My 2001 S15 Spec R build thread - fun times

[chad_everson]

Ok so I decided to start one of these threads. I really never have in the past because all my builds take a long time and i forget to get pics along the way etc etc.. So This time I will actually try and do it each step of the way.. Its going to take a lil more time than normal since the car is up in seattle. I go up there every other weekend or so.. Not going to say what all is going in the car. You will have to wait for updates. Right now its ready for Justin Elin at Position 1 racecraft to do the stitch weld and full cage.. Anyway here is the start of the build..



The beginning:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15newpaint/face.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15newpaint/back.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15newpaint/driverside.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15newpaint/passengerside.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15newpaint/passsideinterior.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15newpaint/100_2377.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15newpaint/100_2379.jpg

[chad_everson]

Getting everything stripped and ready for the stitch weld and cage.. Just need to get the sound det. out and Position 1 can get going on it. Will get the sound det out next weekend hopefully.. Enjoy.




http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15%20Build/2.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15%20Build/3.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15%20Build/4.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15%20Build/5.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15%20Build/6.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15%20Build/7.jpg

[fd3s14]

Did you end up selling all the stock parts?

[chad_everson]

yeah almost all of the stock parts all sold..

[steve_o1989]

Can I do your car?

That thing is so sexy. I cant wait to see progress on this beaut.

[Andrew Bohan]

i got dibs on providing stickers

hah:love:

[drift freaq]

Ah Chad, I hate to break it to you but if thats the front bumper it came with someone did a switch on you. Thats not a Spec R bumper. I would look your car over carefully and check documention on it. Its possible someone put Spec R badges on a non spec R S15. Because it does not look like its in Spec R trim and like I said that front bumper is not Spec R its just a regular old S15 bumper.

[liv2drift045]

i was under the impression that specR meant turbo, like K's means on silvias

[drift freaq]

i was under the impression that specR meant turbo, like K's means on silvias

Spec R's had a more aggressive front bumper and factory side skirts. As far as the turbo goes most likely yes the turbo was an upgraded version of the stock one. Though do not quote me on the turbo part. Though I know about the bodywork side of it. His car has the skirts but not the bumper which makes me think someone swapped it on him.
This is a spec R bumper.

[kdashy]

Its probably just a Spec-R and not a Spec-R Aero.

[Sag3r]

Damn liken it already...Looking good

[chituntang]

That's spec R bumper without the lip....

I think......

[driftsilvias13]

That's spec R bumper without the lip....

I think......

uh no. if you look at the picture drift freaq provided the bumpers look nothing alike.

[CKAMC]

yeah its just a regular spec r... and they have other package models like "aero, v-package, b-package, electronic control, l-package, ect"

Spec-R Aero
http://picture.goo-net.com/7000501564/20070923/J/70005015642007092300100.jpg

Stock Spec-R
http://picture.goo-net.com/9060070905/05015030/J/90600709050501503003900.jpg

its nice to see something fairly new get worked on... no rust or signs of abuse along with being completely stock minus the wheels and shifter.

[5t341tH]

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15%20Build/7.jpg
is that bar in the back come stock?

[CKAMC]

is that bar in the back come stock?

looks like protection for the fuel pump harness... you know instead of the pump being located on the right its on the left instead.....

wonder why....

I could be wrong but its just a guess on this one

[JohnC]

That is the spec r trunk brace. I have it on my S14 as well as the two pieces in the front of the trunk. The spec r also comes with B pillar bracing that attaches to the floor and C pillar braces that you can just make out in one of the pics. The spec r also had roof reinforcements and front and rear underbody reinforcements that tie the frame rails together.

Apart from the roof bracing I have all the parts. The frame rail reinforcements made a huge difference! the rest, I really cant say.

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3891/xcme7tj7.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[azndoc]

Damn I want a S15.

Ask Chris he'll tell ya.

GL with the build.

[Anto]

nice, baller

i like you

you make things happen

oh oh, it's magic, you know

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000000946.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[Bushido]

how does one go about acquiring one of these, and making it legit?

[drift freaq]

how does one go about acquiring one of these, and making it legit?

lol don't we all wish. You don't for street. You can acquire one and use it for track only though. I.E. trailer it to and from the track.

[Tops*]

That is one foine-ass girl! Good at stripping too.

[CKAMC]

how does one go about acquiring one of these, and making it legit?

there are maybe 3 importers in the states(one I know of the other two I have HEARD of) that can get one legalized in certian states at a premium.

Let me made that clean... AT A PREMIUM

[Touge 180sx]

Nice work Reppin the NW! So what trim level is it?

[dvdevo]

wow so nice.

[fliprayzin240sx]

You want somewhat legalize? Registered as a kit car in FL...

Anyways, whats the plan for the engine? How much power are you shooting for and what to do with the crappy 6 speed tranny once you start shooting over 350 hp?

[chad_everson]

OK a lot of questions asked.. :)

Thanks for all the coments.

It is a Aero Spec R. I have all the docs for it. The spec R bumper got messed up from shipping so I got a new one..
'
The brace is stock..

The car is legal. I daily drive it..

I am not staying with the stock sr20 motor. Going with something completely different and not saying what. You guys will see once I get the mounts made and the motor in :)

Glad you guys are enjoying the build...

-Chad

[Koopa Troopa]

S15 SR's have been proven to make 570 p/s on stock internals.... Why use anything else?

[Anto]

I want to see either an RB or an turbo LSx motor in there


wee yipieee
you know he's going for 350+

[chad_everson]

S15 SR's have been proven to make 570 p/s on stock internals.... Why use anything else?


I do not care about how much power it is making. I do have a goal in mind though. I am changing it out because the norm is to just build the sr. I want to do something out of the norm..

