Super Street

[Sniper-X]

I know this is a bit late, but I just saw the June edition of Super Street. I know it's already july, but I don't go out and buy this crap of a magazine. Anyway, I noticed that they had a section on drifting and all I can say is....Super Street sucks. They even mentioned in part of their artical that they rip off a bunch of stuff straight from Option 2 and Tengoku drift magazines. How pathetic is that? I read through their articals about drifting and such and they offered nothing really informative except for their "witty" photo captions. If this is any indication of what the future holds for drifting/240/AE86...I weep for the future. Next thing you know every 16 year old and their "SCHiZniT" ride will be out there....I can't stand this magazine.

*say whatever you want....this is only an opinion and how I feel about the whole thing.

*edit: I was drunk when I wrote this! &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[Nerfdude]

uh.. i like super street.... &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>
i didn't like the fact that the article was pretty much useless, but i thought it was still entertaining. of course, i like SCC a lot more... hell, they're the reason i bought a 240 (April issue, i think.. build a drift car for 3k)

[sil80]

First drifting is not limited to 240's and corollas. So dont catagorized it like it only belongs to us cause it doesnt. Second: even though the artical was lame as hell it still had some good pics. Personally I feel drifting is going to be the in thing for the next 6-8months tell all the goobers wreck there cars and realized that 3k that scc through up was crock of shit. After winter months it will be something new like tiny mini vans with fish tanks and big car stereos. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[negular]

2 days ago i was checkin out the july issues,iirc, of turbo and super street, and i saw like like 4 different articles about 240s and sr swaps... im getting scared <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

[NervGS]

My friends...

I'm sure you all remember break dancing was HUGE in the 80's... &nbsp;And back like 4-5 years ago, it got popular again, showing up on news reports, all these younger high school kids wanting to be part of it all... &nbsp;Well, this was more in the Southern California LA area. &nbsp;I was part of this, but I learned back when I was in middle school in 94 (Class of 2000) before it got a "revival." &nbsp;Now what do I see? &nbsp;Its back underground, only the dedicated people are still doing it. &nbsp;And me? &nbsp;I still practice when I got time.

Hopefully this whole thing will be a fad, but I don't see how magazines like Super Street will change now, seeing as how they try to take styles from Option, Drift Tengoku, Young Version, etc, and openly admit it. &nbsp;Yes, its pretty sad to see how an American publication that started off with its roots in the mostly Honda world is now moving on to more "JDM" world now. &nbsp;I enjoyed Super Street when it first came out, reading alot more on Honda's and every now and then, a RWD car. &nbsp;But now, their writing has gone down the toilet, and it seems they are trying to pose too much, drifting this, SR that, Option here, JDM there, it seems as if this whole scene is getting a bit "fake..."

I started off in this whole scene before I got my S14 with stories my mother told me of her and her friends going to touge, and doing crazy stuff in her TA22 Celica, then a KE11 (I think) Corolla. &nbsp;I got the S14 during high school on my mother's advice, telling me its a great car to learn stuff in. &nbsp;I was hesitant to jump into the whole "import" world of cars in California, but neverless, took it as a challenge. &nbsp;At first it was Honda mania and stuff, I was okay with that, I'm down with all that stuff, "JDM" and whatever. &nbsp;Now, you got posers wanting to drift, magazines just discovering this whole "craze" and wanting to become Japanese... &nbsp;I see this as such an insult, not only to the whole American import community, but to the Japanese culture as well.

Flame on?

-glenn

[KiDyNomiTe]

Just to alert you, the August Issue should be on newstands, and its got an S13 in it, and an EVO from Vielside (sp?) There is another car but I forgot, I saw it real quick at a friends house.

[graphikg04]

You know what I think? I think its just a business thing. Super Street doesnt care whether they stole material from other places. All they want to get is money. Super Street knows that drifting is popular now, and the thing to do, and so does everybody else. Therefore, they do these 240sx to Silvia conversion articles, and build a drift car for 3k articles, and drift articles. &nbsp;Seriosly, its all about the money to big companies, thats all that matters in the end.

