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kurissuS13

08-04-2002, 01:47 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Starlin @ Aug. 04 2002,2:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Car looks great. I like the black hood myself but the wing is just a little much for me. Obviously lots of people like them or there wouldn't be so many damn cars running arround with them on there.

I passed a Neon on I-5 yesterday at about 90mph that had one on it. I wanted to yell "damn wing didn't help ya there now did it"

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Am I missing something? I thought he did post it in the Chat section? Not flaming or nothing, just asking incase I been doing this wrong.

Starlin</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
one of the mods moved this thread into "Chat" when it was originally posted in "Polls".

anyway, nice car.  i don't see how it is a JDM Silvia conversion, tho.  u don't have the Silvia hood emblem or kouki grill.  that's still a nice car, tho.  i like the CF hood, too.  it's looks better unpainted on some colors.  not all, but some.  i ain't feelin the wing, tho.  definitely not feelin the wing.  
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

also, doesn't the USDM MCS14 have the exact same front end, minus the emblems?

KiDyNomiTe

08-04-2002, 02:22 PM

nothin really JDM about it, juss cuz it is in japan don't mean its automatically JDM, unless you actually paid 6K to import all the parts from Japan instead of juss getting it from a USDM S14. Bieng JDM but looking like a USDM car still, is pointless.

The CF is fine on sum cars liek someone said, it can look good on an S14 but the shade of red you picked is too bright, it might be juss the picture, but that shade red looks ugly with the CF hood there, only certain colors look good with CF hoods.

The wing is too much, there should be one JDM thing on your car, and thats the JDM spoiler, it would look tuns better. You could of goten that instead of the wing. You can polly get some good oney on ebay for that wing. Also you should get the 97-98 taillights.

Here's a tip go to the junkyards, I don't know if you would have found a 97-98 S14 but doesn't hurt to try, and can save you loads of money.

I would also like to suggest that you and your crew ditch the big ass stickers, and get something low profile for the 1/4 window.

Loren

08-04-2002, 02:38 PM

looks are subjective... if he likes it fine... who cares what you think? personally, i don't like the mesh, or red paint.. not painting the hood? who cares? and the wing, if it makes him feel special and gets him the attention he wants, great... keep in mind that big wings do have a purpose. do you think they put them on GT cars for looks? i think not, they do provide downforce, how much he actually needs the extra downforce is arguable.

camppain

08-04-2002, 04:56 PM

i really hope you didnt pay just 6g's for thefront end conversion cause thats an ass rae if you ask me. jdm or not.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>

the wing though not very high doesnt look good in its design. maybe if it looked different.

and Loren he did say "tell me what YOU think" that is what people are doing. the c/f hood looks nice imho i dont think you need to paint a c/f hood red with c/f is really nice. what kind is it? hopefully fiber images.

BadMoJo

08-04-2002, 05:30 PM

more like 98 "USDM" 240sx conversion, nothing is JDM about it. The headlights are even USDM...

NervGS

08-04-2002, 05:35 PM

The lights (housing, whatever it is) from a 96-98 Japanese model are different from the 97-98 ones sold in the US.  From what I know they are larger (better), if you do a side by side comparision, you can see the difference and the Japanese ones look way better.

-glenn

silviasichigo

08-04-2002, 06:42 PM

Here is what I think:
1. Wing it's gotta go eventually the fabrication flaw that wing has will effect the curvature of your trunk lid. IOW it will start warping your trunk lid.

2. Go badgeless the color you chose makes the the 240sx badge stick out way too much and makes it look out of place.

3. Strip the stickers all of them you are on the verge of (well I personnaly don't like the term) riceness.

4. You should understand if you paid 6K for that front end (- the bumper since it is off a "R33 Skyline") you were ripped off since that front end is in the states.

That is only what I think since you asked. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

Thank you can I have another!