Chad

[fromxtor]

I hope your not thinking of an RB25:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/CursedGTR/DSCF0047.jpg
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=154901&highlight=Rb26

[chad_everson]

no that is not unusual. I see the rb swaps alot. Something different

Chad

[Koopa Troopa]

I do not care about how much power it is making. I do have a goal in mind though. I am changing it out because the norm is to just build the sr. I want to do something out of the norm..

Chad

Don't fix it if it aint broke.

[Andrew Bohan]

LS7!

msssggg

[chad_everson]

Don't fix it if it aint broke.


than why make more power out of the stock motor? OR modifie the car more? If it isnt broken. Why fix it...

[CKAMC]

still gathering the motor of choice or do you have it ready? just wondering how far along we may have to wait for the next update :D

[chad_everson]

I will most likely to have the motor here this month. Hopefully the stitch weld and cage will be done towards the end of this month as well..

Chad

[Andrew Bohan]

i always say

"if it ain't broke, fix it until it is"

[BoostinGST]

I hope your not thinking of an RB25:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/CursedGTR/DSCF0047.jpg
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=154901&highlight=Rb26
thats an rb26... im hoping for a 2jz or an LSx motor... if you want to really be different throw a GNX motor in there or a 20b for fun... either way im confident you will do it right seeing that you've got this far already.

[smelly240]

I hope your not thinking of an RB25:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/CursedGTR/DSCF0047.jpg
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=154901&highlight=Rb26

that TB makes me giggle/

[EDacIouSX]

20b!!!!!!!!!!! but if it was my choice, i'd stay with the s15 sr. why take out a perfectly good motor?

[OurOnePassion]

KA-T! ftgdw

hahahaha

[Neejay]

KA-T! ftgdw

hahahaha

+1 loooooooooool

[OurOnePassion]

+1 loooooooooool


I was serious.

:hahano:

[VROOOM]

LS7 for sure

[ECR33S14]

please dont put a rotary in it. you'd spend all that time on the build for it to blow up when you pulled it into the street.

[fromxtor]

^^ Yea and no KA24ET either dammit. :rofl:

[OurOnePassion]

That's a clean strip. srsly

I think you need to come strip my car. I'm too lazy -- too wrapped up telling you how clean yours is.

[dirtdiggler666]

i would love to have that car stock as a dd, and just build a s14 if your gunna drift it, your gunna fuk it up anyways. good luck tho

[Neejay]

i would love to have that car stock as a dd, and just build a s14 if your gunna drift it, your gunna fuk it up anyways. good luck tho

That's what I was thinking...all stock and build up something else. :(

[johngriff]

BMW guys drop 4k on an intake manifold and pile it.

EVO kids wall their new off the lot cars.

Some people just have more money.

[Edgar]

keep the good work up :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/xxedtegraxx04/palace0306-img600x450-1179751108img.jpg

Look like this at the end

[Anto]

jesus christ of latter day saints

well yeah, LS7 would rock

turbo LS7 would be even crazier

[Bushido]

i vote ferrari flat-12

[CKAMC]

Vk56DETT? now that would be something

[Koopa Troopa]

3sgte?!

.................................................. ..........

[LongGrain]

i bet he's putting a D16 in it, now THAT would be original

[fromxtor]

VK56 w/ just cams,fuel tune, and SC would be redonkulas.

[OurOnePassion]

i bet he's putting a D16 in it, now THAT would be original

As in Honduh d16?

Keep that business outta here! :keke:






I have to agree with the VK56. That'd be pretty baller. But I have faith in your good taste.

[codyace]

S15 SR's have been proven to make 570 p/s on stock internals.... Why use anything else?

Maybe he wants to make some torque?

I want to see either an RB or an turbo LSx motor in there


LSx....that would do the trick. Cam/Intake/Tune/ LS2 would be an easy 400/400 hot rod :D

Vk56DETT? now that would be something

I wonder if all that would even fit in th eengine bay hehe. Not hating, just curious :D

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Man you better not put a KA-T in this thing...if so somebody close this thread


LsX please!!!

[OurOnePassion]

I didn't know what an lsx was, so I used Google like a good little boy... holy fire-hole batman! You could build the hell out of that! Supercharged or turbo'd?

What's with all the ka-t hate? :giggle:

[opponheimer]

Surprised this thread has gotten so many responses, I don't see what the big deal is.. Virtually no progress and already 3 pages!

[codyace]

It's a gutted s15, that is seemingly on the way to getting fixed up. It's been up for 1 day so far (well 2 now)...what else can you expect?


I can't wait to see how this turns out!

[chad_everson]

ya no progress because I just posted this a couple days ago lol.. I only get to work on it every other weekend. I stated it was going to be a long build. But by the end of this month the stitch weld and cage should be in. And perhaps the mount made for the new motor.

Chad

[a_ahmed]

looking forward to updates :)

[S14 Wannabe]

That is the spec r trunk brace. I have it on my S14 as well as the two pieces in the front of the trunk. The spec r also comes with B pillar bracing that attaches to the floor and C pillar braces that you can just make out in one of the pics. The spec r also had roof reinforcements and front and rear underbody reinforcements that tie the frame rails together.

Apart from the roof bracing I have all the parts. The frame rail reinforcements made a huge difference! the rest, I really cant say.

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3891/xcme7tj7.gif (http://imageshack.us)

John mind pm'ing me with where you got those parts from please?

[RUTH'LESSDET]

I didn't know what an lsx was, so I used Google like a good little boy... holy fire-hole batman! You could build the hell out of that! Supercharged or turbo'd?

