I <3 C-Pillar Bars

[DriftSpecial180]

I ordered a c-pillar bar and while i was installing it a friend an I had an idea, but it would require another bar. so i ordered one the same day and a couple days later i got ..... YEEEEHAAAAWWW

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/undyingremorsex/partsforsale035.jpg

[arkive43]

looks good but ur harnesses look like there mounted too low...

[Brian]

oh thats pretty sweet.
Low budget DIY Miracle X Bar.

[DriftSpecial180]

oh thats pretty sweet.
Low budget DIY Miracle X Bar.


Yeah. ~$60 :naughty:

[A Spec Products]

What is it bolted to near the strut towers?

I can't tell.

But yeah, kudos on the DIY miracle bar

[DriftSpecial180]

It is bolted to the strut towers.

[A Spec Products]

It is bolted to the strut towers.

Duh, I know that, but did you just drill hole and bolt through the front triangle piece?

Cause on left side looks like there is a bracket, but it might just be the picture.

[YoungRookie]

Can you still put in the back seats if you wanted to with the way you have the bars set up

[Creizai]

Duh, I know that, but did you just drill hole and bolt through the front triangle piece?

Cause on left side looks like there is a bracket, but it might just be the picture.
Yeah I cant really tell either more pics please?

[SilviaVsSupra]

looks really cool... id like to see some more angled pics
nice job

[2iv0 sx]

Megan c pillars?

Funny.. i did that with one of my pillar bar... lol few months ago then i sold it.

[nixad]

you guys just have bad eyes lol

He keeps the C pillar bar brackets and bolts it to the strut tower

[DriftSpecial180]

Ugh. alright, give me a sec i'll go get more pics.

[DJ_Sunrise]

wow great idea, i just might have to do the same in my S14 haha. pimp on a budget :)

[jdm538]

very nice

will that work on the coupe?

[DriftSpecial180]

Yeah, should work any of the chassis

[ThatGuy]

You can't get from the seat belt mounts to the shock towers like that in the Coupe. The rear shelf would be in the way.

[DriftSpecial180]

ThayGuy is right, the metal panel that separates the trunk from the cabin is in the way.


Hope this will clear things up:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/AnthonySil80/DSCN2359.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/AnthonySil80/DSCN2361.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/AnthonySil80/DSCN2362.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/AnthonySil80/DSCN2363.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/AnthonySil80/DSCN2365.jpg

[A Spec Products]

Thanks for clearing that up.

[MURPHY]

notice any improvement? they just cheap ebay ones or what?

[A Spec Products]

I think this was more cosmetic than functional.

I'm sure when he pulls in driveways the car may "creak" less, but thats about it.

Still neat tho.

[s14dude]

doesn't look like it provides a ton of structural support with the way its mounted.


but it looks awesome!! +1

[SimpleSexy180]

nice setup.

geez guys. either way its better than NO bars at all.

[s13gold]

nice idea....where did u order those from???
ebay? or are those megan?

[NemeGuero]

nice idea....where did u order those from???
ebay? or are those megan?

There's a difference?

[McRussellPants]

If he mounted them together in the center somehow to where it was rigid they'd probably help quite a bit.



Eitherway, useless bars that are polished are lollers, and make nice reflections when you have rainbow neon interior.

[SimpleSexy180]

no difference if it was ebay,megan,cusco,tein, or any other company.

[downshift_sideways]

If he mounted them together in the center somehow to where it was rigid they'd probably help quite a bit.



Eitherway, useless bars that are polished are lollers, and make nice reflections when you have rainbow neon interior.

:keke: I would agree.

[Ian]

Yeah...This isn't really doing much but drawing more attention to the car as far as I can tell...

I mean, there's no load up there


it might help against flex a little bit, but not to the point of effecting handling

[DriftSpecial180]

Yeah...This isn't really doing much but drawing more attention to the car as far as I can tell...

I mean, there's no load up there


it might help against flex a little bit, but not to the point of effecting handling



Well that doesn't really make sense considering chassis flex has an effect on handling.


Also, i have witnessed enhanced rigidity. I have big speedbumps at work that i could creep over ever time, but with these and a ebay floor bar, the car catches some 3 wheel motion that i'd never used to get. Matter of fact, i got stuck today and had to push my car back down the speedbump (No LSD). I was jacking the car up from the front driver side the other day to install a header and the rear tire ALMOST got off the ground the same time as the front.

