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sag1441
08-27-2002, 08:37 PM
im 14 and am looking to get a car and i was considering the 240sx because it has a lot of potential
if i had a 98 and dropped an sr20 in it would it be the s14 silvia? what all would i need to have an s15 silvia?
in your opinion is it better to turbocharge the k24 or whatever it is or sink in the sr20det? my dream car is an 240sx converted to and s15 silvia

icer
08-27-2002, 08:50 PM
listen man no offence but nobody is going to answer your question if you post "Please answer my questions. "
Your asking very basic questions that could be answered by doing a little research. Check some of these first:

SR info - heavythrottle.com
General 240 info - www.240sx.org (you'll learn alot trust me)

John

MasterOFDrift
08-27-2002, 08:53 PM
wow you are 14 and you are already looking for a car? You still have a year before you get your permit! Aww well here are your answers.

if i had a 98 and dropped an sr20 in it would it be the s14 silvia?

yes for the most part you would have a s14 silvia, BUT there are other differences between the two cars cosmetic (headlights body style) and mechanical (engine etc.).

what all would i need to have an s15 silvia?

You would need many things. This conversion is very expensive the front end conversion itself would cost you around $2400 (I think not really a s14 guy) and then on top of that you would need an s15 engine to srop into your 240 and at that point you would still only have a sileighty meaning your rear tailights would need to be converted. This would probably be too expensive for you.

in your opinion is it better to turbocharge the k24 or whatever it is or sink in the sr20det? my dream car is an 240sx converted to and s15 silvia

That's Ka24de not just whatever. You must RESPECT the Ka24de it can be just as powerful if not more than the Sr20DET. I would personally turbocharge the KA24DET (due to financial reason at this point) IT is a solid engine and had much potential, But the SR20DET does have a great after market backing due to the fact that it is a very popular engine to modify in Japan. It really depends on what you want.

But right now I suggest you worry about gettign your permit/License first and learning to drive a car before you even attempt to drive such a high power car. You must learn your car before you attempt to get more power. Learn technique first then when you outgrow your current power then drop a new engine in it or turbo charge. You wouldn't want to spend several thousand dollars on a conversion and then crash it. Now you must thank me for answering your questions because I am not too sure if anyone else on this board would due to the fact that you could have found out everything you wanted to know just by doing a little research, but I am bored right now and in a good mood. Your welcome

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'>

matic 240sx
08-27-2002, 08:56 PM
Have you been reading sport compact car?

bing
08-27-2002, 09:00 PM
I cant believe you just said "K24 or whatever it is"

that's amazing, we should have a link to memorable moments on Zilvia, and start it with this quote.

congradulations buddy

tnord
08-27-2002, 09:01 PM
as soon as your balls drop i'll answer your question. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

icer
08-27-2002, 09:02 PM
was i to harsh? oh well i just hate lazy people.

Bamboo628
08-27-2002, 10:11 PM
Wow, 14 is pretty young and thinkin' of buying your own car and swappin' for a sr20det?
I remember when I got my permit...I didn't think of gettin' my own car until i was 16.
I worked my ass off and saved up my money. I had to drive my parent's 89 Toyota Corrolla for some time.
Man, that was a learnin' car right there; I made my dents and scratches driving that car. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>
Those accidents...um, learning experiences really prepared me for what was to come. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
That's why when I got my 240sx, I made sure no harms happens to my babe! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Well, back to the topic...you might have to consider $$$ also.
What you want isn't going to come cheap; unless you got rich ass parents that is going to pay for you bills.
Try to be realistic here, if you were to get your 98 240sx and the sr20det right now.
You'll might need around at least $15,000.
And that is just for the car and engine!
Then there is the issue of the engine being street legal in terms of where you live.
Swapping engine isn't as easy as it sound, there are a lot of issue that needs to be addressed here.
Go for it if this is what you want but you're young and you got time to think about it.