What's with all the ka-t hate? :giggle:

KA-T:rl:

this gonna be a baller ass thread!!!
A perfectly mint s15 w/40km stripped down(for no reason) to be build back up with a new motor

[chad_everson]

KA-T:rl:

this gonna be a baller ass thread!!!
A perfectly mint s15 w/40km stripped down(for no reason) to be build back up with a new motor


the reason is for the love of building a bad ass track car that I will daily in the summer and take to the track and have a lot of fun with... :)

[dirtdiggler666]

ha ha ha ya 3 pages and it just looks like the car drove thru mexico, hope you got alot of cash man otherwise poor s15. but on a better note a ls7 with a vortech s/c stock would have about 650/700 hp stock:aw: doooooooooooooooooo it:aw:

[Koopa Troopa]

Maybe he wants to make some torque?



Use a man turbo and you'll find that SR's are completely capable of making some torque..

[CKAMC]

the reason is for the love of building a bad ass track car that I will daily in the summer and take to the track and have a lot of fun with... :)

any plans for rust protection? I have seen some cars come out from the NW that shit rust like none other... good idea to protect a unique car/investment

[chad_everson]

any plans for rust protection? I have seen some cars come out from the NW that shit rust like none other... good idea to protect a unique car/investment


yeah the car will be stored during winter in a treated enviorment. Other than that going through a few lil process to prevent against rust. There actually is no rust on the car right now. The trunk had rusty spare tire which is what you see in the pictures..

[codyace]

Use a man turbo and you'll find that SR's are completely capable of making some torque..

I make plenty of torque. Why spin a man turbo the moon and be required to run race gas, when you can have an easy 400+ at idle with a v8 on pump gas instead?

[LongGrain]

I make plenty of torque. Why spin a man turbo the moon and be required to run race gas, when you can have an easy 400+ at idle with a v8 on pump gas instead?

try going from a stoplight, or just starting at all with that much torque at idle. see how much you like it then...

[dvdevo]

I make plenty of torque. Why spin a man turbo the moon and be required to run race gas, when you can have an easy 400+ at idle with a v8 on pump gas instead?

because its not jdm or homogeneous?

Whatever you do with the car, it'll probably be sick just cause its a s15 lol

[opponheimer]

good luck.......... post pics!

[rusted180]

oohhh.. man. i know this comment has been said a million times...but, you are blessed.. my favorite s chassis. you are very blessed! good luck on the build!

[kuramaya]

2JZ FTMFW.

One of my friends is droppin an RB27 with twin 3037's n his S15. been building the car for a year and a half now (Iraq tour slowed him down). Like totally building it from an empty chassis up almost totally fabbed. Check Zeroyon if you are interested. I don't wanna spoil your thread with pics of it. But you may get some knowledge from this now over a year long thread.

Fuck here is the Link
http://www.zeroyon.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8391

[codyace]

2JZ FTMFW.

That would rock out pretty good! Plenty of support too :D

One of my friends is droppin an RB27 with twin 3037's n his S15. been building the car for a year and a half now (Iraq tour slowed him down). Like totally building it from an empty chassis up almost totally fabbed. Check Zeroyon if you are interested. I don't wanna spoil your thread with pics of it. But you may get some knowledge from this now over a year long thread.

Fuck here is the Link
http://www.zeroyon.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8391

Good to hear that's still up and about :D Glad to hear he's spending Uncle Sam's money the same way I did.

try going from a stoplight, or just starting at all with that much torque at idle. see how much you like it then...

I've driven Gutted Notches (Mustangs that is, you know, the small ugly ones that weigh as much as S13's) with that power and was very happy. Get real tires, and be done. Heck even an LS1 swap STOCK into a gutted S chassis would put a into the low 12's on street tires / 11's on slicks.

Even my Full weight s14 blisters the tires off in first, and that only had 330 ft lbs....are you suggesting he just make a car with 250 ft lbs to keep traction?

because its not jdm or homogeneous?

Who really cares if it's JDM or homogeneous? Please. You heard it hear first: JDM is wack.

Whatever you do with the car, it'll probably be sick just cause its a s15 lol

Truth, very pretty cars.

[Koopa Troopa]

I make plenty of torque. Why spin a man turbo the moon and be required to run race gas, when you can have an easy 400+ at idle with a v8 on pump gas instead?


I don't think there's a single place to get race gas on Okinawa and there is plenty of 500+ ps SR's running around...

[heartagram]

Nice car and good luck with the build. Can't wait to see the final product.

[ROIDMONKEY]

we have a VP station here in FTL

[upSLIDEdown]

2JZ FTMFW.


Can't believe it took 3 pages for someone to guess that. LOL

(Not saying that's what it is, cause I don't even know the guy. Just one of the first things that popped into my head as being a little different and would/could definitely make a metric shit-ton of power.)

[dirtdiggler666]

i still say its gunna be v8 somthing?? first guess would be ls7 but who knows hes gonna keep us in suspense:fawkd: j/k

[kura]

Ford 408w stroker. 6.7L small block ftw! You could pull off 600+ rwhp n/a. :) Or if you get a real nice Dart block, you could go past the 450 cube range.

Same engine I'm building right now for my stang. I think LSx are just too common cause of all those people who put them in their RX7's. How often do you see an import with a ford engine?

edit: and you could use an aluminum block and save the weight!

[jeeper_x]

3sgte?!

did u see that 3sgte supra in SuperStreet?.....That mk4 was hella light compare to the stock one.....

[axiomatik]

flathead ford.

DO IT!

[illvialuver]

do whatever you want, as long as its an s15 i seriously doubt people will care if its a nissan/mazda/chevy/ford motor, as long as its fast and can melt tires.

[dirtdiggler666]

blown hemi, that way when someone says what ya got you can go a hemi son :loco:

[burnsauto]

flathead ford.

