Attn Bikirom users, need some feeback

[ApexRK]

I have a 97 Kouki with S14 SR which is basically stock, the car came with a Bikirom V2 megaboard uninstalled and before I install it I wanted some feedback from people who are currently using it.
I have read on the Bikirom forums of a lot of users having problems with software bugs and sometimes being down for days/weeks on end waiting for fixes. Are any of you guys having issues? how reliable is it? should I have anything to worry about for a daily driver?
Thanks

any other feedback would be great

[onepuff]

i've been using it on my 95 ka for about a month so far and no problems. i'm not boosted or anything yet so i haven't played around with tuning it too much. datalogging on it kinda sucks. i ended up getting a consult cable. i did have to disconnect the consult wires that go to the bikiboard though. green blue and yellow iirc. have you checked out the biki forums?

[BigVinnie]

Theres always updates for Biki, the technology is getting better you should of seen it last year.
What year/model SR are you using?

[ApexRK]

its a zenki SR.

so in order to log with Consult I need to get a consult cable? it doesn't log using the USB?

you see I really like what the Biki has to offer, but i can't afford to be down waiting for updates or waiting for any kind of help thats why something like the Greddy Emanage Ultimate sounds tempting. Its MAP based and although its a piggyback, its very close to being a standalone, but its more money.

[S14DB]

Sell, buy powerFC.

[ApexRK]

PowerFC=$$$$ I don't have $1000 to spend

[NemeGuero]

Don't use Biki.

Its great, but way behind where it needs to be.

[ApexRK]

^have you used it before?

[NemeGuero]

Yes, on my ka-t. It was cool at first.. until I tried to find someone to tune the sumbitch for me.

[ApexRK]

was it not user friendly when it came to tuning?

[onepuff]

i don't see why it should be that hard to tune. datalogging doesn't seem to work very well, at least for me it doesn't. It datalogs through the usb and in bikisoft, but it sure wasn't as fast as the consult cable is. just my experience. I would try it out if I were you since you already have it. The installation is the most important part. It is not heavily supported like some of the honda DIY tuning software, but it's the closest thing we have for Nissans. It has a promising future though.

[onepuff]

Also the diagnostics portion of consult in bikisoft does not work. You can't reset codes or anything. Another reason i got the consult cable. Plus there's no cool looking gauges in bikisoft.

[ApexRK]

I have a feeling i might be selling this, not something I really need right now anyways since the car is stock and will be a year before I have engine upgrades going.

[NemeGuero]

i don't see why it should be that hard to tune.

'Cuz you haven't tried it yet.

I had my bikirom ~2years and got rid of it months ago..
I'm done dealing what that garbage.

Even the guy that convinced me bikirom was worth something is crapping out and selling his.

BikiR0m = Fail.

[onepuff]

well hopefully the bugs will be worked out by the time i get boosted.

[NemeGuero]

I was hoping the same thing for over a year. hahahaha

[ApexRK]

thanks for the advice guys

[onepuff]

I was hoping the same thing for over a year. hahahaha

So what were the main problems for you? What engine? What was the problem with getting it tuned? Let me know what kind of **** i have to look forward to.

[NemeGuero]

So what were the main problems for you? What engine? What was the problem with getting it tuned? Let me know what kind of **** i have to look forward to.

Yes, on my ka-t. It was cool at first.. until I tried to find someone to tune the sumbitch for me.



Nobody wants to tune the bitch. There is NO real-time updating. You have to reset the ECU everytime you upload a new map with changes. Its HOURS upon HOURS of tuning.. Either you figure out how to ignition tune and fuel tune yourself or you spend the $$ paying someone else to.. and at the end of the day you've spent as much as getting a REAL management AND the cost of tuning an easy to tune one.

You need EGT sensors, lambda sensors, knock sensor equipment and then know what the fuck you're doing with all of that.

And months of driving and changing maps.. and logging more AFRs..

[onepuff]

so what did you switch over to? i've learned a lot over the past two years playing around with my integra and tuning it with crome. egt and knock sensor are not absolutely necessary to get a decent tune that you could fix up in a few hours of dyno time.

[NemeGuero]

I got rid of my KA-T. I'm NA now..

WHEN I do it again.. I'll be using Haltech.

Knock is necessary unless you want to destroy your engine. Ignition timing is the most important and to use it in bikirom you need to get an aftermarket knock sensor.. hook it up to an amp.. wire it up to head phones and then try to match the wave files to the AFR datalogs and see if you can find where the knock is occuring.

Its not fun. I've done countless hours of research only to say.. FUCK bikirom. haha

[onepuff]

well at least ka's are relatively cheap to replace if it does blow up. it should be fun though. good luck getting boosted again. there's nothing like taking out an unsuspecting ricer. haha

[S14DB]

So, the solution is not to get an engine management solution that works. Just pop KA's like Pez?