SilviaDriver
08-27-2002, 10:28 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sag1441 @ Aug. 27 2002,9:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">im 14 and am looking to get a car and i was considering the 240sx because it has a lot of potential
if i had a 98 and dropped an sr20 in it would it be the s14 silvia? what all would i need to have an s15 silvia?
in your opinion is it better to turbocharge the k24 or whatever it is or sink in the sr20det? my dream car is an 240sx converted to and s15 silvia</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
wow..14 and already thinkin..a guy can dream, but get ur permit first at least

"if i had a 98 and dropped an sr20 in it would it be the s14 silvia?"

yes, i believe the heart of the car is its engine, and if u dropped in a SR20 yes u have a silvia even if its not RHD

"what all would i need to have an s15 silvia?"

looks or performance? if ur talkin about looks..ull NEVER have one..sorry to crush ur hopes/dreams..but u can modify ur s14 all u wish..but ull still never gonna get a TRUE s15..unless that is ur spoiled and have mommy and daddy import u one..but doubt they will import one..never heard of a place that will..except MotoRex but thats skylines..but as performance..read wat i juss said before

"the k24 or whatever it is"

*Shakes head at u*..and u want a 98 240sx!?!?! u dont even know its engine code..at least remember that!!!!!

"in your opinion is it better to turbocharge the k24 or whatever it is or sink in the sr20det?"

both are very powerful if u build it correctly. do research on sites ppl gave u and use the Search function here at Zilvia.net

IMO i plan on "sinking" in a SR20

"my dream car is an 240sx converted to and s15 silvia"

good luck..best thing u can do to ur s14 to make it look like s15 is the headlight conversion



ps. Nice Title "please answer my questions" more like lucky ppl answered it even after reading that

240 2NR
08-28-2002, 08:14 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bamboo628 @ Aug. 27 2002,11:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You'll might need around at least $15,000.
And that is just for the car and engine!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That's before insurance. &nbsp;My quote on a 97 240 when I was 22 was ~$1250 per year (no accidents one ticket with no points 4 years prior). &nbsp;Until you're 17 a realistic number is four times that and after 17 maybe double or triple that for another year or two provided you get all the discounts available and don't pick up any tickets or accidents along the way.

You have some nice dreams (hey, I still want a porsche like I did for eight years before I could drive) and don't ever give up on what you want, but sometimes they have to wait just a little longer.

And a technicality from above. &nbsp;An S14 with S15 front end isn't a sileighty since that implies a 180sx rear end, and the S14 240 rear is basically the same as the silvia rear. &nbsp;It's still considered silvia. &nbsp;The issue is chassis codes, so its an S154 silvia or something, but still all silvia.

SimpleS14
08-28-2002, 08:44 AM
Man your only 14 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

When I was your age(only 5 yrs ago) I was into girls and not trying to get a car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Anyways, its a good thing to just search the net first and get some info rather then picking up what you see in magazines or hear from your friends.

"if i had a 98 and dropped an sr20 in it would it be the s14 silvia?"

Yes and no. The engine would be from that of a S14 Silvia, however the body is different (front bumper, rear bumper. grille, spoiler, headlights, and the rear wiper), you don't have the emblems, and other small things available on the Silvia (digital A/C control and center console gauges....K's only).

"what all would i need to have an s15 silvia?"

You can never have a true S15 Silvia, but you can come close with looks and performance. But all of that is money....lots of money. Your looking at maybe $9000+ for a quality front end conversion, and S15 SR20DET swap which includes tranny and rear differental.

"in your opinion is it better to turbocharge the k24 or whatever it is or sink in the sr20det?"

K24 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> Get the engine codes right...either route is a good one, but it all comes down to money and patience. Also having some knowledge about your engine...so search the net and forums like this one.

