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Iceman
08-01-2002, 09:09 PM
ok well my friend has a 85 mr2 and he is selling it and he will have a total of around 4g's. he wants some thing that will have great handling and maybe a turbo. he was going to get a 91 mr2 but the guy is asking too much for a  monthly payment. so he was thinking of a 240 but he dosn't want to go the distance of swaping to get more speed. so if someone can help of thinking of a car thanks.

KiDyNomiTe
08-01-2002, 09:53 PM
Hmm a turbo with good handling under 4K, that is asking a lot, if you can't find any decent MR-2s you can try an FC, but I am not sure on how much they go for, keep in mind rotaries have to be taken care of. Umm there arent that many other tubo cars you can find for cheap, maybe and old Z but not to sure on handling. MKIII Supra would be turbo too, but it's like having a boat on boost. Eagle Talons are turbo and around 4K.

I would give up the turbo idea, and get an NA RWD car, liek the 240 and either turbo the KA or do a swap, you could also get an NA MR2 and maybe do a swap for th JDM 245 HP engine, but 4K leaves you with little room, unless you are going to be doing all the custom work, then a Swap would be easier to get for cheap, if you can find a decent car body.

AutoDestruct
08-01-2002, 10:18 PM
Get a old 200sx/gazelle with the 1.8 turbo in it dump the extra money into performance and a more aggressive look to it.  I seen this friggin fat wide body kit on one.  Nismo off the top of my head.  RWD/Turbo/Nissan

Problem solve &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
After you show your friend a pic of one he will never do it.
People are always going after "the Look" never power or durability. &nbsp;Give it a shot anyway.

Iceman
08-01-2002, 10:25 PM
it dosn't have to be turbo but he would like one. i think what he wants is something to have fun with in the twistes and have a good amount of speed.

Iceman
08-01-2002, 10:28 PM
ha ha one of my old friends had a 96 200sx, thing was too damn big we always laughed at him because it was purple lol. he tried to rice it out. had stickers like "powered by nissan".lol.

AutoDestruct
08-01-2002, 10:35 PM
96 try 86 &nbsp;and i'm not talkin front wheel drives It looks like a AE86 with US front end. &nbsp;Speaking of which get a corrola GT-s and peg one of those superchared 1st gen Mr-2 engines in it. &nbsp;Those things invented drifts.

200sx = s12 &nbsp; I think <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

KiDyNomiTe
08-01-2002, 10:45 PM
They don't look too bad, I wouldn't mind having one for project car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

Iceman
08-01-2002, 11:03 PM
lol i wonder what a s-1 was lol. oh what is a FC. sorry but i'm new well kind of. lol

AutoDestruct
08-01-2002, 11:11 PM
Yo Ice man what the hell are you on?
Just remember what goes up must come down. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>
I dont think it ever went past s12-15

Im trying to find one as a project car actually. &nbsp;Junkyard has a almost perfect one with no turbo and no rust &nbsp; but the bastard won't sell it, says he can't it's a "junk certificate" whatever that is. &nbsp;I think he just wants to part it out and be a greedy part dealer and skim me for all my money piece by piece. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

mistert
08-01-2002, 11:18 PM
his 2 best options are either in an FC (2nd gen) rx-7 or a 1st gen AWD DSM...he has several ways he oculd go

1. series 4 (86-88) TII rx-7, would have a littel left over for a couple extras
2. series 5 (89-91/92) TII rx-7, could get a reasonably nice one if he could find one, might go slightly over $4000 though
3. the 1g AWD DSM (GS-X, TSi AWD). preferably 90-92 because of 6-bolt mains, but 93-94 are cool too, just not quite as much power holding ability. depending on the condition he may spend as little as $2000 and as much as $4500

with the rx-7's he'd have to worry about finnicky rotaries, so thats only an option if he knows what he's getting into or plans to learn fast (hopefully not the hard way)

with the DSM's he'll also have reliability issues, but in the form of drivetrain problems. more expensive to fix in the long run, but initally cheaper to make faster

i say go with an FC, although both are excellent choices

Iceman
08-01-2002, 11:18 PM
ha ha ha i was just being dumb lol. but really what is "FC". i personally don't like 200sx. slow as hell. roomy though. lol

Iceman
08-01-2002, 11:20 PM
ok

mistert
08-01-2002, 11:41 PM
FC is chassis code for 2nd generation RX-7. FD=3rd gen, FB=later 1st gen

there's 2 FC's, series 4 and series 5

major differences are that series 5 has a twin scrolling turbo (spools much faster without really sacrificing any top end, and its a better turbo period), round taillights on the back, slightly different body mouldings (i think it might just be the front lip spolier and rear spoiler), and oh yeah paint colored body moldings. also the engine is a good bit different i guess, pretty much a completely different engine. it is basically an FD engine with different mounting points and a different turbo system in almost every way (uses same E-shaft and rotor housings as the 13brew, as well as having slightly higher compression). it has a good extra 25 hp to the wheels over the s4, and responds to upgrades much better.

in addition, a series 5 will be in much better condition, simply because its a newer car

its hard to find an 89+ TII though (TII=turbo in FC speak, all others are N/A), because people tend to hold onto them, and prices range from 3500-5500 depending on condition, 5500 would be mint condition with extras. if you look around on rx7forums.com you might find a few nice condition s5 TII FC's for around $4000, but they sell really really fast

they're really great cars, the rotary engines can be finnicky but if he knows what hes doing they're alot easier to work on than a piston engine. also, because they're more likely to need replacement engines, its much cheaper...you can get a JDM series 5 engine and transmission complete with turbo and ECU for like $1000-1200 for a really good condition low milage longblock

slap an intake an exhaust on one and it'll lay like 250 to the rear wheels easily if its in healthy condition

also, unless you buy it from an enthusiast and know its very well taken care of, make sure the car is checked out first by a good mechanic or someone who knows rotary engines