Oil Cooler Set up

[bardabe]

Alright, I know this is stupid but whatever, I got an OIl Cooler

I got 1 Oil Cooler
4 1/2npt to AN-8 Adaptors
4 AN -8 fittings
Oil Filter Sandwich plate

you guys think I will be ok with that?.

i did a search but i couldn;t really get my queston answered so yeah just wanna make sure before I put it on my car last thing I want is my Shit blowing up and spilling oil all over the highway lol

-Juan

p.S. No I don't want to relocate my oil filter it's perfectly fine where it is now.

[bardabe]

Ok Updated / relooked my set up. this is what i want to run you guys think it's Ideal?

[MavericStephenc]

juan greddy makes sandwich adapter plates, I think spl carries them too........why didnt i just im you

[bardabe]

+1 for you buddy found it
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecId=5128

[GSXRJJordan]

what motor is that for Juan? I was thinking about doing an oil cooler setup, based on the Trans Dapt 1113 Remote Oil filter kit (it fits S13 SR's and KA's I think - http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_42218_-1) and just rerouting one of the hoses to the cooler... keeps the cost down :)

[atom]

Seems pretty standard but you're missing a thermostat. I have the same sandwich plate from that link to pegasus except I got it from Canton. It's a nice piece but I have to do run an in-line thermostat. Mocal makes a nice sandwich plate with an integrated thermostat.

http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/mocal.htm

[MavericStephenc]

the greddy one i suggested has a thermo http://240sxmotoring.com/groilcoadw.html

[johngriff]

I don't like the -8 for oil, especially the rb, I would want to go -10 at least.

[MrChow]

I believe Juan as a RB20.

Yeah your oil is in a great spot!

[Sir]

I don't like the -8 for oil, especially the rb, I would want to go -10 at least.
I've seen someone else post that as well. Is there some kind of reasoning behind it?
My current setup is all -8 with a 10x10 Setrab oil cooler

[bardabe]

what motor is that for Juan? I was thinking about doing an oil cooler setup, based on the Trans Dapt 1113 Remote Oil filter kit (it fits S13 SR's and KA's I think - http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_42218_-1) and just rerouting one of the hoses to the cooler... keeps the cost down :)
yeah but if you do that then you will have to get 1 extra hose (maby 2 becuse of length) an inline thermostat, an Oil cooler, and fittings. wich will probably add up to more. im sure it will

Seems pretty standard but you're missing a thermostat. I have the same sandwich plate from that link to pegasus except I got it from Canton. It's a nice piece but I have to do run an in-line thermostat. Mocal makes a nice sandwich plate with an integrated thermostat.

http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/mocal.htm
yeah I just thought about that, and am looking into it.
the greddy one i suggested has a thermo http://240sxmotoring.com/groilcoadw.html
ha ha 5$ more cause it's greedy I'm thinking about it lol
I don't like the -8 for oil, especially the rb, I would want to go -10 at least.
Yeah is there any reason behind that? what really are the benefits of tunning that big ass line? the 1/2 to 8AN is exactly the same inner diameter as the fittings on the block. so wouldn't going from a small hole to a bigger hole be like a restriction?
I believe Juan as a RB20.

Yeah your oil is in a great spot!
yep yep,http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/FairladyZ32/S13/standalone018.jpg so is the Plug on the oil pan, I don't have to ever jack up my car for an oil change, Slide the pan under the car, then lean in take the plug off from the top drain oil, then reach for the filter all from the top =)
I've seen someone else post that as well. Is there some kind of reasoning behind it?
My current setup is all -8 with a 10x10 Setrab oil cooler

yeah I mean my engine is only a 2.0 the Greddy oil relocation kit my friend has on his SR is running -8AN from greddy (the size of the line) and so is the one on my friend's KA. that's whay I leaned in towards -8AN. that's also what my nascar buddies said. -8AN is perfect for oil, same size we run on the Nascars.


so I will like to hear why the -10 is Preferable over the -8AN aside from the ovious Allot bigger diameter.

[Dousan_PG]

most all the kits that come from japan (greddy, tomei block, um...who else...section i think) are -10

everyone i know who did them said go -10
so i went -10

-8 should be fine

but i prefer -10
and its fine
i got a new oil pump anyways so no worries.

