2008 sti and evo redesign discuss

[tacotacotaco]

WRX
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/13/spied-2008-subaru-wrx-hatchback/
http://www.hondahookup.com/gallery/files/1/1/0/9/8/2008sti1.jpg

EVO
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/sedans/mitsubushi-prototype-x/

Im really feelin the wrx hatch.

Opinions
Specs

Discuss

[corey240]

the wrx is hot, that evo is just too boxy. nice but not quit right.

[exitspeed]

Impreza is much better, but don't count on seeing that hatch here. I still don't like the "nose" shape that extends from the center of the grill up over the hood.

The Evo X concept is still a concept. Officialt pics of the actual Evo have not been released yet. Though the Lanser has.

[LB.Motoring]

Impreza hatch = Subaru Sex

New Evo(well the concept that is) = Subaru Legacy.

Dont believe me :keke:
http://www.motorauthority.com//gallery/mitsubishi/lancer/evo/30-prototype-x-action.jpg
http://arabam.milliyet.com.tr/fuar/2004/cenevre/subaru_legacy30.jpg

haha jk, its just weird. Now adays...... I dont see any real fresh ideas... maybe im getting old :keke:

[NervGS]

Impreza looks too much like a European car.

Front reminds me of a Prius.

http://www.westcoasttoyota.com/images/prius.jpg

I don't like.

-glenn

[SimpleS14]

At first I thought the Evo was hot given that the Concept X is just a thinly disguised version of the production car.....but if the STi looks anything that p-chop I'd go with that instead.

However, everything really does depend on the final specs, design and a Best Motoring comparison. :)

[idiot goes sideways]

HOT? maybe without these two total unecessary doors,
whats the point of this fucking four doors on "sports" cars latly?


where are the good old times,
buying cars in a sportly two door manner?................

maybe thats why i drive an "lowly" s13:fawk:

[exitspeed]

Impreza looks too much like a European car.


And that's why we won't get it here. Reminds people too much of a Euro car.

[tacotacotaco]

Lol i used to be all for the 2 door coupes but as of lately a sporty 4 door is more in my view. Having 2 s13's another 2 door coupe is kinda pointless. Also for insurance reasons and practicality a 4 door is more appealing to later 20 year olds. A sporty 4 door is a more practical option at my age where time for just driving around is monopolized by time at work and school and the need for a vehicle that is more comfortable and not limited by a 2 seat arraingment. PS a 240 will not fit 2 grown adults comfortably let alone older/ more professional persons.

A sporty functional car vs a sport car.

[blitz240a]

HOT? maybe without these two total unecessary doors,
whats the point of this fucking four doors on "sports" cars latly?


where are the good old times,
buying cars in a sportly two door manner?................

maybe thats why i drive an "lowly" s13:fawk:

Some cars actually still look good with four doors, as over the top you may think that to be. :jerkit: And why not four doors, it's just way easier and if it still looks good who gives a shit. And on a side note, my WRX, even when stock, is way "sportier" than alot of other two-door cars that can be had, and yes, even more than your S13. (considering it is not heavily modded)

[wootwoot]

Mitsubishi needs to step up into what is going to be the next market competition. The 5 door hatch wars. All they would need to do is throw in the 4g63 fwd or whatever its replacement is going to be and boom, they are in the running big time.
Evo/STI, it doesnt really matter what they look like. Its the other features that are important. They both need to get those damn curb weights down though!!!!

[exitspeed]

Mitsubishi needs to step up into what is going to be the next market competition. The 5 door hatch wars. All they would need to do is through in the 4g63 fwd or whatever its replacement is going to be and boom, they are in the running big time.
Evo/STI, it doesnt really matter what they look like. Its the other features that are important. They both need to get those damn curb weights down though!!!!

The new Evo, dispite being larger is only supposed to increase in weight by a few pounds. Still not going in the right direction, but at least it's not too much in the wrong direction.

Oh and the MS3 is still gonna be the best bang for your buck in the 5 door htach segment.

[s13poop]

Lol i used to be all for the 2 door coupes but as of lately a sporty 4 door is more in my view. Having 2 s13's another 2 door coupe is kinda pointless. Also for insurance reasons and practicality a 4 door is more appealing to later 20 year olds. A sporty 4 door is a more practical option at my age where time for just driving around is monopolized by time at work and school and the need for a vehicle that is more comfortable and not limited by a 2 seat arraingment. PS a 240 will not fit 2 grown adults comfortably let alone older/ more professional persons.

A sporty functional car vs a sport car.


:werd: on that

school and work make 2drs less appealing at times :-/

i really wouldn't mind having a 330hp subie wrx hatch :D

as far as the evo...

no thanks....

[LB.Motoring]

Mitsubishi needs to step up into what is going to be the next market competition. The 5 door hatch wars. All they would need to do is throw in the 4g63 fwd or whatever its replacement is going to be and boom, they are in the running big time.
Evo/STI, it doesnt really matter what they look like. Its the other features that are important. They both need to get those damn curb weights down though!!!!


Mitsubishi is going under.

[Yuri]

Functionality sucks.
I'm selling my evo. I love it, but it comes with too many strings attached, mainly being able to give people rides, and stuff like usable storage space.
I would daily drive a Caterham Super 7 if I felt like spending that much money on a car again.
I'd never have to give rides to 4 people again.

I'll be daily driving my Supra, then eventually get a Jaguar XK8. those cars are sexy+luxurious, and it would blow people's minds to see one at a Justdrift event.

[VROOOM]

i saw an Evo X last night on katella in anaheim going to the ducks game last night. it looked exactly like those pictures. same color and everything, had dealer plates on it. it actually looked pretty good in person. i would have taken pictures but it was way too dark.

[ManoNegra]

Subaru Hatch may make me break my no-new-car policy... am I wrong or haven't they always been 4 doors (WRXs and STIs I mean)?

[Yuri]

There's been WRX wagons.

[exitspeed]

i saw an Evo X last night on katella in anaheim going to the ducks game last night. it looked exactly like those pictures. same color and everything, had dealer plates on it. it actually looked pretty good in person. i would have taken pictures but it was way too dark.

The car is not out yet. Evo production is skipping a year before the X comes out. The only way you saw a X is if it was the concept car. And I know for a fact that it's sitting next to the new Lanser at the Detroit auto show.

Sorry to burst your bubble.


And I'm in the same boat as Yuri. I have a Camry...I want something completely not practical.

[wootwoot]

Thats what I'm looking for right now. Ive got 10k. Bring it on. If only I wasnt a damn student I could get a Mazda Speed3 or wait out on that WRX 5doorer

[VROOOM]

actually i was behind it for more than 5 blocks and it was that car same color and everyhting, it had dealer plates, and was a few miles away from mitsubishi's US headquarters.

my thread from last night
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=130892

[zenki-217]

I like the subi . I think the evo is ugly as hell.