You can also tell with the articles about model girls and what not. Im sorry to say but, I DO NOT want to pick up a magazine that is specified in cars, and see a stupid chick in front of the car, and blocking out the nice detail, and the full picture of the car. &nbsp;If you picked up a Playboy magazine, would you want to see an RX-7 covering the girl, and not being able to see her correctly? I think not.

&nbsp; &nbsp;But, I like Super Street. Its a pretty good magazine. It has a nice amount of articles, and the magazine is thick. I like that. I just hate the idea of the magazine trying to make money off of cheap articles, and using girls for filling pages, and covering the cars. If I wanted to see a girl, I would pick up Vogue, or Elle, or some magazine like that. Not only Super Street doing that, but Import Tuner is even worse. Import Tuner is the worst. It has like 2 articles, and the other article is about a girl. And its like at an average of 87 pages thick. Thats horrible.

&nbsp; &nbsp;But, I like Turbo, SCC, and European Car, is very nice. I am not flaming or anything, but I am just evaluating the significant strategetical, complexities of the subject. &nbsp;PEACE

graphikG

[xero]

by the way, super street as also stolen shit from Velocity. &nbsp;And I thought plagerism is illegal <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

[JEdubz]

You guys are upset or something? I have been reading super street for going on a year now and I have found nothing wrong with it... Everything in there I expect to be in there. Clear washer nozzles, neon license plate covers etc. It's all based on fads. And about 240s/Silvias in super street what did you expect... There will always be fads. And I'm sure most of us who appreciate the 240/Silvia for what it really is wouldn't care if everyone didn't like it and it wasn't popular. And my guess is about 90% of you got into 240's because of someone elses. Or because of someone's Silvia you saw in Option or on Initial D.... It's not like your parents just had the car in the garage and decided to give it to you. So dont bitch...you are just the same as all these people reading super street for the 240's now talking about how they are gonna do a SyLvEEuh MoDer SwaP and PuLL maD DriFt0'S y0...You just got on the bandwaggon earlier and from a different source.


As usual this probably didnt make any sense...so disregard the last paragraph...

[xero]

I think my biggest problem with their 240sx/Silvia coverage is that the cars that have been in there aren't that big of a deal. &nbsp;I know people that have alot nicer rides than the cars in there. &nbsp;Just because you got the swap, doesn't mean your the shit. &nbsp;Especially since atleast one of those was a stock SR20DET's, yet they still got in a mag. &nbsp;And, by the way, SUPER ADVAN'S ARE WAY OVER PLAYED!! &nbsp;like 3 of the 240's I've seen in mags the last couple months have had SA-3's. &nbsp;the ugliest wheel on the face of the planet. &nbsp;Why not get some TE-37's or SSR's?

[SilviaDriver]

personally..i like Super street

JEdubz

no my parents didnt have the 240 laying around and decided to give it to me..nor did i got one cuz of the influnce of somebody else..or that Initial D..i didnt even know about Initial D till after i got the money..and i still didnt like it..i feel for my car becuz of its looks..the s14a and s15..when i saw it for the first time..i knew i had to get my hands on it..and it was stock 240sx that i saw..of coruse i wanted a s14a..but couldnt find any..so i got with the s14..and yes i do appreciate the car very much..i fell for it..and after that..i did extensive research..to find out more on the car..and yea..now that i have one [s14]..im damn happy..and i juss didnt beg my parents go to out and buy one for me..i told them..yea..a s14 is wat i wanted..of coruse they called me crazy..cu zthey didnt know wtf i was talkin about..but later i told them..i wanted a 240..and my dad being a mechanic..knew wat i was talkin about..they put it all up to me..i had to find the car..and everything..i paid 2/3 of the car myself..and my parents paid the othet 1/3...the only paid becuz..at the time..somebody else wanted one..and i didtn have enough..so they had to pitch in..so yea..i love my car to death..and i appreciate it for wat it really is..and no..im not into drifting..im not dissin you or tryin to flame..im juss saying..i didnt jump on the bandwagon..its more of my friends that are doing that

xero

well..to me..i think TE-37s are even more played than super advan SA-3s...juss becuz u saw it like 3 times..in a couple of mags..doesnt mean its played..do u have the money to buy it..being its worth about 2.5 or more [from a site i saw]..TE-37s u see everywhere..and remember..those 3 dont live in the same area..its world wide..so its not played..i see TE-37s all over the place..so i dont think the SA-3 is played at all..mayb in japan..but i still see jap ppl getting them..those the rims im plannin on getting..and they arent ugly..they are the best looking 3 spoke out there IMO

