Federal 595RS COMP. Tire- opinions?

[gotta240]

NOTE- THIS IS REGARDING THE RS COMP. SERIES TIRE....not the normal 595.

Looking for a sticky set of front tires for MOSTLY track use(road race/autox). The car however, is driven around town on weekends and DRIVEN to the track.

Last set were the BFG KDW. I loved the tires and was tempted to buy another set until getting pointed in a different direction in my last "slot or not to slot" coilover thread.

No one recomended the federal 595rs competition tire... Are they not great tires or has no one tried them yet? They are extremely affordable(which kinda scares me) but seem like they have decent design..

I've used federals in the past for drifting and LOVED them(didn't chunk at ALL), but i'm nervous about using these RS tires as a GRIP tire...

Suggestions?!

[Jung918]

I have asked people and not a lot of people seem to have known about them. I would have tried a set but I just picked up some rt-615. If I didn't already order the Falkens, I would have picked up a set. They are pretty cheap so pick up a set and give us a review.

[brokeAs240sx]

Federal 595RS are definitely sticky, and the price is very good. You can talk with the guys from FRSport about it, one of the driver's, Cat, has run both Azenis 615 & 595RS. She's even got a few SCCA veterans considering trying out the 595rs, now THAT's some driving skill! The cars are also all daily driven.

There is an SCCA AutoX they will be attending this weekend in Fontana - Sat & Sun. Come by and you can see all the different tires people run, should be a pretty decent 240 turn out also.

[articdragon192]

How do they deal with heat?

[itsmeviet]

grassroots motorsports tested the 595RS, azenis 615, Bridgestone RE-01R, and the Advan Neovas. For autocross, azenis finished first followed by neovas, RE-01R, then 595RS. For the track, azenis got first, followed by re-01, neovas, and then 595rs. the article also says how the azenis are about on par with the re-01 and neovas once heated up, but on autocross they should be good since you get time to cool them down.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-344939.html

[steve shadows]

thats funny considering im thinking of switching to bridgestone from azenis

I heard the bridgestone have better acceptance of heat, ie larger tracks for more laps.

I need something for wsir big track

[SlidewayzS14]

since were on the subject of tires, what is a good drift tire? i'm about the throw on some Toyo Proxes T1-R's. any thoughts

[OptionZero]

the regular 595 ss or wutever

[A Spec Products]

Tires are relative to the person using them

Just cause someone else likes them doesn't mean you will too

Try them out once

If they fit your budget and perform to your standards, use em again

If not, then try another tire

[gusb232]

Does any one know Where I can get A set of these in
215/45/17
I called FRsport, citytireonline and Eauto in sangabriel. they are on Back order.
?Any where else I can that has them at around $80.?
(Tucker Tire quoted me $95 instock next week.)

[MrChow]

Does any one know Where I can get A set of these in
215/45/17
I called FRsport, citytireonline and Eauto in sangabriel. they are on Back order.
?Any where else I can that has them at around $80.?
(Tucker Tire quoted me $95 instock next week.)
check on these forums....

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=147757

[gusb232]

check on these forums....

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=147757

Ya thanks.
I didnt mention but I called them also. Great price but they are out of stock.

[MrChow]

Oh.. Um.. The other places I know about really suck on prices.

I think Azenis 615 are better for there prices.

[brainfood]

Tires are relative to the person using them

Just cause someone else likes them doesn't mean you will too

Try them out once

If they fit your budget and perform to your standards, use em again

If not, then try another tire


So true, I hear all the time how great of a tire the 595ss is and I dont like them at all, not nearly as much grip as I want from a tire. But people tell me all the time how "grippy" they are. I have since switched to rt615's and love them, but I am trying a set of 595rs's on my Honda Fit for the next track day so we will see. Since its a daily too, cheap and sticky are a good combination I dont need all out stickyness. Might try the rs's on the new car when it goes together too.

[itsmeviet]

So true, I hear all the time how great of a tire the 595ss is and I dont like them at all, not nearly as much grip as I want from a tire. But people tell me all the time how "grippy" they are. I have since switched to rt615's and love them, but I am trying a set of 595rs's on my Honda Fit for the next track day so we will see. Since its a daily too, cheap and sticky are a good combination I dont need all out stickyness. Might try the rs's on the new car when it goes together too.

I think they're "grippy" for under $300. But the 615's murder them.