SimpleS14

08-04-2002, 06:57 PM

I gotta have your side skirts, I like them alot  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

I just wish I knew where to get them  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

One-Eighty SX

08-04-2002, 06:59 PM

Here is what  i think too:

1. Wing must go it looks hideous

2. Not a fan of CF hoods i would rather have a Vented hood to cool the turbo down which is more functional

3. Needs to be lowered to the rim or a upsize in the tire cuz u still have some lil bit of a gap..

4. U got ripped off cuz the real Silvia s14 head lights are all glass some one correct me if i am wrong

last but not least to bright of a red color and also dont like the rims

Even though i jus ripped ur car apart dont take it serious its still a nice car u jus need to get rid of that wing u have and get a kouki s14 wing or a wangan drift wing ... which is much more sublte and easy on the eyes for us non-rice reppin ppl

SimpleS14

08-04-2002, 09:27 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (One-Eighty SX @ Aug. 03 2002,8:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">4. U got ripped off cuz the real Silvia s14 head lights are all glass some one correct me if i am wrong</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I believe both USDM and JDM are glass, just the JDM has bigger projectors.

AKADriver

08-05-2002, 12:59 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240silvia @ Aug. 04 2002,10:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Cabon Fiber hoods are all about racing. It only weighs 12 pounds. You are not supposed to paint them. If you wee upposed to paint them, they would come painted. Go look at the Silvias in Japan and tell me if the carbon fiber hoods are painted.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Most of the "carbon fiber" hoods on the market are a layer of carbon fiber weave over a plain fiberglass hood...  still a weight reduction but not much of one.  For show only.. and in that case it'd be stupid to paint it, since you paid all that extra over a plain fiberglass or steel hood just for that shiny weave.

Carbon fiber bodywork is common in higher levels of racing, and you'll notice most of those cars are painted.  The McLaren F1 has a carbon fiber body, and it's painted.

I'm not condescending, but if you leave it unpainted, then it is for show.  A lot of things you see on "Silvias in Japan" are also for show.  You don't see carbon fiber hoods on Silvias that often there, by the way; trying to take weight off the front end is more of a FWD car thing.  It was Spoon and the Honda crowd that made the bare CF look popular.

Kitahara

08-05-2002, 01:33 AM

If I spent 6g's on a conversion, I'd smack my head right into my keyboard <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> .  

OK, anyways, it looks pretty good.  

Although I got a little offended when I saw JDM this that etc, and then before I knew it... JDM R33 bumper when it's a ViS Omega bumper.

As for the carbon fiber hood, I like it.  IMO why paint it when they already have it clearcoated a bunch - unless you're that keen on having a matching hood that you might as well buy a stock hood and paint it.  To me it's all about the weight savings, gaining back a little towards that 50/50 weight ratio that the KA takes away.  But on the other hand if I ever decide to go with a carbon fiber hood, I'd probably try to make sure that the rest of the car is painted a color that works well with the cf.

Grant

08-05-2002, 02:41 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NervGS @ Aug. 04 2002,4:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The lights (housing, whatever it is) from a 96-98 Japanese model are different from the 97-98 ones sold in the US. From what I know they are larger (better), if you do a side by side comparision, you can see the difference and the Japanese ones look way better.

-glenn</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
u mean... like this???  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

http://home.earthlink.net/~stofer007/s14mc/mc6.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~stofer007/s14mc/mc7.jpg

SilviaDriver

08-05-2002, 03:05 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GT specR @ Aug. 04 2002,7:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I gotta have your side skirts, I like them alot <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

I just wish I knew where to get them <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
those are Veilside side skirts..rear and front bumper [on wreaked pics]..but yea..u can get cheap replicas on ebay..they all over the place..agressor..invader..or watever other names they use..but those are veilside..dunno if its REAL veilside..but nobody will never know

as for car:

its alright..except for body kit..the skyline front doesnt match with the veilside..if u look..the skyline is nice and smooth..where as the veilside gets all twist and turns..side skirts flow with rear add ons..but doenst flow iwth front bumper

also..ur info thingy for ur car is funny..for the performace part..coldair..then jumps to turbo juss wanted to point that out

HippoSleek

08-05-2002, 08:25 AM

[note to self: read end of post to see that Grant already found pics to demonstrate that they are not JDM projectors... it would save 15 minutes of searching  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>  ]

But yeah - other wise, there's not a damb thing that's JDM on that whole car.  It's all OTS or cheapo aftermarket.  For 6g's, I hope you also got the whole car painted that JDM red?  A bit too boy racer-ish for me.  If that were a teg or a Civic or an Eclipse, I'd see the CF hood, body kit, banners, and jumbo wing and think it was ricey... I don't see a difference b/c it is a 240.