[OWTKAST cpt]

I would pass on the evo.. the aftermarket im sure will tackle the front end and cure the ugliness that i personally feel.

The WRX hatch lookd amazing, it cought my eye first thing... (then again it was the first pciture) lol....

Its going to be interesting to see if the WRX gains a following and the Evo loses a little, but i doubt that happens.

[CKAMC]

Yeah the hatch isnt doing it for me. The evo does look more appealing now.

[JewGal]

http://jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/01/suzwrc.jpg
http://jalopnik.com/cars/news/superduper-hoonage-potential-suzuki-to-take-on-wrx--evo-229085.php

[LB.Motoring]

yeah, but the states will never see that.

this is about production cars...

[JewGal]

A girl can wish.

[LB.Motoring]

yah me too...

I love pink.

anyways.

Evos, seem so much.. I donno... they just feel less rugged than the wrx..

and it seems they are continuing that here, the evo is (evolving) into a more of a car ez goes it, and the suby is bringing more of its crazy roots out...

If i had the choice. wrx.

[Yuri]

The car is not out yet. Evo production is skipping a year before the X comes out. The only way you saw a X is if it was the concept car. And I know for a fact that it's sitting next to the new Lanser at the Detroit auto show.

Sorry to burst your bubble.


Chances are it was a final pre-production test mule, or maybe even an early press car.
With Mitsubishi getting ready with the X, there will be test mules and preproduction press cars wandering around all over SoCal.

[CKAMC]

yah me too...

I love pink.

and my signature just goes so well with LB's last post

:keke:

[s13speeddrft]

The Subaru actually looks kind of like an older clio rally car design..more like a euro design and the evo concept actually doesnt look too bad imo but i do not like the interior of it.

[Wei240]

yeah, i don't doubt you can see the evo X pre production off of katella,

their north american HQ is right there, finance/mktg/sales/r&d...

not sure if i like either...

[BOROSUN]

wow badass, never thought subaru would make one.

joining cars like focus and 406

[tacotacotaco]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h33/jasonmillward/CA330001-1-1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h33/jasonmillward/CA330004-1-1.jpg
some pics of the sedan

[wootwoot]

The sx4 looks pretty bad ass all slammed. They only cost 16k new and come with awd, 160hp and 145 lb feet. Now they need to make a badass turbo model or something for like 20g's and life will be good. Suzuki needs to step it up. Being in F1 then having this line of cars is embarassing.

[bboyt3nsk]

Functionality sucks.
I would daily drive a Caterham Super 7 if I felt like spending that much money on a car again.

.

YES! I like your thinking, and your taste in cars,sir!t

I dont mind the new evo design if it was put out tomorrow. The Sti I like though.

[WILDACEX187]

wow that hatch looks amazing!!!

[HyperTek]

dam i like.. looks more like it was designed for ROAD in mind, besides how the others where more versatile..

I wish Ford would release the Focus RS Cosworth
http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/ford/focus-cosworth-3m.jpg

[WILDACEX187]

dam i like.. looks more like it was designed for ROAD in mind, besides how the others where more versatile..

I wish Ford would release the Focus RS Cosworth
http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/ford/focus-cosworth-3m.jpg

hehe good luck. i dont even think ford makes focuses anymore, if they do i dont see them around

[CKAMC]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h33/jasonmillward/CA330001-1-1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h33/jasonmillward/CA330004-1-1.jpg
some pics of the sedan

now it looks like an eclipse..... :hahano: :bite:

[Daniel.]

EVO IX < EVO X
http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/7619/evomay06037qq.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6769/evomay06053jc.jpg

[0100]

EVO IX < EVO X


:keke: I think you mean > lol

Anyways nice evo 9!

[WILDACEX187]

evo 9 8 and 7 look too much alike. i love the evo 5 which is my favorite

[Daniel.]

:keke: I think you mean > lol

Anyways nice evo 9!

Corrected.

ojsdbigoehrgo'w

[articdragon192]

Id love a 2 door Subie hatch 307 status.

[exitspeed]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h33/jasonmillward/CA330001-1-1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h33/jasonmillward/CA330004-1-1.jpg
some pics of the sedan

That grill has been 100% axed by Subie. That must be an older PS rendition before they made the announcement. The Tibeca will also get a facelift. Or nose job I guess you can say.

[EDacIouSX]

new sti looks the s3x.

[exitspeed]

new sti looks the s3x.

:ugh:

Yea...I mean it does have wheels and windows. I can kinda see where your coming from.
:ugh:

[wootwoot]

America never did liek Alfa Romeos.

[exitspeed]

America never did liek Alfa Romeos.

Apperantly neither did the Japanese. That designer was "let go".

I've never liked Alfa's. However the 8C Competizione is one of the most gorgous cars ever designed IMO. The production car should be called the Alfa Romeo Sexual Chocolate. SEXUAL CHOCOLATE!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/randywatson.jpg

[MELLO*SOS]

double post, I fail.

[wootwoot]

hahahah. Any reference to Coming to America makes my day tons better. One thing Ford is really fucking up is not having a performance Focus. They allready share the platforms so heavily with Mazda that Ford SHOULD release a turbo 2 door Focus. Maybe even in awd or if not shit. They could detune the MazdaSpeed3's motor considerably and throw it in there for cheap since it is very highly produced or add the AWD and make it a badass fuckin rowdy car and then offer it in a 5 door to differentiate it between the Speed3. If they placed it a little under 30 and used the setup from the Speed6 and kept the weight under 3000lbs(which I'm SURE they can do) then it would be hot shit. Let Mazda tune the suspension as well to make it a true bruiser. There are not sporty hatchbacks out right now beside the GTi and I stay far away from VW. With the release of that WRX it would give them some good competition to boot. Between the Subaru and a badass Focus I know I would take the Focus...

Why arent companies hiring me!?

[MELLO*SOS]

haha.. Holy shit. That evo is ridiculously ugly. I guess the large front bumper opening is nice for radiator/FMIC cooling, but it looks atrocious. Man that's fucking terrible.

WRX is alright... More "new edge" styling, it reminds me of a focus or civic hatch. Not really a good thing, but it's still way cleaner than the EVO.

I think >=90% of all new vehicles designs suck. Doesn't matter if you buy em or not, they'll keep producing garbage designed to keep mom & the kids safe on their daily "adventures" to and from the school, supermarket, porn shoot while husband at work, etc.

[exitspeed]

^
Did you see the new Focus? It's a coupe. Not bad. Much better then the outgoing model. Still not nice looking though like the Civic, or 3.

[wootwoot]

I want to be safe on my daily drive/commute, get 30mpg using premium on the highway going 75 with the a/c on, pay less then 30k, run mid 13's, and handle amazingly. The time will come soon. We dont all need sports cars, just really fun street cars =D

[drifts135]

http://www.hondahookup.com/gallery/files/1/1/0/9/8/2008sti1.jpg
http://www.autoreview.ru/new_site/year2003/n08/news/800/Ford-Focus-RS-WRC-03.jpg

[exitspeed]

^
Is there a point to that picture?

