Painting a S14.5

[yaba94070]

I am painting my car but i do not know how much paint to use i am painting it metalic daytona eletric blue and i am buying it buy the gallon so i need to know how much i chould buy and use???

[chmercer]

1 gallon

[lilredstiffy]

i know it sounds pretty lame but go to an oreilys near you that sells paint and usually the counter guys can give you the low down on what they usually sell as far as amounts and some tips

[Chez]

gallon of base coat gallon of clear gallon of reducer. this assumes that your body is preped and ready for base coat.

[yaba94070]

i just finished sanding it down to the metal and i am pondoing all the spot that need it. So form there can i just apply the base???

[driftsilvias13]

let me guess..are you using the hawthorne rayflex paint?

[Phlip]

i know it sounds pretty lame but go to an oreilys near you that sells paint and usually the counter guys can give you the low down on what they usually sell as far as amounts and some tips
I'm calling bullshit on that one.
I would NOT trust a parts counter guy, period.
He has done the right thing by asking and he has gotten his answer: 1 gallon, so long as nothing more is fucked off.

[koukimonster139]

yaba - HELL NO do not apply base coat over bare metal or bondo


after you have all your filler spots nice and straight and have the entire car DA'd with 320 or so, you need to apply about 3 medium coats (depending on quality desired and if you have any sandscratches/pinholes) of either epoxy surfacer or self etching surfacer. after this, you need to either dry sand or wet sand the surfacer with 180 grit. After that, DA the whole car again with 320. then if you want you can apply a sealer if you have sanded through your surfacer in any spots. then apply your basecoat.

[eastcoastS14]

^^ hmm im curious about this too id like to learn to paint what do you mean when you say DA? sorry for the question but im really a noob to paint

[koukimonster139]

DA = to sand with a tool called a Dual Action sander. it rotates and ellipses siimultaneously to give an almost sandscratch-free surface.


woot

[chmercer]

yeah dont spray base over bondo it sucks. i tried it. you can skip primer if the car has already been painted at some point but if you do any bondo pay up for the primer.

[yaba94070]

let me guess..are you using the hawthorne rayflex paint?
is rayflex paint bad????
i haven;t got it yet but i want a high quality paint

[yaba94070]

holy shit thats a lot of work....
and ya theres no way i am going to orielys
lol
but i guess im gonna sand it all off then take it 2 a shop.
I just really need to know how much paint and were to get the good paint. I am trying to get the stock 350 blue color
its daytona blue

[95Kouki]

do not use a DA sander on any primer surfaces...unless you want wavy ass panels....this is what you should do...hit the car up with 220 and then shoot the car with a high quality poly primer...follow the mixing directions on the can(poly-primer uses mekp as a hardener)...it is a high solid primer so you need to a 1.7 - 1.8 nozzle on your hvlp gun...let it cure up...it does not air dry like solvent based primer...it is very similar to fiberglass resin...so once it cures hit it with 220 on a long block...workin it in 3 directions at all times
make sure u get rid of all you low and high spots...make adjustments to panels as necessary...then lightly mist the car with "guide coat".... then wet sand the car 400 wet and sand down until the guide coat is gone...this is to ensure that all the larger sanding scratches will not show up in the base coat....hit the whole car with grease and wax remover...let it fully evap...then tack cloth the car before spraying your base....let flash...tack cloth the car between coats after they flash...this ensures that everything will be uniform...trust me...

[95Kouki]

btw....nice choice of color...i highly recommend goin with duponts chroma-base system...i do believe that that is a three stage system...being...base-mid-and top coats...do you plan on spryin yourself?

[Duzzes_Wild]

one gallon, u will only use about half

[contranication]

I used a little more than a pint on mine but I didn't change the color much from the stock color.... oh yeah +1 on 95 kouki he knows what he's talking about

[yaba94070]

95 kouki...
thanks a lot for all the info and ya that color is sick... Can you recomend some of good paint companys cause the ones i found are cheap but apperently bad quality.
Duzzes Wild...
thanks im gonna get a gallon then..

[sideview_180sx]

sikkens.ppg.alsacorp. gotta pay to play.

