View Full Version : Moral question / opinion needed......
SILVER97LE
08-23-2002, 11:22 AM
I good friend and neighbor of mine recently passed away. The guy was ALOT older than me (i'm 26), but he had some bad ass cars. A '70 240Z with 54,000 miles and a 1993 TT Z with 13,000 miles. The TT Z is my dream car. Silver 5-spd w/ cloth interior. Never been in the rain and always garage kept. I always talked about someday buying it from him someday and he had agreed that I was the one who should get it because I am so obsessed with it. Should I ask his widow about the car??? It has been 5 weeks since he passed and I know she could care less about it.
Second part,
i have put down my deposit for a new base model 350Z in January. I'm sure I wouldn't have a problem unloading that obligation, but I'm not sure which one I want <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
I can't have both, but I love the TT and the 350Z (even though I have never driven one).
What do you think?
Fuzzy Ewok
08-23-2002, 11:49 AM
I've always liked the TT Z, but I also love the new 350 Z without driving one yet. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> For me, the choice would be simple...I'd stick with the 350 Z.
But for you, since the TT Z is your dream car (and it sounds like it's in really good shape) it's a bit different. I guess you'll have to decide which you feel you'd be happier with in the end. I would also have a hard time deciding between one of my dream cars and the new 350 Z, so I feel your pain.
As for the widow, I'd be careful. Do you talk to her much or keep in touch? If you do, you should be able to feel when the time would be right to bring it up. I wouldn't rush it...it all depends on the situation, I guess.
SRRollingOn20s
08-23-2002, 11:51 AM
Did she know you wanted the car or if you and him talked about selling it or anything like that if so i would ask, even if not i still probably would, 5 weeks is a good amount of time, and if she doesn't care about it, she may just takt it a dealer or something, so get it before it's gone
kanekz
08-23-2002, 11:54 AM
I am sure as time passes, it will be harder and harder to find TT Z's in good condition like the one you can have on your hands. 350z is new and I am sure there will be plenty of them in the future. IMO, I would get the TT Z not only because of the age/time factor, but also its your DREAM CAR. The 350z you can get later, hey you might hit the Jackpot or the Lottery...you never know!
SILVER97LE
08-23-2002, 11:58 AM
Maybe I should write her a letter? Nah, that would probably be worse. I know her ok, but it would be just like her to take the Z in and her maxima and upgrade to a I35 or something without thinking twice. It's just something about those turbos spooling up.....
I better decide soon. Time to think hard <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>
twofortysx
08-23-2002, 12:50 PM
I'd stick with the 350z. 300TT are known to have problems with their transmission and the reliability of their turbo.
Maybe you would score and get it from her for a WAY low price cuz she might not know what she has :evil:
jyt747
08-23-2002, 02:19 PM
I would just go with the 350 or wait much longer for the TT. reason being, honestly, 5 weeks is not that long if you lose a loved one. And for someone to have the audacity to ask about a car while grieving is not the most moral thing to do. How would you feel if you were in her position? Start talking to her more and befriending her, then ask her later on when you feel comfortable enough. She'll probably sell it sooner or later anyways, so just wait till she does. Shiet, she'll prolly give it to you.
DragonReborn214
08-23-2002, 04:14 PM
SILVER97LE,
You better get your ass over there and get that Ztt. You WILL NOT get another chance to get a Ztt with such low mileage in silver 5spd unless you want to pay over the original factory sticker. Do it NOW!
Picture this - she decides its time to get rid of those cars, so she goes to a dealership and the salesman tells her "Oh, I could give you $7,000 at most because the car is so old." You will be doing her a favor.
Be honest with what you want to pay for the car, and what it is worth. She will prob give you a good deal on it.
But do not let too much time pass, or some cheapskate family member or used car salesman might pick it up for you...