Other random comments:
1)  You got robbed.
2)  While CF hoods may have racing origins, their application on the streets is increasingly common.  I'd wager there have been a hell of a lot more sold for pimpin the boulevards than racing.  
3)  Correct - CF hoods don't come painted.  Neither do other body panels, but most people like to color match.  Having one grey fender looks ghetto - how is a raw black CF hood different... unless you're just pimpin it?
4)  CF hoods w/o pins tend to open at "racing" speeds.  I'd suggest you get some of those ASAP (plus, they look pimpy! )
5)  I guess if they are unpainted in Japan then that settles it!
6)  Loren - I think a bit of research goes into the wings you see on GT cars.  I'm betting APC doesn't really do much downforce testing.  There's not much arguable about the need for downforce (depending on application), but creation is another story.  On a more positive note, you'll never need an ironing board!
7)  Nerv - I'm not sure they are better.  IIRC, the US model uses a higher output bulb and created more light.  Looks on that are subjective - I like US model better, b/c I think it lends an element to the middle (where it is otherwise empty).  Although I'm curious as to why they are different?
8)  what chicago said
9)  kithara - the difference b/n the KA and the SR is like under 10 lbs (SCC's swap article was about as accurate as you can get (about weight) by all accounts).  You're not taking anything back w/ the hood.

s14vaxlr8

08-05-2002, 02:47 PM

YEAH 6K <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'>

mine was only around 3500 with bomex front end ings lenses and carbon hood, 6k is way to much

SimpleS14

08-05-2002, 03:02 PM

6 g's? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

I'm sorry, but if you spent all that money on only your front end then you've been ripped off. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

I really hope all that money was going towards your whole car (paint job included), then that would make more sense.

BTW, good job at the show <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

KiDyNomiTe

08-05-2002, 03:06 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Grant @ Aug. 05 2002,03:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://home.earthlink.net/~stofer007/s14mc/mc6.jpg</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I can actually see the black and blue theme in this pic  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

SprungScorp

08-05-2002, 03:32 PM

<!--QuoteBegin--KiDyNomiTe+Aug. 05 2002,2<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KiDyNomiTe @ Aug. 05 2002,2<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>6)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://home.earthlink.net/~stofer007/s14mc/mc6.jpg</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That is a clean ass ride. Nice. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

MasterOFDrift

08-05-2002, 03:54 PM

What everybody else said and this <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

[edit] ohh yeah I forgot to add in this  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>  for your stickers on your rear windsheild. Hate to say this but your car club's sticker is terrible  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cry:'>

Yoshi

08-05-2002, 07:55 PM

WTF?
what's with the list of "sponsors"?  You're telling me that Veilside is happy sitting right next to VIS crap?  Is this just a listing of the companies that manufacture the products on the car, or actual sponsorship... I find it REALLY hard to believe this guy is sponsored by all those companies together... half of them are rivals and wouldn't want to sponsor a car that has already been sponsored by a rival company.  

I'm confused.

NervGS

08-05-2002, 08:51 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Grant @ Aug. 05 2002,03:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NervGS @ Aug. 04 2002,4:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The lights (housing, whatever it is) from a 96-98 Japanese model are different from the 97-98 ones sold in the US. From what I know they are larger (better), if you do a side by side comparision, you can see the difference and the Japanese ones look way better.

-glenn</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
u mean... like this??? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

http://home.earthlink.net/~stofer007/s14mc/mc6.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~stofer007/s14mc/mc7.jpg</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Dude...  Those are the first pictures i've seen of your car CLOSE UP.  Nice work on the lip!  Looks brand new!  Hahahahahaha...