[idiot goes sideways]

actualy ford built and SOLD a 2 litre turbo focus (if i`m correct informed its the even the wrc engine) whats called "ford focus RS" , at least here in europe:D

the problem is thats a FWD!!!!:barf:


ford cosworth are well known for fast fr and 4wd here in europe (and easy tuned)

[idiot goes sideways]

oh forgot, we got a 5 cyl. turbo fwd focus also (focus st) but its damn heavy at the front and far not so agile as the rs (rs= damn good suspension........for a fwd)

[exitspeed]

actualy ford built and SOLD a 2 litre turbo focus (if i`m correct informed its the even the wrc engine) whats called "ford focus RS" , at least here in europe:D

the problem is thats a FWD!!!!:barf:


ford cosworth are well known for fast fr and 4wd here in europe (and easy tuned)

Your correct. We did not get that model what so ever. We got a weak ass SVT. :keke:

[EDacIouSX]

:ugh:

Yea...I mean it does have wheels and windows. I can kinda see where your coming from.
:ugh:
yea the stock one is ugly... but the pic in the first post i think is hostness!

[chr0nik_sm0k3]

i think they both look like ass

[RiversideS13]

my friend showed me this picture, i dont know if it is legit or not

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1003/2008subaruimprezaam2verjw7.jpg

[Dutchmalmiss]

^^ looks too much like the current legacy, but shorter.

[exitspeed]

my friend showed me this picture, i dont know if it is legit or not

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1003/2008subaruimprezaam2verjw7.jpg

Looks like a Legacy and a Protege Wagon.

[vanish1]

lol, no one else heard that theyre making a STI legacy?
http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/legacytunedbysti/catalog/exterior/imgs/top.jpg
http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/legacytunedbysti/catalog/exterior/01/imgs/top.jpg
http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/legacytunedbysti/catalog/interior/imgs/top.jpg
http://images2.carview.co.jp/news/car/images/img4_20060808_153728_2_l.jpg
http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/legacytunedbysti/imgs/top.jpg

[exitspeed]

^
I heard...but we probably won't see it here so I didn't mention it.

[WILDACEX187]

yea we wont get that car here. we barely got the b-spec

[articdragon192]

STi Legacy = pimp.

[Mtndrifter14]

i love that sti but the evo is gay

[Wei240]

i concur, i like that legacy > wrx

[Unholy S14]

Im REALLY diggin the first STI pic

[axiomatik]

HOT? maybe without these two total unecessary doors,
whats the point of this fucking four doors on "sports" cars latly?
.......

screw that, I already have a sporty 2-door. I want a 4 (or 5) door that won't bore me to tears when I drive it.



http://jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/01/suzwrc.jpg
http://jalopnik.com/cars/news/superd...evo-229085.php
they are already selling the SX4 here, they really should make a hot version to raise their brand awareness. I bet most americans don't even know Suzuki makes cars.


hehe good luck. i dont even think ford makes focuses anymore, if they do i dont see them around
Ford was really stupid with the Focus (yes, they still make them). The rest of the world got a brand new focus, we got new headlights on the old car. Now the focus is irrelevant in the US because they've been selling the same damn car for what, 7 years now? Who wants to buy the same car 8 million other people already have. Plus, they need to give us the hot versions they sell in europe. The SVT went in the right direction, but it wasn't enough.


yea we wont get that car here. we barely got the b-spec
I read recently that the b-spec did much better here than Subaru expected, and now will become a regular production model (instead of the 500 unit limited run it originally was). I would think that this improves our chance of getting an STI version considerably.

[exitspeed]

they are already selling the SX4 here, they really should make a hot version to raise their brand awareness. I bet most americans don't even know Suzuki makes cars.

Agree'd.



Ford was really stupid with the Focus (yes, they still make them). The rest of the world got a brand new focus, we got new headlights on the old car. Now the focus is irrelevant in the US because they've been selling the same damn car for what, 7 years now? Who wants to buy the same car 8 million other people already have. Plus, they need to give us the hot versions they sell in europe. The SVT went in the right direction, but it wasn't enough.


The new Focus made it's debut in Detroit 2 weeks ago. Here's the onyl pic I could find Online. I took some pics of it when i was there a couple weeks ago. I'll post'em up later.
http://www.duemotori.com/racingnews/autoimg_queue/9765.jpg

[SimpleS14]

The new Focus made it's debut in Detroit 2 weeks ago. Here's the onyl pic I could find Online. I took some pics of it when i was there a couple weeks ago. I'll post'em up later.
http://www.duemotori.com/racingnews/autoimg_queue/9765.jpg


It's the same platform as the previous model, just exterior, powertrain and interior differences....similar process to that of the 'fox' platform used on the Mustang that lasted a long time.

The one they sell overseas shares the same platform with the Mazda 3 and Volvo S40. I think its a much better car then what is coming out in the states...and has much better variants.

[exitspeed]

It's the same platform as the previous model, just exterior, powertrain and interior differences....similar process to that of the 'fox' platform used on the Mustang that lasted a long time.

The one they sell overseas shares the same platform with the Mazda 3 and Volvo S40. I think its a much better car then what is coming out in the states...and has much better variants.

That is true, but still techinally a "new generation".

[axiomatik]

but it's still warmed over leftovers compared to the freshness the rest of the world (even frickin china) is getting. plus, it looks like a design saturn threw away 5 years ago. ugh. Is ford trying to kill itself? why haven't they put their hybrid powertrain in any other cars? idiots.

[wootwoot]

To heck with Hybrid. In Europe they offer the Focus with a turbo diesel. I would kill for that.

[exitspeed]

Is ford trying to kill itself? why haven't they put their hybrid powertrain in any other cars? idiots.

But they have AWD now...:aw: :-/

[illvialuver]

the wrx reminds me of a renault, or somethign , and the evo looks like the current one mixed with the suby legacy, but whatever if i want all wheel drive ill get a skyline or an audi s4 (the one with bi turbos not the v8 crap)

[0100]

they are already selling the SX4 here, they really should make a hot version to raise their brand awareness. I bet most americans don't even know Suzuki makes cars.




Suzuki is making a HUGE mistake if they don't sell the sx4 WRC version in the states. A cheap lightweight turbo AWD hatch. Fuck it makes too much sense and that's why it won't happen. :-/ suzuki :loco:

[SimpleS14]

Suzuki is making a HUGE mistake if they don't sell the sx4 WRC version in the states. A cheap lightweight turbo AWD hatch. Fuck it makes too much sense and that's why it won't happen. :-/ suzuki :loco:

Probably cost...it might cost too much that people are willing to pay for a Suzuki.