[SprungScorp]

Super Street is funny as hell...those captions are the best &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[Sniper-X]

Well you can include me in the 10% that didn't get my 240 because of someone else because I've always been a Nissan guy and I could have cared less if one of my friends had a 240. &nbsp;And seeing how this "fad" is coming along, you have to also remember that I'm sure at one point somebody was saying something like "These people modifying hondas is just a passing fad. &nbsp;It'll pass in time." You can never tell which ones will just stick around for a LONG time and what can happen to the image in that time.

[DrDubbleB]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (graphikg04 @ July 19 2002,1:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You know what I think? I think its just a business thing. Super Street doesnt care whether they stole material from other places. All they want to get is money.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Gee...did you figure that all out on your own? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

I used to buy car magazines, but then I found found out (after buying a few) that they are utterly pointless. &nbsp;I don't like any of them, they will sell out for the pettiest shit, I don't buy anything but motorcycle magazines anymore...and usually I don't like them either.

There's nothing you can do, just let them do their things, ignore it, and maybe it will go away.

[sil80]

I like SCC.. I just got septembers issue and boy is the awd supercars artical kick ass...
qoute - Let me reiterate, just in case you didnt get that. The tires are spinning. The car is in third gear. All-wheel drive. Thats four tires spinning. Just wanted to be perfectly clear on that point. - End quote... he was driving a bozz speed evo *drool*
another quote - apexing late, its hammer down the capacitor kicks in, and all three lancers are gone at once. looking in the mirror, I half expect to see two flaming tire tracks, and maybe christoper llyods dog, einstein. - end quote
That is why I like SCC.... detail and imagination... makes me want to get awd car and go nuts... the artical only gets better by the way.
Super beats.. i mean super street just cannot compete with that.

[Danio]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JEdubz @ July 20 2002,05:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's not like your parents just had the car in the garage and decided to give it to you.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Actually that's exactly what happened in my case, except the car was parked outside and not in the garage. :P But yeah, I see what you're saying. I heard at least four friends/aquaintences say that they want a 240SX, but the main reason is that it's an affordable RWD car. Why exactly do they want RWD? I don't know. But I doubt that many people who get 240SXs because of what they've heard about drifting and whatnot will actually try and be serious about that stuff. Maybe they'll do it a couple times and find that it's not for them.

I don't think drifting or touge runs will ever become mainstream though. Even if MTV airs that touge stuff and Initial D gets dubbed in English, these activities are generally done in very secluded areas where most people don't know it's happening. There aren't many mountain roads, at least not around here, where a lot of people can actually sit on the side and watch while others do their runs. It's not like the ricer import scene where they grab attention in public areas where even people who don't care about cars notice them, or illegal drag racing where there's plenty of room for spectators.

http://www.danzeth.com/studio/galleries/images/photos/20020718%20013_480.jpg

Touge and drifting'll probably become more popular and stupid people will probably be crashing here 'n there in mountains because they don't know how to drive. (See pic.) But hey, police can't waste their resources patrolling every mountain road at all times. Just avoid the popular spots and hope that the fad dies out.

So yeah... Back to 240SXs becoming a fad... :P I don't care. Maybe we'll start seeing more lowered 240SXs with loud exhausts and even neon lights -_-; but they'll just be posers. If they can't drive, nobody's impressed. If they do start flooding a certain mountain road, I'll just go to a different one.

[xero]

personnaly, I don't like the TE-37's much either, they look better than the SA-3's, but that is MY OPINION. &nbsp;Don't listen to me, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. &nbsp;Really, if I could I afford them, I want the NISMO GT-3's, but the tires would be too small on my S13, plus the 5-lug conversion, and the price of the wheels. &nbsp;I think they're 500-600 a piece. &nbsp;ouch,

[Apparition]

damn, I hope this isn't a fad. I kinda liked being the only 240 s13 coupe within a 200km radius.