Did you do anything to the lighting position of the headlights?  Blinding people on the other side of the road sucks.  Hahahahahahha...

-glenn

KiDyNomiTe

08-05-2002, 09:46 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ Aug. 05 2002,8:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">WTF?
what's with the list of "sponsors"? You're telling me that Veilside is happy sitting right next to VIS crap? Is this just a listing of the companies that manufacture the products on the car, or actual sponsorship... I find it REALLY hard to believe this guy is sponsored by all those companies together... half of them are rivals and wouldn't want to sponsor a car that has already been sponsored by a rival company.

I'm confused.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I am guessing it is just a list of stuff he has, or stickers he has accumulated over the years.

I should go steal em cut em in half and place em upside down on my moms minivan <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

240silvia

08-06-2002, 09:18 AM

Just so all of you know. The whole conversion was from Nissan in JAPAN!!! None of the parts came from the US. If you could see the car up close. All of the parts have NISSAN written on them. And yes, even on the projectors. If any one can help, I've been trying to find the Silvia spoiler and I can't find one anywhere. Let me know if you know where I can get one. Also, the open areas in the front bumper are for the Skyline Bumper fog lights. Does anyone know where I can get those at? If so please let me know.  And No i didn't spend 6 g's on the front ene alone.  That was with the body work also.  The was a "conversion"  The whole front end had to be changed.  Core support and everything else.  And YES, since I DID get everything from Nissan, stuff comes by a little more expensive then if I was getting it from somewhere here.

uuninja

08-06-2002, 09:31 AM

Wow my USDM Projectors have Nissan writen on them. How dose that make them JDM? Your Projectors are not the Japanese version, sorry they just aren't. Look at mine. Yours are exacyly the same as mine....
http://team-fu.com/chris/feb10meet/images/DSCF0184.jpg

The fenders are the same US and Japan. Whoopde friggen do.

As for the spoiler, have you tried
www.jspec.com (http://www.jspec.com)?

uiuc240

08-06-2002, 09:45 AM

look at the space from the edge of the light housing to the edge of the projector. his are CLEARLY different than yours. the JDM ones have the projectors spaced further to the edge of the car.

owned.   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>

Eric

Kreator

08-06-2002, 09:57 AM

6 grand <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>
For that money i'd be running low 13's on a sleeper 240sx....
My personal opinion, you should've sold your car, add 6 grand to the money u got and buy a 97 240sx. You'll prolly would still have enough for a body kit. And even if not, you'd still have an s14a 240sx, not a WONNABE <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

edit: nm me. I just read that you got in a crash.... still though..... $6000? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> And ummm yeah... "carbon fiber hood is all about racing" ummmmm what's that all about if you have a bone stock car???  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

uuninja

08-06-2002, 10:05 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uiuc240 @ Aug. 05 2002,11:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">look at the space from the edge of the light housing to the edge of the projector. his are CLEARLY different than yours. the JDM ones have the projectors spaced further to the edge of the car.

owned. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>

Eric</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Owned? NumbNuts, look at the pics....... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

The ones Grant posted of the JDM projectors.

http://home.earthlink.net/~stofer007/s14mc/mc7.jpg

The ones that 240silvia posted of his car.

http://members.tripod.com/eastcoastillusions/0fd037b0.jpg

BISSEN's car (with confirmed USDM Projectors)

http://www.nv2.cc.va.us/home/joosborn1/images/frontview.jpg

Finally mine....

http://team-fu.com/chris/feb10meet/images/DSCF0184.jpg

Now which of these four are not like the other?

Grants..... bucause he has the neat-o Jdm projectors.

BEISSEN's, Jerky's and mine ALL have USDM projectors.....denoted by the fact that the projectors are mounted further from the outer edge of the housing. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

Edited part: Added the pic BEISSEN's car cause it was head on.