[d*star180]

Shits hot dude. Props to joo for sharing.....i woulda kept it on the downlow.

[Matej]

Your spine will snap if you hit something hard enough.

[bigOdom1]

funniest thing said all day/\/\/\/\

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

funniest thing said all day/\/\/\/\


too bad you have no idea what he's talking about. :hsdance:

[DR566799]

i dunno what he's talking about either, but that shit is funny

so are these megan racing or what?

nice install man...i would give you a posi, but I'm pretty sure my friend said I can only give shitty gray squares right now

[C. Senor]

almost makes me wanna have a hatch so i could do that.

[undesiredshoe]

The crossing of the bars doesnt look like its in the middle of the car...shouldnt it be in the middle?

[DriftSpecial180]

Your spine will snap if you hit something hard enough.

He's talking about the harnesses. Well if i crash i hope i die, i couldn't live without my car :love: :keke:

I got the bars off Ebay. Megan racing or whatever, they all should work.

They MIGHT not cross exactly in the middle cause the mounting locations are a little diff on each side (refer to pictures). But the picture is taken at an angle too.

[lexusisforlovers]

I think this was more cosmetic than functional.

I'm sure when he pulls in driveways the car may "creak" less, but thats about it.

Still neat tho.
Haha trust me driveways are not an option for anthony. at least not my driveway.

[A Spec Products]

Haha trust me driveways are not an option for anthony. at least not my driveway.

No aero no crybaby

[SimpleSexy180]

pish posh.

ill order an ebay bar for this. i need one more.

you should paint them. i painted mine gold because the whole chrome thing reminds me of hondas =/

[lexusisforlovers]

No aero no crybaby
haha no i dont even remember if he scraped. it was more an issue of one wheel in the air and the other jammed inside the fender so far that it wouldnt spin. supar stuck. haha anyways props on sick bar/s. Did the floor bar fit without modification?

[sideview_180sx]

if you were to make a bracket that at least connects to the other shock tower bolt. or at least changed the direction of that bend on the bracket. i can only imagine how much stiffer of a ride it would be. its something different. obviously he went for looks over functionality. looks nice. I think.

[!Zar!]

A for putting the bars in all cool like or whatever.

F for installing your harnesses on the floor.

Did anyone ever tell you about the 45* you need or what?

I'll lol when you get in a crash. Chances are you won't die but you'll be paralyzed. Then you'll have a 240 that you couldn't drive. Nor could you kill yourself. lawl. You're so cool.

[klohiq]

Some racing classes mount the harnesses nearly level with your shoulders...it all depends on the rules...but you should have a cage if you do that and then with a cage you should be driving with a helmet on all the time in case of an accident (so your head doesn't hit the cage)...basically the 3 point seat belts that came with your car are probably safer in most crashes

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[ichi-bum]

Well if i crash i hope i die, i couldn't live without my car :love: :keke:


Nice line!! LOL

Good job it looks amazing and thanks for sharing.

[S14DB]

I've had horrible luck with those Strut tower bolts breaking. I can only imagine going over a bump and the bolt poping in half.

Be real kool if you welded it to the strut tower brace.

[mehsilvia]

I've had horrible luck with those Strut tower bolts breaking. I can only imagine going over a bump and the bolt poping in half.

Be real kool if you welded it to the strut tower brace.
Or like sideview_180sx said to fab a bracket that either spanned across all 4 bolts, or diagonal across two. Something to keep the stress from a single strut bolt. Cant imagine whats required to get that fixed.

[S14DB]

I would just tack the two brackets together(C-pillar to the strut brace). Then weld them together on the bench. Should distribute the load over the larger strut tower brace bracket then.

[ls180sx]

spinal compression ftw!! wow kinda dumb, shoulda saved the money and spent $300 on a rollbar instead of these stupid things. I guess you wanted that track car look with harnesses and 1" bars running every direction.

[DriftSpecial180]

spinal compression ftw!! wow kinda dumb, shoulda saved the money and spent $300 on a rollbar instead of these stupid things. I guess you wanted that track car look with harnesses and 1" bars running every direction.

