View Full Version : Posibilities with 10k
imperial562
03-24-2007, 02:58 PM
The reason why i joined this place was because.. not long ago a guy offered to buy my car for.. 11k. Whats my car? a 1993 Mazda rx-7 Touring model. with mild performance mods and LOTS of reliability mods. but lately my car has been pissin me off and giving me problems after problems. i'm getting 7-11mpg and uhh yea, i just cant afford it right now. all of my friends have Nissan 240s. So i was woundering.. what can i do with 11k? i wanted to buy a 240 coup and throw all the rest of the cash into the car, but i don't know the possibilities... should i sell my car? or keep it and build it.
OptionZero
03-24-2007, 03:46 PM
Register the FD "off-road only". Cancel your insurance which must be bank.
Use the savings to buy some shit beater car thats reliable, i'm sure someone you know or someone u find locally will have something worthwhile.
Drive to school/work/girls with the beater.
A beater that's maintained will get better mileage than the 240 and FD combined, yielding even more savings.
The FD is several steps ahead of where any 240 will be, possibly even with 11k depending on how much work you can do urself.
Use the FD at the track only. Cross your fingers you don't get pulled over on the way to the track.
SNC240SX
03-24-2007, 03:55 PM
^i second the above comment. FD can be a gangster track car.
Slidin240Wayz
03-24-2007, 04:02 PM
sell the car and buy a house. MO MONEY!
Carlos
ronmcdon
03-24-2007, 04:08 PM
what reliability probs are you speaking of? you may just need to get a rebuild. fd motors arn't known to be reliable. the fd does have a lot nicer chassis than the s13/s14.
i agree with Optionzero there. its almost always beneficial to have a beater on the side thats reliable and gets good mileage, unless there really is no way at all you can find parking.
to answer your question about 11k, i really dont think you could get a lot per say for a 240. its prob cheaper to buy something already with a swap. you could most likely get an s14 w/ an sr for around 8k or. my 96 240 w/ a s14 swap and a bunch of reliability parts cost around 11k, and it still needs a good deal of suspension, brake, and chassis parts to be a well rounded performace car. i have no doubts that even my close to stock crx si would get better lap times on a track or autoX.
If i were you, id just put that 8k of that 11k towards a new car. maybe spend the remainder $2-3k on a used frugal, but fun to drive 88-91 civic si.
sell the car and buy a house. MO MONEY!
Carlos
that a sensible alternative but sadly, 11k isn't going to get you very far in terms of a house dp out here in CA. i know i have no hope either unless i move somewhere else. :(
imperial562
03-24-2007, 08:43 PM
:newbie: As of the moment i'm having clutch problems. and i hate working on the tranny.. i'f my tranny ever blows on me i'd want to get a 6spd tran. but then thats 12k for the 6spd hks tranny. This selling move is more like a financial move. my dad would gladly pay for everything but i gatta grow up some day... as for the 240 coupe.. i dont mind sticking with a KADETT motor. i hate swaps. So you guys dont think i'd get a bad ass/ more reliable 240sx for around 11k? hmm wow i guess they're more expensive than i thought. Thanks for the feedback guys. i apprciate it alot.:newbie:
Jonnie Fraz
03-24-2007, 08:57 PM
Ok 11k for an FD is like low isnt it. In my opinion FD's are gangster, not that I don't love my S13, but Damn. I saw a clean FD here in town they wanted 19k for it and it went in like two days.
You could set yourself up with a sick S13 for ten grand, especially if you wanted to stay with the stock motor.
jobestudios
03-24-2007, 08:58 PM
:newbie: As of the moment i'm having clutch problems. and i hate working on the tranny.. i'f my tranny ever blows on me i'd want to get a 6spd tran. but then thats 12k for the 6spd hks tranny. This selling move is more like a financial move. my dad would gladly pay for everything but i gatta grow up some day... as for the 240 coupe.. i dont mind sticking with a KADETT motor. i hate swaps. So you guys dont think i'd get a bad ass/ more reliable 240sx for around 11k? hmm wow i guess they're more expensive than i thought. Thanks for the feedback guys. i apprciate it alot.:newbie:
Do an LS1 swap, 300-400 whp (intake, headers, exhaust which you do anyways for the swap), 30 mpg, stock=reliable (someone's gonna bring to the board "it's a GM, its unreliable", but look at a nissan turbo motor with that power on that budget), oh and something called... torque.