Kreator

08-06-2002, 10:08 AM

http://members.tripod.com/eastcoastillusions/0b6a6110.gif

APC = CRAP....  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

Kitahara

08-06-2002, 10:09 AM

If you actually replaced the core support for the "conversion," yes quote & quote conversion, YOU just wasted $273.99+tax and body work (drilling out the welds and rewelding)!  I'm also wondering how much money you spent on the everything else part you mentioned.  Shady.  Are you trying to convince us that you spent more money on this conversion than you really did and you got these magically JDM parts?  Or did get ripped off on parts, both necessary and unnecesary (core support), and now you're trying to justify it?

BTW, you can get the Kouki Silvia K's spoiler at jspec.com
As for the foglights, you can ask them about that as well.  Otherwise fabricate a set yourself; shouldn't be too challenging, after all you did an amazingly difficult conversion  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> .

240silvia

08-06-2002, 10:28 AM

As far as grant goes, the core support is the same, you can't ,move the way the lights sit. So what did you mean by mine sit farther from the edge?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> ALL OF MY STUFF CAME FROM NISSAN!!!! YES, all of it IS JDM. As for the conversion, the whole conversion was around $3,500, give or take a few hundred. Most of the reason why it cost so much money, was because the whole car was painted, and my car just sat at that the body shop for a little over 2 months. So, for everyone that is giving me crap about it not being "JDM," don't say stuff if you haven't seen my car in person. Also, I know that my car doesn't have a lot of engine yet, but, the hood was just the 1st step. I wanted to get the appearance down first. Now that I have that the way that i want it, I'm gonna start doing engine stuff.  I just ordered an AEM intake, an it has a 14.4 HP gain. What does anyone think about what I should do next?  The cheapest HP.

Matt240SE

08-06-2002, 10:37 AM

Im not trying to be mean but you need to realize that it doesnt mean shit if your headlighst say Nissan, ALL healighst that are off of Nissan production vehicles most likely say that.
My 97 headlights say it they also say HB3 on the glass to does that make them any more JDM, no of course not.

Now if you will look closely at Grant's headlights you can see he has accent lines in the chrome around the projectors, that is one way to tell if you have JDM headlights or not. Also his projectors are positioned to the outside of the housing where as yours , well are not they are in the stock placement for the USDM. Sorry to bust your bubble but you clearly bouyght them from Nissan here in AMerica and they SAID they were from the Japanese factory. You were had if youy believe it.

CoasTek240

08-06-2002, 10:38 AM

yeah, i'd have to agree with everyone else.. that's not jdm at all.. infact is VIS racing... and u had to include the price of paint and fixing and aligning bodyu panels.. cuz 6 g's is way too much.. that's rediculous.. however.. it does look nice if u get rid of the skyscraper, the decals the mesh grill(black would be cool) and lower the car with some bigger rims. i say concentrate  on getting forced induction under the hood now.. with a car that flashy ur gonna feel like shit when a little civic or someother racer burns u on the strip. trust me i know! luckily i'm away from that lifestyle now. i've learned my lesson.

uiuc240

08-06-2002, 10:42 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uuninja @ Aug. 06 2002,11:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Owned? NumbNuts, look at the pics....... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Now which of these four are not like the other?

Grants..... bucause he has the neat-o Jdm projectors.

BEISSEN's, Jerky's and mine ALL have USDM projectors.....denoted by the fact that the projectors are mounted further from the outer edge of the housing. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

Edited part: Added the pic BEISSEN's car cause it was head on.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Ooops.  sorry.  i didn't read the whole post.  i thought you were trying to say that grant's and yours were the same.  sorry bro.

Eric (<===owned by uuninja)   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

uuninja

08-06-2002, 10:43 AM

He is talking about the head light assemble it's self. The JDM lights the projector is mounted at the outer edge of the headlight. In the USDM version the projector is more mounted towards the center of the light assmebly.

Trust me, I have been to japan more than once, I was at the TAS this year. Seen many a JDM post mc s14 up close and freindly like. Have plenty of pictures from the TAS of said JDM silvias. I own a post mc USDM 240sx. I think I can tell the difference in the head lights. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> or at least I hope I can.