[Dousan_PG]

So true, I hear all the time how great of a tire the 595ss is and I dont like them at all, not nearly as much grip as I want from a tire. But people tell me all the time how "grippy" they are. I have since switched to rt615's and love them, but I am trying a set of 595rs's on my Honda Fit for the next track day so we will see. Since its a daily too, cheap and sticky are a good combination I dont need all out stickyness. Might try the rs's on the new car when it goes together too.

what was your pressure at some stupid ass 40psi or something?
yeah it wont griop

my friends run 40-50PSI (dpends on track/conditions, etc)
on 265 Neovas and RE01s and RevSpecs at irwindale and at D1.
i set tires at 400KPA cold for irwindale on a 350HP FC3S
hahaha

ss595s are great
cheap
good
cheap
good

thats all u need.
but i run better tiresup front
want to try the RS one day

[brainfood]

what was your pressure at some stupid ass 40psi or something?
yeah it wont griop

my friends run 40-50PSI (dpends on track/conditions, etc)
on 265 Neovas and RE01s and RevSpecs at irwindale and at D1.
i set tires at 400KPA cold for irwindale on a 350HP FC3S
hahaha

ss595s are great
cheap
good
cheap
good

thats all u need.
but i run better tiresup front
want to try the RS one day

lol, yeah I ran them high in the rear and they were too narrow for my tastes anyway. My main problem with them wasnt grip out back (which they didnt have but I was running them high psi and didnt really care that much) but was the front end grip with them, struggled with setup on them even caused me to change front spring rates which in the end worked out fine since the car was much better setup in the end. But yeah real tires > federals but for the price they are good tires, reason I am putting them on the fit

[overb0ost]

i don't see how the rt-615 can beat the re-01s or even the neovas

235 on a 7.5" rim? wtf?

[brainfood]

have you driven on 615's, they are pure awesomeness. Never driven on the neova's or the bridgstones though

[sicarius82]

everyones seems to forget that the hankook RS-2's are rising star. these tires i heard run similar to the old RT-215. i'm going to try these out. but try the 595RS. heard they are pretty good. not as good as the other tires in it's class, but definately cheaper than them. the good thing about the 595RS compared to the RT-615's, you don't have to cool down the tires (as tested by FRSport).

[gotta240]

We'll see how they work... just got them mounted and balanced...

Kinda excited as i spoke to another s14 owner who was running my same tire sizes, but in the 615's. They JUST switched the fronts to the 595rs and say they like them better so far. They claimed the 615's would slide around when too hot, where the rs doesn't....

we shall see.

[codyace]

Im' surprized to see the love for Azenis's 615's on here....I guess none of you guys ever drive over 50 in the rain then?

Hankook Ventus RS-2: Cost the same as the 615's, don't gum up as fast, are 100 percent better in the rain, and brake even better

Federal 595SS: Everything I said above for the Ventus's applies here. I originally was going to get some R compounds for end of year, but really can't with school. I broke down and wanted to try a set out in the rear. LOVE THEM. Only one track event on them so far, but couldn't complain one bit. Also work greatttttt in the rain :D

[brainfood]

I love rs2's but dont get a discount on them so I dont run them. I love the 615's though and never drive in the rain so thats why I wouldnt notice any problems with them. Hell we get rain like 2 days a year. I heard that the federal 595rs werent that great in the rain either. We will see since they are going on my daily so they will def. see some rain.

[[email protected]]

i like the 595RS front, rear. rsr used them in the s2k, henry used them in his fc. i've used them in my s13 and a shop grip evo. if your drive line is weak, stay away from 595rs. broke henry's diff/axle and broke my tranny. amongst the "sticky" tire class, i like the rs and ss the most. but i'm bias.. i heart feddys.

[brainfood]

Put the Rs's on the Fit yesterday. They are pretty sticky def. pleased with them. Probably not as sticky as the 615's but damn good tire for the cost I would say. Pretty sure they wont last too long on my daily though.

[Grenade180sx]

i have run re01rs and they are a great tire which is why the cost so much. R compund tread wear is 180. but federals both the 595 and the rs are amazing for the cost they handle heat great and can take many laps before dieing it also depends on ur car setup ie camber toe blah lbah blah on how long any tire will last

[sicarius82]

i have run re01rs and they are a great tire which is why the cost so much. R compund tread wear is 180. but federals both the 595 and the rs are amazing for the cost they handle heat great and can take many laps before dieing it also depends on ur car setup ie camber toe blah lbah blah on how long any tire will last

i agree that the federals are the best bang for buck, but we are discussing which may be the best tires. and which r compound tires are 180 tread wear?? the ones i know of are ~100 and less (toyo proxes ra-1 ~100, yokohama a032r ~60...). 180's are the rt-615's, re01's, hankook rs-2, federal 595rs, advan neova class tires... which are a bit different from r compounds.

[Koopa Troopa]

thats funny considering im thinking of switching to bridgestone from azenis

I heard the bridgestone have better acceptance of heat, ie larger tracks for more laps.

I need something for wsir big track


Yeah, I will be switching to RE01R from Azenis RT615's as well....Or I may just buy another set of wheels and put some A048's on them... Money will be the deciding factor for that though.

