Black or Red??

[pl'ss13]

Hey all..

Try to decide with motor i should go with and want to have it before summer time!!

For Daily Driver ~~ 92 240sx

1. S14 SR blacktop
2. S13 newner version black top
3. S13 Black top
4. S13 Red top

got coupe answer from my friend and most of them want me to go with S14 Black top as we know it is rare and price is going up.

[jayeighty]

if it doesn't matter just get the newest ones

[eastcoastS14]

s14 blacktop

but otherwise, CA18DET for something less common, or RB for more power

if youve got the money 2JZ FTW:werd:

[coreansurfer]

go rb! we can do it for you! pm me if you're interested

[SimpleSexy180]

ka-t



:cough:

[Dousan_PG]

all s14s sr20dets are black top
why do people say s14 blacktop
makes no sense.

prcing going up/ where?
its been the same for a while

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[jspecusa]

my choices
1. s15 sr
2. s14 sr
3. s13 sr

[5t341tH]

theres an s13 newer blacktop?
i have my mind set on a blacktop sr from 94 and on

[CKAMC]

s15sr with s14 transmission(6->5 conversion for stronger gear box).

second place is a straight s14sr, make sure you find out if its a zenki or kouki s14sr motor.

ka's.... "MEH"

inline 6's/v6/v8... thats not very daily honestly, more like a money pit

[sTalnOut]

go with RB man =)

[koukikat180sx]

SR is cool and all, but if its your daily take into consideration that you might get harassed by the cops. +1 for the newer sr. :)

[ECR33S14]

Of course i am biased to the RB but i would go with a red top.

[bwake 5]

i put the s14 kouki in my hatchback,

pain in the butt to get the wiring for it.... but i think it will all be worthwhile

[chibo]

theres an s13 newer blacktop?
i have my mind set on a blacktop sr from 94 and on

97-98 Type-X, I'm not aware if there were any differences between it and older engines other than the ECU.

[jspecusa]

97-98 Type-X, I'm not aware if there were any differences between it and older engines other than the ECU.

dunno how many time it's mention on zilvia.
type X is a trim, the kouki 180sx had type r and type s also.
the chuki 180sx had type x also.
also you can't use year because japanese release year is different then us.
they sold s14 silvia in 1994.

[Wabash9000]

get a s14 blacktop and paint the valve cover hot pink. that will make it different than everyone elses and then you can say you have the only pinktop sr in the world....

[s13gold]

redtop s13...
its the cheapest from the list...
-just buy from a reputable dealer
-whomever swaps must do a good clean swap **take it to a machine shop then replace all gaskets**
-fmic, full exhaust, fuel pump,nice bov...

then you're good to go for the summer.

[WilloW]

From your list, I would have to say S14 SR.

[Driven08]

ka-t



:cough:

I second that cough :D

[mr_240sx]

s14sr ftw....but i prefer the s14 notchtop sr instead of the black top s14sr:keke:

[95240s14]

VQ or VG, whichever you can afford.

I think there are more engines you can drop in a 240 than you can in a civic:)
But like the civic, you really can't go wrong with any of them.

[azndoc]

I suggest S14 SR

Why, because that's what I'm upgrading to soon from my redtop. Plus I test drive cars with them in and it feels like night and day from a redtop IMHO.

[exitspeed]

Where's ThatGuy's suggestion?

[pl'ss13]

mmm... me S14 SR because is kinda hard to find for now plus more power for sure then s13.

[axiomatik]

Where's ThatGuy's suggestion?


I'll chime in for him since he's on vacation:

LS1.

[Lordrandall]

Beat me to it.

LS1

[Options13]

how much HP does a stock s14 Sr have compared to a black top s13 sr? ...

[slow40]

built ka > sr jdm bs

[pl'ss13]

how much HP does a stock s14 Sr have compared to a black top s13 sr? ...

220hp on the stock 14 top

[G_sl1de]

If your funds are appropriate.
Get an S14 or S15 SR.
I was always taught to do it right the first time.
I swapped in a Red top and am happy, but i want more. so im getting ready to swap in an s15sr or ....maybe an RB25...mayyybe

So get the Best one first, dont waste time and money learning through the trail by error way of doing things

listen to good advise. i should have

[Options13]

lol im probably going to save up $8000 for an sr swap.. including stripping the whole car re-painting it... new interior and engine goodies..lol 8000 might not be enough..