[wootwoot]

The sx4 itself has 160hp and awd. Not shabby for what it is. 16k I think?

[SimpleS14]

The sx4 itself has 160hp and awd. Not shabby for what it is. 16k I think?


Really? hmm....I wonder what the potential that car can posses.

[Neejay]

Car wise, Suzuki is a decent brand? Excuse the ignorance, but I really don't know. I know they have good bikes, but I dont have any experience/know anyone with a Suzuki vehicle.

[0100]

I have never owned a suzuki car or bike but like most japanese things, I would think suzuki is pretty good quality.

The suzuki sports division is no joke that is for sure. The Suzuki Grand Vitara hillclimb machine, with the 940 horsepower twin-turbo V6 engine is insane.

Oh and Nobuhiro "Monster" Tajima is the man!!!

http://www.suzukisport.com/

http://www.suzukisport.com/motorsport/hillclimb/06/pikespeak/index.html

[Baka Sama]

The sx4 itself has 160hp and awd. Not shabby for what it is. 16k I think?

143 hp, 136 lbs.trq
If they produced a FI version I would be all over it

[Unholy S14]

^
I heard...but we probably won't see it here so I didn't mention it.


not just heard, it already exists.

Subaru has almost the STI package on ever car over seas.

we only got the impreza

[Unholy S14]

I also read the reason Subaru is going Hatch is due to WRC.

hatches pwn in the WRC

[BOROSUN]

i first learned to drive stick in a suzuki swift. ahh memories, berry nimble car.

[wootwoot]

Any reason you can think of hatches having a benefit? I would imagine it adding to the CG and whatnot

[SimpleS14]

Any reason you can think of hatches having a benefit? I would imagine it adding to the CG and whatnot

Aerodynamics maybe?

[BOROSUN]

i read this http://www.worldrallychampionship.net/features/index.php?id_display=19

Bodyshell
The new Ford Focus RS WRC 06 is based on the Focus ST road car. It is larger than its predecessor, presenting engineers with the challenge of keeping overall weight increase to a minimum. In addition, the new car's width is 1800mm, the precise maximum specified under World Rally Car regulations.

"We liaised closely with Ford TeamRS on the shell," said Loriaux. "We used the ADAMS software model to help with our initial design and that allowed us to experiment with the car's layout and see how changes to one specific component might affect the other parts. We also worked hard on the aerodynamic side, because the new car has a larger frontal area. We tried to compensate for this as much as possible and to reduce drag on faster sections. On the other hand, the more steeply-sloped rear hatch of the new car plays back into our hands, in terms of making the rear wing more efficient."

[exitspeed]

To add some more fuel to the fire:


Autocar is reporting that Subaru will volly a strike against Mitsubishi in early April when it debuts the all-new Impreza at the New York Auto Show. The body style will be a five-door hatchback with styling similar to that of the B5 TPH concept that first appeared last year in Tokyo. Power will reportedly come from your choice of a 1.5L or 2.0L flat-four boxer engine. Autocar's shocker is that the popular WRX model that slots between the everyday Imprezas and the high performance STi model will be cancelled, and that we won't see the new STi until 2008. Autocar doesn't cite its source for this information, and it seems highly unlikely to us considering that Mitsubishi is planning to make its Lancer Ralliart more powerful than previous generations in an effort to face the WRX head on. All will be revealed in the Big Apple come April, but for now we sit and wait.

[Neejay]

To add some more fuel to the fire:


Autocar is reporting that Subaru will volly a strike against Mitsubishi in early April when it debuts the all-new Impreza at the New York Auto Show. The body style will be a five-door hatchback with styling similar to that of the B5 TPH concept that first appeared last year in Tokyo. Power will reportedly come from your choice of a 1.5L or 2.0L flat-four boxer engine. Autocar's shocker is that the popular WRX model that slots between the everyday Imprezas and the high performance STi model will be cancelled, and that we won't see the new STi until 2008. Autocar doesn't cite its source for this information, and it seems highly unlikely to us considering that Mitsubishi is planning to make its Lancer Ralliart more powerful than previous generations in an effort to face the WRX head on. All will be revealed in the Big Apple come April, but for now we sit and wait.
Wait wait wait...

So they're saying according to their source, the WRX will be cancelled? And there will only be a 1.5L RS and a 2.0L RS with the new STi debuting in 2008?

I highly doubt that...that'd be a stupid move on Subaru's part in my opinion...

[WILDACEX187]

thats bs. the wrx sells alot more than the sti anyway and as the article said, mitsu is making a turbo awd lacer under the evo. i'll be sure to go to the auto show and check it out

[exitspeed]

Both Autoblog and Autocar are relyable sources. We'll have to wait and see huh? Interesting...

Oh and here's the concept that it is to be styled after.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/contentImages/Car/Subaru/Impreza/191055124312.jpg
http://www.autocar.co.uk/contentImages/Car/Subaru/1910555380.jpg
http://www.autocar.co.uk/contentImages/Car/Subaru/1910555442.jpg
http://www.autocar.co.uk/contentImages/Car/Subaru/1910555430.jpg

[fohahz]

damn that subie hatch looks really nice

[axiomatik]

really??? i think it looks cheap and ugly.

[WILDACEX187]

well i hope its cheap (in price) but its nice looking to me (one on first page of course)

[VROOOM]

that subaru concept is disgusting.

[NemeGuero]

I like the WRX hatch.. looks rally like the Peugot 206.

the new EVO looks like a Mazda 6 and an early 90's dodge neon had sex.

[SimpleS14]

Damn that concept car is ugly. Here is a prototype of the Subie: http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots_and_Future_Cars/2008_Subaru_WRX_Spy_Shots.S178.A11818.html

[hendogg8]

my friend showed me this picture, i dont know if it is legit or not

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1003/2008subaruimprezaam2verjw7.jpg

That looks really, really close to the pics of the impreza in the spy shots in the link above^^^

I wouldn't be surprised if that pic is indeed legit. The new design looks more tame and generic.

[Revolver Ocelot]

evo 9 8 and 7 look too much alike. i love the evo 5 which is my favorite

Of course they look the same. Just like the Evo 1,2 and 3 pretty much looked the same and the evo 4,5 and 6 basically were the same looks wise.

I think both concepts are ugly IMHO. I just havent been able to find a new design that i actually like from any car manufacture lately. :(

And if subaru kills the WRX line in America it will be one of the stupidest moves they could make. Especially since you see alot more WRXs on the road compared to STIs. And the fact that mitsu is beefing up their ralliart to compete with the WRX.

[hendogg8]

Here is another pic of the possible upcoming WRX that I saw recently.

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/3545/557/1600/541066/subaru1.jpg

[s13gold]

subeeeeeeee.ftw.

[exitspeed]

Quick update from Autoblog.