SR20Fastback
08-23-2002, 04:23 PM
Is she giving you the Z32 or are you buying it, and if so how much?? I would tell her how he used to say you were the one that should inherit it. That way you can still buy the 350Z and be the coolest man alive!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>
whateverjames
08-23-2002, 04:45 PM
go for the twin turbo Z. it's faster, better aftermarket (and will be that way for a long time) and the transmission and turbos are just fine on my friend's Z. even after 121,000 miles.
i would politely ask her if she will be selling the Z in the future, and if she is, tell her to contact you first.
jdkruger4
08-23-2002, 04:59 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whateverjames @ Aug. 22 2002,6:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">go for the twin turbo Z. it's faster, better aftermarket (and will be that way for a long time) and the transmission and turbos are just fine on my friend's Z. even after 121,000 miles.
i would politely ask her if she will be selling the Z in the future, and if she is, tell her to contact you first.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I agree... I'm sure she would be much happier having someone who knew him own and cheerish the car that he loved. My best friend through HS(i just graduated this last spring) passed away a few weeks after graduation, he was ina band and i picked up his guitars from his father, he was going to trade them in, he told me thanks for coming to him first.
Just go talk to her, just because she suffered a loss doesn't mean you can't just talk to her. I'm sure she would love to hear your stories about how you talked about it all the time. Be honest with her about its value however, or it will haunt you! hehe
Also I say to get the TT, the 350Z will be made for years to come and you can always pick one up later. You will NEVER, EVER find another Z in that kind of condition in your life. And if you cant make up your mind, go talk to her and if she isnt offering it at the right price then stay with the 350z. Talk to her first, and let the price decide for you if you cant decide.
Either way you are one lucky SOB! haha take care of whichever car you get!
BEISSEN
08-23-2002, 09:21 PM
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I'd stick with the 350z. 300TT are known to have problems with their transmission and the reliability of their turbo.
Maybe you would score and get it from her for a WAY low price cuz she might not know what she has :evil:
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Ok for one a 5speed 300zxtt as far as i rmeber they never had any probs it's just that when the factory turb/s go out better to just upgrade to a better one.The ztt that was and auto"i hate auto now"is the ones that have a prob with the tranny.All the 5speed were good but the autos sucked in those years for the infinity and the z32tt.
DriftMonkey
08-23-2002, 10:25 PM
you might wanna actually try talking you disposition over with the widow. tell her how you feel and what not. its just an idea that i had on a spur of the moment but i think it might work although i've never been in this situation so i really dont know.....
Another vote for the Z32TT from me.
On another note, I'm quite surprised to find that most people who've posted in this thread seem pretty sensitive, understanding, polite, and rational.
I didn't think anyone on any internet forums were like that. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'>
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SILVER97LE
08-26-2002, 08:59 AM
I think I'm going to puke. I went by her house yesterday and saw that the TT was not there. I started sweating. I went up to the door and asked if there was anything I could do for her. After a while, I brought up the car. UNBELIEVABLE! She sold it to a grand son for $14,000. This will be the guys FIRST car. I was going to offer 20 G's at least and be willing to go to $25,000. I need time to regroup. This is definately a low point in my life. I can only look forward to the 350.
Thanks for the push. At least you guys got me to go see her.
Hopefully it's better off this way.
SR20Fastback
08-26-2002, 12:54 PM
You better find her damn grandson and beat the living shit out of him. Or offer him liek 15 or 16 for the car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
Drifting Ricer
08-26-2002, 01:11 PM
I don't think is right for a first time, young car owner to have such well keep and powerful car! You could always buy off the grand child. But then that wouldn't be right. Good idea to talk to the grand child once in a while *if you ever knew him*. Give him tips on what you know about the car.
On the bright side the 350z will be a great car. It might even be better 300z. It sure looks that way.
whateverjames
08-26-2002, 05:44 PM
damn sorry to hear about that. hey at least your getting the 350Z. maybe it was meant to be, for you to have the newer Z.
haha. it would be tempting to bargain with the grandson, but if my grandpa had and old hot rod i had my eyes on for a long time (or hell, even that twin turbo Z), if someone even tried bargaining with me about something that may have been a memory like that Z, i'd kick them in the nutz!
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