ronmcdon
03-24-2007, 09:19 PM
:newbie: As of the moment i'm having clutch problems. and i hate working on the tranny.. i'f my tranny ever blows on me i'd want to get a 6spd tran. but then thats 12k for the 6spd hks tranny. This selling move is more like a financial move. my dad would gladly pay for everything but i gatta grow up some day... as for the 240 coupe.. i dont mind sticking with a KADETT motor. i hate swaps. So you guys dont think i'd get a bad ass/ more reliable 240sx for around 11k? hmm wow i guess they're more expensive than i thought. Thanks for the feedback guys. i apprciate it alot.:newbie:
i'm not sure how familiar you are with getting older projects, but almost all of them are going to be more of a headache in terms of maintenance. what guarantee do you have that the next 240 or whatever project car you pick isn't also going to have clutch and other pita probs?
when i first got my 96 240sx, i got it as a shell w/ 119k mi and purchased a s14 clip w/ 70k mi from a reputable dealer. i had it worked on by a good nissan master mechanic (no i don't work on cars too much, i suck at that). i also got a lot of new parts to insure reliability, short of a rebuild. stuff still breaks down or is in the process of doing so.
within the 1 yr period, and 10k mi i've driven the car, I've had the clutch mc die, the power steering having to be rebuilt, the passenger power window motor die, the tension rods go bad, the differential go bad, the subframe bushings needing to be replaced, etc. also the tranny in my s14 swap grinds bad, and my turbo doesn't make consistent boost (probably also on its way out). I also want to replace my horribly undrivable act 6-puck clutch as well.
in contrast, the 89 crx i've been owning has been fairly reliable but still not entirely without issues. i've owned around 6-7 used cars, they all have their share of headaches that id rather not elaborate. if you're going to get a used car, AND mess with it, then youd be unrealistic not to expect problems.
I'm not saying you shouldn't get rid of your FD for a 240, but i think you should reconsider your reasoning. you'll only be further aggravating yourself trading one problem for another. if the its the aggravations of car probs that bug you, then id suggest you do yourself a favor and just get a new car. you'll prob end up paying very modest car payments every month w/ a $10k dp on an sti, 335, or something.
mariosdog
03-24-2007, 09:38 PM
Do an LS1 swap, 300-400 whp (intake, headers, exhaust which you do anyways for the swap), 30 mpg, stock=reliable (someone's gonna bring to the board "it's a GM, its unreliable", but look at a nissan turbo motor with that power on that budget), oh and something called... torque.
He said he doesn't like swaps. And however good or reliable an engine may be compared to the 13B, its an engine that doesn't belong in the RX, so its still going to have problems.
wangan_cruiser
03-24-2007, 09:40 PM
sell the car and buy a house. MO MONEY!
Carlos
i agree....lol buy a house then invest it then buy another car:bigok:
!Zar!
03-24-2007, 09:43 PM
Blah blah blah. The fd's motor is as reliable as you make it. It's just that when people who don't know how to tune get ahold of it, all hell breaks loose. Just the same way when you boost a sr or a ka without propper tuning.
As for what I would do with 10k.
I'd get one killer ass bj.
Dousan_PG
03-24-2007, 10:54 PM
10k?
get a lot of pussy.
thats what i would do.
derek_s13
03-24-2007, 10:57 PM
as for the 240 coupe.. i dont mind sticking with a KADETT motor. i hate swaps.
lol. so how many turbo's on that ka?
Frosty_spl
03-24-2007, 11:12 PM
Id do 2 chicks at one time.
or invest it all.
kognition
03-24-2007, 11:13 PM
You get into a 240 project, you will get 20K into before you even realize what the hell happened. Be afraid...... very afraid. Yea drop that cash into a foreclosure this summer!
LB.Motoring
03-24-2007, 11:14 PM
10k?