[jkgaddis]

so, ive never painted a car but i did my bike and it came out pretty damned nice. i used the dupont chromo-premier system. its 3 stage, Primer/color/clear

on the subject of how to paint. go to www.carcraft.com and go throught their tech articles, good shit. lots of painting info. then run down to borders or barnes and noble and buy a coffe and read and take notes out of the paint books in the auto section. teach yourself for sure.

[yaba94070]

so how do i get this paint???
dupont chromo-premier system

[95Kouki]

highly recommend dupont chromabase system...this includes the Valushade,Base coat,mid-coat,and top (clear coat)...i personally mixed my custom color blend at the body shop that painted my car...

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/s14biggs/randypaint-1.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/s14biggs/carboothwet.jpg


all dupont products
2 quarts of valueshade for bottom
3 quarts of custom white base for bottom
.75 quart of valueshade for top
1.0 quart of custom black base for top
3 quarts of custom blended mid coat (Green and Silver Pearls<secert weights on these> with base and reducer)
1 gallon of Dupont 2400 Clear...

these measurements are after proper reducers and activors where applicable...

Base coats usually consist of base which is colorless,obviously pigments to give it color, a flop control agent (if metallics are to be mixed in with base coat...this part of the mixture makes the metallics stand up in the paint) obviously before it goes into the gun it needs to be reduced to the proper viscosity for it to spray properly...

you goin for a show quality finish...oem finish..or maaco finish?

[chmercer]

2 tone hood. FUCK

[95Kouki]

hey chmercer... whats' wrong with that?

[Jung918]

hey chmercer... whats' wrong with that?


He is jealous.

[95Kouki]

thanks man....too bad that car got owned 2 months after i got it out of paint...damnit...

[heyitzalan]

where do u buy dupont auto paint?

[95Kouki]

any AUTHORIZED Auto Body Supplied that is licensed to carry DuPont refinishing products...

[yaba94070]

highly recommend dupont chromabase system...this includes the Valushade,Base coat,mid-coat,and top (clear coat)...i personally mixed my custom color blend at the body shop that painted my car...

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/s14biggs/randypaint-1.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/s14biggs/carboothwet.jpg


all dupont products
2 quarts of valueshade for bottom
3 quarts of custom white base for bottom
.75 quart of valueshade for top
1.0 quart of custom black base for top
3 quarts of custom blended mid coat (Green and Silver Pearls<secert weights on these> with base and reducer)
1 gallon of Dupont 2400 Clear...

these measurements are after proper reducers and activors where applicable...

Base coats usually consist of base which is colorless,obviously pigments to give it color, a flop control agent (if metallics are to be mixed in with base coat...this part of the mixture makes the metallics stand up in the paint) obviously before it goes into the gun it needs to be reduced to the proper viscosity for it to spray properly...

you goin for a show quality finish...oem finish..or maaco finish?
i want show quality for sure...

[yaba94070]

where do u buy dupont auto paint?
I will have to see how long it takes for mine because its a track and show only car
lol
maybe once in a blue moon i will take it out on the road
lol
it kind of to fast for the street though
not saying that a bad thing
lol

[koukimonster139]

do not use a DA sander on any primer surfaces...unless you want wavy ass panels....this is what you should do...hit the car up with 220 and then shoot the car with a high quality poly primer...follow the mixing directions on the can(poly-primer uses mekp as a hardener)...it is a high solid primer so you need to a 1.7 - 1.8 nozzle on your hvlp gun...let it cure up...it does not air dry like solvent based primer...it is very similar to fiberglass resin...so once it cures hit it with 220 on a long block...workin it in 3 directions at all times
make sure u get rid of all you low and high spots...make adjustments to panels as necessary...then lightly mist the car with "guide coat".... then wet sand the car 400 wet and sand down until the guide coat is gone...this is to ensure that all the larger sanding scratches will not show up in the base coat....hit the whole car with grease and wax remover...let it fully evap...then tack cloth the car before spraying your base....let flash...tack cloth the car between coats after they flash...this ensures that everything will be uniform...trust me...