Everyone thought the rumor that Subaru would be dropping its popular WRX model when it launches a redesigned Impreza was bunk. The rumor originated with an article by Autocar that stated Subaru had "no plans to carry over the intermediate WRX model." Michael McHale, Subaru's Director of Corporate Communications, got in touch with Autoblog to let us know that the WRX is safe and will be present after the relaunch of the redesigned Impreza. Those worrying that the Impreza will only be offered as a five-door hatchback in the future can rest easy, too. Sedan variants will be offered, presumably along with the five-door hatchback we've seen in spy shots. We still expect to see the new Impreza at the New York Auto Show in early April, though it's unclear whether or not Subaru will follow Mitsubishi's lead and introduce only the standard models before trotting out the hotted up WRX and STi variants. We'll be on hand in the Big Apple to let you know from the show floor.

[PoorMans180SX]

Does anyone see the similarities between the Evo X and the Acura TL? I hate that line on the Evo, although the newest "concept" looks better than the first:

http://response.jp/issue/2005/0928/article74738_1.images/95084.jpg

http://www.acura.tl/images/main1.jpg

[Neejay]

Quick update from Autoblog.

Everyone thought the rumor that Subaru would be dropping its popular WRX model when it launches a redesigned Impreza was bunk. The rumor originated with an article by Autocar that stated Subaru had "no plans to carry over the intermediate WRX model." Michael McHale, Subaru's Director of Corporate Communications, got in touch with Autoblog to let us know that the WRX is safe and will be present after the relaunch of the redesigned Impreza. Those worrying that the Impreza will only be offered as a five-door hatchback in the future can rest easy, too. Sedan variants will be offered, presumably along with the five-door hatchback we've seen in spy shots. We still expect to see the new Impreza at the New York Auto Show in early April, though it's unclear whether or not Subaru will follow Mitsubishi's lead and introduce only the standard models before trotting out the hotted up WRX and STi variants. We'll be on hand in the Big Apple to let you know from the show floor.
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Thank you sir!

[exitspeed]

OK here it is. The new WRX.

Let's discuss.

http://www.taberwest.com/images/wrx003.jpg
http://www.taberwest.com/images/wrx2.jpg
http://www.taberwest.com/images/wrx4.jpg
http://www.taberwest.com/images/wrx4.jpg

[tacotacotaco]

Interesting i dont know how it makes me feel. Looks very spartan on the interior but then again its a base wrx. Anyword if a 2 door was going to be offered?

[exitspeed]

Interesting i dont know how it makes me feel. Looks very spartan on the interior but then again its a base wrx. Anyword if a 2 door was going to be offered?

Nope. This is from Motor Trend magazine and was debuted ahead of schedule. We'll get more details at next months New York Auto Show.

[nlzmo400r]

i dont know if they could have f*k'd that car up anymore than they did

[fromxtor]

I got to see the "lancer" at a local auto show and It didnt impress me. So I have a feeling if the EVO is along the same lines I really wont like it either. I seems way too big.

[s14dude]

Those pix from Motor Trend are 100% Authentic. i have seen the car in person. yes i am one of only 15 people in the world to actually see the car pre-production and pre-release!! so i can vouch for those pictures.

i dont know the specs on it however.

[exitspeed]

Those pix from Motor Trend are 100% Authentic. i have seen the car in person. yes i am one of only 15 people in the world to actually see the car pre-production and pre-release!! so i can vouch for those pictures.

i dont know the specs on it however.

Did you by chance tell them how ugly it was?

[SimpleS14]

I think it would look nice if they did something with the grille and front bumper.

STi might look better.....maybe

[axiomatik]

wow that is ugly, what a disappointment. the grill is horrific an the back end reminds me of the daewoo hatchback they sold for a while, forget what it was called. or maybe a lexus rx330, which also looks like crap.

[Frosty_spl]

yea its such a letdown, so watered down and crappy.:mad: I like my subarus to have a "nose", made them distinctly awesome.

EVOX FTW!!!! That car is dope!

[articdragon192]

That looks really porky. I really liked the slimmed down look of the GC8. Oh wells...

[95zilvia]

rear end looks like shit,
they fucked that car up bad
now it's a stupid station wagon.

reminds me of my dads old ass nissan maxima station wagon

[vanish1]

I think the front end is actually pretty good looking, I like the organic feel of it, reminds me of a better looking MZ3.

although they ruined the rear end, looks like a tribeca from the back

[s14dude]

Actually i spoke in great length with a subaru rep on the new impreza. it looks much better in person. and that center screen is DVD/NAV.


i know a lot of details about the car and what is to come in the future.

Despite people saying initially they dont like the car, there will be a strong following and wil sell many units. There is going to be a lot of tuner companies developing parts for the car and i think it will do very well against the new Evo X.

You're all going to be in for a suprise with the STi......

[exitspeed]

It's official. Here it is folks.

THE SEDAN
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/wrx1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/urlget.jpg


THE HATCH
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/wrx6.jpg

[tacotacotaco]

sedan looks like a corrolla

[s13poop]

^ true...

i can't wait til the STI models come through :bigok:

[SimpleSexy180]

WTFluck is that?!!

[articdragon192]

Looks like an Australian Ford car for some reason. Can't quite put my finger on it.

My fav of them all
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/images/99rs_impreza2.jpg

[Ninjabread]

Excuse me? That new Subie is HIDEOUS. I love the current generation with the eagle eyes and that style grew on me. But this one does make me think of a corolla.

[blackflag_Rms13]

Dear god that's horrid.

[woodchuck]

kia spectra?
chrome grill = chrystler sebring -ish?

well, the one after the "bugeye" looked like a hyundai.

the latest version is still an improvement from the tri-beca version. kinda. :ugh:

[OptionZero]

EVO X eats the Subaru, spits it out, rapes it, then crushes it underfoot (in that order).

For whatever reason, that design just makes the car look taller than it already is.

[exitspeed]

EVO X eats the Subaru, spits it out, rapes it, then crushes it underfoot (in that order).

For whatever reason, that design just makes the car look taller than it already is.

Werd. Subby is gonna loose a lotta sales to Mitsu.

[OptionZero]

Subaru's best efforts have been the current Subaru Legacy GT, a really handsome car IMO.

'04-'05 WRX STi (post bugeye, pre Alfa grill) is a good Subaru design, but the best I can really say is that it's "not ugly"...although for Subaru that's an accomplishment.

Oh, and some of the pre-bugeye Imprezas were truly badass, if a little...crude.

As I understand it, the Legacy is selling pretty well, too, which makes it even more questionable why they are abandoning that design path for a wierd Alfa + Kia + Daewoo + messy blob look.

I mean, Alfa Romeo does it like this:
http://www.alfaworkshop.co.uk/Final%20image/alfa_romeo_brera_3.jpg

Subaru:
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2006_new_york/0605_2007_subaru_wrx_sti_limited_900.jpg

basically, let's take a beautiful italian design, put it on a taller sedan body, and replace the elegant curves with body flares....