No actually, I'm bite sized and trying to make a jungle gym out of the back of my car. Just cause i spent $60 to do this doesn't mean i still can't get a roll bar or cage.

[DriftSpecial180]

http://www.soloperformance.com/SPSMnt3.gif


Hmmmm, my harness are mounted in the same spots....

[DriftSpecial180]

No aero no crybaby

Ya, no aero. I thought about it, but i didn't want to raise my car...

[!Zar!]

Ya, no aero. I thought about it, but i didn't want to raise my car...
Maybe if you stopped riding on fifteen's...

[Matej]

Ya, no aero. I thought about it, but i didn't want to raise my car...
Hah, word.

Maybe if you stopped riding on fifteen's...
Word again, saving up.

[ls180sx]

No actually, I'm bite sized and trying to make a jungle gym out of the back of my car. Just cause i spent $60 to do this doesn't mean i still can't get a roll bar or cage.

I guess if your'e using it as a jungle gym it's probably getting used where as it has little to no effect of stiffining your chasis. You obviously don't track your car because you wouldn't pass tech with that setup, so what do you do that requires you and your passenger to have a harness?

[apexis13sx]

Badass great idea i have a c-pillar too!!

[ALTRNTV]

Badass great idea i have a c-pillar too!!
Like OMG! Like all S-chassis cars have a c-pillar!!!11!111onee

[zugoi]

Yeah that looks cool and a cheap way to do it. But it doesnt look safe or like it really has functionality. If they really work i mean its all going to one bolt like a couple people already said which isnt a good idea. Props for the idea but id make a bracket or something cuz it wouldnt be cool once u snap the shock tower bolt cuz you hung a turn to fast or something.

[DriftSpecial180]

Maybe if you stopped riding on fifteen's...

16x8 0offest work ewing meshes .... whats wrong with them?

[DriftSpecial180]

I guess if your'e using it as a jungle gym it's probably getting used where as it has little to no effect of stiffining your chasis. You obviously don't track your car because you wouldn't pass tech with that setup, so what do you do that requires you and your passenger to have a harness?


Man why are you so hostile? are you bitter cause i came up with this idea?

I got to use this set up in autoX. I don't know if the track has a more strict set of guidelines but i'd love to find out soon. Anyways, the harness aren't bolted straight down, they are in the rear seat belt mounts (as shown in the "proper mounting" illustration). In the pics they are sagging so it looks like they are bolted straight down.

And stiffining the chassis, well how do you know it doesn't work, have you been in my car? Are you the little leprechaun that takes it out on joy rides late at night? I personally have noticed the ammount of stiffening there has been when the car is on uneven surfaces.

[RPS13FREAK]

My friend had 16 of those C-pillar bars in his integra. It was really crazy looking. We called it the poor mans cage, lol.
You also have the same setup as my friends ek civic.

[Bubba]

Those look nice, too bad they aren't as helpful as what I would expect something with that much metal to have.
Still to this point I can't concentrate on anything but your slingshot mounting points. Everyone that doesn't know the proper mounting points and the reasons for them should really look into this info. Or maybe you can find the video my auto-body teacher used to show us the importance of them. (not an actual safety video):hammer: It coiuld mean the difference between a small fender bender and a guy in a giant sling. I sure hope you know where the lap belt bolts to, seriously.

[chibo]

Interesting setup but... it's been stated already, but fix your harness setup :(
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s6/chibobackup/install1.gif

[!Zar!]

16x8 0offest work ewing meshes .... whats wrong with them?
They are small.

[DriftSpecial180]

yes, thanks for the concern. When i got them from crow, i discussed this situation. They told me about the 45* mounting as well. And even the illustration (ealier in the thread) shows the rear seat belt mounts as a proper location.

They are small.


Haha, but 17's would raise my ground clearance and just look silly:keke: . But since its my car i think i'll just do what i like.

[ThatGuy]

Raise your clearance?
I just went from 15" wheels to 18" wheels without sacrificing clearance.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=1277458&postcount=56

[mehsilvia]

yes, thanks for the concern. When i got them from crow, i discussed this situation. They told me about the 45* mounting as well. And even the illustration (ealier in the thread) shows the rear seat belt mounts as a proper location.
DriftSpecial180, you need to be a little careful in your defense. That diagram also makes reference to what looks like a 4-door vehicle where the angle that far back would be less of a decline. A coupe or hatch rear-belt mounting points could very well be too steep for regulators.