DO IT!

that'd be bitchin. hooked up to buick tranny and a 9" in the rear.

strip the paint off it, let it rust for awhile, then add some red/white pinstriping to top it off. (no, not really...i love the s15 too much to even think how that would look, lol)

[240trooper]

wow, cant wait to see what he picks, id go with ka-t baby with a fatty t66 , it'd be nuts, but other wise a rb26 still be sick...

[chad_everson]

haha ya keeping you in suspense.. There for a while I was debating either the nissan titan motor or a single turbo ls2.. But just wanted something better and something a lil more rare than those two motors :)

Chad

[VROOOM]

buick GN motor or a W12

[240trooper]

you know what ive seen in a 300zx b4, a vh45dett from a q45, pretty crazy, i think he was pumpin out like 800hp, it would still be nissan

[240trooper]

found a vid, i think there more but ill look forth , <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/W8bGB439lm4"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/W8bGB439lm4" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

[Koopa Troopa]

did u see that 3sgte supra in SuperStreet?.....That mk4 was hella light compare to the stock one.....


The GT500 Supras use 3SGTE's to save weight and to distribute the wieght evenly. Top Secret also built a 740 whp 3SGTE Supra

[codyace]

Ford 408w stroker. 6.7L small block ftw! You could pull off 600+ rwhp n/a. :) Or if you get a real nice Dart block, you could go past the 450 cube range.

Same engine I'm building right now for my stang. I think LSx are just too common cause of all those people who put them in their RX7's. How often do you see an import with a ford engine?

edit: and you could use an aluminum block and save the weight!


I'm a Ford guy myself, but it just is so cheap to do LSx based builds (esepcially considering how much a Dart block costs).

But yes, the sound of Windsor alone would make me sport some wood. It would make me want to make Tim the Tool Man noises haha.



I don't think there's a single place to get race gas on Okinawa and there is plenty of 500+ ps SR's running around...

The guy is in America. Most of America has 91 octane piss. Please, when maknig comparisons, think of that.

And fwiw: A 400/400 LS1 would smoke down a 500 hp SR20. No doubt in my mind.

We've been in this debate before, so lets leave it out. I think the last time it basically came down to you never being in light ass good power v8 car, versus me who's been in fast cars from both ends of the spectrum.

haha ya keeping you in suspense.. There for a while I was debating either the nissan titan motor or a single turbo ls2.. But just wanted something better and something a lil more rare than those two motors :)

LS7's are just so expensive ;)

Single Turbo ls2 would be nutty. Nutty nutty nutty.

[/QUOTE]

[White Comet]

please dont put a rotary in it. you'd spend all that time on the build for it to blow up when you pulled it into the street.
this guy knows how to build a rotary :loco:

end thread jack, to the op looking good

[drftkng951]

PUT A VQ MOTOR IN IT!!!!:loco:
the 1 from the G37 would be sweet with its VVEL......:tweak:

http://www.roadfly.com/new-cars/wp-content/uploads/gallery/2007-infiniti-g37-sedan/infiniti-g35-engine.jpg
j/k would be insanly expensive...

[240trooper]

i like the twin intake in that pick, mean twin turbooooo, like i said a 4.5 nissan v8 305 rated hp but we all know its more

[fastasssr20]

cummins diesel that would be different and make tons of power jk

[chad_everson]

well hopefully by middle of next month I can show you guys the motor I a putting in it. Should have enough by than to buy it.. Will be going in soon there after..

Chad

[JRas]

Ls7

F-Turbo Lag

[KRMS13]

that is nice bro! keep us updated!

[cfinch]

^^^ sweet bulldog! lol!

[CursedGTR]

After all the guesses on the motor, I am hoping for something jaw dropping amazing.

C&Y Sports does make a kit for 2JZ into S15 though.

[wannabe_drifter]

Skyline GTR R35 engine !! that would be insane !!!
(I saw on supercars.net that it is supposed to be a VR38DETT !!!)

* but also insanely expensive !!!

[Koopa Troopa]

Uhh No such thing as a R35... V35 uses the VQ35 from the 350Z...

[chad_everson]

I am not doing a 2jz swap.. I hate that swap actually lol..
Chad

[wannabe_drifter]

I dunno about R35 or V35, I meant the next skyline GT-R or Nissan GT-R (whatever) coming out soon...
16 days from now : http://www.gtrnissan.com/

Its not gonna use an N/A 6 from the 350z...

Btw sorry for threadjack....
Can't wait to see what you actually put in there !!! its an awesome car !!!

[chad_everson]

Ls7

F-Turbo Lag

haha that is a good point.. but holy damn are those spendy set ups


chad

[RUTH'LESSDET]

the reason is for the love of building a bad ass track car that I will daily in the summer and take to the track and have a lot of fun with... :)

you got that right dude good luck with the build....my subscription is paid in full!!!!

[EJ253]

LS7 would be sick.

everyone will hate it but who cares about them haha

[chad_everson]

I do not think everyone would hate it actually I think A lot of people would like it. But i think a lot of people are going to like what I do with too :)

Chad

[Z33dori]

Ferrari F430 v8

...........the suspense is killing me...

[kura]

I just bought a 1969 351w block and heads for 200 bucks from a guy who had them sitting in his shed for 20 years. The 69 351w is the strongest of the production castings and can handle upwards of 700hp. And for the price? :) A 150 or so shot of nitrous, and you can have that 700 when you need it, and still have a friendly engine. Or supercharge it and have piles of tq instantly.

Smallblock Fords are cheap to build. That's the beauty of it. For $4,000 you can have a fully forged 408w stroker, a nice set of heads, and a custom grind cam, and put out over 550hp n/a on "91 crap" with some supporting mods. A lot of stuff from a 302w will work with a 351w and you can find junked 5.0 (302) fords by the pile.