All I have to say now is get your permit first, then the license before considering a car. You never know you just might run into a better deal or change your mind on a 240SX. Oh yea...one more thing insurance is a pain on these cars....so unless your parents are paying for everything (which I doubt)...you should take that into consideration.

ok last thing.....if you get a 240SX, don't rice it out <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

Kreator
08-28-2002, 03:20 PM
Blah. Time for some flamij.
1. use the friggin search. There were a lot of threads about shit like this.
2. KA is no worse than SR. If you never knew that follow 1.
3. wtf is it with the JDM conversions? ... wonnabes
4. And if you want an s15 conversion (that i think looks much worse than stock s14 front) than buy yerself something older, rg 89-96 240sx. Leave the beauty of the s14a for us to admire since you can't see it.

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

negular
08-28-2002, 04:04 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">as soon as your balls drop i'll answer your question.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

man... thats a little harsh, but funny nevertheless.
arent u not even old enought to get a job? how in the world do u expect to afford all this? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

drop the import magazines and start searchin man

S13Grl
08-28-2002, 06:54 PM
LOL <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>. I got my first car when I was 18. I didn't have the balls to endure embarassment and dream about cars outloud before then. Not only that, but I didn't have the balls to buy a real car before I knew how to drive and handle one.

So, at 14, you're still a kid. A real kid. Quit posting shit about cars you'd like to have, because all people will do is make fun of you. Instead, get something that's easy to drive that you can practice on, that'll cost you a low amount of money, &nbsp;that you won't feel sorry if you ding and scratch and hit and whatever. 240s are sports cars. It looks as if you didn't do any research at all, so you obviously dont' appreciate it to begin with.

Don't mean to offend you or anything... just think about it.

LanceS13
08-28-2002, 07:21 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S13Grl @ Aug. 28 2002,7:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>. I got my first car when I was 18. I didn't have the balls to endure embarassment and dream about cars outloud before then. Not only that, but I didn't have the balls to buy a real car before I knew how to drive and handle one.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
so....are you implying you have balls now? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>


j/k <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>


Hey little dude. &nbsp;If you do luck out and get a 240SX, hold out on the modifications and stuff. &nbsp;Drive it stock for at least a year...maybe two. &nbsp;You may have a license, but only experience can teach you how to drive, and a stock car is more forgiving than a high-powered, modified one. &nbsp;Go to some autocrosses and learn car control...it'll be fun and a great way to learn how to really drive a car.

BEISSEN
08-28-2002, 07:57 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">so....are you implying you have balls now? &nbsp;


j/k &nbsp;
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

&nbsp; Hahahahah this is funny and like the rest of the guys and girls have said here wait till you are old enoght to drive before making you mind up about what car you want.Trust me a 240sx is great but the insurance you will have wont be i have to pay 224.00 at 20 and with 6 points and only 2 points that are insurance.Plus i have the military discount with usaa so there are alot of factors and the sr os not tha cheap it is 2600.00 minimum.Drive for a year and feel how a car runs before yo try to sup up you car and stuff ok little guy.Plus i also pay carpayment of 224.00 as well so you are lookin at over 500.00 to have a 97-98 240sx right now and they are only becoming more popular.So they are becoming more exspensive to get and own.

whateverjames
08-28-2002, 09:06 PM
some of you people are too harsh. i agree with lance about waiting, but i don't think he has a choice but to wait <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> &nbsp;we're talking a looooot of money.

however, i did buy a 95 DOHC KA from a rich 17 year old who had the SR swap &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'>

Bamboo628
08-29-2002, 02:03 AM
Another good point 240 2NR, insurance is goin' to cost you up the ass.
When I was 21, I remember having to watch one of those video provided by the insurance company;
where people who got in accidents at a young age.
They were telling you there experiences and the hell they went through.
Then I had to write down my feelings and how I felt about they story I heard from them.
Even at 21, you are still considered a teen to those insurance company!
SR20DET swap isn't even an option for me; unless I move out of California and go to Florida or something. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
It sucks to be me right now. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>