That brings me to the next point. Regulations will most certainly vary between organizations and types of organized racing. Hell, why do you think their are so many fucking models of roll-bars, cages and alike?

I say if you are secured by those harness, and you have no issues with passing tech at the type of motorsports you do, then so be it. Happy trails.

Btw, i do dig the c-pillar setup. Pretty cool shit. I just purchased a 1 1/2" steel bar and a couple plates ($7.98) to weld in my own c-pillar to use as a harness bar myself. I myself dont think im gonna pass tech at the tracks I race at with the belts mounted to the rears.
And yes i am a cheap motherfucker like the majority of us on the board.

I say anyone who shits on an idea for a "cheaper alternative" can go eat a dick. /rant

Good luck and thanks for sharing.

[chmercer]

everyone is a fucking preacher on here

check it out

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45 degree layback is fine to mount a harness, FIA spec is all like this, that schroth install diagram, takata is the same way, etc.

only way the belts will push you down into the seat is if you are taller than the seat or the seat back like busts in half. otherwise its just going to pivot off the harness slots. and if your seat breaks you are doing 30 barrel rolls.

obviously if the dude has a 30 point cage and drives everywhere with a helmet and nomex he will probably be safer

but its fucking stupid to nit pick for a whole page of posts

in regards to car being higher with 17s i sure hope it wouldnt be, my wheels and tires are pretty large and the rolling diameter is the same or smaller than stock, as long as you dont run like 50 series tires you will be the same or smaller.

to the op, you have some whack shear going on with those brackets being flipped the other way like that, it would work better if you flipped them around and shortened the rods. or possibly you could try bolting the ends to the end points on the strut bar, where those alan screws are.

[DriftSpecial180]

I don't know why the a "I <3 c-pillar" thread turned into hate on my harnesses thread, but i did just contact a friend of mine who had takata's in his car (EG civic). He bolted them to the rear seat belt mounts as well and was allowed to run at track events. He also mentioned that after discussing mounting locations with other enthusiasts that spinal compression is often only an issue during roll over.

As for my car's height. I was just on 17x9's with 215/45's and maxxed out KTS's. the sidewalls had a good stretch to the overall tire height was minimal. Now i'm on 16x8 with a 195/50, but the sidewalls are barely stretched (different kind of tire). The car sits lower with the 16's now, thats what i mean.

[d*star180]

They are small.
I REALLY wanna see your car.
No hate or anything......just wanna see it. Because you talk ALOT.
Let the guy do whatever..........bars look pimpin.......probably works at least a little if not moderately. His car's clean.......Ill take 16x8 Work Ewing over 17x9.5 Work Emos anyday of the week. Its all in the eye of the beholder.....people need to chill with the hate. Its a car youll probably never see in person.

[DriftSpecial180]

Thanks to everyone who showed the love...

D*Star180- Today, i stripped the black off the ewing's and they are now a glossy silver. They look amazing. The black wasn't that noticable, now they pop : )

[2iv0 sx]

I was goin to buy those, but then the seller said they were sold. And now your rubbin it in my face. :bigok:

Anyways, would it be possible to bolt up another pillar bar stright across where the bar normally goes?

[DriftSpecial180]

Yes, you just need a longer bolt to feed through the bracket and that should work. If i get another one i'll post it up so you can see what i mean.

[130sx]

Despite all the hate in this thread, it has turned out to be pretty informative compared to most general chat threads. Xbrace is pretty nice looking :naughty: when I eventually get an S13 I'll probly have to buy those since I don't want rear seats in my car anyway.

[DriftSpecial180]

Word...you can only connect though if you have a hatch.

[Wei240]

and if you do have a rear seat, you can just find a bar to connect the c pillar, as the original one is suppose to do... where the rear seat belt mounts to...

all in all, some bar > no bar...

[130sx]

Word...you can only connect though if you have a hatch.

that's the only s13 I'd get :)...

though a nice two-tone coupe with a silvia conversion can look nice, I want the utility and sportier look of the fastback. I wonder which looks better with a roof rack?? I've got a kayak and I want to start snowboarding next year...lol