Just a thought :) I'd love to see a Ford in an import for a change. LSx got too common cause of the rx7's.

[Andrew Bohan]

being common doesn't make things less good though. being good is what makes things common.

[chad_everson]

being common doesn't make things less good though. being good is what makes things common.



very well put..

[Z33dori]

being common doesn't make things less good though. being good is what makes things common.

QFT....and for that u get some rep:coold:

[Koopa Troopa]

Just a thought :) I'd love to see a Ford in an import for a change. LSx got too common cause of the rx7's.


LMAO, Ford and Nissan in one car. I'd be amazed if the car lasted 3 weeks before breaking down.

[codyace]

I just bought a 1969 351w block and heads for 200 bucks from a guy who had them sitting in his shed for 20 years. The 69 351w is the strongest of the production castings

ooooooooooh, C9 block for that price! What a steal. I've got some C9 heads on the last two SBF's I built.

Just a thought :) I'd love to see a Ford in an import for a change. LSx got too common cause of the rx7's.

The only disadvantage to me, is weight of a SBF.


being common doesn't make things less good though. being good is what makes things common.

In the world of V8's into imports, most have always went with the SBC or LS1...that does not mean the Ford Windsor Family is any better or worse.

LMAO, Ford and Nissan in one car. I'd be amazed if the car lasted 3 weeks before breaking down.

Whhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyy do you even give v8 advice, or make any v8 comments. You have none, so don't bash what you don't know.

[Koopa Troopa]

Why do you continue to try and put me in my place when you're so convinced I don't know shit about any motor other than the Nissan SR20? I've been trying to ignore you but your comments are kinda irritating me.

For your information I am a diesel mechanic. I have been working on motors built by Cat and Detroit Desiel for 4 years now. I know low end torque and I know 12 liter inline sixes and V8's bigger then your car so you can throw that bullshit out the window.

Who said I was bashing what I don't know? I watch Nascar and I am amazed at how long those crap ass pushrod motors last while being spun at 9k+ RPMs for 500 some miles. Not to mention we used to own a 454 Chevy dually and my mom still owns a '78 Trans Am with that POS 6.4 in it. I still don't know shit about V8's though...

As I've stated time and time again, any reason for low end torque is dead. Electronics killed that era.

You want to talk about low end torque? Go drive something powered by a Cat C12. 1200 ft/lbs of torque at 600 RPMs.

[CursedGTR]

Why do you continue to try and put me in my place when you're so convinced I don't know shit about any motor other than the Nissan SR20? I've been trying to ignore you but your comments are kinda irritating me.

For your information I am a diesel mechanic. I have been working on motors built by Cat and Detroit Desiel for 4 years now. I know low end torque and I know 12 liter inline sixes and V8's bigger then your car so you can throw that bullshit out the window.

Who said I was bashing what I don't know? I watch Nascar and I am amazed at how long those crap ass pushrod motors last while being spun at 9k+ RPMs for 500 some miles. Not to mention we used to own a 454 Chevy dually and my mom still owns a '78 Trans Am with that POS 6.4 in it. I still don't know shit about V8's though...

As I've stated time and time again, any reason for low end torque is dead. Electronics killed that era.

You want to talk about low end torque? Go drive something powered by a Cat C12. 1200 ft/lbs of torque at 600 RPMs.

Can you put that in a Silvia???

[dirtdiggler666]

i love this 5 pages of worthless nothing, its only still here because its a s15 if it was a s14 it would have been locked allready

[codyace]

For your information I am a diesel mechanic. I have been working on motors built by Cat and Detroit Desiel for 4 years now. I know low end torque and I know 12 liter inline sixes and V8's bigger then your car so you can throw that bullshit out the window.

You want to talk about low end torque? Go drive something powered by a Cat C12. 1200 ft/lbs of torque at 600 RPMs.

http://www.e-rak.com/cody/albums/album140/Img_3798.sized.jpg

I'm a fan of the new ISX cummins myself. Oh wait, I too work at a Truck shop! It's a bad picture, but at least proof that I'm not bsing you back....

FWIW: My Grandfathers (now Dad and Uncle's) business (also my currently employer) : Ace Trucking and Repair, Stroudsburg PA...been around since 1956 Again, I too know all about torque.

http://www.e-rak.com/cody/albums/album102/DSC00697.jpg

And I know how my HEMTT Wrecker drove too...mmmm 8v92 screaming across MSR's and ASR's all over Northern Iraq.





Who said I was bashing what I don't know? I watch Nascar and I am amazed at how long those crap ass pushrod motors last while being spun at 9k+ RPMs for 500 some miles.

It is amazing, espcially being that Nascar engines typically endure more stress than F1 cars....


As I've stated time and time again, any reason for low end torque is dead. Electronics killed that era.

Have you EVER EVER EVER been in a lightweight LSx based car? Or a lightweight windsor based car? If you have been, or know about them, you would want one in your car. If I would have done more research myself, I wouldn't have sunk all this time and enegery into my SR...it would have an LSx based motor, with an even better powerband, running even faster as the circuit and strip, and getting 25+MPG.


Sorry for the threadjack, now lets get more updates on the S15!

[chad_everson]

I will hopefully have some updates soon..

Chad

[Koopa Troopa]

Have you EVER EVER EVER been in a lightweight LSx based car? Or a lightweight windsor based car? If you have been, or know about them, you would want one in your car. If I would have done more research myself, I wouldn't have sunk all this time and enegery into my SR...it would have an LSx based motor, with an even better powerband, running even faster as the circuit and strip, and getting 25+MPG.




I've been in Japan since I was 18. I wouldn't want to be in a lightweight car powered by blue or an LSx. Bigass motors don't float my boat.