Id buy a old BMW.
mRclARK1
03-24-2007, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by: OptionZero
Use the savings to buy some shit beater car thats reliable, i'm sure someone you know or someone u find locally will have something worthwhile.
What he's trying to say is, you can buy a 240 and keep your FD. :keke:
sr20det4mys13
03-24-2007, 11:29 PM
Blah blah blah. The fd's motor is as reliable as you make it. It's just that when people who don't know how to tune get ahold of it, all hell breaks loose. Just the same way when you boost a sr or a ka without propper tuning.
As for what I would do with 10k.
I'd get one killer ass bj.
totally agree, especially with a kadet.. and especially on a dett.. its all about the tunning, thats all they talk about in ka forums, but its a hard decision, because im sure you want to get to the point where your buying parts and installing them every week, and with the fd its hard to do that because of the prices, i know what u mean, but just a heads up when you buy an old car like an s13 your gunna have to do a lot of maintanence to do, and on top of that because its a ka thats like 150,xxx and up... its up to you.. latah
sr20det4mys13
03-24-2007, 11:31 PM
Blah blah blah. The fd's motor is as reliable as you make it. It's just that when people who don't know how to tune get ahold of it, all hell breaks loose. Just the same way when you boost a sr or a ka without propper tuning.
As for what I would do with 10k.
I'd get one killer ass bj.
and if i had 10k, i would go to vegas and put it all on black
wootwoot
03-25-2007, 12:20 AM
spend 5k on the RX to fix it and another 5k on a beater. If I lived there I'd come do the dang clutch for you. RX trans are easy as pie man. Way easier then a Nissan is honestly.... Think about what would happen if you got a 240sx. No lsd (for the most part and not one that matters if it does), iddy biddy little brakes, not nice seats, decent chassis thats easy to hang out, McPherson Strut compared to double wishbone, soft ass squishy suspension, usually 4 lug.
Really, honestly. You would have to be fucking stupid to do this. You would need to put soo much into the 240 to make up to par of any rx7. I would take a n/a 2nd gen over a sr powered s13 even for the fun/composed factor.
Gilboyto
03-25-2007, 12:26 AM
LS1 FD ftw, period. :D My friends just about to finish his. Only word that can come out of my mouth is badass. That, and it costs less than 10K
wootwoot
03-25-2007, 10:31 AM
So why is it worth spending a shitload of money on an LS1 swap if his motor is still good? Why are people so v8 hungry now days
SimpleSexy180
03-25-2007, 12:37 PM
lol because zilvia said so.
:jerkit:
Tenchuu
03-25-2007, 12:50 PM
Also the KADETT is a 1.9l opel 4 cyl engine. the KA24E/DE is the stock 240 engine that can be turbocharged into a KA24ET/DET.
just for referance. you don't want the KADETT, it is carbureted and has 81 HP.
C. Senor
03-25-2007, 12:51 PM
hahaha dont forget he has to sell his car to get the 10k, unless i misunderstood that, but if you're that worried about gas get a vespa or a street bike, any car that you go vroom vrooming in will waste gas, and if anything major is done to it 91 goes even faster....haha i use 87 on my 243k mile kae...lol..i get like 25 mpg, lol
coreansurfer
03-25-2007, 05:40 PM
i would never sell an fd for a 240
Gilboyto
03-25-2007, 05:57 PM
I personally say get rid of the rotary simply because I used to own an FC. I know exactly how they are, and what needs to be done. For the money, its worth it just to stick another engine in. LS1 is all reliable power, esp with the low miles they come with IMO. The rotary needs TONS of care, more than I was willing to spend, thats for sure.
EfiniGirl
03-25-2007, 06:16 PM
a fairly stock FD in decent condition with basic reliability mods should go for more than 10k, btw. don't short change yourself.
imperial562
03-25-2007, 06:24 PM
when i said I'm fine with KADETT. i ment sequential twin turbos... EEeek I guess its harder to work on KA motors than i thought. so i'd have to get a new ECU, and something like FC commander if i do a turbo swap? eep.. by bad ass 240sx for 10grand i ment. great looking exterior, 0-60 in 4.2 or less. and one set of coilvers. thats it. I can get a welded diff. oh wait.. and most of all.. reliable. I found out the problim on my FD was the throw out bearing and Clutch fork! now my flywheel could be screwd also. if u guys dont know how much FD parts cost, in your spare time shop around for parts for FDs.. thanks for the feedback again guys. oh and let me remind u guys that i'd have to sell my FD for the 10-11k. So the guys that told me to do a LS1 swap... sorry but that motor is about 5k alone.