LOL
wow. u fucking overwork yourself to the max

if you know how to use a DA properly you can use it on anything and have a perfectly flat surface

instead of starting with 220 and sanding your life away, start with 180 then go to 320

guide coat = not necessary

wet sanding = not necessary


you do not use a tack cloth at all after spraying any base or clear.

[95Kouki]

a DA sander give you a perfectly flat finish...don't think so...my next question to you...why wouldn't you use a guide coat...huh?...oh thats right you probably shoot cars with some shitty ass single stage paint...so you like seeing all of the sanding scratches in you base coat...and no wet sanding....now i just know you're some punk kid who thinks he knows his shit...show some pix of your ghetto fab paint job then....you fuckin smartass

[heyitzalan]

lol that was funny, but a good comment.

[koukimonster139]

a DA sander give you a perfectly flat finish...don't think so...my next question to you...why wouldn't you use a guide coat...huh?...oh thats right you probably shoot cars with some shitty ass single stage paint...so you like seeing all of the sanding scratches in you base coat...and no wet sanding....now i just know you're some punk kid who thinks he knows his shit...show some pix of your ghetto fab paint job then....you fuckin smartass

aww

gotcha all flustered cause I called you on ur shit?

1. your first bunch of words doesnt equal a sentence or a question
2. you can clearly fucking see where you have sanded enough without a guide coat.
3.PPG global line = shitty ass single stage? .....
4. lol @ you calling me a punk kid when you cant even defend yourself without resorting to name calling
5. Pictures will be here tomorrow.


end.

[95Kouki]

sooo scared...and how many cars have you body worked...prepped and painted yourself?

[koukimonster139]

hmmm 20-30?


One of the current ones will be featured and sold at Barrett Jackson.
Ill get you the pictures when I go to work tomorrow.


ok im done with you for now

[95Kouki]

wow...you work at a bodyshop...don't know of any reasonably respectable bodyshop that doesn't use a long block to avoid waves on large panels...so you work for Maaco?...real achievement...

[94cc0rd]

wow... will u guys STFU... this thread is to educate people on painting... not for e-thugging and bickering...

with that said, there seems to be some good information in the thread... so let's keep it that way instead of it getting locked because you guys couldn't resolve an issue through Private messages..

[Gumballf355]

hahah Everyone does it differently... and you really don't need guide coat... but it makes life easier and insures that everything is going smoothly. I use guide coat all the time... true it takes alot longer but some people are very picky. When you work at a high volume bodyshop you tend to shortcut alot.
That is probably where he was taught that he didn't need guide coat. I'd like to see detailed pictures of the cars he's worked on... I'm curious to see what kind of work comes from shortcutting steps.
http://www.dropshots.com/photos/149/20061013/b_110158.jpg
http://www.dropshots.com/photos/149/20061206/b_114945.jpg
http://www.dropshots.com/photos/149/20061206/b_154309.jpg

[Pank]

I HAVE WORKED ON OVER SIXTEEN THOUSAND CARS AND THAT IS JUST IN THE LAST WEEK, YOU GUYS ARE OBVIOUSLY POSERS AND A LOT WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED BY FIGHTING OVER THE INTERNET SO LETS DO THAT THEN.



Dickwaving contests are stupid, doggz

also, the car above me is shiny and all that, but pull that blue shit off your front wheel, it looks ridic

[95Kouki]

/\/\/\/\/\ - That shit looks fuckin hot...VS Aero I am assuming...

but yeah...though i may not agree with with koukimonster has to say...gumball does indeed make a very good point...everyone does it their own way...i am just goin from what i've been taught and have learned the hardway...try to avoid using a DA sander...it might save a fuck load of time...but i bet it will not give you the same results as the long block...put it to you this way...the guy that actually sprayed my car....has been spraying cars for toyota and lexus concept cars...for the last 7-10 years...we are talkin the cars that goto detroit,LA, and all car shows accross the globe...so my sources are way beyond par...not some local bodyshop that fixes doordings and the such...

yaba...do the best with what you can afford...and remember...that the paint finish and the body will get damaged regardless of how good of a driver you are....or you be a poor fuck like me and get rear-ended by a bitch on a cell...