[chad_everson]

that girl in your sig foats my boat :)

Chad

[codyace]

I will hopefully have some updates soon..

Chad

Awesome news! Certainly an interesting project for sure :2f2f:


I've been in Japan since I was 18. I wouldn't want to be in a lightweight car powered by blue or an LSx. Bigass motors don't float my boat.


Since when are LSx's big? I wonder if a SR is actually larger side to side (from intake end to turbo) than we'll say an LS1....I would laugh if it was hehe.


And that statement proves my point...you've never been in one, so you can't hate until you've experienced it. It would be like calling golf a lame sport, yet never ever picking up a club...

Some of the most exciting cars to be ever built, all involved around the idea of sticking a v8 into a light, nimble, and typically small car. AC Cobra, Sunbeam Tiger, Corvette, Mustangs...etc etc. If it wasn't a good combo, those above mentioned car's wouldn't be as famous or as sought after as they are.

[CursedGTR]

Awesome news! Certainly an interesting project for sure :2f2f:





Since when are LSx's big? I wonder if a SR is actually larger side to side (from intake end to turbo) than we'll say an LS1....I would laugh if it was hehe.


And that statement proves my point...you've never been in one, so you can't hate until you've experienced it. It would be like calling golf a lame sport, yet never ever picking up a club...

Some of the most exciting cars to be ever built, all involved around the idea of sticking a v8 into a light, nimble, and typically small car. AC Cobra, Sunbeam Tiger, Corvette, Mustangs...etc etc. If it wasn't a good combo, those above mentioned car's wouldn't be as famous or as sought after as they are.

You two look like a text version of two sisters arguing. I think you guys should just make out.

Can we chill witht he massive thread jack now.

---- Insert lame attempt to ask a dumb question in order to half ass make an attempt to sound smart and bring this shit back on track.----

[Koopa Troopa]

Awesome news! Certainly an interesting project for sure :2f2f:





Since when are LSx's big? I wonder if a SR is actually larger side to side (from intake end to turbo) than we'll say an LS1....I would laugh if it was hehe.


And that statement proves my point...you've never been in one, so you can't hate until you've experienced it. It would be like calling golf a lame sport, yet never ever picking up a club...

Some of the most exciting cars to be ever built, all involved around the idea of sticking a v8 into a light, nimble, and typically small car. AC Cobra, Sunbeam Tiger, Corvette, Mustangs...etc etc. If it wasn't a good combo, those above mentioned car's wouldn't be as famous or as sought after as they are.

And the best part about that is those cares are all driven by men with penis envy. Do you have penis envy cause that's what it sounds like to me.

Golf is a lame ass sport and I don't need to play it to know that.

Since you want to talk about the most exciting cars ever built, we all know the Group B cars of the late 70's/ early 80's were some of the most technilogically advanced ever built. Common motors found in them? 4 and 5 cylinders with the Lancia Stratos being powered by a Ferrari V6.

Knock yourself out with your "no replacement for displacement" thesis. I'll do the same crap your 400 ci motor can do with my 2.0L.

[zomgdrft]

How was that S15 legalized for state-side daily driving? Legitamately? That costs an arm and a leg. That was never explained. Until it is explained everything here is lies.

Sorry I'm just failing to understand the logic of having an freaking awesome car imported, then the costs of legalization, only to completely strip it down and build it over again entirely...

Why not have the sweet imported legal S15... then buy a cheapo busted S15 to build up for track use? S15's are pretty cheap in japan (relatively speaking, one of my good friends lives there) one with a blown motor would be dirt cheap...

[CursedGTR]

then buy a cheapo busted S15 to build up for track use? S15's are pretty cheap in japan (relatively speaking) one with a blown motor would be dirt cheap...

Total Stereotype, S15 with NO motor is still expensive.

[Koopa Troopa]

Yeah, LMAO... S15 with no motor is what? $6K? Fuck that, I could get a 32 GTR for close to that.

[zomgdrft]

Total Stereotype, S15 with NO motor is still expensive.
Stereotype? What does that even mean in the context im using it in? You can get S15's all day long in Japan for around 10k (or sometimes way less). IMO, that's really cheap for the kind of car you get. Considering 1997-1998 kouki s14's with a KA still go for around 8k here in the U.S...

http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/100403434

And apparently since this guy can import and legalize an S15, 5k-6k for one with NO/blown motor should be no problem...

[VROOOM]

think of how much he can get for S15 parts.

and for the guys arguing about an LSX motor and an Sr. who cares some people like high revving motors and some like torque mosters. to each his own.

but there is something about an LSx with heads and cam that makes feel funny inside.

[s14xman]

stop clogging his thread, argue over pm or something. We just want updates not you boneheads

[chad_everson]

How was that S15 legalized for state-side daily driving? Legitamately? That costs an arm and a leg. That was never explained. Until it is explained everything here is lies.

Sorry I'm just failing to understand the logic of having an freaking awesome car imported, then the costs of legalization, only to completely strip it down and build it over again entirely...

Why not have the sweet imported legal S15... then buy a cheapo busted S15 to build up for track use? S15's are pretty cheap in japan (relatively speaking, one of my good friends lives there) one with a blown motor would be dirt cheap...


You can think it is all lies as much as you want. It is not going to bother me any.. As for how to get it legalize not going to explain that for you either..

The reason I did this is because I wanted a bad ass track worth car that I could drive anytime I wanted to on the streets and still be legal.. When I first bought the car I got it for daily driving. Did that for a lil over a year and now want a change.

-Chad

[zomgdrft]

As for how to get it legalize not going to explain that for you either.

-Chad
:rolleyes:

Give me a break.