[exitspeed]

The Alfa thing is dead. He was fired from Subaru.

C8 Competizione. The most gorgeous Alfa ever made.

[Ethix]

As a Subaru owner, I feel extremely let down. It looks like a hyundai or a kia or something. Terrible.

[bardabe]

I really like that Legacy STi it's pimp

[OptionZero]

The Alfa thing is dead. He was fired from Subaru.

C8 Competizione. The most gorgeous Alfa ever made.


http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/alfa_8c_competizione_big_07.jpg

+1 for truth

only 500 made sadly, i would have liked one next to my:

http://www.automotoportal.com/media/images/vijesti/060414003.jpg

[ronmcdon]

Subaru's best efforts have been the current Subaru Legacy GT, a really handsome car IMO.

'04-'05 WRX STi (post bugeye, pre Alfa grill) is a good Subaru design, but the best I can really say is that it's "not ugly"...although for Subaru that's an accomplishment.

Oh, and some of the pre-bugeye Imprezas were truly badass, if a little...crude.

As I understand it, the Legacy is selling pretty well, too, which makes it even more questionable why they are abandoning that design path for a wierd Alfa + Kia + Daewoo + messy blob look.

basically, let's take a beautiful italian design, put it on a taller sedan body, and replace the elegant curves with body flares....

the alpha nose WRX (06-07) really wasnt that bad imo. it's no alpha romeo, but i felt subrau was gradually improving, and moving towards a better direction. the designs were also becoming more aggressive from the bug eye, to the blob eye, to the alpha look which is think is a good think for the WRX. the nose is prob the only thing that doesn't work, but the rest of the car (esp the headlights) is generally attractive imo.

As far as the current aplha romeo lineup, its arguably the best looking commercial car manufacturer lineup period imo. even the interiors on econobox models are masterpieces. they've really come a very long way, and its difficult for almost anyone to measure up to them, much less subaru.

the legacy is a good looking car i agree. it was a shame subaru did not borrow more from that design. something along the lines of a more stout, compact legacy would at the very least aroused a lot less offense.

[Nachtmensch]

the blue wagon looks like a ford/kia.

[atom]

That is a sweet Mazda 3. Wait...

[exitspeed]

Look how awkward the taillight looks. Ouch is the first thing that comes to my mind. The curve on the bottom the light looks bad and gives the illusion of the body protruding out.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/04/000_ny07_wrxsedan---04.jpg

[OptionZero]

if that were a painting, i'd assume that the painter was taking it in the ass while trying to use the brush.

[ONYX S-13]

LGT is my next car hands down (ever before i saw those pics that are posted)... The new WRX = no go.. As much as a i like wagons i will never get one of those.

As far as that SX4 I'd rock one over that wrx.. Have you seen what comes standard on those thing (info taken from http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2007-suzuki-sx4-2.htm)

________________________________

Engines
dohc I4
Size, liters/cu. in 2.0/120
Horsepower @ rpm 143 @ 5800
Torque (lb-ft) @ rpm 136 @ 3500
Availability Standard
EPA city / highway mpg
5-speed manual 24/29
4-speed automatic 24/30


Standard Equipment
Base
Powertrain
2.0-liter 4-cylinder engine, 5-speed manual or 4-speed automatic transmission, all-wheel drive
Safety
dual front airbags, front side airbags, curtain side airbags, antilock 4-wheel disc brakes, tire-pressure monitor, daytime running lights
Comfort and Convenience Features
air conditioning, power steering, tilt steering wheel, cloth upholstery, front bucket seats, center console, cupholders, split folding rear seat, power mirrors, power windows, power door locks, remote keyless entry, AM/FM/CD/MP3 player, digital clock, intermittent wipers, rear wiper/washer, floormats

Appearance and Miscellaneous
roof rails, 205/60R16 tires, alloy wheels


Sport adds to Base:
Powertrain
traction control

Safety
antiskid system

Comfort and Convenience Features
automatic climate control, leather-wrapped steering wheel w/radio controls, cruise control, heated power mirrors, keyless access and starting, AM/FM radio w/in-dash 6-disc CD/MP3 changer, upgraded sound system

Appearance and Miscellaneous
fog lights




Optional Equipment
Major Packages Retail
Price Invoice
Price
Convenience Pkg.,
Base $300 $288
Leather-wrapped steering wheel w/radio controls, cruise control.


_______________________________

As for that alfa..... I never knew the made a car that looked that good.. Is that one also a FF? Judging from the tires out back i highly doubt it.

[ONYX S-13]

LGT FTW !!!!!

http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/corsa/img/b4_200405.jpg
http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/corsa/img/b4_r_200405.jpg
http://www.gialla.co.jp/gialla/catalog/corsa/img/b4_r_200308.jpg

[Wei240]

new subie = F A I L

the pre bug eye is nice, the bug eye, blob eye are okay, the tribeca is actually nice if you take off the hideous nose with some type of body kit...

this new one just fails miserably, people have called it a bastard child of the mazda 3, impala, sebring, kia... bleh...

the legacy looks nice, wished the impreza went this direction... subie also needs to get rid of the 5X100 and go all 5X114...

[OptionZero]

As for that alfa..... I never knew the made a car that looked that good.. Is that one also a FF? Judging from the tires out back i highly doubt it.

The first red one, the hatchback, is FWD or AWD and really fuckin slow. It's just sex on wheels, as the Top Gear guys say.

The other one, the coupe/roadster is RWD 4.7 V-8 IIRC, 500 made, all sold.

[BC240]

What the hell kinda bloated piece of turd is that. Who designs these things?

[keroto]

the evo look like shit!!!!!

[Wei240]

^^
that may be, but it still trumps this new wack subie

[woodchuck]

^^

i second that.

my wife and i were looking forward to the getting 2k8 wrx but its just too ugly. :(

[ONYX S-13]

The first red one, the hatchback, is FWD or AWD and really fuckin slow. It's just sex on wheels, as the Top Gear guys say.

The other one, the coupe/roadster is RWD 4.7 V-8 IIRC, 500 made, all sold.


I was talking about the roadster.. I love that thing :2f2f: .. The hatch is ok but not "sex"..

that may be, but it still trumps this new wack subie

+3

[keroto]

Looks like an Australian Ford car for some reason. Can't quite put my finger on it.

My fav of them all
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/images/99rs_impreza2.jpg
sam here!!!!!

[kyoru]

i wish subaru would set on a solid design theory for their cars instead of changing it all the time

[Omarius Maximus]

I think subaru caught so much flack for their "out there" designs that they finally gave in and created the corolla wrx. Its funny, when you compare the MKV jetta, corolla, and this abomination, the differences are miniscule.

[Dutchmalmiss]

The current Legacys are SICK either sedan OR wagon! I would also definately rock a Forester STi if they ever brought it here to the states!