[Pank]

YEAH DUDE WE GET IT. You have no idea where that guy works, so just shut the hell up already. If you were really hoss, you'd be rolling Alsa products

[yaba94070]

yaba...do the best with what you can afford...and remember...that the paint finish and the body will get damaged regardless of how good of a driver you are....or you be a poor fuck like me and get rear-ended by a bitch on a cell...

that had to suck getting rear ended....
but honestly man that seems like so much work.... im jsut trying to find a shop thats going to get me some stage 3 paint i want it to be perfect. Right now the biggest bitch other than finding it is taking the 12 diffrent colors of paint that is on my car. I mean talk about a sanding night mare its gonna take for ever and u dn;t ahev a bigg enuf air compresser to use my high speed sander. It only works for a sec then its back to eletric which takes for ever...
lol
im not going to paint it though its going to a prefesional shop.. so if anyone knows of anybody who does it perfect and can help mix the paint please let me know. And thanks 95Kouki for all the help i learned a shit load about painting a car in this thread and most of it is way to much for me 2 do cause im alos rebuilding 3 diffrent S13 black tops at the same time...
lol i think im gonna go nuts with this car

[koukimonster139]

:) as promised



widebody 914 racecar
In this pic, the entire car has been DA'd. Ill paint it tomorrow, maybe friday and ill post pics then of how not wavy it is.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/IM000481-1.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/IM000482.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/IM000483.jpg
hood
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/IM000485.jpg


The camaro and the W30 Olds 442 are going to Barrett Jackson upon completion.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/IM000486.jpg
pic before cut and buff
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/IM000492.jpg

Maaco does frame offs? damn
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/IM000489.jpg

check out the shitty ass single stage paint :keke:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/IM000494.jpg

[95Kouki]

what's with all the dust...to cover sanding scratches and waves....how uncool are you...also...maaco will paint a frame...hey they'll even paint your mom's shoes if you pay them...hmm...backyard garage and a homemade spray booth...ghetto fab...rookie....

[koukimonster139]

rofl.

i dumped dust on the car so 95kouki would have something to reply with.


... put down the maaco pamphlet and read the thread.
the car is not wet sanded or buffed yet, therefore it is completely pointless to clean it off everyday

ugh. more pics for R-tard after cut and buff

[fromxtor]

Koukimonster as discussed previously you need to come visit the east coast...and paint my hatch. :bigok:

[Siizzzoooo]

I recommend wetsanding because you will get impeccable results, if you want show quality that is

all panels wetsanded....
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b260/sizzo2/IMG_0875.jpg

the fenders came out almost like metal fenders, I was quite pleased
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b260/sizzo2/Paint%20Job/IMG_1014.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b260/sizzo2/Paint%20Job/IMG_1004.jpg

[95Kouki]

kid...you're not a painter...you're a "body" man...a "body" man who doesn't believe in a long block...just doesn't classify as a reputable source...until you can you understand what a long block does...go play with some bondo....would love to see you DA a a curved panel and make it nice and smoth..and wouldn't trust a shop who built their own spraybooth using HVAC ducting and Interior doors for an entry to spray my car that's for damn sure...leave the real bodywork and paint to the professionals...lay off the thinner boy...shit has already made you retarded...would hate to see you brain dead...or wait...maybe you're already to late for that...but hey...you're a shitty "body" man...so it doesn't matter anyways.....

[yaba94070]

I recommend wetsanding because you will get impeccable results, if you want show quality that is

all panels wetsanded....
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b260/sizzo2/IMG_0875.jpg

the fenders came out almost like metal fenders, I was quite pleased
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b260/sizzo2/Paint%20Job/IMG_1014.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b260/sizzo2/Paint%20Job/IMG_1004.jpg
thats an awsome job....
heres the question on what sanding though....
can i use anysand paper caus this is what im dealing with...
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/yaba94070/Picture002.jpg
theres like 12 diffrent colors of paint and 4 diffrent paint jobs and i wpuld like all the paint gone....
so what should i do ???
I don;t get the reason for wet...
does it go faster at taking away paint????????
of should i dry sand most of the paint off the go to wet to get it perfect

[yokotas13]

aircraft stripper to metal

[Gumballf355]

Have it professionally media blasted since you completely stripped the car anyways.

