speakers in front door panels

[Nerfdude]

s13, '92 hatchback. i'll say that now.
first off, do i have to take off my door panels, or are the little panels covering the speakers just sticky? taking off the panel is no biggie, i just wanna know...
next, i've heard that you can cram 6.5" speakers up there, which is good b/c i've still got my 6.5 rockfords from my old car, and personally i think 4x6's suck. so, are there any instructions for doing this, or am i going to have to wing it and use a lot of dynamat?

[aqwkmf]

4x6s all the way around...you have to take the door panel off. to put in differnt size speakers you will have to make a custom enclosure in the door

[riot]

4x6 indeed.  I replace two sets of speakers...one with power windows, one without.  Its a fairly simple procedure.  Just remove a few screws and the panels will pop off.  Then its just reverse for putting them back on.

-ryan

[sykikchimp]

You will have to take the door panels off to get to them.  Also, you don't need a custom enclosure for the door.  Just build some custom Baffles.  Get some 1/4" Birch or MDF if it's available.  Use the 4x6 mounting plates to build a baffle around the screw holes.  But make sure you leave areas for the plastic snaps to go back in the door.  Took me a couple tries to get it just right, but it's well worth it in my opinion.  4x6's suck balls.  6.5's are WAY better.

[Apparition]

4x6's don't necessarily bite, depends on the quality of speaker you buy. I shelled out a little extra for a higher quality 4x6, and I'm more than happy. Just depends on what you're willing to spend. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Now in my 90' s13, I could fit a little bigger than 4x6 into the hole, just need some melting action for the plastic bracket. However much work you want to do, is up to you.

Good luck. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[bheld]

You don't have to take the door panel off completely. &nbsp;When I changed mine, I just took it off enough to unscrew the speaker grilles. &nbsp;There are 4 screws holding it on from the inside of the panel. &nbsp;Then you can just take the grille off and work on it through the hole. &nbsp;I thought it was a lot easier than taking the whole panel off, &nbsp;but you might be different. &nbsp;Just another option for you.

[sykikchimp]

the panel is REALLY easy to take off. &nbsp;You take out 2-3 screws (depending on door) pop off the plastic retainers, pull out the bottom of the door with a swift stern jerk, then do same to the sides. &nbsp;Then just lift straight upwards. &nbsp;Your done. &nbsp;I an take the panel off in under 5 min.

[Nerfdude]

excellent, i'll try my hand at installing my 6.5's when the car comes back from the shop tomorrow. gettin' a new clutch, oh boy.
as for quality 4x6's... when i bought it, it had 2-way pioneers all around- the most expensive ones best buy sells (yeah, i know, bet buy doesn't sell great stuff... but still), and it sounds like crap... course, i'm coming from a car that had 6.5's up front and 6x9's in the rear. thanks guys...