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/608/608656/preview-2006-subaru-forester-sti-20050429025755897.jpg

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/608/608656/preview-2006-subaru-forester-sti-20050429025758335.jpg

[Wei240]

yeah, we thought subie was actually getting better designs, especially with the very nice looking legacy, won car of the year award in jdm land, but then somewhere along the line they failed... this is almost as bad as the gotham city holy batman eclipse and i don't even know how to describe the current jelly bean looking crap...

the forrester looks mean

[ONYX S-13]

I never thought I'd see the day when a Forester looks better then a WRX LOL... What's the world coming to...?

I think subaru caught so much flack for their "out there" designs that they finally gave in and created the corolla wrx.

It didn't stop mitsu from making ugly cars.. Their designs are still on a "level" of their own.

I can't name one (stock) car in that line up that puts a smile on my face (not of happiness)

[articdragon192]

Z32 ?

[axiomatik]

blech, foresters are just ugly. an sti version is just putting lipstick on a pig.

[ls180sx]

maybe it would look better with a different grill?
http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/2007_nyias_subaru_impreza_image003.jpg

i want a legacy sti

[ManoNegra]

^ doesn't look too bad from that angle.

[exitspeed]

The shape the taillight is still jacked up though.

[cdlong]

^ doesn't look too bad from that angle.

i think that's because you can't really see the rake built into the body. the bottom of the glass on old models was parallel to the ground. i think that or a very slight rake looks the best. now, as everyone said, it looks like a corolla. the rake is really apparent in this pic, that's why it looks crappy here and not in the other one.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/wrx1.jpg

maybe it would look better with a different grill?

yeah, but they would have to change the headlights, tail lights, doors, and body structure before it would be considered attractive.

[woodchuck]

maybe it would look better with a different grill?



Well, it did do wonders for the tribeca version:

http://www.maxspeed-motorsport.com/catalog/images/f.jpg

the bumper is too aggro for my taste but at least the hideous grill is gone.
lets hope the same for the new imprezas

[ls180sx]

I think if the sti version gets more aggressive front and rear fenders and different grill it wont come out too bad, at least from the front haha

[tacotacotaco]

http://images.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/112_0703_02z+2008_subaru_impreza_wrx_sti+front.jpg

found this i dont know about its validity ehh

[exitspeed]

Maybe this will help:

Winding Road is reporting that a recent change in Japan's anti-trust regulations might mean that Toyota has a clear shot at acquiring a controlling interest in Fujji Heavy Industries, the parent company of Subaru. Lest you think this might be some pie-in-the-sky notion, Subaru admits it could use the help. Toyota already has an 8.7% minority share in Subaru's parent company. With the changes in restrictions, Toyota could make a move and gobble up Subaru and all of its awd motorsports prowess.

TheCarConnection interviewed Subaru CEO Ikuo Mori, who basically admitted that Subaru might not be long for this world without Toyota's cash infusion. That doesn't mean we'd see badge engineering between the brands anytime soon, however. This wouldn't be like its partnership with GM according to the spokesperson. No 9-7X-like crossover projects are expected, but changes are in the works. Subaru apparently has set its sights on Southern California as a new focal point for the future of the company. And some extra cash would certainly help Subaru achieve its goal of increasing worldwide sales by 15% over the next three years.

[ls180sx]

http://images.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/112_0703_02z+2008_subaru_impreza_wrx_sti+front.jpg

found this i dont know about its validity ehh

the fenders need more squared off like current sti's then it will be ok, maybe :-/

at least you can see a nice front mount in there haha

[OptionZero]

4 dr hatchback...at least this one, fail

possible photochop

[axiomatik]

it's gotta be a photochop, the headlights are a different shape. plus, what would be the purpose of the hood scoop if it had a front-mount?

[exitspeed]

For you guys that like the Legacy. Check out this Limited Edition (only 300) GT tuned by STi. That shit is hot. Meanwhile Suby somehow makes this now POS WRX.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/04/liberty-sti.jpg

[ls180sx]

I'll take one, thanks :naughtyd:

[Yuri]

http://images.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/112_0703_02z+2008_subaru_impreza_wrx_sti+front.jpg

found this i dont know about its validity ehh
Very obvious photoshop.

The problems with most new cars is that they are way too thick through the body side.
Somewhere somehow product planners found out that people like the commanding view of the road that SUV's give them.
This led to a higher seating position in many cars, which is why my Evo was a good foot taller than my S13.
Which is one of the reasons I traded in my Evo on my XK, which at stock rideheight, the roof is level with my lowered S13's.

[ONYX S-13]

For you guys that like the Legacy. Check out this Limited Edition (only 300) GT tuned by STi. That shhh is hot.



:bigok: :aw: :naughty: :)

OMG OMG OMG.. + Rep for joo.. I found a new desktop.

[exitspeed]

WRX caught with aftermarket parts. The grill looks better. Still don't like the overall shape.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/23/2008-subaru-impreza-caught-in-wild-with-aftermarket-bolt-ons/

[Jon Michael]

22B FTW!!!

What's wrong with America, that we can't get ourselves a coupe Sti? I'm waiting to see someone do a front end conversion to this new Impreza. Imo, someone should have smacked Subaru back to sense when they first thought about shoving the grill from a van/suv onto the Impreza.

[ls180sx]

that deffinitely looks a little better
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/imprezin04/0421071413.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/imprezin04/0421071416b.jpg

still not feeling the tailights though

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/imprezin04/0421071413d.jpg

[exitspeed]

^
Yea, the rear end just ruins it.

[Jon Michael]

Who's idea was it to take inspiration for the rear end from cheap autozone altezzas?

[ls180sx]

All you have to do is get a red tint for the tails and paint the center chrome peice the same as the body color. My bet is that they will have aftermarket tails on the market pretty quickly since these ones arent getting any possitive reactions

someone photoshop it with red tails and non-chrome centerpeice

[cdlong]

that deffinitely looks a little better
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/imprezin04/0421071413.jpg

yeah, that's tolerable, but the body shape of the car still screams econobox. looking past the front end is possible if the rest of the car is nice, but that's not the case.

[ls180sx]

you have to keep in mind this isn't an sti.
look at a base 06 impreza, it has that econo feel as well. I just can't wait to see how the sti turns out
http://www.carpages.co.uk/subaru/subaru_images/subaru_impreza_front_14_09_06.JPG

[cdlong]

the new one is an econobox.
the old one is an economy sedan.
even the new sedan looks like an econobox to me. i usually equate econobox to 'cheap', and economy sedan to 'inexpensive'. even the standard wrx and impreza look sufficiently racey. again, just my thoughts.

one of the reasons i like the STi vs. the evo is the evo looks like a tarted up lancer while the impreza looks like a budget STi. with the new models, those roles have switched.