[Duzzes_Wild]

95 kouki...
thanks a lot for all the info and ya that color is sick... Can you recomend some of good paint companys cause the ones i found are cheap but apperently bad quality.
Duzzes Wild...
thanks im gonna get a gallon then..


alot of people mess up a paint job by mixing different chemical compounded paints

i.e. each paint line has its own chemical structure, but it can also vary in the brand its self, u can run cheap paint succesfully if you make sure everything matches, altough i deff recommend dupont i work at a dupont retailer so i get it at cost so i love the stuff, if u order from your paint retailer ask them if they can get you a short filled gallon that should save you some dough

[kansas240]

heres the question on what sanding though....
can i use anysand paper caus this is what im dealing with...


If you have to ask this, maybe you should hire on of these tough guys to do it. You want show car quality? It doesn't happen the first time out of the booth. Sorry, but in the real world this shit co$ts.

I don't mean to be, well, a dick, but body work is expensive because of the skill involved. You will not have a show car if you try to paint that car. Won't happen.

[Gumballf355]

Seems like they know how to tell it like it is in Kansas... hahaha In my experience sometimes you have to make mistakes to learn.

[kansas240]

Seems like they know how to tell it like it is in Kansas... hahaha In my experience sometimes you have to make mistakes to learn.

Damn right. I just wonder if his "sponsors" know he doesn't know how to buy paint?
yaba94070, For someone getting into journalism, working "all day" for a magazine, your writing is terrible.

[Justin Bernstein]

95Kouki - what ever happened with your whip...you got rear-ended right? did you get your INS money? new whip?

[95Kouki]

yaba...do the best you can with 220 on a DA to knock it down to the factory color...because if you take it all the way to bare metal...you'll just be making yourself a fuckload of prepwork...first if you aircraft remove it you need to clean the shit out of it to remove all residue....not to mention that is some nasty stuff to work with...also if you take it down to baremetal...you now need to prep the metal and shoot it with etching primer...more steps involved and more money...if you can...take it down to the factory finish and evaluate the condition of the finish...if it's in good shape...start from there...if not...well my friend you are on quite an adventure to properly prep the car....put it to you this way...anybody can shoot a car and make it look somewhat decent...but it takes skill and experience to prep a car to make the finish look good and be extremely durable...remember the paint finish is only as good as what's underneath it...any jackass response made by the "shade tree body man" you should ignore....lol

[kansas240]

...and how many cars have you body worked...prepped and painted yourself?

start to finish only 5 or 6, but it's not my job and I don't do it for fun, so...

[95Kouki]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/s14biggs/PIC-0018.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/s14biggs/PIC-0019.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/s14biggs/PIC-0020.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/s14biggs/PIC-0021.jpg

Real products....real shop....real skill...= Baller Paint Job

[yaba94070]

shit so i think im fucked. Cause some dumb ass egged my car and keyed it down to the metal. So i sanded some parts down to the metal so am i fucked???? Now i feel like a total dumb ass....
I was jsut trying to get some of the paint away to save labor but i guess that was wrong.. The top coats from earl shine so i have to get ride of that on then i guess i will go to stock paint or whats left
lol

[koukimonster139]

lol 95kouki you work in a collision shop... thaaattt sux
now i see why your ego barely fits in this room :/

anyway dont sand it down to stock color with 220. that will take fucking forever. 80 grit down to factory paint, bare metal on spots that are really fucked, then step up 80-120-320 while doing your filler work over the bare metal spots.


END PLEASE

[yaba94070]

thanks dude i didn't know if i was fucked cause i hit some spots metal and i didn;t know if that meant i had to take it all down....
so just go down to factor i am using 100 is that chill i couldn;t find any lower though........ but if i wanted to do some bondo work should i just do it over stock paint...
i din;t know if i needed to go down to the metal for that...

