homemad turbo kit???

[formeRiceR]

I'm somewhat new to the business of turboing, so all I really need is a turbo manifold, a turbo, an intercooler the piping, the oil line and that else?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> this is going on a KA engine, get I get a SR turbo to fit on to a KA?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

I don't wanna get a kit because it's too expensive, an I could get like a used turbo and I/c from japan, so what else do I need....if I turbo my KA will it blow up (thinking about like 8-9 psi), will I need to upgrade my ECU???

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (formeRiceR @ July 23 2002,9:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm somewhat new to the business of turboing, so all I really need is a turbo manifold, a turbo, an intercooler the piping, the oil line and that else?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
besides the labor of tapping the oil pan, the fittings for the oil feed and drain, and the couplings for the pipes, you also need the downpipe, some sort of fuel management to allow your engine to receive more fuel, a clutch that will handle the higher output (stock clutch reportedly won't hold much over 200hp), gauges to monitor the turbo and vital engine functions (especially important in something NOT guaranteed to work), a blow off valve, fittings for the intake vacuum lines, (boosting over 4 psi) a fuel pump, and a wastegate with the correct spring.
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">this is going on a KA engine, get I get a SR turbo to fit on to a KA?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> the SR turbo would fit onto a KA with a custom manifold, but the turbo won't boost much on the KA. &nbsp;The turbo is relatively small, and the KA is relatively big. &nbsp;i.e. NOT a good idea.
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't wanna get a kit because it's too expensive</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
in all likelyness be at least prepared to spend as much as you would on an inexpensive kit (NSport or XS kits run around $3000). &nbsp;Even with kits, you need more than they give you. &nbsp;If you can spend less... good. &nbsp;But the whole thing not being a tested prooven method of turbo'ing (with any homemade project) be prepared to revert all the way back to stock in a worst case scenario. &nbsp;[i'm NOT saying don't do it... just saying be prepared]
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I could get like a used turbo and I/c from japan, so what else do I need....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i already listed most of the components... be prepared to have the turbo rebuilt... you never know what you'll get with a used part.
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if I turbo my KA will it blow up (thinking about like 8-9 psi), will I need to upgrade my ECU???</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> &nbsp;8-9 psi is beyond the suggested level of boost without an upgraded ECU and larger injectors. &nbsp;7 psi is generally stated as being safe using a rising rate fuel pressure regulator.
Reportedly, with an S13, 7 psi is the safe max. &nbsp;With an S14 you can try going a bit higher in terms of boost. &nbsp;In any case, it'd be a good idea to upgrade your engine internals going into a higher boost level.

[Kreator]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (formeRiceR @ July 24 2002,8:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm somewhat new to the business of turboing, so all I really need is a turbo manifold, a turbo, an intercooler the piping, the oil line and that else?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> this is going on a KA engine, get I get a SR turbo to fit on to a KA?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

I don't wanna get a kit because it's too expensive, an I could get like a used turbo and I/c from japan, so what else do I need....if I turbo my KA will it blow up (thinking about like 8-9 psi), will I need to upgrade my ECU???</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
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In your case id go with a kit, cuz its kinda hard to do unless you know what goes where and how it works. You're prolly gonna fuck it up with custom kit. so my advice: get the book, read it and then decide for yourself.

OT: woohooo post #500! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[boosteds14]

save up and get the f-max kit
bit pricey but well worth it

the jwt ecu is best for the turbo ka's unless &nbsp;you want to go stand alone ecu like a haltec or a motec

[AngryDuckTofu]

If you're interested in doing the setup, i've got a ton of Ka24de turbo manifolds.. no custom necessary. &nbsp;

Low boost turbo setups aren't that complicated once you've got all the pieces.

Set up the oil supply and drain, piping from the turbo discharge to throttle body, downpipe to connect to the exhaust system, intake for the turbo inlet, and spark and fuel controls and you're done... sounds more complicated than it is... it's when the boost comes up that things get crazy

[formeRiceR]

if you have a safe custom setup for the KA please DO share...I'm looking for something that will take past 195 HP

[misnomer]

Duck: How are your manifolds laid out? Cast or mild steel? How much? :-)

[wherezmytofu]

if any1 is interest i could post step by step instructions on how 2 make a turbo kit...all they way from making ur own turbo manifold to finding women 2 take pictures with ur car &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[AngryDuckTofu]

They are a cast steel tubular manifold...none of that log style crap.... so it will flow like a turbo manifold should and still have the durability. &nbsp;They run $550. &nbsp;They have a T4 flange and external wastegate hookup (Deltagate and I have those too). &nbsp;T3/T4 turbos are great for smaller engines, but with a 2.4L engine, the greater flow of the T4 turbine allows more power and smoother spool. &nbsp;Don't even think of using a straight T3...way too small. &nbsp;

We're working on a KA24 setup that will allow as much power as the bottom end will take, but for right now all I can supply is the turbo and manifold. &nbsp;Once we add a 240sx to the project car fold then we'll have all the piping, intercooler, and downpipe.

I don't really like the F-Max kit... it's a little light-duty and the turbo's a little small.

[formeRiceR]

tofu: that would be very helpful

[AngryDuckTofu]

If anyone's interested... I could put together all the hard parts of a turbo setup (Turbo unit, Manifold, and wastegate) for the 240sx. &nbsp;Then all that would be needed would be inlet piping, downpipe, and blow off valve. &nbsp;If you're interested or would like some more info just e-mail me at [email protected]

[boosteds14]

turbo too small--<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
how much boost or power do u want to have
the turbo is perfect for 15psi or 350rwhp

the f-max kit is not light duty, best kit on the market that i have ever seen. better by far than nsport or xs-engineerring

[formeRiceR]

enuf to beat the shit out of a RSX type-S...210 HP not looking for a rocket, just a little more kick, ; quick spool up gonna run some thing that will be safe wih stock internals...5 psi

[Jeff240sx]

Did you read the last post you created that I answered in?
Anyway... I have spent $2700 total for my setup. &nbsp;You could take off $200 for the 3" SR20DET downpipe, and shave some off for parts, like a deltagate rather than a TiAL WG, and a less expensive (turboXS) bov, as opposed to my HKS SSQV. &nbsp;I figure, using the pieces the kits give you (mentioned above), you could buy the parts, and a RRFPR for $2500.
I have smoked a few Acura RSX bubble cars, and you really don't need as much as you think. &nbsp;They launch terribly. &nbsp;I'm sure I/H/E would get the power you need. &nbsp;
Anyway.. the entire install took about 3 days, and 1 day was just searching for funny bolts and exhaust gasket material (asbestos). &nbsp;The oil pan took about half an hour to remove and another half an hour to install. &nbsp;It is made out of some bad-ass metal, so have a bad-ass drill bit handy, and sharp. &nbsp;Other than that, it was just locating stuff in my engine without a FSM or even a Chiltons. &nbsp;If you're serious about it goin KA-T, have fun... but you will have to take it to a shop for some mystery reasons. &nbsp;Like mine is going in soon because it is having power surges. &nbsp;I can install a turbo, build a 350SB and a 402BB, but can't figure out a surging problem...
Good luck!
-Jeff