[CursedGTR]

Stereotype? What does that even mean in the context im using it in? You can get S15's all day long in Japan for around 10k (or sometimes way less). IMO, that's really cheap for the kind of car you get. Considering 1997-1998 kouki s14's with a KA still go for around 8k here in the U.S...

http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/100403434

And apparently since this guy can import and legalize an S15, 5k-6k for one with NO/blown motor should be no problem...

S15 with no motor or drive train would be a rolling chasis and not a car therefore not subject to legalization requirements because it is considered parts and not a car, do some research and you might find a few useful things in there (like how shit is done).

Again a Kouki S14 K's over here still goes for 8-10K, so what is the difference?? I am not going to sit here and argue about it, I am just saying that everyone thinks everything is cheaper in Japan and they don't realize that we are paying out of our assholes for the same shit they think Japanese guys just "throw away". Hell, most of us order engine parts and other things that will work from the U.S. in order to save money and still get quality, even the Japanese are starting to follow suit on that one.

[zomgdrft]

Stereotype? What does that even mean in the context im using it in? You can get S15's all day long in Japan for around 10k (or sometimes way less). IMO, that's really cheap for the kind of car you get. Considering 1997-1998 kouki s14's with a KA still go for around 8k here in the U.S...

http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/100403434

And apparently since this guy can import and legalize an S15, 5k-6k for one with NO/blown motor should be no problem...

S15 with no motor or drive train would be a rolling chasis and not a car therefore not subject to legalization requirements because it is considered parts and not a car, do some research and you might find a few useful things in there (like how shit is done).

Again a Kouki S14 K's over here still goes for 8-10K, so what is the difference?? I am not going to sit here and argue about it, I am just saying that everyone thinks everything is cheaper in Japan and they don't realize that we are paying out of our assholes for the same shit they think Japanese guys just "throw away". Hell, most of us order engine parts and other things that will work from the U.S. in order to save money and still get quality, even the Japanese are starting to follow suit on that one.

Ok I really don't quite understand why you're arguing with me on anything here. I simply said, since this guy is Joe Moneybags with his "legal" S15 in the states, why doesn't he just get a chassis s15 to build his track car, and not butcher a perfectly good "legalized" s15.

It's now quite apparent his "legalized" S15 isn't truely legal. So I suppose it doesn't really matter what he does with it.

I'm also not quite understanding what you're spouting off about with jdm parts. All the aftermarket parts I've ever had or seen in the japanese market are extremely cheaper than they are stateside. Have you even been to UpGarage? For example: you can get used cusco strut bars for the s14 for around $20. Here you would be paying upwards towards $150 for a used one...

Only OEM parts are similar in price in the Japanese market as they are in the US Market.

[chad_everson]

so you want to see a title with the s15 vin on it or my registraion or insurance card that shows that its legal???

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/S15newpaint/registrationcard.jpg

[chad_everson]

:rolleyes:

Give me a break.


I would like to see anyone who knew how to legalize these cars tell you how to do it.. You will not find anyone.. Otherwise everyone would have them. Some do it as kit cars, some as s14 or s13 vin swaps. mine are not like that. I do not have a pic of the title.. But can get one for you later on.. here is a pic of my daily driver eg6 hatch that I imported and is legal as well...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/chad_everson/02.jpg

[zomgdrft]

You can get a title for a tricycle. People try and sell "legal" skylines on ebay with just titles too. Insurance can be had on anything as well.

You can even buy yourself a legit smog cert these days easily. Show us paperwork stating all the glass installed is now safety glass, all documentation stating it's legal by the federal government, etc etc. What company did you go through to have this entire process done? The entire process is usually around $15,000 minimum. At least it was around that for Skylines from the few that were handled by Motorex before they were shut down.

I was truely interested at first, but now I just think you're full of crap, sorry :(


EDIT - Hah good job not blocking out your address :\ Now we can be total asses and call teh feds on u ;) (not really)

[longdy]

wow... that is legal..lol and also i know where you live as a bonus!!..lol
jk jk

[20 til 3]

its really not to hard to legalize cars in the states, you have to either... know the right people, or do the research and find loopholes

[chad_everson]

You can get a title for a tricycle. People try and sell "legal" skylines on ebay with just titles too. Insurance can be had on anything as well.

You can even buy yourself a legit smog cert these days easily. Show us paperwork stating all the glass installed is now safety glass, all documentation stating it's legal by the federal government, etc etc. What company did you go through to have this entire process done? The entire process is usually around $15,000 minimum. At least it was around that for Skylines from the few that were handled by Motorex before they were shut down.

I was truely interested at first, but now I just think you're full of crap, sorry :(


EDIT - Hah good job not blocking out your address : Now we can be total asses and call teh feds on u ;) (not really)


old address I bought a house since than..

Ass for showing you the documentation, I have it all along with all of the paperwork needed. But If i post that it will give out the whole process of legalizing them. Honestly, now I really could care less that you dont believe me.. I know what it is, I get to enjoy the car, thats all that maters to me..

. Insurance can be had on anything as well.

(not really)


and I dont know which insurance companies you have had, but when I tried to get insurance on my eg6 before i got it legalized they would not let me. I had to show them my title and all the supporting docs to show that it now met us standards. Without that they would not insure it. Once i supplied them with that, they than sent out an estimater to decide value of the car..

-Chad

[zomgdrft]

its really not to hard to legalize cars in the states, you have to either... know the right people, or do the research and find loopholes
That's not legal, idiot. :Ownedd:

Grey market is not legal.

[zomgdrft]

Ass for showing you the documentation, I have it all along with all of the paperwork needed. But If i post that it will give out the whole process of legalizing them. Honestly, now I really could care less that you dont believe me.. I know what it is, I get to enjoy the car, thats all that maters to me..

-Chad
See post above.