Eric...no worries man happens to the best of us <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

Edit: On another note IIRC all s14's were produced in Japan...so the head lights are actually from the Japanese factory. LOL. YAY! we all have JDM 240's!

AceInHole

08-06-2002, 10:46 AM

Just let the little ****er think he's got a Silvia.  It's not our fault he has USDM Nissan equipment (Gee, were the USDM 240sx's made by someone other than Nissan??  Did Datsun make a comeback??) and wants to be a JDM ricer.

There are people who like brand names,
There are people who like the way things look,
There are people who like functionality (god forbid it's one of US)
And there are people who like brand names from foreign countries despite lack of actually being from that foreign country, and continue pleading they spent more money on cheaper parts in an attempt to look "cool".

KiDyNomiTe

08-06-2002, 11:19 AM

This wouldn't bother me as much, but on your site you listed everything as JDM, my question is why would you want JDM stuff, it don't make you any faster. The JDM lights are the only thing that would be different, someone said that you could get that bumper in the US, but the rest of the stuff all could be found in the US. Just because its JDM doesn't mean its any more special that the USDM, unless there is a noticeable difference (i.e. engines, various headlights and taillights, etc..) I am not that big a fan of bieng JDM, only thing that interests me are the engines, but I am more of a performance guy.

I would suggest if you are gonna be anymore JDM get an SR, unless you are gonna turbo that KA.

All in all you got ripped off, wether it be by Nissan or by someone faking bieng Nissan. Next time do some research on some of this stuff before just calling Nissan and saying: "I wanna be JDM, for any price!"

camppain

08-06-2002, 11:20 AM

hey if my car was assembled in mexico does that make it mdm? alot of parts are made their now! imma brag about having mdm! wooooo hoooooooooooo anyone want to join?

hey my windows say nissan so they are jdm right? my emblem says nissan on it thats jdm right? my owners manual and fsm have nissan on them too is that jdm?

i hate when people make such a big fucking deal over jdm! thats one reason that makes me hate it even though i would (actually) get the (actual)jdm) parts. not no rip offs from nssan north america.

you got jipped for the body parts bub. i have a s13 and i know that. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

*edit* ohh and i worked at nissan till tuesday so there is no way you got any "jdm parts" from nissan for your usdm 240sx mcs14 why didnt you just go with a 97 silvia conversion? those look alottt better imho  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>

Anubis

08-06-2002, 11:51 AM

I can see this guy is new, and hes coming on Zilvia trying to fool us all with his parts. bad idea...Zilvia members are world famous for their smart ass skills, and for the headlights thing, yours are USDM, not JDM, they are completly diff. as for the bumper, there is no way that is from a skyline, its clearly a vis omega front.

JDM S13

08-06-2002, 03:01 PM

So, my question is; Which headlights are better?  USDM or JDM?  Not which looks better but which performs better?!  And are they both made of glass?

thanks!

uuninja

08-06-2002, 03:11 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JDM S13 @ Aug. 05 2002,5:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So, my question is; Which headlights are better? USDM or JDM? Not which looks better but which performs better?! And are they both made of glass?

thanks!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
From what I know the USDM headlight came with a higher out bulb...thought I have not double checked. That the only real variable in lighting output as far as I know between the two.

Also I have heard that the JDM lights are aimed at the wrong side of the road. Though my USDM lights have screws that allow the projector to be aimed up and down and in either direction. I would assume that the JDM bulbs have the same, and could simply be reaimed.

For what it's worth I think that the JDM ones look nicer....grass is always greener right?  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> Would I spend a dime switching? no.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Kreator

08-06-2002, 03:18 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240silvia @ Aug. 06 2002,11:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I just ordered an AEM intake, an it has a 14.4 HP gain.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Sigh...  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'> ... will the ricers ever learn?....