[95Kouki]

actually no i don't buddy....i work at a high end stereo shop...but i do build manufacturer show cars for CES and SEMA...10 within the last 4 years...so i know a thing or do from building a car from the ground up...i might not be the best but i do learn from the best...also workin on ASE and I-Car certs does have its perks...hey koukimonster do u actually know what an I-CAR cert is?...by your autobody skills...i doubt it....

Yaba take what koukimonster has to say with a grain of salt...he may have been taught that way...and i definitely dont' agree with what he has to say...like i said earlier...get down to the stock finish and evaluate...if worse comes to worse...you will have to go down to the metal...i warn you it will be a bitch...etching primer will become your best friend...also food for thought...i would avoid using bondo (or equivilant) and use USC All-Metal Aluminized Filler...it will be alot harder to work with as sanding can be an absolute bitch...but it is much more flexible then Bondo...just FYI "YOU MUST APPLY ALL FILLERS TO PROPERLY PREPARED BARE METAL...DO NOT MIX ON CARDBOARD"....

"anyway dont sand it down to stock color with 220. that will take fucking forever. 80 grit down to factory paint"...hey koukimonster...isn't stock color and factory paint the same shit???....now you really need lay off of the thinner man...because you're more of a retard today then you were three days ago...tard

Yaba...i feel that it is best if you take your car to a reputable body shop...if this is your first car to prep yourself...and you expect a show finish that will last...you're goin to be in for a rude awakening...

[koukimonster139]

:love: oooo yay we're buddies now

do you seriously need me to upload pics of my certs from PPG, I-CAR and ASE?



P.S. please learn how to quote a post correctly, so I and others know what the hell you are babbling about

P.S.S rofl at whoever left this rep : Fuck 95Kouki I hope hail the size of softballs lands on his car tomarrow.

[Pank]

"anyway dont sand it down to stock color with 220. that will take fucking forever. 80 grit down to factory paint"...hey koukimonster...isn't stock color and factory paint the same shit???....now you really need lay off of the thinner man...because you're more of a retard today then you were three days ago...tard

haha, uhhh, he DID say it was the same thing. Holy shit, are you that obsessed with proving to everyone that you make 12 dollars an hour at a Buggy Bumpers? I've seen basketball players with less of an ego than you.

(p.s. i dont even wax my car, whats that all about.)

[95Kouki]

Pank do you ever having anything positive to say?

[ESone3]

I have a question, i noticed in alot of write ups people say during the final stages take a 1000 grit sand paper then polish... then thats it. With my experiance... which is very little, after i sand, the surface is so dull, even is i was to add a rubbing compound/ or wax... there is no way it can come back to a shiney finish. What do you think i' m doing wrong?

[fromxtor]

95kouki: From my experience people who get in all out battles about what they can and cant do, usually means the person is not confident in their skills. I am an Aircraft Hydraulics systems technician specializing in F15s(even though I've worked on most of the aircraft the USAF have in thier inventory), you need to just let this go. Everyone has thier own way of doing things often with the same results. So how about we all act like grown ass adults and stop bickering. :D :bow:

[pbcstylez]

can somebody answer esone3's question i got the same problem?

[95Kouki]

from experience sand to 1000...then wool bonnet 3M Perfect-It III Extra Cut
Rubbing Compound...don't panic...wool bonnet will leave some swirls...that's what the next step is for...then foam pad 3M Perfect-It III Machine Glaze... this will remove the swirls generated by the rubbing compound and wool bonnet during the previous step...then use 3M Perfect-It III Finishing Glaze or any high quality carnuba wax... if you've never color-sanded and buffed a car...be very careful not to burn through the clear...if you do...you're in for a world of hurt...

[pbcstylez]

sand with 1000, will wetsand be any different or beneficial?

[95Kouki]

it has to be wet sanded...1000 grit will clog fast if dry...