[onepuff]

Yea, i'll get good at pulling the engine that way. Maybe do a wire tuck while i'm at it. I'm confident things with biki will get worked out. Was the powerFC perfect right out of the box for every application when it was released?

[NemeGuero]

LOL @ bikirom getting worked out.

[drftsub]

Unless haltech has updated to something new, they dont have the ability to run knock correction ( as of the last one I used , but that was a little while ago ) you may want to consider megasquirt, unless you dont want to tune yourself, but bang for the buck if you are diy and want a standalone it doesnt get much better for the price.

just fyi if you didnt already know..
thx



I got rid of my KA-T. I'm NA now..

WHEN I do it again.. I'll be using Haltech.

Knock is necessary unless you want to destroy your engine. Ignition timing is the most important and to use it in bikirom you need to get an aftermarket knock sensor.. hook it up to an amp.. wire it up to head phones and then try to match the wave files to the AFR datalogs and see if you can find where the knock is occuring.

Its not fun. I've done countless hours of research only to say.. FUCK bikirom. haha

[NemeGuero]

megasquirt after all the details and goodies comes out to the same price as a good standalone unit.

haltech may not have knock correction but it has other means of handling ignition tuning that the BIKIROM does not.

[BigVinnie]

AEM EMS is the best alternative route for using our stock harness without a whole new wire job.
Haltech is expensive with to much wiring.
Mega squirt is a shit load of wiring and modification.
Biki needs to many updates and just glitches most of the time.
It's all a toss up the preferences are different for everybody.
About a year ago I was intrigued with the biki then I lost my optimism, but one day if all works well and the technology gets better it could prove to be better than what it is now at an affordable price.
Now isfthere was some suitable emulation for OBD2 then we have the ball rolling with some plug and play.
If you guys are tired of tuning why not do the 1G DSM ecu swap and wire that bitch in it's good for 400HP. You can get that whole set up for under $200 and then just deal with the headache of wiring it in...LOL.

[S14DB]

And people wonder why their shit don't run right... LOL!

[NemeGuero]

And people wonder why their shit don't run right... LOL!

metamucil can help with that

[S14DB]

metamucil can help with that
Is that plug and play? Piggy-back? Have a knock sensor?

[NemeGuero]

Haha I've never used it but its supposed to have this feature to keep your tail pipes clean by eliminating back firing..

[lazierhobo]

i got biki over a year ago. i was constantly waiting for updates, and once i did get it working, it didnt really work that great. i wouldnt consider the data loging usable in any way. all it comes out to is a bunch of squiggly lines on the screen.

i saved up my money and got a haltech, best thing i ever did.
the software is amazing, and there is real time support.

the only problem being knock detection, there are options for this. you can either wire a knock decoder up and have it as an analog input to the haltech and set it up that way, or you can get a separate module that will handle all the detection and retarding.

[NemeGuero]

Yeah, thats basically what I said a year ago.
Old thread buddy.

[Def]

lol at this thread

Of course you can't update a Bikirom Megaboard in realtime, it's just a daughterboard that you can flash via USB. If it takes your tuner hours upon hours to tune a MAF based Nissan at WOT then you are getting ripped off. It should take anywhere from 3-10 pulls to get WOT fueling and timing set(10 being very very conservative on the max number). It usually takes me around 3-4.

I will admit the Bikisoft software is a bit annoying how he keeps updating the UI without fixing small bugs, but there is NOTHING unreliable about the board. I've had one of the first production runs and my car has never had an issue related to the board that would prevent it from running. It always loads a file, and then after that it's just like a daughterboard running on the stock ECU - nothing to it.

The datalogging and maptrace is pretty good compared to a regular Consult feed, and it tells you a lot more having graphs and saving the maptrace than just looking at a Consult feed playing or trying to correlate that to where you are in the maps(on any of the Consult display programs I've seen).


I do think he raised the price a little high on it given that he hasn't met many of his lofty goals he set for it, but it's a nice tool if you've got a clue about tuning your stock ECU. If you're just getting someone else to tune your stock ECU, then a cheap daughterboard will probably be cheaper initially, but if you think flashing a Bikirom over USB is slow... wait until you've got your tuner popping out the EEPROMs and making changes in between runs... hahaha

Megasquirt and TEC3's suck compared to the Bikirom Megaboard besides them being MAP based IMO.

[NemeGuero]

Yah well most of us care about more than just WOT tuning.

anywhere from 3-10 pulls? haha what a range. Good job being certain there, buddy. And thats exactly my point, you had to learn to do it yourself. Most people don't have the time to deal with it. Especially if its a daily driven car.

I never said it was unreliable, I said it was a pain in the ass. I laugh when I look back at the forums and see that he is still updating shit. The forum is practically dead because people are fed up with his lagging.

Comparing biki to EPROMs is retarded since I said the better alternatives are the REAL standalones. You know, the ones with real time updates?

And who said anything about MegaSquirt? Welcome to the party thats been over for a year.