[sleepy_s13]

get a s13 black top and put a s14/s15 turbo and your straight

[0100]

lol im probably going to save up $8000 for an sr swap.. including stripping the whole car re-painting it... new interior and engine goodies..lol 8000 might not be enough..

Screw the paint and take the eight large and get a super low milage LS2/t56.

[vanish1]

inline 6's/v6/v8... thats not very daily honestly, more like a money pit

yea......thats why the RB series came in family sedans in japan/AUS.

[Options13]

lol, i dunno... usually 240's have rough paint jobs... plus i want a goldish color.. or maybe a gunmetal color

[Cloud9]

S13 blacktop, or LS6

[Options13]

lol why would you wanna put a comero engine in a 240... its heavy as fuck.. and isnt that an old ass engine? ..

[LongGrain]

lol why would you wanna put a comero engine in a 240... its heavy as fuck.. and isnt that an old ass engine? ..
umm..."CAMARO" and...the LS6 isnt from a "CAMARO", and its not heavy, its like...all aluminum...and its only been on the market like 7 years or so now in the C5 corvette Z06...and produces 405hp, 400tq...badass motor

ca18det ftmfw

[jskateborders]

all s14s sr20dets are black top
why do people say s14 blacktop
makes no sense.

prcing going up/ where?
its been the same for a while

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i think they say it to imply that the blacktop is s14 rather than the s14 is blacktop if you get what im saying.
like i have a blacktop thats from an s14

[Options13]

ohh lol, corvette engine.. hmm

[ms!3]

redtop, slight rebuild, s14 t28. just as good as the s14 sr. none of that vvt shit works after you get cams anyways.

[CKAMC]

redtop, slight rebuild, s14 t28. just as good as the s14 sr. none of that vvt shit works after you get cams anyways.

there is more to it than just the VVT....

yea......thats why the RB series came in family sedans in japan/AUS.

thats because people leave them alone in those type of cars... mild mods... dont intend to track the cars... 240 owners just abuse them. finding parts and fast = money pit when you want it now.

[ms!3]

there is more to it than just the VVT....

all im aware of is that its newer. but then again im not much of an sr guy.

[CKAMC]

all im aware of is that its newer. but then again im not much of an sr guy.

there are differences beyond injectors, turbo's and sensors even among the s14 and s15 motors. Some people notice the differences... others don't see it amounting to anything special.

its like people who drink coffee, some can tell the differences between the different roastings of a bean... others just say "its just fucking coffee".

Its like people who have ITB's on their car, some know how to use them, others have it just for show.

[Lordrandall]

ohh lol, corvette engine.. hmm

The LS1 was in the Camaro and Corvette, the LS2 in the GTO & Corvette, LS6/7 in the Corvette Z06.

The LS1/6-speed combo is actually lighter than the KA24DE/5-speed combo.

[Jonas427]

The LS1/6-speed combo is actually lighter than the KA24DE/5-speed combo.
Is that true? I know it doesn't throw the weight off that much, but I'm not sure if that's true. I remember Henson compared the two. They compared a t56 ls1 with an auto ka, which is sort of bull. I have a hard time believing that. They do have vested interests in the ls1/t56 being lighter. Can you give us a link to an unbiased comparison?

[Lordrandall]

Is that true? I know it doesn't throw the weight off that much, but I'm not sure if that's true. I remember Henson compared the two. They compared a t56 ls1 with an auto ka, which is sort of bull. I have a hard time believing that. They do have vested interests in the ls1/t56 being lighter. Can you give us a link to an unbiased comparison?

Yup, it's true. I've seen it several places not just Hinson. Let Google be your friend.

The LS is lighter than the KA
The T56 is heavier than the 5-speed.

Together, LS1/T56 is still lighter than the KA/5-speed.
Since the added weight of the T56 is lower and centered in the car, not such a big deal. And when you compare where the weight is in the car against a SR swap, you don't have all the IC piping out front.

[Ca_laurier]

they sold s14 silvia in 1994.

started late 1993 actually. well with the Q's

[ManoNegra]

S15 or S14 SR if planning on running stockish
S13 SR if building up motor
This thread parties like is 1999...
:lockd:

[pl'ss13]

5000$ for s14 everything + labor ...... and no AC

then~

i guess im going for the s13 black top with AC ...

[nevaland9]

i had a KA-T and loved it butttt.... aluminum blocks FTW!