno sheet will be up soon

steve shadows

10-12-2007, 12:52 PM

ok well thats nice.

so whats up with that dyno graph, pictures of the gt30 sr 600whp car etc?

Thats a pretty tall claim you made here.

water

10-12-2007, 01:01 PM

Yeah Martin from XAT took the 35r (.63 ar) on a 86.5mm built SR to 543whp and that was at what like 30psi iirc. I don't see how a 30r could compete.

steve shadows

10-12-2007, 01:04 PM

Yeah Martin from XAT took the 35r (.63 ar) on a 86.5mm built SR to 543whp and that was at what like 30psi iirc. I don't see how a 30r could compete.

you can make 600whp on Dynojet (what Martin uses) at 30psi with a standalone and actual tuning done on the Dyno Dynamics Dyno.

That number was actually a little low imo, but great for ROM tune by far!

520whp has been done and can be done with .63 housing gt3076r on sr20det with stock compression and bore/stroke. Ive seen it done twice on FA on DJ read outs at like 25-26 psi of boost.

zellogg3

10-12-2007, 01:05 PM

my bad he said gt3082r

water

10-12-2007, 01:07 PM

you can make 600whp on Dynojet (what Martin uses) at 30psi with a standalone and actual tuning done on the Dyno Dynamics Dyno.

That number was actually a little low imo, but great for ROM tune by far!

Yeah, I remember Trogdor on the Haltech. Similar mods, less boost, and more power. Just giving an idea that 600 on a 30r was a stretch to say the least.

water

10-12-2007, 01:22 PM

Here we go. It was a 3040r (3082r), 26psi, and 539whp lol. Oldie but still a goodie. Not to mention a much more realistic perception of power.
http://www.rs-enthalpy.com/videos/Enthalpy-539.wmv

anyotherone

10-12-2007, 02:54 PM

Just for reference, this is what I made with the following relevent mods:

PowerFC tuned by Cameron (me) at Matchless Performance
Stock block
JWT S1 cams / BC valvsprings and retainers
Greddy intake manifold
Full Race turbo manifold
GT2871r .86ar housing
Greddy turbo elbow - 3" downpipe - 3" exhaust (no cat)
precision intercooler
19psi (1.3bar) of boost

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f291/anyotherone/Dynos/SR_gt2871r86.jpg

It reads 386.97whp, sorry the numbers are hard to make out because its obscured.

I think that your numbers are on par with your cams/intake/exhaust setup.

steve shadows

10-12-2007, 03:03 PM

^ yes

oh and in ref to Enthalpy and the gt3040r Pull.

The gt3076r was basically the replacement for that turbo.

It spools up faster and makes the same output with proper tuning.

Just FYI.

I had a thread on FA called "gt3040r" and now its call "shadows project test car" or some stupid bs i had them re-name it while I was drunk.

anyways. GT3040R uses a T61 Compressor wheel with a gt30R turbine.

If you overclock the crap out of it I guess I could see it hitting 600 whp by the hairs of its ass but I would still like proof of this.

heychris

10-12-2007, 06:36 PM

Seaking of Turbos...Have an opportunity to buy what this man says is a Garrett Turbo, T03/04 hybrid, pics come out fuzzy but he gave me the part and serial numbers....How can I find out if he's for real and if this turbo would work w my set up..FYI looked on the Garrett site already.
TIA
CH

codyace

10-12-2007, 09:24 PM

cody hes kind of right, 600 BHP is capable with the gt3076R.

Not with the 3071R

both are 30R though ;)

Blah. Who cares about crank power this side of Import Rag (mags). NO 30r will ever hit 600 whp lol.

622 is waaaaaay out there though. I had a problem with Baro on a dyno skewing my numbers, maybe "Glen" had the same problem with his numbers jet

Theoretically I could see high 500 whp ranges possible on high boost on a 2.2 liter SR on race gas. But that would be the absolute limit.

Exactly.

20 til 3

10-12-2007, 09:50 PM

alright dude... here you go, as mach5camaro posted... only he had some of the specs wrong... here is a 10.81 with a gt2871 .64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h7YRw9TtoU

specs
as for the mods under the hood I have cp 8.5-1 pistons, eagle rods, hks step 2 264 cams, greddy springs, triple cut stock valves, exidy lighten flywheel, act extreme 6puck, one piece alum drive shaft, balanced motor, arp head studs, cometic headgasket. 2871r duel ball bearing turbo 64 ar, megan racing manifold, stock intake manifold, greddy type r intercooler, 850 sard injectors, enthalpy ecu tune, safc to fine tune-havent needed to, zex 75 wetshot of spray, no name exhaust, tein superdrift suspension, 6pt sw-racing cage, sparco pro2000 seat, g-force 5pt seatbelt, 26x8.5 mt slicks, stock tranny, 7in touch screen dvd player for music.

NOT MY CAR, he is a friend... i copied all of this off of a local forum... i can get more info if you want it... pm me