[mehsilvia]

Lots of great info, and in time. I too am in process of running a relo/cooler setup.

Question tho - its not clear how the external thermo is run with the setup. Can anyone do a quick illustration of how that is connected?

[Slidin240Wayz]

Just get the greddy sandwich...built in thermo.

Set!

[mehsilvia]

I would have, but have a brand new Greddy Relo kit sitting here right next to my B&M Oil cooler. Was just making up the stainless -10an lines and looking at how to run everything together. While doing so i was searching around about details and came across this and a few other websites mentioning the thermostat.

Just not clear to me with having 4 NPT connections on the external, how it is all put together.

[atom]

Instead of plugging the inlet and outlet hoses to the oil cooler, you plug them into the thermo instead. Now you need two extra hoses to run from the thermo to the oil cooler itself. So basically you need 4 extra fittings and two more lengths of hose (or if you already have two measured lengths of hose you can cut those into 4 pieces obviously) compared to an install with no inline thermostat.

[Sir]

FYI don't use this style spin on block
http://personal.linkline.com/dbarton/OilFilterAdapter1.jpg

it will get loose and start to leak.



Mehsilvia - oilcoolers and blocks usually have female ports (1/2NPT) that you use the 1/2NPT-xAN adapters to attach your lines to.

Oilcooler NPT <-> NPTtoAN adapoter <-> AN fitting-AN line-AN fitting <-> ANtoNPT adapter <-> Oil block.

[mehsilvia]

Thank you gentlemen.

[ch1873857]

the cooler i just picked up doesnt have a thermo. i know what it does but if i dont have one what precautions should i take. say let the car warm up more before driving? btw its a 13x6 cooler with 10an hoses/fittings. which are freakin huge, they are 7/8" inch thick.. thanks guys.

[GSXRJJordan]

The common thought is that the oil takes a while to warm up anyway (longer than your coolant, for sure) so when you basically double your oil volume (with the cooler/lines/etc) it'll take EVEN LONGER to warm up. Sure, you might be OK without a thermo, but then again, what's $100 when you're talking about rod bearings?

Get that thermo listed above and a couple more hoses. That's what I plan on doing ~ It'll buy you peace of mind.

[Dousan_PG]

i run no thermo
and my stuff is fine
full track car
warms up real fast
let ti idle, drive it around. get the temps up, then rip on it

for a street car. i would probaly run a thermo
but maybe not.

[mehsilvia]

i run no thermo
and my stuff is fine
full track car
warms up real fast
let ti idle, drive it around. get the temps up, then rip on it

for a street car. i would probaly run a thermo
but maybe not.

Now thats what i was thinking. Considering mine is also track purpose. Hmm . . . decisions.

[ch1873857]

thanks guys. i like that ,"track car. warms up real fast" i may, down the road pick up on of those inline ones.

[reflexdb]

hat's also what my nascar buddies said. -8AN is perfect for oil, same size we run on the Nascars.

Well, nascars also use six stage scavenge pumps:

http://daileyengineering.com/SMALLSIZE.htm

Check out the link. I can believe that the scavenge lines are -8, but the single line from scavenge pump to reservoir is -20 (that's f_ing big). Point is, bigger isn't going to hurt you. I used -10 lines on the dry-sump I designed for our FSAE car, Honda 600cc F4i motor. Some other teams used -8, some used -10. The -10 are a little bit more bulky, but will not be a flow restriction as said above. Plus, looks like you have plenty of room.

[hitman]

i ran -10 to compensate for my abnormally small penis

[johngriff]

i ran -10 to compensate for my abnormally small penis


You need -12 to do that!

[Antihero983]

i know ebay shit is pretty shady most of the time, but what about this O.C. kit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PERFORMANCE-19-ROW-OIL-COOLER-NISSAN-240SX-SR20DET-350Z_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem250157586850QQitem Z250157586850

this would be for a autocross/street driven KA24DE N/A btw..