As far as my support for anything made by Federal? Good for drifting and gymkhana use as a rear tire, mostly due to their price. I would never use them for anything else though. My friend had Federals on his GTR do to being broke and his speeds dropped about 40 kp/h from when he was using Neova AD07's.

He described the Federals as "scary."

[gotta240]

But were they the RS? The RS is a TOTALLY different tire than the regular 595.

[mehsilvia]

Yeah, the 595's are scary while Grip racing. Probably why they are a preferred drift tire. Not that sticky and damn freaky in the corners.

The 595RS's are a whole nother story. Most of us RT615 owners are looking at these new 595RS's as an alternative but having a hard time getting good reviews.

I was hopeful that the 595RS's were cheaper, but it looks like they are priced exactly the same as the RT615's.

Ill most likely run the 595RS's next and just do my own comparison.

[brainfood]

Yeah, the 595's are scary while Grip racing. Probably why they are a preferred drift tire. Not that sticky and damn freaky in the corners.

The 595RS's are a whole nother story. Most of us RT615 owners are looking at these new 595RS's as an alternative but having a hard time getting good reviews.

I was hopeful that the 595RS's were cheaper, but it looks like they are priced exactly the same as the RT615's.

Ill most likely run the 595RS's next and just do my own comparison.

Yeah I can get 615's and RS's for about the same price and would prefer 615's but federal has a lot more tire choices.
I totally agree that 595 ss's are scary and not grippy at all but I hear time and time again how "sticky" they are. I bought a set expecting a sticky tire and was seriously dissapointed. But as I said I like the rs's on the Fit I will have more input from them after a track day on the 8th

[bigOdom1]

after looking for reviews on them i had no luck. needless to say i got the rt615 and haven't regretted it

[Gumballf355]

WTF?! IMO Bridgestone RE-01Rs are quite a bit better than the RT615s... Neovas are right behind the the Bridgestones but the RT615s don't really compete with the RE-01Rs... only better aspect of the Neovas is that they seem to hold better constant lateral G's than the Bridgestones as well having more crisp inital turn in, but Brigestones still offer faster consistant laptimes. On lap times RT-615s trail the two tires by quite alot. I've never had the chance to try the Federals so I have no input on that.

[steve shadows]

Yeah, I will be switching to RE01R from Azenis RT615's as well....Or I may just buy another set of wheels and put some A048's on them... Money will be the deciding factor for that though.

As far as my support for anything made by Federal? Good for drifting and gymkhana use as a rear tire, mostly due to their price. I would never use them for anything else though. My friend had Federals on his GTR do to being broke and his speeds dropped about 40 kp/h from when he was using Neova AD07's.

He described the Federals as "scary."

I dont think im going to even mess with the re01 now, going straight to Nitto's in a month or so when i burn up my azenis and hankooks.

And ill burn them up fast.

I need something super sticky, since ill be at about 450whp.

[Grenade180sx]

i agree that the federals are the best bang for buck, but we are discussing which may be the best tires. and which r compound tires are 180 tread wear?? the ones i know of are ~100 and less (toyo proxes ra-1 ~100, yokohama a032r ~60...). 180's are the rt-615's, re01's, hankook rs-2, federal 595rs, advan neova class tires... which are a bit different from r compounds.


the RE01R are R compounds, and just because people don't read it i got a neg rep. ROFL gimme a break:keke:

[Koopa Troopa]

RE01R's are not R compounds...

They're just an upgraded version of the re01

[KA24DESOneThree]

RE01R's are not R compounds...

They're just an upgraded version of the re01

Truth.

I have 235/40R17 RT615s on my e36 daily and 245/40R17 RE01Rs on my S13. I actually love the RT615s... they're sticky, predictable, and actually aren't wearing all that horribly for how much the fat pig weighs. I have yet to overheat them, and I'm not a sedate driver. I'm deciding whether or not I want to run them in 255/40 for my next tire.

The RE01Rs are ridiculous on the S13. Grip everywhere, but down compared to the AD07s. My driving was also off at the last event I went to, and I'm hugely embarrassed when I think back. I was jerky and overdrove the car. They're hugely usable on the street and are wearing very nicely. I just feel bad that they've been sitting around so much.

My feeling about driving in the rain with summer tires: drive the speed limit and you're golden. The only incident I've ever had was instantaneous understeer on turn-in with RT215s in my e30, but I corrected and averted disaster.

[steve shadows]

^ but how much power are you making

Im going to be in the high 4s to low 500 whp ranges.

I need something extremely sticky.

probably nittos or advans

[Grenade180sx]

i stand corrected :) i run the reo1r's on a 400 whp 180sx and they are fantastic traction is always available, and they take heat like its a joke

[Koopa Troopa]

^ but how much power are you making

Im going to be in the high 4s to low 500 whp ranges.

I need something extremely sticky.

probably nittos or advans


RE01R's are good for a 450 whp car... If not then use A048's.