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srkxxdenjin
08-21-2007, 09:07 PM
i know this is a stupid question but whats the difference from a redtop and blacktop sr? cuz im planning to do a swap on my s14. whats the difference besides the price?
johngriff
08-21-2007, 09:09 PM
the s14 black top? iirc there should be a faq around...
skylindrftr
08-21-2007, 09:29 PM
depends what versions of those two engines you are talking about...
Okinawandrifter87
08-21-2007, 09:37 PM
The only difference is probably to... SEARCH. Lol you had it coming with a question like that. Easily covered. All you type in the search bar is SR20det.
usdm180sx
08-21-2007, 09:48 PM
The search button is the difference in price
Mlogue84
08-21-2007, 10:14 PM
Valve Cover Colors:
The colors of the valve covers are related to the year the engine was released.
Color /Model /Years
Red.. S13/180SX/Bluebird/Pulsar.. 1989-1994
Black.. S13/180SX.. 1994-1998
Black.. S14/S15.. 1994-2002
Silver.. Avenir.. 1995-2001
S13 Black top - Came from 180sx's post 94 (Garrett T25G turbo)
S13 Red top - Came from S13 Silvia and 180sx pre 94 (Garrett T25G turbo)
S14 Black top - 94-98 Silvias - Variable Cam Timing aka VCT was introduced (Garrett T28 bush journal bearing turbo) Only the JDM engine came with a ball bearing turbo.
S15 Black top - 99-02 Silvias. (Garrett Ball Bearing T28 turbo and 6 speed transmission)
usdm180sx
08-21-2007, 10:18 PM
Only the JDM engine came with a ball bearing turbo.
Are you referring to the Japanese market vs Australian or European market cars?
Mlogue84
08-21-2007, 10:31 PM
Both, so for instance if you bought an 1999 s14 Silvia or s15 in Europe or Australia you'd get an sr20det with a bush bearing turbo. But in Japan you would have gotten a ball bearing turbo.
JDMS1lv1a
08-22-2007, 12:15 AM
if you're lookin to get the s13 SR20 redtop or Blktop reguardless of color, dont have a power difference.
redtop being the early model and Blktop being late model SR20's(not including s14/s15 SR's) as stated above
IMO if were going to build an SR,Id go with an s13 redtop/blktop.
daryl337
08-22-2007, 12:15 PM
The s13 tyedye top is by far the most powerful.
ManoNegra
08-22-2007, 01:02 PM
Been discussed before plenty.
In a nutshell: planning to mod? Then go for the cheaper (RP)S13 redtop/blacktop.
Thinking of staying stock? Then S14/S15 SR is the way to go.
But imo S13 SRs in S14s are lame. Stick with the SR that matches your year, everything - fmic, wiring, etc - will match better.
srkxxdenjin
08-22-2007, 01:11 PM
if s13 srs in s14s are lame, how come i see alot of them on this forum?
kensreliableb18b
08-22-2007, 01:22 PM
if s13 srs in s14s are lame, how come i see alot of them on this forum?
people are cheap and try to save where they think they can. but whatever, do what u wanna do. if you plan on upping ur cams significantly then just go s13sr route and dont deal with the vtc shit. u want a moderate street machine get s14sr. i can go on and on on the pros and cons of both motors but u have to decide what you want to achieve in the end.
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