My first drifting experience

[Silviaholic]

Unintentional drift, also know as Curb Basher 2000.


On a very light bend, my sisters 1993 Toyota Camry's rear tires lost traction. I noticed this, and acted accordingly. I feathered off the throttle, and counter steered without over doing it. This started to handle the dift well, but when the front wheels caught more grip my foot hit the gas hard. immediatly as if my instinct, I released the gas fully and countered the other way...otherwise known as I fucked up. Snap oversteer and three seconds later (aka enternity) my sisters Camry needs a new axle, transaxle, frame and transmission in general. Not to mention the rotor which snapped in three quarters.


Let me tell you all this. Driftin, whether it be your thing or not, is a very professional form of driving. Like any technique with anything, it takes controled practice of a long period of time. Drifting is no joke, you are intentionally loosing grip to "help" you better handle a corner. Warning in advance, dont come to Jersey and drif around my block, this shit is so not cool I will blow up your 180/s13/s14 and that will hurt me more than it will hurt you to be in it.

Im an asshole, thank you and good night


edit: forgot the point of my story.  My 180 project will be pushed aside until I can atleast afford to help my parents who hate me now, with the expenses.  We will see what is up, and I will be intouch soon.

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Let's see. You had a bad driving experience drifting accidentally. It was your very first time drifting and it was on a city road in the wrong kind of car to drift (front wheel drive camry). Since you fucked up trying to recover and broke your sister's car, we're all morons for drifting our tuned 240sx's with RWD, racing suspension and tires, especially given that many of us here have tons of experience (I don't claim to personally but I'm learning). Does that sum up your post?

Need I flame you, or will my reclarification suffice?

[NervGS]

You didn't drift...

As you said, you fucked up.

-glenn

*Edit* Whoops, read it wrong &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[srJOEYdet]

oversteering a camry is not drifting. Now i have not tried to drift yet, but as soon as my car is fixed I will find some private proporty somewhere and have at it. Maybe my freinds dads bowling center.

Also- silviaholic said it was professional, not that it wasn't.

[basemies]

if you would've countersteered and mashed the gas then whipped it the other way, your sister's camry would still be alright.

[Yoshi]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (basemies @ Aug. 07 2002,8:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if you would've countersteered and mashed the gas then whipped it the other way, your sister's camry would still be alright.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Umm... isn't htat what he just said he did? &nbsp;Assuming this is all within the same curve, he was gonna hit something most likely anyhow. &nbsp;Being that its FF he could've tapped the brakes to throw inertia forward to counter being pulled to the outside of the curve, snap oversteer would've probably kicked in as it's a camry with soft luxary suspension, and would have thrown him back toward the inside of the curve.

He didn't say which side he hit or the resulting details but I'm pretty sure what u just said was re-iterating what he did.

...oh, and I wouldn't count it as drifting <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> &nbsp;Glad you're okay tho! that's the important thing! &nbsp;Hope your sister forgives u.

[AKADriver]

no, he said he lifted and spun around.

I used to send my Neon into lift throttle oversteer all the time... &nbsp;it was stupid but fun. &nbsp;Just roll into the throttle to pull the back end back in line with the front.

[Anubis]

drifting is something you WANT to do, it dosent just happen..learning proper vehicle control first is key, then how a car works is also imortant, and finally, mastering weight shift is essential. No one ever saw a pretty drifting car that works for a living, their all messed up, thus Sil80 was born &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[Yoshi]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AKADriver @ Aug. 07 2002,9:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">no, he said he lifted and spun around.

I used to send my Neon into lift throttle oversteer all the time... it was stupid but fun. Just roll into the throttle to pull the back end back in line with the front.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
hmmm.. okay , I guess I misunderstood what he was trying to say? i dunno. &nbsp;doesn't matter really I guess, the important thing is no one was hurt

[sil80]

Why was I born??? hehehe j/k

Speed racer you so did not drift. You took a corner faster then you should have and lost control of the car. Its called lack of driving experience. Now that is normally ok since its all part of the experience of driving. In your case though it was not your car and pretty much makes you look like an ass to people that love you. So get another job, work your ass off and help your sister/family get the ride fixed.
Now on the subject of ass-dragging/drifting a FF. It can be done and is pretty simple. My roommates Civic EF9(my old car) has one stiff ass suspension setup on stock tires. The rear end brakes loose very easy w/o the ebrake just doest stay out there long. Now we also use the ebrake(assdragging) a lot on it to see how far we can push it and to my suprise &nbsp;it hangs out there with the best of them with the proper ebrake controlling. Well only after we put an 91 si engine in it(was a DX) and a ton of practice/spin outs.

Well im glad your alright and hope you get your 240 project rolling again soon...

[Silviaholic]

I call it drifting because the ass end drifted out. &nbsp;I am not anti-drift, what ever you tickles your pickle go for it. &nbsp;Just not residential. &nbsp;As for the lack of dricing experience, bullshit to that. &nbsp;Doing thrity five around a light bend i highly doubt anyone could consider that as speeding. &nbsp;I measured the tread of the rear tires yesterday and its about 3mm, so i think that should shead some light on the situation.

I hit the curb on my left, on the passenger side. I thank those of you who have offered condolences, it is much appreciated.

[HippoSleek]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NervGS @ Aug. 07 2002,9:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You didn't drift...

As you said, you fucked up.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That's about it.

Remember, in a fwd car, oversteer is saved with gas gas gas! &nbsp;But I bet you know that now. &nbsp;I wouldn't have thought a Camry would be subject to snap oversteer - but I guess bald tires and wet roads would be a terriffic aid.

Sorry to hear about it. &nbsp;Good luck hunting parts!

[Yosho]

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Well at least you know what you did wrong (lift thottle) and hopefully that won't be your instinct next time. &nbsp;We've all been there at some point and sometimes you get lucky.. and sometimes (like this time) you don't. &nbsp;At least no one was hurt. &nbsp;That's the really important part.

Just wondering, but what type of tires were on the camary and were they down (or past) the tread wear guides? &nbsp;Were there any dry rot cracks in the rubber? &nbsp;If so, it was really your parrents/sisters fault for having an unsafe car.

I remember my first car in the early 90's was my family's old '87 Merc. Sable. &nbsp;That car would spin soooo easily when it started to rain. &nbsp;I probably lost control of it more than a dozen times just driving around in the rain here in FL. &nbsp;Basically the tires sucked... but most people who aren't into performance (like my parrents) know nothing about tires or why the tread compound/patter of performance tires are safer in the rain. &nbsp;It's taken me years to teach them.