sideview_180sx
03-25-2007, 06:30 PM
dood head over to aerodyne in garden grove and let them check your motor out. or kyle mohan/ henry schelly's shop mo' drift. get that FD running rite. and save it for track days and get a 4-door beater. just like option zero said.
wootwoot
03-25-2007, 09:55 PM
People act like rotaries are such shit and you have to do sooo much to them for them to work...How come mine that is redlined regularly making around 300hp is absolutely fine? and shit, so what if they blow up? It isnt the same price as a motor rebuild for anything else. If you just pinch a sideseal or something sweet, take the motor out, rebuild it for 20 bucks, put it back together and its good to go!
Try doing a rebuild near that simple in anything else. If I have to do a rebuild every 50k, the entire seal kit is a 700 bucks. So thats the same price to me as if someone took their car in for their 50k(or whatever mileage said car is required) service.
I will completely admit the FD is a pain in the ass. Those cars are not fucking normal sports cars. They are exotics. You wouldnt buy a Ferrari and not expect maintaining it to be cheap or parts either. If you cant afford expensive ass nice cars maybe you should think ahead about it a bit more?
I'd honestly rather have a Miata over a 240 again. They drive much better stock even. If anything, sell your car and spend 3grand on a Nissan Hardbody/Toyota r22 truck and the rest on a play car.
The one thing I hate about rotaries is their gas mileage and the fact they are mechanically inefficient as fuck
aznpoopy
03-25-2007, 10:41 PM
at least with a ferrari, you can take it to the dealer to get it fixed. :) with 7s, you either do it yourself or you need to be lucky enough to have a quality speciality rotary shop nearby.
as for redlining... that's good for a rx7. if you baby the engine, you run the risk of eventually carbon locking the motor.
owning it takes alot of specialized knowledge. that's why it gets its well-deserved reputation as an owner intensive car.
Tenchuu
03-25-2007, 10:41 PM
I haven't heard of anyone with sequential turbos on a KA, i could be wrong, feel free to correct me anyone.
LS can be had for around 3.5K around where i am if you don't mid it used. aslo you can toss a VQ (6 cyl from nissan 350Z, altima, or G35) in there as well as a cheaper option.
Jay Dee M
03-25-2007, 11:42 PM
You get into a 240 project, you will get 20K into before you even realize what the hell happened. Be afraid...... very afraid. Yea drop that cash into a foreclosure this summer!
:werd: A 240sx will put a big dent in your wallet.
kognition
03-26-2007, 10:24 AM
Hell, i would never sell an FD if i owned one period. Good bodies are getting hard to find.
i would never sell an fd for a 240
McRussellPants
03-26-2007, 12:26 PM
Selling FD for 240SX.
fucking break your fingers with a hammer.
Gilboyto
03-26-2007, 12:44 PM
sorry but that motor is about 5k alone.
Not even close buddy! Unless you want a 0 miles crate motor. Junkyards sell the complete dropout (engine, harness, pcm, and front accessories) for about 2400 dollars. Add tranny to that ($1200). Youre still far under 5K. I would know because I just bought mine for my S13. Its a motor from 99 with 60K on it, and it was only 2450.
240trooper
03-26-2007, 12:50 PM
with 10,000 dollers you can do alot, go KA-T , find a nice low mileige 240sx and spend 5 k on the kit,and the remanein 2/3k on exc.
!Zar!
03-26-2007, 01:15 PM
with 10,000 dollers you can do alot, go KA-T , find a nice low mileige 240sx and spend 5 k on the kit,and the remanein 2/3k on exc.
Yeah, because the first thing I would do once I found a car is spend it on a body kit.
This thread is growing quickly with vast amounts of fail.
If you have no idea what you want to do with 10k, put it in savings untill you can figure it out.
Getting rid of a fd for a 240. LOL
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