Look it's fine, I really don't care that much, just don't go spouting off stuff that isn't true. You haven't had all the glass replaced, you haven't had it run through the proper channels of legalization. It's a grey market car.

Anyways, looking forward to seeing the swap I suppose. I won't take up any more space posting in the thread but I'll keep checking to see what engine you choose.

[chad_everson]

all imported cars ( like imported from another country not HONDA import) are still considered grey marker FYI.. The motorex r33s even when insured are still insured under grey market..

_Chad

[zomgdrft]

all imported cars ( like imported from another country not HONDA import) are still considered grey marker FYI.. The motorex r33s even when insured are still insured under grey market..

_Chad
Except they have the federal documentation to go along with it. Thus making it legal.
OK sorry, last post I promise :D

[chad_everson]

I had everything replaced and went through the correct chanels to get it legalized. I would not jeoprodize spending all the money for the s15 than another almost 85k to get it built to just get impounded..

I do agree with you about the post where the guy says you have to know people.. that is not legal that is just going through loop holes to get a title..

-Chad

[CursedGTR]

Ok I really don't quite understand why you're arguing with me on anything here. I simply said, since this guy is Joe Moneybags with his "legal" S15 in the states, why doesn't he just get a chassis s15 to build his track car, and not butcher a perfectly good "legalized" s15.

It's now quite apparent his "legalized" S15 isn't truely legal. So I suppose it doesn't really matter what he does with it.

I'm also not quite understanding what you're spouting off about with jdm parts. All the aftermarket parts I've ever had or seen in the japanese market are extremely cheaper than they are stateside. Have you even been to UpGarage? For example: you can get used cusco strut bars for the s14 for around $20. Here you would be paying upwards towards $150 for a used one...

Only OEM parts are similar in price in the Japanese market as they are in the US Market.

Up garage sells other peoples garbage and yes I have been there. Now so you will get my point a little better lets do some price comparison here.

Cosworth Pistons - 155 each (RB26).
Same Cosworth Pistons sold by JUN about 2200.00 for the set.

Greddy Oil Cooler Kit (about 700 ish for the good one)
Piece together my own Setrab set up from Summit about 500.00

HKS Step 3 Stroker Kit for RB26 About 9k (Made by crower in the states)
Direct order that fucker for about 6K-7K

A custom radiator from Ron Davis with Fans would cost me the same as the Greddy radiator I just bought without fans. The only reason I didn't go that route was because I neeeded it kinda quickly and didn't have the time to wait. Ron Davis is far superior to Greddy radiators as I have been told by many engine builders. Hell even japanese guys I know would love to have one themselves.

The only thing I have bought in Japan that was cheaper than stateside shit was the NAMS Control Arms (Complete Kit was about 2300.00 against the 2500 ish that it would have cost to buy everything from SPL)

That is what I am talking about right there. Do not insult my intelligence by telling me about junk distributors like Up garage. If you actually learned anything while you were here (i am assuming you lived here at one point) you would know that there are better places to find better shit for better prices and that is what I do Up Garage is a joke.

However, regardless of who you talk to, an S15 is still going to cost some cash unless you buy a Spec S that has to be completely reworked anyways and would cost even more than the type R in the long run (I know someone that went this route and he says to just go ahead and get the type R in the first place, to many things need to be changed to make it what it should be and it all adds up way to quickly).

You made a lame statement that made no sense to me about S15's being cheap or whatever so I called you out on it (it was a lame statement). I am tired of guys thinking everything is oh so cheap when they are comparing used parts to new parts or whatever, I get so much shit from the states it is crazy. Shit my S15 will be USDM Tyte Yo!!!

PLUS bashing this dudes project over legalization or the choices he made is really fucking retarded. Who really cares if his car is legal or not, it looks like a cool project and the consequences of his actions have absolutely no bearing on your daily life, so get the fuck over it clown ops. Take this shit to PM if you got anything else to say to me, I am done with you.

Get what I am saying now???

Don't reply it really isn't necessary.

[300hp owen]

awesome car & project .... heh heh heh... do it.

[babowc]

zogmdrift, hoyl shit, shut the fuck up already.

let this man have his goddamn thread, wat the fuck.

Itd be real nice for a mod to come delete all these shitty posts, including mine.

[hatchbaak]

Looks awesome! You should cruise into bend sometime when you get it finished :boink:

[Phlip]

zomgdrft;
Please do us all (including yourself) the favor of shutting the hell up, I mean it is really not any fun for us to see the reasons why the little red squares under your name have gone from one to 8 between my leaving my house at 7:23am and now.
I am not going to take the time to tell you again

[chad_everson]

well hopefully that will put an end to all the bikering..

-Chad

[Baron Fel]

yeah, Now back to work chad, and finish the thing! I'm getting ancy

[Baron Fel]

Knock yourself out with your "no replacement for displacement" thesis. I'll do the same crap your 400 ci motor can do with my 2.0L.

yeah but you'll spend three times as much and still have a time bomb on your hands! lol

[babowc]

I want to see the outcome of this thread..
supposedly its a very long project according to the other thread in the other forum.

SECUSEEE.

[EJ253]

block out your address bro!

[DALAZ_68]

ill throw in my .02 on wuts going in this...


i say 3 rotor ....i havent seen it done on a s15, but currently working out details for an s13 on my firneds side....

just a though :bigok:

[chad_everson]

besides the cage and stitch weld the project is at a halt right now. Some personal stuff that I need to take care of came up:(

[nismoenthu]

any recent pictures?

[Neejay]

besides the cage and stitch weld the project is at a halt right now. Some personal stuff that I need to take care of came up:(

Yeah, life > car stuff

[RUTH'LESSDET]

any pics of the motor yet chad ??