240silvia

08-06-2002, 03:41 PM

Ok listen smart ass (Kreator,) That HP gain was from the AEM website, in case you don't know, that Dyno all of their intakes. So what's ricey about that? Ok with the headlights, I called Nissan and they told me that the reason why I shouldn't get the JDM Headlights was because the headlight pattern here and the pattern in Japan are different. The pattern in Japan is illegal to have here. Yes, both of them are glass though.

Frappe

08-06-2002, 04:27 PM

hm...I don't have much that hasn't been said already, I agree for the most part about the wing...car'd look tons better without it.

But what's up with the two antenna masts? dual radios? are you sporting a CB?  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

-Frappe

Krunko

08-06-2002, 05:50 PM

Don't rely on manufacturer HP dynos.  Dyno's vary...  You can dyno your car 3 times in a row under the same condition and get a 10hp difference between all of them.  So lets say they did that,a nd then did it 3 times with it on..they probably took the lowest HP rating and the highest with it on and figured out the difference that way.

You'd be lucky to get 15hp out of an intake and cat-back exhuast put together.  (with no other mods)

Yeah, I'm not trying to come down on  you, I used to believe manufacturer dyno's too, until I started seeing people post their dyno's who did various mods.

You'll probably get around 5-10hp.

Grant

08-06-2002, 06:00 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240silvia @ Aug. 06 2002,2:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok listen smart ass (Kreator,) That HP gain was from the AEM website, in case you don't know, that Dyno all of their intakes. So what's ricey about that? Ok with the headlights, I called Nissan and they told me that the reason why I couldn't ge the JDM Headlights was because they headlght pattern here and the pattern in Japan are different. The pattern in Japan is illegal to have here. Yes, both of them are glass though.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
soo.....................................

what are my lights then Glenn?? Taiwanese Domestic Market??

a certain thing can be made in japan, but desginated for the US market.

making it simple. the 240sx was 100% made in Japan, but only for the US market. you'll never see a 240sx in japan, all you will see is a Nissan Silvia.

and as for europe, their cars are called 200sx, and they have their Euro spec characted traits (side markers on fenders instead of bumper). rear fog lights. larger license plate holders. But nonetheless the car was made in Japan.

Sp as for your lights, they ARE made in japan, but designated for the US Domestic Market.

I could care less about oncoming traffic, but my the beam pattern is not far off, because projectors use a "Z pattern" according to Mike Mamos (clearcorners.com).

As far as which is better? the Euro Spec 200sx headlights are. they are just like mine, with the beam pattern aligned for Left Hand Drive cars.

240 silvia If you do want a Silvia wing, try jspec.com. They actually sell a copy of the wing (made by the same people that fabricate the saleen body kits). The quality is very very good.

As for my car, I uhh forgot to paint it? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> anyways the front right fender, hood, and trunklid + spoiler came from a wrecked silvia. the front left fender came off a 240sx, and they look exactly the same, hell probably the same part numbers. the bumper on my car is a USDM bumper with an optional front lip (thanks Glenn). I also have an AEM intake, and all I can say is the numbers the intake manufactures claim don't seem to be true (my intake is for sale BTW, probably getting a place racing cold air intake <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>). no my headlights are not DOT legal, therefore technically not legal here.

all in all does that make my car JDM? no... I think I'd make it as far as Pacific Ocean Domestic Market <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> j/k... I mean just think about it. a Toyota Cavalier (chevy's deal with toyota to sell the Chevy Cavalier to japan). its a cavalier rebaged with toyota emblems. It is still made in America, but its... JDM.....

when you are talking JDM or USDM etc.... it's not where it was made, its which country's market the product is intended for.

KiDyNomiTe

08-06-2002, 06:24 PM

Anyway ditch the wing, and get a darker red color, lower the car (or get bigger rims), and if you are going to attempt any more JDM stuff, get an SR, it's kinda hard to be fooled and given something thats not an SR.

Get that Spoiler as soon as possible, talk to JSpec.