[Rikadyn]

i pick up a car magazine like once every 6 months, then it is normally for pictures or something to read on the toilet...I knew about the 240 and drifting years ago...This was before i even got a computer... Only recently have i gotten my 240... and I don't really car if some idiot in a Honda crashes while trying to imitate Initial D...its not like the practice was legal in most areas anyway...So what...we will now have to go through what some of the people who actually do good tuning on Hondas have to go through...with a bunch of idiots making it look bad for us...If we are lucky...they will do SR swaps and total their car...and we can get ourselves some SRs from Junkyards at reduced costs <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[rotaryknight]

FYI- &nbsp;There has always been alot of talk about content as far as Super Street goes...personally the articles are very light hearted and make for fun reading. &nbsp;Some of the Tech articles are good too...

BUT business is business and they do cater to what sells....if you notice out of all the magazines out there SS has the most advertisments in it. &nbsp;Bottom line it is the strongest mag out there. &nbsp;Not only does it have the highest readership and circulation it has the most advertising appeal.

When it came to articles and pictures most of my sponsors were concerned about my FD being in SS. &nbsp;Why? &nbsp;Because it had the highest readership.

[nrcooled]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's not like your parents just had the car in the garage and decided to give it to you</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Actually it was my sister's and I fell in love w/ it when I got to drive it for a while <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>

As far as the SS/SCC debate goes I subscribe to both and prefer SCC because its less BS and more tech. &nbsp;And &nbsp;to Dr D the best Motorcycle mag out is SuperBike the british rag. &nbsp;Best articles on bikes and a free nudie pic in every issue ::at least one:: <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[MikeFD3S]

hey nothing wrong with SA3r's &nbsp;although I like Super Advan Gen II's better... they are far from being played out like TE-37's, and C-5s

I havent read any car mags in a really long time *shrug*

[KiDyNomiTe]

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I say buy whatever you want, both magazines have BS, both companies are trying to make money with advertisements and selling thier mags, either way you get good pics, except in Import Tuner <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'> some of those cars are nasty <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> . Super Street is cheap, SCC is not, I won't say which I like better but they are both good mags, both provide good reading material when I am on the shitter <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

P.S. Sorry if all the colors and big font annoy you, juss wanted to see if al that crap worked on the boards, and I am working on my html.</FONT>

[Griffon2k]

You know I actually like Super Street. You get a look at some cars, a taste of the big shows, and installs. Something else I really like is that the writers get to say pretty much whatever the hell they want. It is like talking to your boys. Sure the women are necessarily needed, but what the hell they're women, I don't mind seeing a lil bit of t&a every now and then....

And about all the press the 240 is getting now....I don't mind it. I am not the only man in the world with a 240sx, and if I never saw anyone else with it, I probably would never have gotten one, because I wouldn't know anything about it. All the bitching I heard about the 240 in F&F seemed a lot like overreacting. I think the 240 should be recognized, hell I was pissed off that they didn't race the R33 that was in the movie (it probably could have waxed damn near anything there). But like I said, there is nothing wrong with the 240 getting a lil attention. It's been over a year since the movie came out, and I haven't noticed a shitload of people driving 240's because of it. For the most part, the only thing I saw result from the movie was people putting the Supra graphics on just about anything. I saw a Gen I Eclipse with those same graphics the other day. That is the kind of thing that bothers me.

There may be other people with 240sx's out there, but none will ever be like the Griffon Custom.... watch and see

[KiDyNomiTe]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Griffon2k @ July 22 2002,01:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hell I was pissed off that they didn't race the R33 that was in the movie (it probably could have waxed damn near anything there).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Actually over on FA the guy from Motorex said the R33 was probably the fastest car there w/o the nitrous.

And about 240s, there arent that many 240s around, but I have already seen some riced out ones in shows, they are always hidden and nobody ever takes pics of em, but they are there.