[ONYX S-13]

that deffinitely looks a little better
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/imprezin04/0421071413.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/imprezin04/0421071416b.jpg


Yeah it may be more tolerable then the last generation but now it looks like a corolla =/

http://www.canadiandriver.com/roadtest/images/05corolla_xrs_1-1.jpg
http://www.toyota-cars.5u.com/toyota-corolla-car/2005_corolla_xrs.jpg

Econobox if I ever seen one..:ughd:

[forum04pl]

the new wrx is just hideous, it looks like a corolla or even a protege with a rediculous taillight setup. i really dont know what they were thinking with this one.

hopefully the sti version will redeem itself

[exitspeed]

Here's the STi version. Happy? No.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/Q2/4192007192038.jpg

[tacotacotaco]

every car nowaday looks like another car. The STI is CUTE!!!!!!!!!! looks like a focus.

[OptionZero]

show that pic with the EVO and STi in the same pic, I bet Subaru execs would shoot themselves

first honda fucks up the the S2k CR
Nissan gives us the waste of time "Nismo" 350Z
Subaru barfs out the STi

Mitsu, probably the worst run of all the japanese car companies, has the best idea for a sports car...oh the irony. Hope the EVO X's paddle shifter is only an option

[Ninjabread]

That Evo looks retared in the picture. STI front is growing on me, but the hatchback needs to die!

[IIIXziuR]

That Evo looks retared in the picture. STI front is growing on me, but the hatchback needs to die!

Yes agreed. The hatchback does look horrible. I don't know what they were thinking either.

[ThatGuy]

The hatchback looks too much like a Ford Focus or a Civic. Not nice at all.

[exitspeed]

Subaru barfs out the STi

Mitsu, probably the worst run of all the japanese car companies, has the best idea for a sports car...oh the irony. Hope the EVO X's paddle shifter is only an option

Between the 2 it's the closest to what the vehicles should be.

What a shame.

BTW, the pic is from C&D.

[tacotacotaco]

Eh can't do anything about it now. Soon theyll be everywhere.

[exitspeed]

Looking at them, one thing that comes to my mind is, they don't look like a car I'd pay $30,000+ for.

I'd go Yuri's route and get an 8 Series or XK8 over one of these any day.

[OptionZero]

You kno what, the z4 is growing on me. It's got a different style, its' RWD, and you can get it with loads of power.

I wonder when used ones will start filtering into my range...an Z4 M coupe would be bomb

[CKAMC]

4 door rwd vip is growing on me... tempted to do a rwd RS 2.5 as well.

but I have to own a nissan or I will get disowned here... so I end up with just two cars... all three have a 5 at the end tho :)

[Matej]

It's sad how the STi prototype front end looked really nice, yet the finished product is nothing special, exterior-wise.

[axiomatik]

while the non-sti looks like a corolla, the sti version looks like a mazda protege front end grafted onto a focus. very disappointing.

[Jon Michael]

Why the hell can't America get an STi or WRX coupe??? Screw these ugly cars, I'll just go out and buy a gc8 and swap in the STi engine and then upgrade the suspension and whatnot. It'll be a hell of a lot less than a new one, and didn't some magazine do a track test of the new STi and a gc8-conversion? The conversion won it and was only worse in the suspension a little bit...but, you can fix that easily.

[ManoNegra]

I'm guessing that Subaru built the STi hatch thinking about WRC? Seems hatches are doing the best.
Hmmm... dunno, most likely it'll grow on me after some time. I generally tend to hate all new car designs at first.

[exitspeed]

I generally tend to hate all new car designs at first.

I either like it'em or hate'em.

I don't like this one at all. If it was a two door I think id would look much better. But I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Daniel.]

that deffinitely looks a little better
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/imprezin04/0421071413.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/imprezin04/0421071416b.jpg


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http://www.dragtimes.com/images/3970-2000-Ford-Contour.jpg

[exitspeed]

Here's update "design study" pics of the Evo X from Mitsu! I'm sorry but it's not that bad looking and is 1,000,000,000 x better then the STi. Onl thing I really don't like is the hood. Looks like the stoopid hood on the SRT4 Caliber.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/04/jdm_lancers_hi01.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/04/jdm_lancers_hi06.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/04/jdm_lancers_hi07.jpg

[tacotacotaco]

^lol at your sig so so awesome. Sucks for her that she may be accidently killed in the upcoming future.

the evo never grew on me even the past years.

[Jon Michael]

The Evo is a LOT better than the new STi imo. But, My love will still only be for the III and V.

[ls180sx]

first thing i thought of when i saw the new evo
http://www.streetelite.net/pics/camarofish.jpg
but with the evo's front end

[Matej]

The Evo front end looks like a Dodge Charger & R34 lovechild.

[ONYX S-13]

I can handle the front and the sides of the evo... I abhor the rear though *shudders*.Still like it better then the STI even though I am a fan of Hatched vehicles

[theicecreamdan]

I like the STi, if I was going to be spending $30k on a car with awd I would want it to look like some mountain bikes and snowboards would look at home on the roof. With plenty of room for camping stuff in the rear. Talk about a fun weekend.

[markyboi]

Here's update "design study" pics of the Evo X from Mitsu! I'm sorry but it's not that bad looking and is 1,000,000,000 x better then the STi. Onl thing I really don't like is the hood. Looks like the stoopid hood on the SRT4 Caliber.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/04/jdm_lancers_hi01.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/04/jdm_lancers_hi06.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/04/jdm_lancers_hi07.jpg




i dont know, but if i was to design something, i would atleast make the tires the same...lol

[ONYX S-13]

The only way I can see myself buying the STI over the EVO is if the Evo doesn't have a "true" manual shifter in the vehicle.. I've driven paddle shifts before and they just don't FEEL right. I still feel like I'm driving an automatic.

[shayrgob240]

dam i like.. looks more like it was designed for ROAD in mind, besides how the others where more versatile..

I wish Ford would release the Focus RS Cosworth
http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/ford/focus-cosworth-3m.jpg

that car is soo sexy. I've always thought about getting a usdm focus and converting it.

Anyway, the wrx would look VERY hot if it were released as a 2 door version. And the X is sort of controversial for me. One day I'm into it and then the next I'm not. i think I have to see it in person.

[Jon Michael]

Psshhh, the only real Cosworth was the Sierra/Escort Cosworth...man, that thing was an amazing car.

http://www.caradisiac.com/media/images/le_mag/mag233/ford-cosworth-01.jpg

[SimpleS14]

EVO wins this round (IMO)....also those can't be the final pics of the STi...something makes me think there needs to be more aggressiveness in the design.

[exitspeed]

EVO wins this round (IMO)....also those can't be the final pics of the STi...something makes me think there needs to be more aggressiveness in the design.

Think about it though. Ever new model of STi got more tame and more tame (other then the wings). They got rid of the large fog lights, then the large openingins in the bumper, now it's just super streamline and shitty looking.