SR20Fastback

08-06-2002, 07:47 PM

Im glad someone finally pointed out the intake thing. I dont have much to say, everyones covered everything. Personally I think the cf hood doesnt really match the red. Some colors unpainted cf goes better with, and some are worse. I also suggest the silvia replica wing from jspec, if you're all about appearance, then this will probably be your next buy. Until later, good luck fixing the car (and please tell whoever did your site to take down all the "JDM's")

SimpleS14

08-06-2002, 08:51 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (camppain @ Aug. 05 2002,1:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i worked at nissan till tuesday so there is no way you got any "jdm parts" from nissan for your usdm 240sx mcs14</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
that's weird <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'> ...one of my dealership said they can order some of the stuff from the Nismo International Catalog.......but then again I must have been lied to. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cry:'>

oh yea how can I get Euro Spec 97-98 200SX headlights?

oh yea as for 240silvia I still like the car.....just try not to use "JDM" so much.  Course I'll have a better one.....soon....real soon <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>.....j/p. Anyway, have you thought about getting some emblems (hood and rear) for your car?

Anubis

08-06-2002, 09:19 PM

that is the VIS front right?
cuz i need one like that, and there is another one floating around that does not have the attatched and molded grill.

Kitahara

08-07-2002, 12:36 AM

I've been looking for the VIS Omega bumper with out the upper grill (I'd rather add a seperate kouki grill) and with out those goofy looking vents on each side of the license plate mount.  I saw it before, but I can't find it ANYWHERE for some reason.  If I could find that, I'd be soo freakn happy!  Otherwise I'm gonna save up longer for a Ings type r front bumper...

Kitahara

08-07-2002, 12:38 AM

Forgot to mention, sorry for double posting... this is the longest flame I've seen in a while.. my goodness!

SilviaDriver

08-07-2002, 01:27 AM

Grant, i must say..ur car is pimpin..yes im a post whore!!..only to ease all of the pain the ''JDM'' guy had from everybody..haha

240silvia

08-07-2002, 08:35 AM

Grant, I do have to say, I REALLY like your car.  As far as Nissan goes, they DID tell me that they could get the headlights, but they ARE illegal.  And I'm not gonna get a ticket b/c of my headlights.  For my car, The Silvia spoiler will be next.  The one that is on there now was installed in my ricer days.  My car before the wreck, I don't know what the crap I was thinking.  But i think that when I get the new spoiler, I'll be fine.  Also, does anyone know where I can get the skyline fog lights?

nrcooled

08-07-2002, 09:20 AM

I think the car is a little flashy but that is just mho.  Also, I suggest the SR option....you will not be sorry <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>   Best 2k I could have ever spent on my car (I also love the sleeper look).  Holla at ya and hope to see you on the road someday....murdah

Kreator

08-07-2002, 08:10 PM

Umm am i missing something, or are u telling us now that you paid 6 grand for JDM conversion KNOWING that it actually was USDM? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'>

As for the intake thing... Well here is the said truth. If you go and look up the dyno charts, you'll see that all the stuff that makes it easier to breath, robs you of your low end. So while you gain your 2-3 hp at the top with intake (not more than that. maybe 5hp with CAE), you lose those 2-3 hp at the bottom/low end. Proof: I raced my friend's 240sx when i was bone stock and he had i/h/e. I was seeing him in my rear view mirror till 3rd gear.

And ummmm. You know the tornado thingy... it's quoted at 7hp increase at www.tornadoair.com.... and eh... what a coincedence, i'm selling one for $45... say, how about i make you an extra special deal and sell it for a mucho low price of $55? PM me if interrested... Oh, and did i forget to mention it's JDM <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> ... NOT!...
lol <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>

silvia14

08-08-2002, 06:42 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kitahara @ Aug. 06 2002,11:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I've been looking for the VIS Omega bumper with out the upper grill (I'd rather add a seperate kouki grill) and with out those goofy looking vents on each side of the license plate mount. I saw it before, but I can't find it ANYWHERE for some reason. If I could find that, I'd be soo freakn happy! Otherwise I'm gonna save up longer for a Ings type r front bumper...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
They are always available on ebay...

try this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot....9827944 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849827944)