[bardabe]

Something about "Glow Shift Gauges" making oil cooler kits dosent sound right. lol i wouldn't trust that shit. it;s like buying an APC Turbo kit. I wouldn't trust that shit either

[Irukandji]

i ran -10 to compensate for my abnormally small penis

small penis? more like vagina

[ch1873857]

Something about "Glow Shift Gauges" making oil cooler kits dosent sound right. lol i wouldn't trust that shit. it;s like buying an APC Turbo kit. I wouldn't trust that shit either

got one of these kits for free so i said fuck it why not. turned out to work really well. -10an hoses, 13x6.5 cooler, no leaks, all the fittings and your ports for pressure and temp. hell their customer service was pretty good. i was very skeptical, i thought it would be complete junk but hey, it works.

[bardabe]

got one of these kits for free so i said fuck it why not. turned out to work really well. -10an hoses, 13x6.5 cooler, no leaks, all the fittings and your ports for pressure and temp. hell their customer service was pretty good. i was very skeptical, i thought it would be complete junk but hey, it works.

well that got me lol how long you have with it?

[ch1873857]

actually i just put it in the other day and havent driven it much. i dont have my oil temp gauge wired up yet either. eh..ask me again in a few days haha

[welddrft]

Hopes this helps anyone with the location of lines, this came with my greddy oil cooler relocation.


http://i9.tinypic.com/6bjibfo.jpg

[bardabe]

sweeeeet thanks

[Antihero983]

actually i just put it in the other day and havent driven it much. i dont have my oil temp gauge wired up yet either. eh..ask me again in a few days haha

lol well let us know, im on a super budget right now (bills and paying off my snap on tool box :-/ ) and i can actually afford this....

...but if i get it i think ill get the greddy sandwich since it has the built in thermostat.

[johngriff]

Even if it stays together and does not leak it does not mean the cooler is not going to work as well as others.

Bar and plate vs tube and fin makes a huge difference. Where i could understand biting the bullet on the I/C going cheap bar and plate with a pressure loss, I sure as hell would not want to run a cheapy bar and plate in for the oil cooler and take a pressure loss there. I would also imagine the amount of churning in the tanks of a cooler like that would start to cause a sludge.

Just with the price off SS lines alone, that kit is SUPER cheap. We are putting together a kit as we speak and its going to be around 3xx MSRP with good quality hardware all the way around.

[Dousan_PG]

haha that greddy thing is probably cheaper even though its like 140 bucks
-10 line fittings are like 20 bucks + each
ugh
hahaha
and then the thermo.
bleh.

the greddy would need 8 fittings
the thermo route would need 10

thats aorund 50 and such
then the thermos..

id go the greddy route if u need the thermo.
ps; i have one for sale, 120 bucks too hahahahahaha
shipped in the USA!

ps: i saw one website w/ the thermos that are in the pics...its 99 bucks! f that! 99 bucks plus two more -10 fittings wll make it about 150ish...depending if u pay for shipping and such..

[johngriff]

Yeah, lines and fittings are obscene as of late...

[bardabe]

He He the only thing i had to pay for was the Oil cooler thermo block. everything else i got for free. =)

[ronin207]

Hey guys be carefull of the GRD ORANGE 90 DEGREE CONNECTORS THEY CAN FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seen this on G35 and STi.My bro did some resurch and found that Earls does not make those fittings, some cheap place in Japan. Have had personal dealings with installing this on customer cars. Jason

[Inland180]

What do you guys think about the new brand"MAX" oil cooler kit?

[bardabe]

^^^ IDK u can be our Guinea Pig lol

[Sir]

I got a huge Setrab on ebay for dirt cheap because noone bid on it.
start looking there or craigslist etc.

[proledoriat]

so If i get the greddy sandwich with he built in thermostat, and run -10 lines to and from the oil cooler it should be a good setup?

[McRussellPants]

Im gonna run Nascar 20x30 cooler with 16AN lines on my stock oil pump.

shits gonna cost me 100$ total, and make for like 7 quart oil capacity. badass.

[Fries]

I enjoy PBM coilovers, wish I could tell if all their shit was legit or not. The prices are soooo good!

[hitman]

ive had their oil cooler since july. not the whole kit but just the actual core. i got it to replace the one i broke when i crashed at asb1

[bmx22]

when adding a oil cooler how much more oil do you use how do you check if its enough just keep checking the dip stick??????

[OMGYO]

where are you gonna place your oilcooler?

[hitman]

the first time you need to add more oil. but after that the oil in your oil cooler and lines usually dont drain out so i still only do 4 qt.