[yaba94070]

fuck guys thanks for all the help....
and ya 95kouki i am taking you advice about the shop thing
lol
cuase man theres so much work to be done. I was sanding with 80 grit and fuck thats taking for ever so i just we over the hole car with 220 and primered it. Yes it looks like shit and i did it right be fore ran so there would be no rust....
and i did drip like a dumb ass cause i rushed but hay i got a 10$ primer job
lol
i did it with 2 can which i give my self props for cause i did my friends nova perfectly but it took 4 diffrent coats to make a solid one and 4 cans
lol
but ya so if any one knows of any good shops for high quality body work and paint jobs please let me know

[pbcstylez]

wait iirc rattle can primer is not necessarily good for prep for auto paint right?

[95Kouki]

rattle can primer is a no no... :nono:

now you have to sand that back down to bare metal...feather-edge and smooth it out...and then follow directions listed here

http://www.performancecoatings.dupont.com/dpc/en/us/html/prodinfo/chromasystem/H-19303_615S.pdf

for dupont's Vari prime self-etching primer...you just made your self a whole lot of work:eek3:

[yaba94070]

i know....
but like i said theres hella fucked up apint under it so it all has to go anyway....
so one coat of primer isn't really a big deal. I would post pics but its not the same if you saw the car you would be like holly fu..ck. It sad how much paitn and work has to go into this car just to get rid off all that paint so im gonna wait till ihave a good long streek of sunny days till i try to sand it all off

[OBEEWON]

I feel for you man. If it was me I would be so fed up I'd spray the whole thing with Rhino Liner.

[Pank]

Pank do you ever having anything positive to say?


I do when the person I'm talking to doesn't think he's the last word in automotive paint. I'll give you that you know your stuff. You know you know your stuff, and others do but that doesn't make you king swing-dick of everyone. You dont have to be a jerk about it and get in a huge pointless internet pissing contest. Its retarded.

but if it came down to it, i'd pay to have you paint my car, you are anal as hell about it. (as you should be)


also, HOLY SHIT look how big that sig image is above me.

[240sx2jz]

i know this is slightly off topic but i figured id ask. i wanna get into painting so i painted my buddies jeep doors. It was a single stage acrylic but the guy at the paint store (providence lacquer) said to just use rattle can primer, sand with 400 and spray it, came out alright. so i wanna do a nicer job on my buddies bike but this is gonna be a tank, front body kit race uper, and tail all fiberglass thats supposed to be "ready to paint". so what kinda primer to use, and im guessing i would need to use the flex additive on the tail and front. any help would be appreciated, Dane

[GSXRJJordan]

I have some experience with "ready to paint" bike fairings... SharkSkinz come primered and ready to go, just wet sand with 800 or 1000 and you're set. Some cheaper companies might need some 300, then 600 or 800 to prep. The tank is the hard part, as you'll need to be careful not to go all the way down to bare metal, or else you'll have to seal, primer, then prep.

[2slow2go]

my brother has a paintbooth like that but no windows lol

[yaba94070]

I feel for you man. If it was me I would be so fed up I'd spray the whole thing with Rhino Liner.
man if primer wasn't cheaper then i would of been there
lol

[yaba94070]

I do when the person I'm talking to doesn't think he's the last word in automotive paint. I'll give you that you know your stuff. You know you know your stuff, and others do but that doesn't make you king swing-dick of everyone. You dont have to be a jerk about it and get in a huge pointless internet pissing contest. Its retarded.

but if it came down to it, i'd pay to have you paint my car, you are anal as hell about it. (as you should be)


also, HOLY SHIT look how big that sig image is above me.
lol finally some one ended it
lol
thanks pank

[240sx2jz]

thanks Jordan, actually the bod kit is sharkskinz. i read that people had good luck with them so i pushed him towards ordering from them. with the tank you just wanna get throught the clear and then wet sand with 400?? and then its ready for primer and paint? i just dont wanna screw this up ya know.
thanks Dane

[jrocslider]

I'm calling bullshit on that one.
I would NOT trust a parts counter guy, period.
He has done the right thing by asking and he has gotten his answer: 1 gallon, so long as nothing more is fucked off.

haha i'm a "parts counter guy" at advance and i'd be able to let u know whats up cause i can paint... than again i wouldnt even waste my time at oreillys or autozone at least not around here.